History Trivia / StarWars

25th Nov '17 7:38:21 AM TheDeadSkin
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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: People who bash the prequels for being 'CGI obsessed' apparently never bothered to really look into the many, many practical effects the three movies had. See [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/916b88096746bb440e4b5c1a89d354f0/tumblr_n30btftpc91sh5qqjo1_1280.jpg here]] for a few examples.

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* CowboyBebopAtHisComputer: People who bash the prequels for being 'CGI obsessed' apparently never bothered Even fans tend to really look into the many, many practical effects the three movies had. See [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/916b88096746bb440e4b5c1a89d354f0/tumblr_n30btftpc91sh5qqjo1_1280.jpg here]] for a few examples.severely exaggerate]] the prequel trilogy's use of CGI.



* FakeBrit: Leia in ''A New Hope'', [[OohMeAccentsSlipping briefly]]. Her accent change could be explained as indicative of speaking formally because she is a senator, much the same way Amidala's manner of speaking changed when she was under cover as her own handmaiden, and later when her term as queen ended. Another possible explanation: the scene where her FakeBrit accent is most prominent -- when she's arguing with Tarkin on the Death Star. She's talking down to him, letting him know she is his equal and will not be intimidated... but when he points the WaveMotionGun at her home planet, she drops the pretense '''and''' the accent.
** Since this is the franchise we're discussing, it becomes a point in the Imperial Agent's storyline in [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic SWTOR]] that the [[UsefulNotes/BritishAccents RP]] accents used are actually ''Imperial'' accents, used in official business when speaking [[AliensSpeakingEnglish Basic]]. This makes Leia's accent slip more understandable, as she is [[BreakTheHaughty dropping her Senatorial mask]] and reacting like a sane person.
** This gets explained in ''[[Literature/StarWarsBloodline Bloodline]]'' as being a BriefAccentImitation to mock Tarkin's accent.

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* FakeBrit: [[OohMeAccentsSlipping Briefly,]] Leia in ''A New Hope'', [[OohMeAccentsSlipping briefly]]. Her accent change could be explained as indicative of speaking formally because she is a senator, much the same way Amidala's manner of speaking changed when she was under cover as her own handmaiden, and later when her term as queen ended. Another possible explanation: the scene where her FakeBrit accent is most prominent -- when she's arguing with Tarkin on the Death Star. She's talking down to him, letting him know she is his equal and will not be intimidated... but when he points the WaveMotionGun at her home planet, she drops the pretense '''and''' the accent.
** Since this is the franchise we're discussing, it becomes a point in the Imperial Agent's storyline in [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic SWTOR]] that the [[UsefulNotes/BritishAccents RP]] accents used are actually ''Imperial'' accents, used in official business when speaking [[AliensSpeakingEnglish Basic]]. This makes Leia's accent slip more understandable, as she is [[BreakTheHaughty dropping her Senatorial mask]] and reacting like a sane person.
** This gets explained in
Hope''. ''[[Literature/StarWarsBloodline Bloodline]]'' explains this away as being a BriefAccentImitation to mock Tarkin's accent.own.
25th Nov '17 7:14:52 AM TheDeadSkin
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Creator/CarrieFisher's sudden death before ''Episode IX'' even began filming sent the crew into complete panic, as she was planned to have a larger role in it than either of the two preceding films, and had clearly been set up to have her own dramatic climax with [[spoiler:her son being the new BigBad.]] They quickly started discussions on their options, including having Leia be killed between films, simply kept offscreen, or using the same CGI double process that had been used with Creator/PeterCushing ([[spoiler:and briefly Fisher herself]]) in ''Rogue One''. Eventually, the crew decided to kill off Leia.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Creator/CarrieFisher's sudden death before ''Episode IX'' even began filming sent the crew into complete panic, as she was planned to have a larger role in it than either of the two preceding films, and had clearly been set up to have her own dramatic climax with [[spoiler:her son being the new BigBad.]] They quickly started discussions on their options, including having Leia be killed between films, simply kept offscreen, or using the same CGI double process that had been used with Creator/PeterCushing ([[spoiler:and briefly Fisher herself]]) in ''Rogue One''. Eventually, Leia's fate in the crew decided sequel trilogy remains to kill off Leia.be seen.
13th Nov '17 7:41:48 PM Animeking1108
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** There were plans to re-release all six movies in 3D. However, they only got as far as ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' in 2012. Months later, the Disney buyout had occurred, and the plans for re-releasing the remaining movies seemed to have been scrapped in favor of the Sequel Trilogy.
6th Nov '17 2:48:49 PM TheDeadSkin
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* FranchiseZombie: An interesting case. George Lucas originally planned for there to be ''twelve'' movies in total, but eventually boiled it down to nine while working on ''The Empire Strikes Back'' and ''Return Of The Jedi'', and from there, went with six (the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy). He stated that he did '''and''' didn't have plans for additional sequels, generally stating that [[ExactWords he wouldn't be directing any more movies in the franchise beyond the two trilogies]] and would avoid the creation of additional films unless he approved of the story. Disney convinced him to allow the films to expand further with a $4,000,000,000 deal. However, he is a creative consultant for the Sequel Trilogy as a way of making sure the story has the spirit of the other movies, and the cast and crew involved with the movies are very enthusiastic to be a part of the project - both of which are good signs for the direction of the trilogy.

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* FranchiseZombie: An interesting case. George Lucas originally planned for there to be ''twelve'' movies in total, but eventually boiled it his plans down to nine while working on ''The Empire Strikes Back'' and ''Return Of The of the Jedi'', and from there, then went with six (the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy). He from there. Lucas eventually stated that he did '''and''' didn't have plans for additional sequels, generally stating that [[ExactWords he wouldn't be directing direct any more movies in the franchise beyond the two trilogies]] trilogies]], and any further movies would avoid the creation of additional films unless he approved of the story. have to be made with his approval. Disney convinced him to allow the for more films to expand further with a $4,000,000,000 deal. However, deal - however, he is a creative consultant for the Sequel Trilogy as a way of making sure the story has the spirit of the other movies, sequel trilogy, and the cast and crew involved with the movies are very enthusiastic to be a part of about the project - both of which are good signs for the direction of the trilogy.project.



** Sir Creator/AlecGuinness was reportedly the one vying for Ben Kenobi to be killed in ''Film/StarWarsANewHope'' because he thought the films would turn out to be terrible as well as thinking Kenobi was annoying.
** Creator/HarrisonFord also wanted Han Solo killed off in the Original Trilogy, which didn't happen. [[spoiler:Until the first movie of the Sequel Trilogy]].

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** Sir Creator/AlecGuinness was reportedly the one vying asked for Ben Kenobi to be killed Kenobi's death in ''Film/StarWarsANewHope'' ''Film/StarWarsANewHope'', because he thought had no faith in either the films would turn out to be terrible as well as thinking Kenobi was annoying.
film or his character.
** Creator/HarrisonFord also wanted Han Solo killed off in the Original Trilogy, original trilogy, which didn't happen. [[spoiler:Until the first movie of the Sequel Trilogy]].''The Force Awakens'']].



** Palpatine may be very evil, Ian [=McDiarmid=] is very funny, witty and charming.

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** Palpatine may be very evil, but Ian [=McDiarmid=] is very funny, witty and charming.



** Bloodline, a Disney canon standalone novel, isn't to be confused with Bloodlines, the second novel in the Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Legends series.
** Empire's End is the final work in Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy, as well as the final chapter in Tom Veitch's ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' trilogy.
** Knights of the Old Republic can refer to a [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic well known video game]], [[ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic a comic series based off of the former]], or the first story arc for [[ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi Tales of the Jedi]].
** Rebellion: The comic book successor to Empire, [[VideoGame/StarWarsRebellion a computer game known as Supremacy in the UK]], or a board game from FantasyFlightGames?
* OddballInTheSeries: The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse ''Jedi Prince'' cycle. ''The Glove Of Darth Vader'' has Luke Skywalker on a quest to [[GreenAesop save the whales]] from being hunted by The Empire. It also contains "Mount Yoda"; the "Tatooine Retirement Home for Aged Aliens"; Leia being replaced by a [[Film/AustinPowers Fembot]] at her and Han's wedding; Triclops, the emperor's crazy three-eyed son, versus Trioculus, an evil three-eyed impostor; "mofference", or the line "[[CardCarryingVillain I bid you Dark Greetings!]]"; and lots of {{Narm}}y {{Written Sound Effect}}s. It was eventually {{retcon}}ed into a minor event described as being of little importance involving a minor rogue faction of TheEmpire.

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** Bloodline, ''Bloodline'', a Disney canon standalone novel, isn't to be confused with Bloodlines, is not ''Bloodlines'', the second novel in the Literature/LegacyOfTheForce Legends series.
** Empire's End ''Empire's End'' is the final work in Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy, as well as the final chapter in Tom Veitch's ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' trilogy.
** Knights ''Knights of the Old Republic Republic'' can refer to a [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic well known video game]], [[ComicBook/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic a comic series based off of the former]], or the first story arc for [[ComicBook/TalesOfTheJedi Tales of the Jedi]].
** Rebellion: ''Rebellion'': The comic book successor to Empire, ''Empire'', [[VideoGame/StarWarsRebellion a computer game known as Supremacy in the UK]], or a board game from FantasyFlightGames?
* OddballInTheSeries: The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Franchise/StarWarsLegends ''Jedi Prince'' cycle. ''The Glove Of of Darth Vader'' has Luke Skywalker on a quest to [[GreenAesop save the whales]] from being hunted by The Empire. It also contains "Mount Yoda"; the "Tatooine Retirement Home for Aged Aliens"; Leia being replaced by a [[Film/AustinPowers Fembot]] at her and Han's wedding; Triclops, the emperor's crazy three-eyed son, versus Trioculus, an evil three-eyed impostor; "mofference", or the line "[[CardCarryingVillain I bid you Dark Greetings!]]"; and lots of {{Narm}}y {{Written Sound Effect}}s. It was eventually {{retcon}}ed into a minor event described as being of little importance involving a minor rogue faction of TheEmpire.
6th Nov '17 2:33:47 PM TheDeadSkin
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** Jake Lloyd, the young 9-year-old Anakin's actor, hated the role so much he felt George Lucas ruined his acting career. This wasn't helped by him constantly getting teased by kids making lightsaber noises after the movie came out, as well as being bullied and harassed by fanboys [[MisBlamed blaming him for "ruining"]] ''Star Wars'' (and keep in mind, he was only nine at the time). He also had to do over 60 interviews, which was very exhausting for him to do. After all that, he quit acting after voicing Anakin in five video games and wouldn't watch the movie anymore. His opinions of ''Star Wars'' have since gotten better though.

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** Jake Lloyd, the Lloyd hated playing young 9-year-old Anakin's actor, hated the role Anakin in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' so much he felt George Lucas ruined his acting career. This wasn't helped by him After the movie's release, he was constantly getting teased by kids making lightsaber noises after the movie came out, as well as being bullied and harassed by fanboys angry fans [[MisBlamed blaming him for "ruining"]] ''Star Wars'' (and keep in mind, (while he was only nine at the time). He also had to do over 60 interviews, which was very exhausting for him to do. nine). After all that, he quit acting after giving over sixty interviews to press and voicing Anakin in five video games games, he quit acting and wouldn't watch swore off associations with the movie anymore. movie. His opinions of ''Star Wars'' have since gotten better better, though.



** Applied to Creator/MarkHamill in a SelfDeprecation kind of way. He likes and enjoys watching other characters in ''Star Wars'', but he can never stand watching his own performance.

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** Applied to PlayedForLaughs: Creator/MarkHamill in a SelfDeprecation kind of way. He likes and enjoys watching other characters in ''Star Wars'', but he can never stand watching [[SelfDeprecation his own performance.
performance]].
8th Oct '17 6:38:28 PM MagBas
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* CommonKnowledge:
** It's common among recent fans, in Website/{{Cracked}} and other pages, to argue that the only reason ''Star Wars'' is good is because of Lucas' collaborators rather than Lucas himself, much of which, while taking nothing away from the collaborative part of film-making (which contrary to belief, even auteurists admitted[[note]]They pointed out that directors work via ProductionPosse and carefully sustain collaborations so as to maintain a common style[[/note]]), is based on misconceptions about film-production:
*** An often cited fact is that Marcia Lucas saved Star Wars after a disastrous "rough cut". The truth of the matter as anyone with familiarity with film production will tell you is that rough cuts of most good to great films are always pretty lousy (and so they are called "rough" ''for that very reason''). So while Marcia Lucas did play a major part in making ''A New Hope'' great, it would be an exaggeration, and likewise unfair to other collaborators (including George himself), to claim that she single-handedly saved the film or was alone responsible for the film turning out right simply because she did what many great editors have done on countless film productions.
*** Many have also cited the fact that Lucas can't write dialogues, citing the complaints made by many actors, such as Harrison Ford and others deprecating it as corny. This again ignores the context of the production of ''A New Hope''. What actors were deprecating was not merely the dialogue but the very nature of the project itself. The reason Lucas had so much trouble on ''A New Hope'' is that the very concept of the film, i.e. a BMovie Serial GenreThrowback but done with higher production values was considered absurd, as did most of Lucas' collaborators and producers, and what upset many of them was that Lucas was playing the genre straight rather than submitting it to a Creator/MelBrooks' style parody. Lucas' {{Homage}} to Flash Gordon serials was seen with bemused contempt because those films were highly disreputable and Lucas was the only one who envisioned that the Serial could be revived via {{Reconstruction}} and higher production values. And this by itself is more than enough among auteurists to make Lucas the main creator of ''Star Wars''[[note]]As auteurists note, directors primarily determine the vision, tone and sentiment by which audiences experience the work. Without ''Star Wars'' it would not be possible for anyone to take subject material seriously enough that one could call dialogue in the genre corny...since to most people, the genre was corny to start with, and taking it seriously was even cornier[[/note]]. It's also important to note that [[LukeIAmYourFather the most famous lines of dialogue]] in the entire ''Star Wars'' media, which most would argue is [[CerebusRetcon the least corniest moment]] in the entire series, was written entirely by Lucas alone.
** The complaints about the GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion and Lucas ruining ''Star Wars'' ignores the fact that the idea of a film-maker making small alternations, nips and tucks after the film is complete and released, is not without precedent or exceptional to Lucas alone.
*** Creator/OrsonWelles himself (poster boy for DirectorsCut) removed an entire scene from ''Film/TheTrial'' between an early screening and a later release. Creator/StanleyKubrick did the same for ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey, Film/TheShining, Film/EyesWideShut''. The French film-maker Creator/JacquesTati for the 70s re-release of his 50s comedy ''Film/MrHulotsHoliday'' added an entire new gag about ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' which is naturally quite anachronistic.
*** Likewise Creator/CharlieChaplin also altered many of his films for re-releases [[note]]And among film buffs, his "sound version" of ''Film/TheGoldRush'' (in which he added a voiceover) is seen as a far better case of a film-maker ruining his own film than any of Lucas, since Chaplin fundamentally changed the nature of the film. For sake of analogy, it was as if Lucas made the Star Wars into a silent film complete with intertitles[[/note]]. Creator/DavidLean collaborated in the restoration of ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'' which brought back his original near four hour version, and got Peter O'Toole and other actors to re-record dialogues decades later. Most film-makers simply do not have the level of control over production and the ones listed above are fairly rare instances. Lucas was the first film-maker to have total control over his properties and unlike the examples above, he made ''Star Wars'' which has a huge online fanbase as well as facilities to reshoot and re-record dialogues and add-in more special effects. So while one can criticize Lucas for some of these changes and tinkerings, the idea that Lucas is somehow being sacrilegious and heretical is based largely on unfamiliarity with film history and production norms. Likewise, the general public did not notice these changes or became aware of the extent of Lucas' alterations until the advent of the internet, and the ''very recent'' mainstreaming of nerd culture such as ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' which were the first introduction to many audiences about these changes.
30th Sep '17 6:09:48 PM Malady
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** Empire's End is the final work in Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy, as well as the final chapter in Tom Veitch's DarkEmpire trilogy.

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** Empire's End is the final work in Chuck Wendig's Aftermath trilogy, as well as the final chapter in Tom Veitch's DarkEmpire ''ComicBook/DarkEmpire'' trilogy.
20th Sep '17 12:09:21 PM JulianLapostat
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*** Many have also cited the fact that Lucas can't write dialogues, citing the complaints made by many actors, such as Harrison Ford and others deprecating it as corny. This again ignores the context of the production of ''A New Hope''. What actors were deprecating was not merely the dialogue but the very nature of the project itself. The reason Lucas had so much trouble on ''A New Hope'' is that the very concept of the film, i.e. a BMovie Serial GenreThrowback but done with higher production values was considered absurd, as did most of Lucas' collaborators and producers, and what upset many of them was that Lucas was playing the genre straight rather than submitting it to a Creator/MelBrooks' style parody. Lucas' {{Homage}} to Flash Gordon serials was seen with bemused contempt because those films were highly disreputable and Lucas was the only one who envisioned that the Serial could be revived via {{Reconstruction}} and higher production values. And this by itself is more than enough among auteurists to make Lucas the main creator of ''Star Wars''[[note]]As auteurists note, directors primarily determine the vision, tone and sentiment by which audiences experience the work. Without ''Star Wars'' it would not be possible for anyone to take subject material seriously enough that one could call dialogue in the genre corny...since to most people, the genre was corny to start with, and taking it seriously was even cornier[[/note]].

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*** Many have also cited the fact that Lucas can't write dialogues, citing the complaints made by many actors, such as Harrison Ford and others deprecating it as corny. This again ignores the context of the production of ''A New Hope''. What actors were deprecating was not merely the dialogue but the very nature of the project itself. The reason Lucas had so much trouble on ''A New Hope'' is that the very concept of the film, i.e. a BMovie Serial GenreThrowback but done with higher production values was considered absurd, as did most of Lucas' collaborators and producers, and what upset many of them was that Lucas was playing the genre straight rather than submitting it to a Creator/MelBrooks' style parody. Lucas' {{Homage}} to Flash Gordon serials was seen with bemused contempt because those films were highly disreputable and Lucas was the only one who envisioned that the Serial could be revived via {{Reconstruction}} and higher production values. And this by itself is more than enough among auteurists to make Lucas the main creator of ''Star Wars''[[note]]As auteurists note, directors primarily determine the vision, tone and sentiment by which audiences experience the work. Without ''Star Wars'' it would not be possible for anyone to take subject material seriously enough that one could call dialogue in the genre corny...since to most people, the genre was corny to start with, and taking it seriously was even cornier[[/note]]. It's also important to note that [[LukeIAmYourFather the most famous lines of dialogue]] in the entire ''Star Wars'' media, which most would argue is [[CerebusRetcon the least corniest moment]] in the entire series, was written entirely by Lucas alone.



*** Creator/OrsonWelles himself (poster boy for DirectorsCut) removed an entire scene from ''Film/TheTrial'' between an early screening and a later release. Creator/StanleyKubrick did the same for both ''Film/TwoThousandAndOneASpaceOdyssey, Film/TheShining, Film/EyesWideShut''. The French film-maker Creator/JacquesTati for the 70s re-release of his 50s comedy ''Film/MrHulotsHoliday'' added an entire new gag about ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' which is naturally quite anachronistic.

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*** Creator/OrsonWelles himself (poster boy for DirectorsCut) removed an entire scene from ''Film/TheTrial'' between an early screening and a later release. Creator/StanleyKubrick did the same for both ''Film/TwoThousandAndOneASpaceOdyssey, ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey, Film/TheShining, Film/EyesWideShut''. The French film-maker Creator/JacquesTati for the 70s re-release of his 50s comedy ''Film/MrHulotsHoliday'' added an entire new gag about ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' which is naturally quite anachronistic.
20th Sep '17 12:04:45 PM JulianLapostat
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* CommonKnowledge:
** It's common among recent fans, in Website/{{Cracked}} and other pages, to argue that the only reason ''Star Wars'' is good is because of Lucas' collaborators rather than Lucas himself, much of which, while taking nothing away from the collaborative part of film-making (which contrary to belief, even auteurists admitted[[note]]They pointed out that directors work via ProductionPosse and carefully sustain collaborations so as to maintain a common style[[/note]]), is based on misconceptions about film-production:
*** An often cited fact is that Marcia Lucas saved Star Wars after a disastrous "rough cut". The truth of the matter as anyone with familiarity with film production will tell you is that rough cuts of most good to great films are always pretty lousy (and so they are called "rough" ''for that very reason''). So while Marcia Lucas did play a major part in making ''A New Hope'' great, it would be an exaggeration, and likewise unfair to other collaborators (including George himself), to claim that she single-handedly saved the film or was alone responsible for the film turning out right simply because she did what many great editors have done on countless film productions.
*** Many have also cited the fact that Lucas can't write dialogues, citing the complaints made by many actors, such as Harrison Ford and others deprecating it as corny. This again ignores the context of the production of ''A New Hope''. What actors were deprecating was not merely the dialogue but the very nature of the project itself. The reason Lucas had so much trouble on ''A New Hope'' is that the very concept of the film, i.e. a BMovie Serial GenreThrowback but done with higher production values was considered absurd, as did most of Lucas' collaborators and producers, and what upset many of them was that Lucas was playing the genre straight rather than submitting it to a Creator/MelBrooks' style parody. Lucas' {{Homage}} to Flash Gordon serials was seen with bemused contempt because those films were highly disreputable and Lucas was the only one who envisioned that the Serial could be revived via {{Reconstruction}} and higher production values. And this by itself is more than enough among auteurists to make Lucas the main creator of ''Star Wars''[[note]]As auteurists note, directors primarily determine the vision, tone and sentiment by which audiences experience the work. Without ''Star Wars'' it would not be possible for anyone to take subject material seriously enough that one could call dialogue in the genre corny...since to most people, the genre was corny to start with, and taking it seriously was even cornier[[/note]].
** The complaints about the GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion and Lucas ruining ''Star Wars'' ignores the fact that the idea of a film-maker making small alternations, nips and tucks after the film is complete and released, is not without precedent or exceptional to Lucas alone.
*** Creator/OrsonWelles himself (poster boy for DirectorsCut) removed an entire scene from ''Film/TheTrial'' between an early screening and a later release. Creator/StanleyKubrick did the same for both ''Film/TwoThousandAndOneASpaceOdyssey, Film/TheShining, Film/EyesWideShut''. The French film-maker Creator/JacquesTati for the 70s re-release of his 50s comedy ''Film/MrHulotsHoliday'' added an entire new gag about ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' which is naturally quite anachronistic.
*** Likewise Creator/CharlieChaplin also altered many of his films for re-releases [[note]]And among film buffs, his "sound version" of ''Film/TheGoldRush'' (in which he added a voiceover) is seen as a far better case of a film-maker ruining his own film than any of Lucas, since Chaplin fundamentally changed the nature of the film. For sake of analogy, it was as if Lucas made the Star Wars into a silent film complete with intertitles[[/note]]. Creator/DavidLean collaborated in the restoration of ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'' which brought back his original near four hour version, and got Peter O'Toole and other actors to re-record dialogues decades later. Most film-makers simply do not have the level of control over production and the ones listed above are fairly rare instances. Lucas was the first film-maker to have total control over his properties and unlike the examples above, he made ''Star Wars'' which has a huge online fanbase as well as facilities to reshoot and re-record dialogues and add-in more special effects. So while one can criticize Lucas for some of these changes and tinkerings, the idea that Lucas is somehow being sacrilegious and heretical is based largely on unfamiliarity with film history and production norms. Likewise, the general public did not notice these changes or became aware of the extent of Lucas' alterations until the advent of the internet, and the ''very recent'' mainstreaming of nerd culture such as ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' and ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' which were the first introduction to many audiences about these changes.
18th Sep '17 8:01:51 AM Phoenixion
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** Other nicknames for Palpatine are [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Frank]][[note]]Palpatine told Amidala, "[[AmbiguousSyntax I must be Frank]], Your Majesty."[[/note]], [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Alright, The Senate, Weak, and Too Weak]][[note]]Windu asks "Are you Alright?" which Palpatine answers with "Yes." Much later after his identity is discovered, Palpatine boasts that "I'm the Senate." And while begging Anakin to help him, he says "I'm weak, too weak."[[/note]]
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