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** In general, it's been stated by numerous sources that the films from ''Film/SawIV'' to ''Film/Saw3D'' had a rough maximum runtime of 90 minutes set by the executive producers (they were allowed to surpass said maximum by a bit, but not significantly), which led to numerous changes and cut content from these movies' original drafts.



** ''Film/Saw3D'':
*** ''Saw 3D''[='s=] storyline was originally going to be shared between two movies, the second one being centered around [[spoiler:what Gordon did over the course of the previous movies as an accomplice of Jigsaw]]. Due to the underperforming box office results of ''Film/SawVI'', the executives condensed the two planned movies into ''Saw 3D''.
*** A massively cunning, yet very dickish move by Lionsgate and Twisted Pictures happened two weeks before the shooting of ''Saw 3D'' began. They contractually forced the director of ''Saw VI'', Kevin Greutert, to return and direct ''Saw 3D'' while having David Hackl, the original director who previously directed ''Saw V'', shifted over to a yet-unconfirmed Lionsgate movie. This was because Greutert was originally set to direct ''[[Film/ParanormalActivity Paranormal Activity 2]]'', which was scheduled to be released on the same date as ''Saw 3D'' in a similar situation to how the first ''Paranormal Activity'' film contended with ''Saw VI'' in 2009. Needless to say, both Greutert and Hackl didn't take that move very well.

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** ''Film/Saw3D'':
''Saw 3D'':
*** ''Saw 3D''[='s=] storyline was originally going to be shared between two movies, the second one being centered around [[spoiler:what Gordon did over the course of the previous movies as an accomplice of Jigsaw]]. Due to the underperforming box office results of ''Film/SawVI'', ''Saw VI'', the executives condensed the two planned movies into ''Saw 3D''.
*** A massively cunning, yet very dickish move by Lionsgate and Twisted Pictures happened two weeks before the shooting of ''Saw 3D'' began. They contractually forced the director of ''Saw VI'', Kevin Greutert, to return and direct ''Saw 3D'' while having David Hackl, the original director who previously directed ''Saw V'', ''Film/SawV'', shifted over to a yet-unconfirmed Lionsgate movie. This was because Greutert was originally set to direct ''[[Film/ParanormalActivity Paranormal Activity 2]]'', which was scheduled to be released on the same date as ''Saw 3D'' in a similar situation to how the first ''Paranormal Activity'' film contended with ''Saw VI'' in 2009. Needless to say, both Greutert and Hackl didn't take that move very well.
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** ''Saw III'':

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** ''Saw III'':''Film/SawIII'':



** ''Saw 3D'':
*** ''Saw 3D'''s storyline was originally going to be shared between two movies, the second one being centered around [[spoiler:what Gordon did over the course of the previous movies as an accomplice of Jigsaw]]. Due to the underperforming box office results of ''Saw VI'', the executives condensed the two planned movies into ''Saw 3D''.

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** ''Saw 3D'':
''Film/Saw3D'':
*** ''Saw 3D'''s 3D''[='s=] storyline was originally going to be shared between two movies, the second one being centered around [[spoiler:what Gordon did over the course of the previous movies as an accomplice of Jigsaw]]. Due to the underperforming box office results of ''Saw VI'', ''Film/SawVI'', the executives condensed the two planned movies into ''Saw 3D''.
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*** The film's writers, Josh Stolberg and Peter Goldfinger, are longtime ''Saw'' fans who had spent two years pursuing the opportunity to write an installment in the franchise before they were able to pitch their idea. They eventually returned as writers for ''Spiral''.

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*** The film's writers, Josh Stolberg and Peter Goldfinger, are longtime ''Saw'' fans who had spent two years pursuing the opportunity to write an installment in the franchise before they were able to pitch their idea. They eventually returned as writers for ''Spiral''.''Spiral'' and ''Film/SawX''.
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** In the ''Saw V'' home video extra "The Making of the Cube Trap", Patrick Melton mentions that the Water Cube was initially written for use in ''Saw IV'' before being moved to ''V'' for being deemed better for that film.

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** In the ''Saw V'' home video extra "The Making of the Cube Trap", Patrick Melton mentions that the Water Cube was initially written for use in ''Saw IV'' before being moved to ''V'' for being deemed better for in that film.
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** In the ''Saw V'' home video extra "The Making of the Cube Trap", Patrick Melton mentions that the Water Cube was initially written for use in ''Saw IV'' before being moved to ''V'' for being deemed better for that film.
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* SequelGap:
** 7 years passed between the releases of ''Film/Saw3D'' and ''Film/{{Jigsaw}}''.
** Although ''Film/SawX'' was released two years after the previous film, ''[[Film/Spiral2021 Spiral]]'', it returns to the storyline spanning between ''Film/SawI'' and ''Film/SawII'' as an {{Interquel}}; it was released almost 19 and 18 years, respectively, after those two films, and counting the rest of the first seven films up to ''3D'', the gap is close to 13 years.
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* TheWikiRule: [[https://sawfilms.fandom.com/wiki/Saw_Wiki Saw Wiki]]
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* NoStuntDouble: As seen in behind the scenes segments on how the traps are made, plenty of the traps (even the most dangerous) had the actor themselves with special precautions in place, rather than a stunt double. Namely, in ''Saw V'', it was really Joris Jarsky (Seth Baxter) and Creator/ScottPatterson (Peter Strahm) in the Pendulum Trap and Water Cube.[[note]]The former's lower body sat in a strategically placed hole while a ''real'' pendulum cut his pretend foam/rubber body, and the latter's head was placed inside of a glass cube filled with water with two accessible doors until he signaled to be let out. It was said that the latter trap ''had'' to have Patterson instead of a stunt double [[EnforcedMethodActing out of realism for the scene.]][[/note]]

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* NoStuntDouble: As seen in behind the scenes segments on how the traps are made, plenty of the traps (even the most dangerous) had the actor themselves with special precautions in place, rather than a stunt double. Namely, in ''Saw V'', it was really Joris Jarsky (Seth Baxter) and Creator/ScottPatterson (Peter Strahm) in the Pendulum Trap and Water Cube.[[note]]The former's lower body sat in a strategically placed hole while a ''real'' pendulum cut his pretend foam/rubber body, and the latter's head was placed inside of a glass cube filled with water with two accessible doors until he signaled to be let out. It was even said that the latter trap ''had'' to have Patterson instead of a stunt double [[EnforcedMethodActing out of realism for the scene.]][[/note]]
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Trivia can't be played with.


* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed. Leigh Whannell has been on record for a while about his belief that it would've been best for the series to stop after three films as was originally planned. In a 2022 tweet from his now-deleted Website/{{Twitter}} account, he clarified that he didn't follow any of the media released afterwards, stating that he hasn't seen ''V'' or ''VI'' to this day and doesn't know who Hoffman is.

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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed. Leigh Whannell has been on record for a while about his belief that it would've been best for the series to stop after three films as was originally planned. In a 2022 tweet from his now-deleted Website/{{Twitter}} account, he clarified that he didn't follow any of the media released afterwards, stating that he hasn't seen ''V'' or ''VI'' to this day and doesn't know who Hoffman is.
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Removing this because it doesn't make sense, now that I understand the NC-17 rating.


* AvoidTheDreadedGRating: A somewhat inverted example happened with ''III'', ''IV'' and ''3D''. The three movies received an NC-17 rating upon first review by the MPAA, and had to be cut, altered or edited in order to warrant an R rating.
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* ''Trivia/SawX''
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* CompilationRerelease: Ever since the release of ''Saw II'', there have been a number of increasingly large DVD/Blu-ray sets of multiple films in the series, starting with a two-movie pack including the first two films and culminating with a box set containing all the nine films up to ''Film/Spiral2021''.

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* CompilationRerelease: Ever since the release of ''Saw II'', there have been a number of increasingly large DVD/Blu-ray sets compilations of multiple films in the series, starting with a two-movie pack including the first two films and culminating with a box set containing all the nine films up to ''Film/Spiral2021''.
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* CompilationRerelease: Ever since the release of ''Saw II'', there have been a number of increasingly large DVD/Blu-ray sets of multiple films in the series, starting with a two-movie pack including the first two films and culminating with a box set containing all the nine films up to ''Film/Spiral2021''.
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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes. It got to the point that many of the posters from that point onwards [[AdvertisedExtra featured a representation of Jigsaw's face in some way]].

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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes. It got to the point that many of the posters from that point onwards [[AdvertisedExtra featured a representation presentation of Jigsaw's face in some way]].
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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes. It got to the point that many of the posters from that point onwards tended to [[AdvertisedExtra feature a representation of Jigsaw's face in some way]].

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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes. It got to the point that many of the posters from that point onwards tended to [[AdvertisedExtra feature featured a representation of Jigsaw's face in some way]].
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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes.

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* BillingDisplacement: After the first movie, Creator/TobinBell was always top-billed in most movies in the series (except ''Jigsaw'' and ''Spiral'', the latter in which he's absent for the first time in the series) due to him playing Jigsaw, even after ''Saw III'', where Jigsaw is already dead and only appears in a handful of flashbacks and tapes. It got to the point that many of the posters from that point onwards tended to [[AdvertisedExtra feature a representation of Jigsaw's face in some way]].
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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official, hence why it wasn't said in any of the media themselves.

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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official, hence why it wasn't said anywhere in any of the media themselves.franchise itself.
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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official, hence why it wasn't mentioned in any of the media themselves.

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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official, hence why it wasn't mentioned said in any of the media themselves.
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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official.

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* ProductionNickname: Billy the Puppet's name was originally a Production Nickname before it became official.official, hence why it wasn't mentioned in any of the media themselves.
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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'' (and as a response to fan theories he saw on message boards in the internet), director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).

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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'' (and as a response to a fan theories theory he saw on message boards in the internet), director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done the theory became AscendedFanon later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).
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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'' (as a response to fan theories he saw on message boards in the internet), director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).

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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'' (as (and as a response to fan theories he saw on message boards in the internet), director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).
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* AscendedFanon: For years, it had been a fan theory that the man limping and putting the key behind Michael's eye in the video shown in ''Saw II'' was [[spoiler:Lawrence Gordon]]. Fans were also convinced that he assisted in other traps that [[spoiler:required medical knowledge]]. In ''Saw 3D'', this became canonical (despite director Kevin Greutert's original desire to have him get revenge against Jigsaw and his accomplices).

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* AscendedFanon: For years, it had been a fan theory that the man limping and putting the key behind Michael's eye in the video shown in ''Saw II'' was [[spoiler:Lawrence Gordon]].Gordon]] (which Darren Lynn Bousman mentioned in the DVD commentary of ''Saw II''). Fans were also convinced that he assisted in other traps that [[spoiler:required medical knowledge]]. In ''Saw 3D'', this became canonical (despite director Kevin Greutert's original desire to have him get revenge against Jigsaw and his accomplices).



** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).

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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', II'' (as a response to fan theories he saw on message boards in the internet), director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).
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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement.

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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement.movement (as well as to show the progress of Jigsaw's cancer since the first film).
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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement.

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** In the DVD commentary of ''Saw II'', director Darren Lynn Bousman stated that he was the one who played the figure (initially meant to be Jigsaw until an official establishment done later in ''Saw [=3D=]'') who's seen placing the key behind Michael's eye in the correspondent video tape. He further said that he hobbled around to give flavor to the figure's movement.
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed. Leigh Whannell has been on record for a while about his belief that it would've been best for the series to stop after three films as was originally planned; [[https://twitter.com/LWhannell/status/1512445059911720964 in a 2022 tweet]], he even stated that he hasn't seen ''V'' or ''VI'' to this day, and doesn't know who Hoffman is.

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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed. Leigh Whannell has been on record for a while about his belief that it would've been best for the series to stop after three films as was originally planned; [[https://twitter.com/LWhannell/status/1512445059911720964 in planned. In a 2022 tweet]], tweet from his now-deleted Website/{{Twitter}} account, he even stated clarified that he didn't follow any of the media released afterwards, stating that he hasn't seen ''V'' or ''VI'' to this day, day and doesn't know who Hoffman is.
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Names The Same is no longer a trope


* NamesTheSame:
** Two of the films feature a character named Dan Erickson. Another Dan Erickson was part of the main cast in ''Series/LandOfTheGiants''.
** This Eric Matthews isn't as wholesome as [[Series/BoyMeetsWorld another one by the same name]].
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Accidentally deleted a part that didn't correspond with my previous edit. An oversight.

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** The Cycle Trap's concept from ''Jigsaw'' was recycled from an unused blender-like trap that was featured in the aforementioned script for ''Saw IV''.
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"Pig Juicer Intro" was actually featured in Saw III, just not within any official soundtrack releases.


** The Cycle Trap's concept from ''Jigsaw'' was recycled from an unused blender-like trap that was featured in the aforementioned script for ''Saw IV''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EyylxvODaY&t=0s Its soundtrack]] also sounds similar to that of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_VCoE-JuU&t=0s an unused one]] for ''Saw III'', both using Music/{{Slayer}}'s "Eyes of the Insane" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcTxyFxzldU as a source sample]].
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** The Cycle Trap's concept from ''Jigsaw'' was recycled from an unused blender-like trap that was featured in the aforementioned script for ''Saw IV''.

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** The Cycle Trap's concept from ''Jigsaw'' was recycled from an unused blender-like trap that was featured in the aforementioned script for ''Saw IV''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EyylxvODaY&t=0s Its soundtrack]] also sounds similar to that of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_VCoE-JuU&t=0s an unused one]] for ''Saw III'', both using Music/{{Slayer}}'s "Eyes of the Insane" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcTxyFxzldU as a source sample]].

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