History Trivia / SecretEmpire

* LyingCreator: Perhaps one of the reasons why this event is so contentious. From the nature of Steve Rogers' FaceHeelTurn, to how Mjolnir was able to be lifted by Steve, to the use of several plot devices that Nick Spencer swore up-and-down would not be used to resolve the story.

* IKnewIt: Many people figured that the Cosmic Cube would be used to set things straight in the end.

* DisownedAdaptation: When the initial "Hail HYDRA" twist from ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaSteveRogers" made headlines on the Internet, Creator/ChrisEvans made it clear on his Twitter that he was very much opposed to the idea. According to Creator/TheRussoBrothers, the brief TakeThat aimed at the twist in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'' [[ActorInspiredElement was his idea]].

* FanNickname: Numerous ones for HYDRA-fied Steve Rogers. Including Hauptman Hydra, Captain Hydra, Captain Nazi, Fuhrer, Captain Hitler, Scumbag Steve, [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Crazy Steve]], and [=HydraCap=]. Even gets done in-universe. Rocket Raccoon lists off Captain Octopushead and his personal favorite, 'Stevil.'

* IKnewIt: A [[SarcasmMode few]] people figured that the Cosmic Cube would be used to set things straight in the end.

* LyingCreator: Perhaps one of the reasons why this event is so contentious. From the nature of Steve Rogers FaceHeelTurn, to how Mjolnir was able to be lifted by Steve, to the use of several plot devices that Nick Spencer swore up-and-down would not be used to resolve the story.

* RealitySubtext: Carol's speech to Quasar in issue #7 about her recent mistakes seems like an acknowledgement of the incredibly misguided decisions Marvel made while trying to raise the character's profile in anticipation of the live-action ''Film/CaptainMarvel'' movie.

* UrbanLegendofZelda:

* UrbanLegends:
** Prior to the end of the series, a post went up on 4chan talking about the so-called "original" plan for ''Secret Empire'' and ''Generations'' -- Kobik would still be the catalyst to save the day, but, similar to ''Dark Reign'', the World Security Council (who was brought in in ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'') would take over and impose their rule over the superhuman populace. ''Generations'' would have brought back the original heroes and, while they would go off to reconnect with the populace, the younger heroes would become the "Resistance" against the WSC with their titles relaunching as a brand new "Ultimate" line.
** A different 4chan post, and one that is slightly more plausible, instead posits that Secret Empire's ending was partly rewritten halfway thru amid the backlash of Nazi Steve, and that the plan was for Sam Wilson, once and for all, becoming the new Captain America by saving the day from an unreformed Steve. Not only that, but with Pym being part Ultron, Stark out of commission, Thor being unworthy, Clint being a murderer, Bruce being dead, Vision being reformatted and so on... it would cement a new era for younger/different heroes; but due to the backlash... well, it's believed the original idea was scrapped. That they added the pages of Steve in the Kobikspace, which doesn't interact with the main story until near the very end, and two gratuitous panels that link to ''Generations'' add credence to this theory.

* UrbanLegendOfZelda:

** A different 4chan post, and one that is slightly more plausible, instead posits that Secret Empire's ending was partly rewritten halfway thru amid the backlash of Nazi Steve, and that the plan was for Sam Wilson, once and for all, becoming the new Captain America by saving the day from an unreformed Steve. Not only that, but with Pym being part Ultron, Stark out of commission, Thor being unworthy, Clint being a murderer, Bruce being dead, Vision being reformatted and so on... it would cement a new era for younger/different heroes; but due to the backlash... well, its believed the original idea was scrapped. That they added the pages of Steve in the Kobikspace, which doesn't interact with the main story until near the very end, and two gratuitous panels that link to ''Generations'' add credence to this theory.

** A different 4chan post, and one that is slightly more plausible, instead posits that Secret Empire's ending was partly rewritten halfway thru amid the backlash of Nazi Steve, and that the plan was for Sam Wilson, once and for all, becoming the new Captain America by saving the day from an unreformed Steve. Not only that, but with Pym being part Ultron, Stark out of commission, Thor being unworthy, Clint being a murderer, Bruce being dead, Vision being reformatted and so on... it would cement a new era for younger/different heroes; but due to the backlash... well, its believed the original idea was scrapped. That they added the pages of Steve in the Kobikspace, which doesn't interact with the main story until near the very end, and two gratuitous panels that link to generations add credence to this theory.

** A different 4chan post, and one that is slightly more plausible, instead posits that Secret Empire's second half was rewritten halfway thru amid the backlash of Nazi Steve, and that the plan was for Sam Wilson, once and for all, becoming the new Captain America by saving the day from an unreformed Steve. Not only that, but with Pym being part Ultron, Stark out of commission, Thor being unworthy, Clint being a murderer, Bruce being dead, Vision being reformatted and so on... it would cement a new era for younger/different heroes; but due to the backlash... well, its believed the original idea was scrapped. That they added the pages of Steve in the Kobikspace, which doesn't interact with the main story until near the very end adds credence to this theory.

* IKnewIt: A few people figured that the Cosmic Cube would be used to set things straight in the end.

** A different 4chan post, and one that is more credible, instead posits that Secret Empire was rewritten halfway thru amid the backlash of Nazi Steve, and that the plan was for Sam Wilson, once and for all, becoming the new Captain America by saving the day from an unreformed Steve. Not only that, but with Pym being part Ultron, Stark out of commission, Thor being unworthy, Clint being a murderer, Bruce being dead, Vision being reformatted and so on... it would cement a new era for younger/different heroes; but due to the backlash... well, its believed that ending got scrapped.

* UrbanLegendOfZelda: Prior to the end of the series, a post went up on 4chan talking about the so-called "original" plan for ''Secret Empire'' and ''Generations'' -- Kobik would still be the catalyst to save the day, but, similar to ''Dark Reign'', the World Security Council (who was brought in in ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'') would take over and impose their rule over the superhuman populace. ''Generations'' would have brought back the original heroes and, while they would go off to reconnect with the populace, the younger heroes would become the "Resistance" against the WSC with their titles relaunching as a brand new "Ultimate" line

* ScheduleSlip: Issue #6 gets delayed, but by only a week.

* LyingCreator: Perhaps one of the reasons why this event is so contentious. From the nature of Steve Rogers, to how Mjolnir was able to be lifted by Steve, to the use of several plot devices.

* LyingCreator: Perhaps one of the reasons why this event is so contentious. From the nature of Steve Rogers, to how Mjolnir was able to be lifted by Steve, the use of several plot devices and the use of a ResetButtonEnding.

* ScheduleSlip: Issue #6 gets delayed, but by only a week.

* ScheduleSlip: To the surprise of no one, issue six ended up getting delayed a week.