History Trivia / StarTrekEnterprise

29th May '16 8:54:57 AM DrRomoray
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Oh good ''gravy''...
** Creator/RussellTDavies, who was writing ''Series/DoctorWho'' at the time of ENT, was putting out feelers for a possible [[IntercontinuityCrossover live-action crossover]]. This was guessed to be an unfounded rumor until Brannon Braga confirmed it.
** Initial plans for the show that were changed before filming:
*** In very early stages of planning the show, the producers considered setting the entire first season on Earth and focusing on the lead-up to the mission, and only actually launching the Enterprise NX-01 in the season finale (which would make the title "Enterprise" a bit of a pun, in fact). There was an ExecutiveVeto, and they were told to get exploring space from the start.
*** Andre Bormanis’ original pitch for the character (strangled in the crib by Berman and Braga) was that Phlox turns out to have not been a Doctor but a [[HalfTruth veterinarian]] on Denobula, and was [[BackAlleyDoctor expressly forbidden]] from operating on humanoid lifeforms.
*** T'Pol was originally going to be T'Pau, who appears in [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] episode "Amok Time" as [[AscendedExtra the priestess officiating at Spock's wedding]]. They must have realized just what dissonance that would cause with continuity and established character. T'Pau later appears in the fourth season of ENT as a young woman on Vulcan who is leading the Syrranites -- reformers who want to re-establish Surak's anti-military, non-violent principles.
*** Mayweather was originally envisioned as [[OlderSidekick older and more seasoned]], making him a valuable advisor to the comparatively rookie Captain Archer. He was ultimately rewritten as green and desperate to prove himself, not unlike Wesley Crusher.
** Like Combs, J.G. Hertzler lobbied for his Klingon defense attorney, Kolos, to join the NX-01. "They could use an old curmudgeon like me to balance all the hot young men and women on the show!" ([[BestKnownForTheFanservice Fat chance.]])
** Mike Sussman's original idea for "E-Squared" would be the ''Columbia'' being thrown back in time instead--a result of trying to use Xindi vortex technology (likely salvaged from the crashed probe weapon). The NX-01 crew would thus meet the NX-02 crew's descendants.
** The network wanted to kill Archer off at the end of "Zero Hour". Which would have been… interesting. Manny Coto has admitted that he was tempted.
** "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part I" and "Part II" arose from plans for William Shatner to guest star as Evil Kirk, last seen in "Mirror, Mirror". Since it was little more than a cameo, Shatner likely shot the idea down, and his castmates gave ''Enterprise'' a "meh" grade, anyway.
** Plans for a fifth season, which was never made due to the show being cancelled:
*** The NX-01 would have been refitted with a secondary hull underneath the warp nacelles, ceramic plating, and a deflector dish, which makes it look very much like the prototype for what would become the Constitution in TOS. The new design appeared in the 2011 "Ships of the Line" calendar.
*** Shran would have become a main character and joined the NX-01 in an [[SixthRanger advisory capacity]]. Jeffrey Combs had been pushing to become a ''Trek'' regular since the eighties, and compared his perpetual b-status to watching a baseball game from the outfield.
*** Several reappearances of characters or species from the original series would have included the character Flint, the cloud city of Stratos, and the Kzinti from the animated series.
*** There would have been more stories set entirely in the Mirror Universe, following up on "In a Mirror, Darkly". They would have consisted of several standalone episodes interspersed throughout the season.
*** Tensions with the Romulans would have escalated, as a prelude to the forthcoming Earth-Romulan War.
*** More would have been revealed about T'Pol's father, specifically that he was a Romulan sleeper agent, leading up to the reveal that T'Pol was half-Romulan, explaining her inherent difficulties with emotion.
*** Peter Weller would have directed a few episodes, as part of the deal he made for his guest role in season four.
** And, of course, in general the fifth season would have been in the vein of the fourth season in terms of structure and tone. Given that it is nigh-universally agreed that season 4 was ''vastly'' stronger than the other seasons, it seems very likely that a season 5 and even 6 would've salvaged the show's reputation with the wider viewing public in the same way ''TNG'' is considered to have improved dramatically after its rocky start.
** There exists an interview with Scott Bakula conducted in the run-up to the release of ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' in which he says, with utmost confidence, that the next ''Star Trek'' movie [[YankTheDogsChain would be about him and his crew]]. Come 2008 (later delayed to 2009, but close enough), after what would have been the customary seven years, we did indeed get [[Film/StarTrek a new film]] - about [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]]. Presumably, if either ''Nemesis'' or ''Enterprise'' - most likely both - hadn't bombed, we would have seen Captain Archer on the big screen instead.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Oh good ''gravy''...
** Creator/RussellTDavies, who was writing ''Series/DoctorWho'' at the time of ENT, was putting out feelers for a possible [[IntercontinuityCrossover live-action crossover]]. This was guessed to be an unfounded rumor until Brannon Braga confirmed it.
** Initial plans for the show that were changed before filming:
*** In very early stages of planning the show, the producers considered setting the entire first season on Earth and focusing on the lead-up to the mission, and only actually launching the Enterprise NX-01 in the season finale (which would make the title "Enterprise" a bit of a pun, in fact). There was an ExecutiveVeto, and they were told to get exploring space from the start.
*** Andre Bormanis’ original pitch for the character (strangled in the crib by Berman and Braga) was that Phlox turns out to have not been a Doctor but a [[HalfTruth veterinarian]] on Denobula, and was [[BackAlleyDoctor expressly forbidden]] from operating on humanoid lifeforms.
*** T'Pol was originally going to be T'Pau, who appears in [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original series]] episode "Amok Time" as [[AscendedExtra the priestess officiating at Spock's wedding]]. They must have realized just what dissonance that would cause with continuity and established character. T'Pau later appears in the fourth season of ENT as a young woman on Vulcan who is leading the Syrranites -- reformers who want to re-establish Surak's anti-military, non-violent principles.
*** Mayweather was originally envisioned as [[OlderSidekick older and more seasoned]], making him a valuable advisor to the comparatively rookie Captain Archer. He was ultimately rewritten as green and desperate to prove himself, not unlike Wesley Crusher.
** Like Combs, J.G. Hertzler lobbied for his Klingon defense attorney, Kolos, to join the NX-01. "They could use an old curmudgeon like me to balance all the hot young men and women on the show!" ([[BestKnownForTheFanservice Fat chance.]])
** Mike Sussman's original idea for "E-Squared" would be the ''Columbia'' being thrown back in time instead--a result of trying to use Xindi vortex technology (likely salvaged from the crashed probe weapon). The NX-01 crew would thus meet the NX-02 crew's descendants.
** The network wanted to kill Archer off at the end of "Zero Hour". Which would have been… interesting. Manny Coto has admitted that he was tempted.
** "In a Mirror, Darkly, Part I" and "Part II" arose from plans for William Shatner to guest star as Evil Kirk, last seen in "Mirror, Mirror". Since it was little more than a cameo, Shatner likely shot the idea down, and his castmates gave ''Enterprise'' a "meh" grade, anyway.
** Plans for a fifth season, which was never made due to the show being cancelled:
*** The NX-01 would have been refitted with a secondary hull underneath the warp nacelles, ceramic plating, and a deflector dish, which makes it look very much like the prototype for what would become the Constitution in TOS. The new design appeared in the 2011 "Ships of the Line" calendar.
*** Shran would have become a main character and joined the NX-01 in an [[SixthRanger advisory capacity]]. Jeffrey Combs had been pushing to become a ''Trek'' regular since the eighties, and compared his perpetual b-status to watching a baseball game from the outfield.
*** Several reappearances of characters or species from the original series would have included the character Flint, the cloud city of Stratos, and the Kzinti from the animated series.
*** There would have been more stories set entirely in the Mirror Universe, following up on "In a Mirror, Darkly". They would have consisted of several standalone episodes interspersed throughout the season.
*** Tensions with the Romulans would have escalated, as a prelude to the forthcoming Earth-Romulan War.
*** More would have been revealed about T'Pol's father, specifically that he was a Romulan sleeper agent, leading up to the reveal that T'Pol was half-Romulan, explaining her inherent difficulties with emotion.
*** Peter Weller would have directed a few episodes, as part of the deal he made for his guest role in season four.
** And, of course, in general the fifth season would have been in the vein of the fourth season in terms of structure and tone. Given that it is nigh-universally agreed that season 4 was ''vastly'' stronger than the other seasons, it seems very likely that a season 5 and even 6 would've salvaged the show's reputation with the wider viewing public in the same way ''TNG'' is considered to have improved dramatically after its rocky start.
** There exists an interview with Scott Bakula conducted in the run-up to the release of ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'' in which he says, with utmost confidence, that the next ''Star Trek'' movie [[YankTheDogsChain would be about him and his crew]]. Come 2008 (later delayed to 2009, but close enough), after what would have been the customary seven years, we did indeed get [[Film/StarTrek a new film]] - about [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries Captain Kirk]]. Presumably, if either ''Nemesis'' or ''Enterprise'' - most likely both - hadn't bombed, we would have seen Captain Archer on the big screen instead.
''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen/StarTrekEnterprise gravy]]''...
29th May '16 8:26:56 AM DrRomoray
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** Last we saw L'Vas, he was staging a coup at Starfleet HQ. Now he's staging a coup on the Vulcan High Council. It's always something what that guy.
** Cyia Batten, who played [[TheOtherDarrin the first Tora Ziyal]] (before they decided to go older) and a race car driver in "Drive" (VOY), reappears as one of the Orion slave girls in "Bound".
** Vaughn Armstrong gives Jeffrey Combs a run for his money: He played 9 alien roles (mostly Klingons) all across TNG, [=DS9=] VOY, and ENT. Armstrong also doubles as a Kreetassan captain in two episodes. Yep, that's him chewing out Archer in "A Night in Sickbay". His most prominent role is that of Commodore Maxwell Forest, the man in charge of the NX project. Nice to be free of all that latex, eh?

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** Last The last time we saw met L'Vas, he was staging a coup at Starfleet HQ.HQ ("Homefront", [=DS9=]). Now he's staging a coup on the Vulcan High Council. It's always something what with that guy.
** Cyia Batten, who played [[TheOtherDarrin the first Tora Ziyal]] (before they decided to go older) and a race car driver in "Drive" (VOY), reappears shakes her money-maker as one of the an Orion slave girls in "Bound".
girl ("Bound").
** Vaughn Armstrong gives Jeffrey Combs a run for his money: He played 9 alien roles (mostly Klingons) all across TNG, [=DS9=] VOY, and ENT. Armstrong also doubles as a Kreetassan captain in two episodes. Yep, that's him chewing out Archer in "A Night in Sickbay". \\\
His most prominent biggest role yet is that of Commodore Maxwell Forest, the man in charge of the NX project. Nice to be free of all that latex, eh?
28th May '16 4:48:31 PM DrRomoray
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** Last we saw Soval, he was teachng Kes to put out a candle with her mind.

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** Last we saw Soval, he was teachng teaching Kes to put out a candle with her mind.mind.
** Last we saw L'Vas, he was staging a coup at Starfleet HQ. Now he's staging a coup on the Vulcan High Council. It's always something what that guy.
** Cyia Batten, who played [[TheOtherDarrin the first Tora Ziyal]] (before they decided to go older) and a race car driver in "Drive" (VOY), reappears as one of the Orion slave girls in "Bound".
25th May '16 5:44:28 AM DrRomoray
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** Responsible for the much-loathed pop-song credits. Rick Berman is notorious for his milquetoast taste in music. *** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg This]] is what it would have looked like. If that music sounds familiar, it should -- it's "Archer's Theme," the closing credits music, originally intended for the credits sequence and written by the same person responsible for ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s theme. An even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwv1ZipTL4 earlier concept]] resembled the other Trek series' credits even more, including the famous OpeningNarration.

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** Responsible for the much-loathed pop-song credits. Rick Berman is notorious for his milquetoast taste in music.
*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg This]] is what it would have looked was supposed to sound like. If that music sounds familiar, it should -- it's "Archer's Theme," the closing credits music, originally intended for the credits sequence and written by the same person responsible for ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s theme. An even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwv1ZipTL4 earlier concept]] resembled the other Trek series' credits even more, including the famous OpeningNarration.
25th May '16 5:43:45 AM DrRomoray
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** Responsible for the much-loathed pop-song credits. Rick Berman is notorious for his milquetoast taste in music. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg This]] is what it would have looked like. If that music sounds familiar, it should -- it's "Archer's Theme," the closing credits music, originally intended for the credits sequence and written by the same person responsible for ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s theme. An even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwv1ZipTL4 earlier concept]] resembled the other Trek series' credits even more, including the famous OpeningNarration.

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** Responsible for the much-loathed pop-song credits. Rick Berman is notorious for his milquetoast taste in music. *** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8vslSWlsEg This]] is what it would have looked like. If that music sounds familiar, it should -- it's "Archer's Theme," the closing credits music, originally intended for the credits sequence and written by the same person responsible for ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'''s theme. An even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwv1ZipTL4 earlier concept]] resembled the other Trek series' credits even more, including the famous OpeningNarration.OpeningNarration.
** On the commentary for "Demons", Connor Trinneer and Dominic Keating have a laugh at how frequently the studio insisted on changing Scott Bakula’s hair to make him seem [[DependingOnTheWriter older or younger or roguish or straight-laced.]]
23rd May '16 1:11:38 PM Godzillafan93
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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]]

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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[VideoGame/Halo VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]]
23rd May '16 1:09:18 PM Godzillafan93
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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]

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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [VideoGame/Halo [[VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]]]
23rd May '16 1:04:30 PM Godzillafan93
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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.

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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[VideoGame/Halo [VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]
23rd May '16 1:02:36 PM Godzillafan93
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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[Franchise/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.

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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[Franchise/Halo [[VideoGame/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.
23rd May '16 1:01:58 PM Godzillafan93
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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[Franchise/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]]

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** It can't be a coincidence that ENT's announcement came shortly before the much-anticipated second chapter of the [[StarWars prequel trilogy]]. This would explain the Palpatine-like hologram who bosses the Suliban around. The introduction of the Xindi -- people in funny make-up bickering around a table -- evokes the opening of ''The Phantom Menace'' inside the Trade Federation flagship and Senate chamber, with long conversations about trade negotiations and taxation. [[Franchise/Halo The idea of a multi-species alien alliance hell bent on destroying Earth is not exactly a new premise in sci-fi, either.]]
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