History Trivia / StarTrekTheNextGeneration

7th Nov '17 4:00:28 AM Registermeplease
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** The Borg were planned to be insectoid aliens but the special effects budget wouldn't cut it. The concept was reused for the Jarada, who we never see on-screen.

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** The Borg were planned to be insectoid aliens but the special effects budget wouldn't cut it. The concept was reused for the Jarada, who we never see on-screen.insectoid aliens seen in "Conspiracy" were in fact planned to be The Borg.
7th Nov '17 3:54:09 AM Registermeplease
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** Several attempts were made to introduce the Mirror Universe into TNG. Even Jerome Bixby, the writer of "Mirror, Mirror", submitted a script that would have served as a sequel. It was apparently rejected because it called for guest appearances from TOS. In general, Rick Berman and Michael Piller were disinterested in TNG revisiting the Mirror Universe because they felt the concept was too cheesy and out-of-date for the series, so that's the real reason we never got a Mirror Universe episode. [=DS9=], being staffed by fans of TOS, would eventually re-visit the Mirror Universe to mixed results, with ENT also re-visiting it to surprisingly greater effect, with its Mirror two-parter being its most popular episodes. The non-canon novel "Dark Mirror" released in 1993 (which ended up influencing ENT's foray into the Mirror Universe) and the IDW comic "Mirror Broken" released in 2017, which both explore alternate takes on the Mirror Universe Enterprise-D are pretty popular, so it's interesting to speculate how TNG would handled the concept.
** Everyone knows about "Blood and Fire", but another episode with similar themes was planned involving Wesley Crusher dating a beautiful alien girl, who in the course of the episode, gets a sex change. Depending on how this would have been handled, this could have been a landmark episode for television, though it most certainly would have been a source of mockery for the character, given how hated he is in the fandom.

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** Several attempts were made to introduce the Mirror Universe into TNG. Even Jerome Bixby, the writer of "Mirror, Mirror", submitted a script that would have served as a sequel. It was apparently rejected because it called for guest appearances from TOS. In general, Rick Berman and Michael Piller were disinterested in TNG revisiting the Mirror Universe because they felt the concept was too cheesy and out-of-date for the series, so that's the real reason we never got a Mirror Universe episode.series. [=DS9=], being staffed by fans of TOS, would eventually re-visit the Mirror Universe to mixed results, with ENT also re-visiting it to surprisingly greater effect, with its Mirror two-parter being its most popular episodes. The non-canon novel "Dark Mirror" released in 1993 (which ended up influencing ENT's foray into the Mirror Universe) and the IDW comic "Mirror Broken" released in 2017, which both explore alternate takes on the Mirror Universe Enterprise-D are pretty popular, so it's interesting to speculate how TNG would have handled the concept.
** Everyone knows about "Blood and Fire", but another episode with similar themes was planned involving Wesley Crusher dating a beautiful having an alien girl, friend named "Los" from Starfleet Academy, who in the course of the episode, gets was from a species that could change sex change. Depending on how this at will. This would have been handled, this could have been led them into having a landmark sort of LGBT style relationship, with the episode exploring complex sexual themes. It was pitched by Rene Echevarria, but rejected likely for television, though it most certainly would have been a source being too sexual and outside of mockery for the character, given how hated he is mainstream audiences comfort zone (which resulted in the fandom.a gay couple being axed by Echevarria's first episode "The Offspring").



** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS7E24AllGoodThings}} All Good Things...]]" was originally going to feature four time periods, the fourth being the events of "The Best of Both Worlds", with Picard as Locutus. This was Braga and Moore's attempt to have the Borg featured in the series finale, which they felt should appear as villains, and have the episode be a follow-up of sorts to the infamous two-parter. Michael Piller felt the four time periods was too confusing, so they chose to ditch it instead of replacing one of the other time periods. Braga and Moore feel "Star Trek: First Contact" was a superior follow-up anyway, so they don't regret canning the Borg here.
** The writing team tried several times to write a sequel to "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds}} The Best of Both Worlds]]" but nothing got further than the concept phase, because no one could think of another clever way to defeat the Borg. Eventually they gave up and opted to tell a very different Borg story with "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E23IBorg}} I Borg]]", where the crew rescues a lone drone who eventually gains individuality and rejects being a Borg, being named "Hugh". It paid off, as the episode proved popular enough to get a follow up in the two parter "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E24S7E1Descent}} Descent]]" and served as the template for Seven of Nine on Voyager. Hugh was apparently even planned to appear in early versions of "All Good Things". Of course, BOBW would eventually get a proper sequel with the film Star Trek: First Contact, which unsurprisingly is the only TNG film most fans actually like.
** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E15YesterdaysEnterprise}} Yesterday's Enterprise]]" was originally conceived as two separate episodes, one fittingly enough also titled Yesterdays Enterprise and the other unnamed. In the original Yesterdays Enterprise, the Enterprise C also accidentally comes forward in time. However it causes no changes in the timeline when discovered by the Enterprise-D, and the entire episode would have centered around Picard having to make a decision to send it back and preserve the timeline, where they would lose a hopeless battle or risk altering time by keeping them in the present. The other episode would have involved Sarek and a group of Vulcans revisiting the Guardian of Forever to go back to Vulcan pre-history. They would have fucked up the timeline and accidentally killed Surak, creating a timeline where a violent Vulcan race had arisen. They would have eventually discovered and merged with the Romulans to form a Vulcan-Romulan Empire and would have rampaged across the galaxy, exterminating the Klingons and fighting the Federation (who formed without them) in a bitter war the Federation was losing. The episode would have even featured the alternate universe Vulcans planning to use the Guardian of Forever to alter Earth's history and prevent the Federation from ever forming, wich sounds a lot like Star Trek: First Contact (which even the writers Trent Christopher Ganin and Eric A. Stillwell have pointed out). Sarek would remain unaffected, be captured by the Enterprise D where after a mind meld with Picard, is allowed to return through the Guardian of Forever and take the place of Surak to preserve the timeline. Both episode pitches were received well, but Michael Piller suggested merging the ideas together, and Ronald D. Moore ended up changing the Vulcans into Klingons and using the episode to explain how the Klingons and the Federation became allies (which funningly enough is contradicted a year later with the film Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, which eventually had to be reconciled with this episode).
** Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D Moore wanted to feature more gruesome deaths for several characters at the end of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E15YesterdaysEnterprise}} Yesterday's Enterprise]]", including Data being electrocuted and having Wesley Crusher graphically decapitated by debris! Riker's on-screen death was also supposed to be more gruesome, with his throat slit and spurting blood. To make things even darker, the Klingon commanding the ships doing all this damage would have been Worf! So he would have been brutally murdering his friends. Moore and Behr were disappointed this wasn't filmed, which they claim was because the producers didn't want to depress audiences, though it was also likely cut due to the graphic nature of the violence.

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** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS7E24AllGoodThings}} All Good Things...]]" was originally going to feature four time periods, the fourth being the events of "The Best of Both Worlds", with Picard as Locutus. This was Braga and Moore's attempt to have the Borg featured in the series finale, which they felt should appear as villains, and have the episode be a follow-up of sorts to the infamous two-parter. Michael Piller felt the that four time periods was were too confusing, so they chose to ditch it instead of replacing one of the other time periods. Braga and Moore feel "Star Trek: First Contact" was a superior follow-up anyway, so they don't regret canning the Borg here.
** The writing team tried several times to write a sequel to "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds}} The Best of Both Worlds]]" but nothing got went further than the concept phase, because no one could think of another clever way to defeat the Borg. Eventually they gave up and opted to tell a very different Borg story with "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E23IBorg}} I Borg]]", where the crew rescues a lone drone who eventually gains individuality and rejects being a Borg, being named "Hugh". It paid off, as the episode proved popular enough to get a follow up in the two parter "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E24S7E1Descent}} Descent]]" and served as the template for Seven of Nine on Voyager. Hugh was apparently even planned to appear in early versions of "All Good Things". Of course, BOBW would eventually get a proper sequel with the film Star Trek: First Contact, which unsurprisingly is the only TNG film most fans actually like.
** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E15YesterdaysEnterprise}} Yesterday's Enterprise]]" was originally conceived as two separate episodes, one fittingly enough also titled Yesterdays Enterprise and the other unnamed. In the original Yesterdays Enterprise, the Enterprise C also accidentally comes forward in time. However it causes no changes in the timeline when discovered by the Enterprise-D, and the entire episode would have centered around Picard having to make a decision to send it back and preserve the timeline, where they would lose a hopeless battle or risk altering time by keeping them in the present. The other episode would have involved Sarek and a group of Vulcans revisiting the Guardian of Forever to go back to Vulcan pre-history. They would have fucked up the timeline and accidentally killed Surak, creating a timeline where a violent Vulcan race had arisen. They would have eventually discovered and merged with the Romulans their Romulan offshoots to form a Vulcan-Romulan Empire and would have rampaged across the galaxy, exterminating the Klingons and fighting the Federation (who formed without them) in a bitter war the Federation was losing. The episode would have even featured the alternate universe Vulcans planning to use the Guardian of Forever to alter Earth's history and prevent the Federation from ever forming, wich which sounds a lot like Star Trek: First Contact (which even the writers Trent Christopher Ganin and Eric A. Stillwell have pointed out). Sarek would remain unaffected, be captured by the Enterprise D where after a mind meld with Picard, is allowed to return through the Guardian of Forever and take the place of Surak to preserve the timeline. Both episode pitches were received well, but Michael Piller suggested merging the ideas together, and Ronald D. Moore ended up changing the Vulcans into Klingons and using the episode to explain how the Klingons and the Federation became allies (which funningly funny enough is contradicted a year later with the film Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, which eventually had to be reconciled with this episode).
** Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D Moore wanted to feature more gruesome deaths for several characters at the end of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E15YesterdaysEnterprise}} Yesterday's Enterprise]]", including Data being electrocuted and having Wesley Crusher graphically decapitated by debris! Riker's on-screen death was also supposed to be more gruesome, with his throat slit and spurting blood. To make things even darker, the Klingon commanding the ships doing all this damage would have been Worf! So he would have been brutally murdering his friends.friends essentially, for our "viewing pleasure". Moore and Behr were disappointed this wasn't filmed, which they claim was because the producers didn't want to depress audiences, though it was also likely cut due to the graphic nature of the violence.
25th Oct '17 2:59:07 AM OlfinBedwere
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** According to Jeri Taylor, at one point Geordi La Forge was planned to be revealed as the product of alien experimentation on his mother, and an episode was planned to involve said aliens returning to retrieve him. According to her, it was conceived to give him some needed character development, but was rejected, probably because it would have weirded out viewers. Even stranger, the concept was almost revived in VOY, with Harry Kim planned to have a very similar backstory, but it too was rejected.

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** According to Jeri Taylor, at one point Geordi La Forge was planned to be revealed as the product of alien experimentation on his mother, and an episode was planned to involve said aliens returning to retrieve him. According to her, it was conceived to give him some needed character development, but was rejected, probably because it would have weirded out viewers. Even stranger, the concept was almost revived in VOY, with Harry Kim planned to have a very similar backstory, but it too was rejected. The idea would eventually be used in a fashion for Sisko in the final season of [=DS9=].


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** Creator/GeneRoddenberry wasn't actually the first person Paramount turned to when they were looking to create the series. They first approached Harve Bennett, who had replaced Roddenberry as producer of the TOS films starting with ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'', but he wasn't interested. Then they commissioned a proposal from Greg and Sam Strangis, but Paramount let them go after disliking the pitch for a "Starfleet Academy" series that they came up with. At this point, Roddenberry's lawyer, Leonard Maizlish learned that Paramount were shopping around for pitches for a new series, and threatened them with all hell if anyone but Roddenberry was allowed to create the new series, eventually leading to the one we got.
15th Oct '17 10:15:59 AM OlfinBedwere
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** The series was originally going to have a mostly-original main theme, composed by Dennis [=McCarthy=], which actually did get [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzpeulsbv8o recorded]]. The producers didn't particularly like it, however, and so swapped in Jerry Goldsmith's theme from ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'', albeit still keeping a good chunk of [=McCarthy's=] theme, which in the final version plays until the show's title card appears.
10th Oct '17 1:06:07 AM bombadil211
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* RomanceOnTheSet: Patrick Stewart, on the lookout for the ''next'' Ex-Ms. Patrick Stewart, dated Jennifer Hetrick (Vash) during Seasons 3 & 4. They were briefly engaged during "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E20Qpid}} Qpid]]", but nothing came of it. In 2000, six years after TNG ended, Stewart and producer Wendy Neuss did marry. They divorced three years later.

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Patrick Stewart, on the lookout for the ''next'' Ex-Ms. Patrick Stewart, dated Jennifer Hetrick (Vash) during Seasons 3 & 4. They were briefly engaged during "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E20Qpid}} Qpid]]", but nothing came of it. In 2000, six years after TNG ended, Stewart and producer Wendy Neuss did marry. They divorced three years later.
** Early in the show's run and prior to her marriage, Marina Sirtis liked to have flings with male guest stars leading to the cast affectionately and endlessly teasing her about her proclivities even decades
later.
7th Oct '17 10:08:19 PM FearlessSon
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** Gates McFadden was essentially fired from the show between the first and second seasons, after some rather stern disagreements with one of the producers (which is understandable considering how infamously troubled that season was.) The mountain of fan letters pouring in (and the ouster of that producer) lead to her coming back.

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** Gates McFadden Creator/GatesMcFadden was essentially fired from the show between the first and second seasons, after some rather stern disagreements with one of the producers (which is understandable considering how infamously troubled that season was.) The mountain of fan letters pouring in (and the ouster of that producer) lead to her coming back.
7th Oct '17 10:07:19 PM FearlessSon
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** Gates McFadden was essentially fired from the show between the first and second seasons, after some rather stern disagreements with one of the producers (which is understandable considering how infamously troubled that season was.) The mountain of fan letters pouring in (and the ouster of that producer) lead to her coming back.
3rd Oct '17 4:19:49 AM ClintEastwood
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*** Possible, despite real-world politics, given Trek's timeline with the Eugenics Wars and World War 3

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*** Possible, despite real-world politics, given Trek's timeline with the Eugenics Wars and World War 33.
3rd Oct '17 4:14:30 AM ClintEastwood
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** Sir Pat Stu: " [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E13TimeSquared}} Time Squared]]" (Creator/PatrickStewart plays two Picards), and a dual role as [[Theatre/HenryV Michael Williams]] in Data's holodeck play in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E10TheDefector}} The Defector]]".

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** Sir Pat Stu: " [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E13TimeSquared}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E13TimeSquared}} Time Squared]]" (Creator/PatrickStewart plays two Picards), and a dual role as [[Theatre/HenryV Michael Williams]] in Data's holodeck play in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E10TheDefector}} The Defector]]".



** Similar to how Sisko does with baseball, Picard enjoys using Shakespeare as a metaphor for the human condition. Of course, everyone knows about Stewart's background in Shakespearean theater; he quotes ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E9HideAndQ}} Hide and Q]]", and participates in Data's production of ''Theatre/HenryV''.

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** Similar to how Sisko does with baseball, Picard enjoys using Shakespeare as a metaphor for the human condition. Of course, everyone knows about Stewart's background in Shakespearean theater; he quotes ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' in " [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E9HideAndQ}} "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E9HideAndQ}} Hide and Q]]", and participates in Data's production of ''Theatre/HenryV''.



** Keiko is from Japan; Rosalind Chao is Chinese-American. Funnily enough, her [[FountainOfYouth 12-year-old self]] in "Rascals" was played by Caroline Junko King, a Japanese-American, thus getting the ethnicity right.

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** Keiko is from Japan; Rosalind Chao is Chinese-American. Funnily enough, her [[FountainOfYouth 12-year-old self]] in "Rascals" "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E7Rascals}} Rascals]]" was played by Caroline Junko King, a Japanese-American, thus getting the ethnicity right.



** ‘Some day I’m going to be a Starship Captain!’ says Rene Picard, which is almost a portent of the future since David Tristan Birkin would go on to play Baby!Picard in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E7Rascals}} Rascals]]."

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** ‘Some day I’m going to be a Starship Captain!’ says Rene Picard, which is almost a portent of the future since David Tristan Birkin would go on to play Baby!Picard in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E7Rascals}} Rascals]]."Rascals]]".
3rd Oct '17 3:33:45 AM Morgenthaler
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** With the high profile of ''The Next Generation'' securing his position, Roddenberry was able to leverage more control over the [[StarTrekExpandedUniverse tie-ins]] set inside his universe. His archivist, Richard Arnold, immediately began cleaning house. The on-going Creator/DCComics ''Star Trek'' series was immediately cancelled and retconned, replaced with a follow-up that would be much more in tune with the TV series. (Plus one that didn’t deal in as many original or “non-canon” characters.) Arnold also went to work on the [[Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse novels]], bringing his strict editorial sensibilities to bear. Arnold has had a number of choice comments about how he views the writers of tie-in materials, going to far as to suggest that many of the tie-in writers “had never written ''Star Trek''”.

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** With the high profile of ''The Next Generation'' securing his position, Roddenberry was able to leverage more control over the [[StarTrekExpandedUniverse [[Franchise/StarTrekExpandedUniverse tie-ins]] set inside his universe. His archivist, Richard Arnold, immediately began cleaning house. The on-going Creator/DCComics ''Star Trek'' series was immediately cancelled and retconned, replaced with a follow-up that would be much more in tune with the TV series. (Plus one that didn’t deal in as many original or “non-canon” characters.) Arnold also went to work on the [[Franchise/StarTrekNovelVerse novels]], bringing his strict editorial sensibilities to bear. Arnold has had a number of choice comments about how he views the writers of tie-in materials, going to far as to suggest that many of the tie-in writers “had never written ''Star Trek''”.
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