History Trivia / RedHotChiliPeppers

** Arik Marshall never recorded an album or wrote a song with the band during his tenure, although he did play several high profile shows with them, namely Hollywood Rock and Lollapalooza. Also, he appeared with the band on TheSimpsons episode "Krusty Gets Kancelled".

** The band also vowed to NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals again after seeing [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys the chimpanzee for their "Soul To Squeeze" video]] get abused by its trainer during the video's production.

* AuthorExistenceFailure: The death of Hillel Slovak. Thankfully averted (very nearly played straight) with Kiedis and Frusciante.

** "Fortune Faded" was cut from "By The Way" despite having been done live, as the group did not like the way the chorus sounded. Instead, when their Greatest Hits needed a new single a couple of years later, they remade "Fortune Faded" with a new chorus.

** *** The story doesn't even end there. Navarro's erratic behavior proved to be problematic during the disastrous tour for ''One Hot Minute''. He would throw fits, hog the spotlight, and play the music incorrectly. Eventually, Navarro was sacked in 1997, and the Peppers eventually got Frusciante back for their next three albums, which led to a resurgence in their popularity. ''One Hot Minute'' left many fans feeling strange and betrayed, while others welcomed the change. It's regarded as one of the Peppers' weaker efforts, though not their worst. The lessons learned, though, helping the band to make sure all future recordings went much smoother.

** The band also vowed NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals again after seeing [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys the chimpanzee for their "Soul To Squeeze" video]] get abused by its trainer during the video's production.

* CriticalResearchFailure: For how much they praise it, the band's first demo tape has been treated very carelessly by them and their label. They have often referred to it as having 6 tracks - but it actually included 10 tracks, complete with drum intros, and was recorded in a studio (high quality rips of which have leaked). In effect, this consisted of 7 songs that were remade on their first two albums, and 3 of the band's joke songs they would sing as filler and in interviews. All the tracks bar one ("Dum Chucka Willie") were included on "Out In LA" - but from a lower quality cassette source without the drum intros, and more egregiously "Flea Fly" cuts off partway through. The remastered CDs of the band's first two albums only included 6 of the 10 tracks from the tape (demos of tracks that had appeared across the two albums, excluding "You Always Sing The Same"), which are from an even worse tape source than that on the Out In LA compilation, with loud hum in the intro of Nevermind in particular (especially noticeable because they directly sampled that into on the Freaky Styley album version, thus could have spliced it in if that were such an issue). The remaining track on Out In LA, "Stranded", would have been in EMI's archives in better quality given it was used on the 12" of "Jungle Man" several years earlier.
* CutSong

** Their third album, ''The Uplift Mofo Party Plan'', started being worked with in early 1986, though the band had difficulty coming up with songs, primarily because of Anthony and Hillel's heroin addictions. In addition, drummer Cliff Martinez was no longer enjoying the music, spending more time drum programming than jamming (which led to his soundtrack work later on). A few tracks were demoed and one song was released at the time, "Set It Straight", though only as part of the movie ''Tough Guys'' and not included on the soundtrack. Martinez left and Jack Irons returned (as "What Is This" had just been dropped from their label), resulting in the reunion of the original lineup. This improved spirits somewhat, but only a short time later, Anthony was kicked out of the band for his heroin use causing him to regularly miss shows and recording sessions. He was briefly replaced by Ron Young, who the group did not have the same chemistry with. The group nearly split, though fortunately Anthony returned having spent a few weeks in rehab in his native Michigan, though he didn't stay clean for long. Feeling inspired from this rehab period, Anthony wrote "Fight Like A Brave" which was quickly recognised as a key track and single. The group started to demo and record the album proper with producer Michael Beinhorn who heightened tensions due to his insistence on certain production sounds and demand for repeated takes (his voice can be heard on some of the demos from this period). The label nearly refused to release one of the key tracks, "Party On Your Pussy", unless the group changed the name (which they did to "Special Secret Song Inside"). When the album and single "Fight Like A Brave" were released, it met with good reception and a European tour, though the label refused to release the album's intended second single "Behind The Sun" (which eventually was released in 1993), instead coming up with ''The Abbey Road EP'', a short compilation of older material. After all the effort making the album and touring it, Hillel Slovak died of a heroin overdose and Jack Irons left the group in response. Fortunately, they continued with a new lineup.

** ''By the Way'' was, according to John Frusciante, originally intended to be composed of melodic songs inspired by English alternative rock and post-punk (i.e. Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees, Music/{{XTC}}, Music/TheSmiths, Music/PublicImageLimited), and rawer songs inspired by early punk rock (i.e. Music/TheDamned, Music/TheRamones, Music/TheGerms), but producer Rick Rubin encouraged the band to focus on the melodic songs. One of the punk songs, "Body of Water", was recorded and became a b-side on the "Zephyr Song" CD single.

* CreatorBacklash
** Anthony doesn't like "The Greeting Song" very much - it only exists because Rick Rubin told him to write a song about girls and cars.

** Before they worked on ''Stadium Arcadium'', the band recorded sixteen songs for a follow-up to ''By the Way'' and planned on releasing it for a 2003-04 release but the label asked for a "Greatest Hits" instead, resulting in "Fortune Faded" and "Save the Population" to be included on it and "Bicycle Song" and "Runaway" to be included in the iTunes release of ''By the Way'' instead. "Rolling Sly Stone", "Leverage Of Space" and "Mini Epic" were performed live, with the first two appearing on "Live In Hyde Park" and the latter eventually appearing on the official downloads of their Cardiff and Rock Am Ring shows. Whilst initially, the group said they would rerecord the new songs for Stadium Arcadium, Frusciante had little interest in doing so due the evolved style he developed across his 2004 solo releases, there are hints that "Desecration Smile", "Hump De Bump" and "A Certain Someone" originate from this period too. A further outtake, an instrumental called "50/Fifty" leaked.

* CelebrityResemblance: Chad and Creator/WillFerrell are nearly identical, something which has lead to them challenging each other to a drum contest in 2014. Chad [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uBOtQOO70Y won.]] (with Will resorting to [[Series/SaturdayNightLive a cowbell]] at a certain point, of course)

* TroubledProduction: There are numerous examples across their career, with two standing out, ''The Uplift Mofo Part Plan'' (Anthony and Hillel's addictions made them erratic, the band clashed with producer Michael Beinhorn) and ''One Hot Minute'' (the album took a whopping three years to finish between Dave Navarro's work dynamic not fitting with the band and Anthony relapsing into drugs).
* VindicatedByHistory: The closing track on the band's first album, the dark and melancholic "Grand Pappy Du Plenty", is commonly regarded as an important milestone in their career. At the time, it was so drastically different from anything else that it wasn't really noticed. Since then it became clear the band were inspired for it for the commonly regarded fan favorite "Venice Queen", its popularity has gone up considerably.
** Many fans viewed ''By The Way'' as a complete sellout in its day. Since the band returned to their funkier sound for ''Stadium Arcadium'', a lot of fans went back to ''By The Way'' and found it was far better than they expected.
** Fans have began to warm up to ''One Hot Minute'', realising that the album does contain many genuinely good songs and recognize the fact that not only did Navarro help the band mature and develop their sound to the point that it's easy to spot his influence on later albums, but that there is the very real possibility that the Chili Peppers wouldn't exist today without him. The One Hot Minute era was a very stressful time for everyone involved and the band considers it a low point in their career, it is very likely that the Chili Peppers would have split up had Dave not stepped in at the right moment. The reputation of ''One Hot Minute'' also is better appreciated and less blamed due to the fact it was considered a ToughActToFollow with ''Blood Sugar Sex Magik'' and '''''especially''''' when ''Californication'' dropped when the band reunited with John.

* AscendedFanon: The band called a rarities album "I'm Beside You" after seeing it in a forum thread of fan suggestions.

* TrailerDelay: "Bunker Hill" was played live in 1998 (having been an early Californication-era song they got tired of) but not released till 2003, as a b-side to "Fortune Faded". "Fortune Faded" was also subject to this, having been played live in 2001 (when it was a candidate for By The Way) and not completed till 2003's Greatest Hits.
* TroubledProduction: There are numerous examples across their career.
** ''The Uplift Mofo Party Plan'': The group started work on it in early 1986, though had difficulty coming up with songs, primarily because of Anthony and Hillel's heroin addictions. In addition, drummer Cliff Martinez was no longer enjoying the music, spending more time drum programming than jamming (which led to his soundtrack work later on). A few tracks were demoed and one song was released at the time, "Set It Straight", though only as part of the movie Tough Guys and not included on the soundtrack. Martinez left and Jack Irons returned (as "What Is This" had just been dropped from their label), resulting in the reunion of the original lineup. This improved spirits somewhat, but only a short time later, Anthony was kicked out of the band for his heroin use causing him to regularly miss shows and recording sessions. He was briefly replaced by Ron Young, who the group did not have the same chemistry with. The group nearly split, though fortunately Anthony returned having spent a few weeks in rehab in his native Michigan, though he didn't stay clean for long. Feeling inspired from this rehab period, Anthony wrote "Fight Like A Brave" which was quickly recognised as a key track and single. The group started to demo and record the album proper with producer Michael Beinhorn who heightened tensions due to his insistence on certain production sounds and demand for repeated takes (his voice can be heard on some of the demos from this period). The label nearly refused to release one of the key tracks, "Party On Your Pussy", unless the group changed the name (which they did to "Special Secret Song Inside"). When the album and single "Fight Like A Brave" were released, it met with good reception and a European tour, though the label refused to release the album's intended second single "Behind The Sun" (which eventually was released in 1993), instead coming up with "The Abbey Road EP", a short compilation of older material. After all the effort making the album and touring it, Hillel Slovak died of a heroin overdose and Jack Irons left the group in response. Fortunately, they continued with a new lineup.

** For starters, what if Hillel Slovak and Jack Irons had stayed with the band instead of going to "What is This?"
** How different would the first two albums have been if the original line up had played on them both? What if the band had kept one of their many other guitarists/drummers instead of firing them? It's important to note that Jack Sherman actually brought some mature songwriting to the band that he rarely gets credit for. Hillel and Jack considered the band something of a joke at the time due to the fact most of their songs were funk rap with comedic lyrics. Flea, Jack and the producer Andy Gill came up with the most emotional song of RHCP's early career, the instrumental track "Grand Pappy Du Plenty" at that point.

** Anthony has also complained about "Knock Me Down" and refuses to do it live, complains about the ''One Hot Minute'' period despite fan desire to hear the tracks, and basically regrets his personality in the 80s even though he was really cool. This has started to change. As of 2016 the band have been incorporating more older songs and songs from One Hot Minute into their setlists.

** "The Uplift Mofo Party Plan": The group started work on it in early 1986, though had difficulty coming up with songs, primarily because of Anthony and Hillel's heroin addictions. In addition, drummer Cliff Martinez was no longer enjoying the music, spending more time drum programming than jamming (which led to his soundtrack work later on). A few tracks were demoed and one song was released at the time, "Set It Straight", though only as part of the movie Tough Guys and not included on the soundtrack. Martinez left and Jack Irons returned (as "What Is This" had just been dropped from their label), resulting in the reunion of the original lineup. This improved spirits somewhat, but only a short time later, Anthony was kicked out of the band for his heroin use causing him to regularly miss shows and recording sessions. He was briefly replaced by Ron Young, who the group did not have the same chemistry with. The group nearly split, though fortunately Anthony returned having spent a few weeks in rehab in his native Michigan, though he didn't stay clean for long. Feeling inspired from this rehab period, Anthony wrote "Fight Like A Brave" which was quickly recognised as a key track and single. The group started to demo and record the album proper with producer Michael Beinhorn who heightened tensions due to his insistence on certain production sounds and demand for repeated takes (his voice can be heard on some of the demos from this period). The label nearly refused to release one of the key tracks, "Party On Your Pussy", unless the group changed the name (which they did to "Special Secret Song Inside"). When the album and single "Fight Like A Brave" were released, it met with good reception and a European tour, though the label refused to release the album's intended second single "Behind The Sun" (which eventually was released in 1993), instead coming up with "The Abbey Road EP", a short compilation of older material. After all the effort making the album and touring it, Hillel Slovak died of a heroin overdose and Jack Irons left the group in response. Fortunately, they continued with a new lineup.

** Fans have began to warm up to "One Hot Minute", realising that the album does contain many genuinely good songs and recognize the fact that not only did Navarro help the band mature and develop their sound to the point that it's easy to spot his influence on later albums, but that there is the very real possibility that the Chili Peppers wouldn't exist today without him. The One Hot Minute era was a very stressful time for everyone involved and the band considers it a low point in their career, it is very likely that the Chili Peppers would have split up had Dave not stepped in at the right moment. The reputation of ''One Hot Minute'' also is better appreciated and less blamed due to the fact it was considered a ToughActToFollow with ''Blood Sugar Sex Magik'' and '''''especially''''' when ''Californication'' dropped when the band reunited with John.

** Fans have began to warm up to "One Hot Minute", realising that the album does contain many genuinely good songs and recognize the fact that not only did Navarro help the band mature and develop their sound to the point that it's easy to spot his influece on later albums, but that there is the very real possibility that the Chili Peppers wouldn't exist today without him. The One Hot Minute era was a very stressful time for everyone involved and the band considers it a low point in their career, it is very likely that the Chili Peppers would have split up had Dave not stepped in at the right moment. The reputation of ''One Hot Minute'' also is better appreciated and less blamed due to the fact it was considered a ToughActToFollow with ''Blood Sugar Sex Magik'' and '''''especially''''' when ''Californication'' dropped when the band reunited with John.

** The band also vowed NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals again after seeing [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys the chimpanzee for their "Soul To Squeeze" video]] get abused by it's trainer during the video's production.

* TrailerDelay: "Bunker Hill" was played live in 1998 (having been an early Californication-era song they got tired of) but not released till 2003, as a b-side to "Fortune Faded". "Fortune Faded" was also subject to this, having been played live in 2001 (when it was a candidate for By The Way)and not completed till 2003's Greatest Hits.

* CutSong: The self-titled was supposed to feature a song Andy Gill was keen on, "Human Satellite", though the group did not like the results so it wasn't included. It has never been released.

** The reason he ended up leaving the band was that his heroin addiction was affecting his will to perform live. The whole "selling out" thing was partly true, but was ultimately a more palatable story to tell the media. Another part that the media rarely hears is that Anthony was bullying him, which made him feel too much like being in the band was a job. This is part of the reason why John was given so much creative control in the Californication period onwards - Anthony felt guilty about the way he'd acted.

** Flea had some acting gigs, such as Needles in the ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' sequels and one of the Nihilists in ''Film/TheBigLebowski''.
** Flea and then-guitarist Dave Navarro were in Music/AlanisMorissette's "You Oughta Know".

** Flea voiced Donnie Thornberry on ''WesternAnimation/TheWildThornberrys''.

* CreatorBacklash: Anthony doesn't like "The Greeting Song" very much - it only exists because Rick Rubin told him to write a song about girls and cars.
** Anthony has also complained about "Knock Me Down" and refuses to do it live, complains about the ''One Hot Minute'' period despite fan desire to hear the tracks, and basically regrets his personality in the 80s even though he was really cool.
*** This has started to change. As of 2016 the band have been incorperating more older songs and songs from One Hot Minute into their setlists.

** "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" was to include "Soul To Squeeze" and "Sikamikanico" though they were dropped due to the length of the album and their similarity to other songs (specially, Soul was considered similar to Under The Bridge). They got released as B-Sides and on the Coneheads and Wayne's World soundtracks respectively, with Soul To Squeeze released as a single from the former and later appearing on Greatest Hits.

** Before they worked on ''Stadium Arcadium'', the band recorded sixteen songs for a follow-up to ''By the Way'' and planned on releasing it for a 2003-04 release but Frusciante vetoed it, feeling that the style he was playing had changed and evolved as had his musical influences, so it was scrapped, resulting in "Fortune Faded" and "Save the Population" to be included in their GreatestHits album and "Bicycle Song" and "Runaway" to be included in the iTunes release of ''By the Way'' instead.

* TheOtherDarrin: Four drummers and eight guitarists have been official members of the band. While every drummer recorded with the band at least once (Cliff Martinez played on the first two albums, Jack Irons on their 1983 demo and on their third album, and [[Music/DeadKennedys D.H. Peligro]] recorded a song called "Blues For Meister". Additionally, he received writing credits on several Blood Sugar Sex Magick songs), some of the guitarists weren't so lucky. Jack Irons has averted this by becoming famous with Music/PearlJam.

** Before they worked on ''Stadium Arcadium'', the band recorded sixteen songs for a follow-up to ''By the Way'' and planned on releasing it for a 2003-04 release but Frusciante vetoed it, feeling that the style he was playing had changed and evolved as had his musical influences, so it was scrapped , resulting in "Fortune Faded" and "Save the Population" to be included in their GreatestHits album and "Bicycle Song" and "Runaway" to be included in the iTunes release of ''By the Way''.