History Trivia / Predator

16th Aug '17 1:40:23 PM Folamh3
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* UncreditedRole: Creator/ShaneBlack was an uncredited script doctor on the screenplay.
11th Aug '17 8:50:01 PM jeffreyloonychen
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* IronyAsSheIsCast: Sonny Landham plays a member of a military platoon stalked by a hunter, while six years earlier he had reversely played a hunter part of a posse stalking a military platoon in ''Film/SouthernComfort'', only to suffer a GroinAttack at the climax.
10th Apr '17 4:42:45 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* TroubledProduction: So much that the Kevin Peter Hall said that "it wasn't a movie, it was a survival story for all of us.". The cast and crew were constantly harassed by the local wildlife, including leeches and snakes. Heat and humidity (as well as extremely cold nights) took a toll as well. Every member of the cast and crew but Arnold Schwarzenegger and director John [=McTiernan=] caught Montezuma's Revenge due to unclean hotel water. The original Predator suit looked ridiculous, was virtually impossible to move in, and its original actor, Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme, left the production after only two days, forcing the producers to scramble for a new suit design and Predator actor. And, as noted on the main page, Sonny Landham required a bodyguard follow him at all times...to protect the rest of the cast from ''[[HairTriggerTemper him]]''.

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* TroubledProduction: So much TroubledProduction:
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1GfUoB0kog According to FX supervisor Steve Johnson]], pre-production of the film began with director Creator/JohnMcTiernan dramatically throwing down concept art for the creature at a meeting with FOX executives -- which looked awful. The original idea called for a creature that had backwards-jointed reptile legs, along with an extended head and arms. The crew were also planning to film the project in the muddy slopes of Mexico. Despite Johnson and other members of the crew telling them that it would be physically impossible to shoot with such a creature, [=McTiernan=] went ahead anyway.
** Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme (then recently-emigrated from Belgium) was brought in without giving him any sufficient explanation of what he was supposed to be doing. Van Damme was furious due to believing
that the Kevin Peter Hall said temp effects suit (which was used so the "cloaking" effect could be applied in post-production) was the ''actual'' suit for the final product. Additionally, the suit was unwieldy (causing him to bump into trees because he couldn't see), and he was further angered to learn that "it wasn't a movie, it he wouldn't be able to do any of his martial arts moves, which he was a survival story for all of us.". The famous for.
** Filming got underway in Mexico, and it quickly became apparent to the
cast and crew were constantly harassed by that the local wildlife, including leeches conditions weren't favorable. While the suit was still being constructed, the crew had to deal with sweltering heat and snakes. Heat and humidity (as well as extremely cold nights) took a toll as well. rough terrain. Every member of the cast and crew but Arnold Schwarzenegger Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger ([[MemeticBadass of]] [[NighInvulnerable course]]) and director John [=McTiernan=] caught got bouts of Montezuma's Revenge due to unclean hotel water. The original Predator water.
** Things got worse when the finished (original)
suit looked ridiculous, actually reached the production set and saw the result. Faced with Van Damme complaining relentlessly and the crew treating the suit as a joke, [=McTiernan=] shot some test footage and sent it back to FOX hoping that they would see reason. The studio did and shut down production. Lawrence Gordon (one of the producers) was virtually impossible forced to move in, secure additional funding so that Creator/StanWinston and its original actor, Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme, his team could come in and redesign the suit. Van Damme either left the production after only two days, forcing because of fears for his own safety (supposedly due to a stunt he was supposed to do, but which was helmed by another stuntman who broke his own leg the producers first time attempting it) or was fired by the studio.
** Kevin Peter Hall was brought on
to scramble for a new suit design play the title character, and Predator actor. And, as noted on production continued in earnest, though not without running into more problems during the main page, Sonny Landham required a bodyguard follow him at all times...to protect the rest filming of the cast from ''[[HairTriggerTemper him]]''. final confrontation. Schwarzenegger found himself being caked in cold mud for hours at a time, while Hall also found it difficult to move around in the suit.



** Fans of Creator/AlanSilvestri could have had a ''legal'' soundtrack release (there was a bootleg) long before there actually was one - Fox had intended to release an album paired with Michael Kamen's work for the first ''Film/DieHard'' in 1993 as part of Fox Records' series of releases. Unfortunately it and several other planned albums never surfaced (nor did a ''Predator'' soundtrack arrive until 2003, courtesy of Creator/VareseSarabande).

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** Fans of Creator/AlanSilvestri could have had a ''legal'' soundtrack release (there was a bootleg) long before there actually was one - Fox had intended to release an album paired with Michael Kamen's Music/MichaelKamen's work for the first ''Film/DieHard'' in 1993 as part of Fox Records' series of releases. Unfortunately it and several other planned albums never surfaced (nor did a ''Predator'' soundtrack arrive until 2003, courtesy of Creator/VareseSarabande).
25th Mar '17 9:24:53 PM BaronVonFistcrunch
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* AllStarCast: It reads like an '80s action fan's wet dream. Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/CarlWeathers, Wrestling/JesseVentura...

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* AllStarCast: It reads like an '80s action fan's wet dream. Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/CarlWeathers, Carl Weathers, Wrestling/JesseVentura...
25th Mar '17 9:24:13 PM BaronVonFistcrunch
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* AllStarCast: It reads like an '80s action fan's wet dream.
* TheCameo: The pilot of the helicopter in the last scene is Kevin Peter Hall - the Predator himself!

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* AllStarCast: It reads like an '80s action fan's wet dream.
* TheCameo: The pilot of the helicopter in the last scene is Kevin Peter Hall - the Predator himself!
dream. Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/CarlWeathers, Wrestling/JesseVentura...



* TheOtherMarty: The Predator was originally played by Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme, but difficulties with the original costume (Van Damme claimed it was too hot to move in at all) and the decision that the Predator needed to be more physically imposing to be seen as a serious threat to [[RatedMForManly all the bodybuilders playing the humans]] lead to him getting recast (along with the Predator costume being redesigned). Some of the scenes with the [[VisibleInvisibility invisibility distortion]] effect were shot with JCVD.
* ThrowItIn: Courtesy of Creator/JamesCameron himself! When the production crew's first attempt at the creature effect failed spectacularly, they decided to hire Creator/StanWinston for the film. The two were flying to Japan and while Winston was doing preliminary design sketches, Cameron saw what he was doing and said "You know, I always wanted to see something with mandibles." Winston then included them in his designs.
* TroubledProduction: So much that the Kevin Peter Hall said that "it wasn't a movie, it was a survival story for all of us."
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: As mentioned above in TheOtherMarty, the Predator was originally envisioned as a giant insect like creature with a rat like head, golden eyes and big claws, but the overall look of the original design was felt to be both far from scary and not really practical to film in the jungle, so it was completely redesigned by Stan Winston and recast (with Kevin Peter Hall replacing Jean Claude Van Damme).

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* TheOtherMarty: The Predator was originally played by Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme, but difficulties with the original costume (Van Damme claimed it was too hot to move in at all) and the decision that the Predator needed to be more physically imposing to be seen as a serious threat to [[RatedMForManly all the bodybuilders playing the humans]] lead to him getting recast (along with the Predator costume being redesigned). Some of the scenes with the [[VisibleInvisibility invisibility distortion]] VisibleInvisibility effect were shot with JCVD.
* ThrowItIn: ThrowItIn:
** Dutch's "Stick Around!" BondOneLiner was improvised by Schwarzenegger.
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Courtesy of Creator/JamesCameron himself! When the production crew's first attempt at the creature effect failed spectacularly, they decided to hire Creator/StanWinston for the film. The two were flying to Japan and while Winston was doing preliminary design sketches, Cameron saw what he was doing and said "You know, I always wanted to see something with mandibles." Winston then included them in his designs.
* TroubledProduction: So much that the Kevin Peter Hall said that "it wasn't a movie, it was a survival story for all of us."
". The cast and crew were constantly harassed by the local wildlife, including leeches and snakes. Heat and humidity (as well as extremely cold nights) took a toll as well. Every member of the cast and crew but Arnold Schwarzenegger and director John [=McTiernan=] caught Montezuma's Revenge due to unclean hotel water. The original Predator suit looked ridiculous, was virtually impossible to move in, and its original actor, Creator/JeanClaudeVanDamme, left the production after only two days, forcing the producers to scramble for a new suit design and Predator actor. And, as noted on the main page, Sonny Landham required a bodyguard follow him at all times...to protect the rest of the cast from ''[[HairTriggerTemper him]]''.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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As mentioned above in TheOtherMarty, the Predator was originally envisioned as a giant insect like creature with a rat like head, golden eyes and big claws, but the overall look of the original design was felt to be both far from scary and not really practical to film in the jungle, so it was completely redesigned by Stan Winston and recast (with Kevin Peter Hall replacing Jean Claude Van Damme).



*** Fans of Creator/AlanSilvestri could have had a ''legal'' soundtrack release (there was a bootleg) long before there actually was one - Fox had intended to release an album paired with Michael Kamen's work for the first ''Film/DieHard'' in 1993 as part of Fox Records' series of releases. Unfortunately it and several other planned albums never surfaced (nor did a ''Predator'' soundtrack arrive until 2003, courtesy of Creator/VareseSarabande).
* Three members of the cast ran for governor of different U.S. states, with two taking office. This led to the amusing OverlyNarrowSuperlative that Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger can be called "the best gubernatorial candidate in the cast of a 1987 sci-fi action movie involving an alien". Some may disagree on whether he's truly better than Wrestling/JesseVentura, but the funny thing is, no matter which of them you prefer, neither of them is the worst. That distinction goes to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Landham Sonny Landham]].

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*** ** Fans of Creator/AlanSilvestri could have had a ''legal'' soundtrack release (there was a bootleg) long before there actually was one - Fox had intended to release an album paired with Michael Kamen's work for the first ''Film/DieHard'' in 1993 as part of Fox Records' series of releases. Unfortunately it and several other planned albums never surfaced (nor did a ''Predator'' soundtrack arrive until 2003, courtesy of Creator/VareseSarabande).
* Three members of the cast ran for governor of different U.S. states, with two taking office. This led to the amusing OverlyNarrowSuperlative that Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger can be called "the best gubernatorial candidate in the cast of a 1987 sci-fi action movie involving an alien". Some may disagree on whether he's truly better than Wrestling/JesseVentura, but the funny thing is, no matter which of them you prefer, neither of them is the worst. That distinction goes to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Landham Sonny Landham]].
26th Nov '16 2:35:20 PM fruitstripegum
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: As mentioned above in TheOtherMarty, the Predator was originally envisioned as a giant insect like creature with a rat like head, golden eyes and big claws, but the overall look of the original design was felt to be both far from scary and not really practical to film in the jungle, so it was completely redesigned and recast (with Kevin Peter Hall replacing Jean Claude Van Damme).

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: As mentioned above in TheOtherMarty, the Predator was originally envisioned as a giant insect like creature with a rat like head, golden eyes and big claws, but the overall look of the original design was felt to be both far from scary and not really practical to film in the jungle, so it was completely redesigned by Stan Winston and recast (with Kevin Peter Hall replacing Jean Claude Van Damme). Damme).
15th Apr '16 3:28:29 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Creator/PeterCullen was the voice of the Predator in the first movie, including his infamous haunting laugh. [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Yes]], ''[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} that]]'' [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Peter Cullen]].
15th Apr '16 2:16:43 PM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura were both elected and served as state governors; Sonny Landham also ran for governor but lost.
** And for non-politicians, [[Film/{{Rocky}} Apollo Creed]] and the black henchman from ''Film/{{Commando}}''.
** You might not recognize Hawkins, but he is the guy who wrote ''Film/LethalWeapon'' and later wrote & directed ''Film/KissKissBangBang'' and ''Film/IronMan3''. In fact the studio requested that he be in it in order to have an experienced action writer / producer on the ground to make sure director knew what he was doing.
21st Mar '16 8:44:37 AM timotaka
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The studio sent a memo that there should be more gunshots in the film. This led to McTiernan adding the scene where the team panics and pumps hundreds of rounds into empty jungle.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The studio sent a memo that there should be more gunshots in the film. This led to McTiernan [=McTiernan=] adding the scene where the team panics and pumps hundreds of rounds into empty jungle.
21st Mar '16 8:44:00 AM timotaka
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The studio sent a memo that there should be more gunshots in the film. This led to McTiernan adding the scene where the team panics and pumps hundreds of rounds into empty jungle.
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