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reading more, this is what happened after that feedback!
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* CreatorBacklash: [[https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/papermario/0/1/ Interviews]] with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by a prototype of the game when they tried it.
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* CreatorBacklash: [[https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/papermario/0/1/ Interviews]] with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by a prototype of the game when they tried it.it, leading the team to work on the [[https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/papermario/0/4/ overworld puzzles]] in the final version.
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It doesn't really say whether it was this games bowser or not, and there's speculation he meant bowsers from previous games. the wording is too vague to tell either way. https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/papermario/0/2/ also clarifying that what bored them was a prototype made around 2011, not the finished game.
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** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.
** Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it.
** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.
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** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.it.
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** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.
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* CreatorBacklash: Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it.
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** Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they triedit.it.
** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.
** Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried
** According to Tanabe, Miyamoto was very displeased with how Bowser was portrayed in this game.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two successors, ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two three successors, ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'', ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'', and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''. ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheOrigamiKing''.
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Trivia can't be Downplayed.
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed, as it's not so much "hate" as it is indifference. Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it.
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed, as it's not so much "hate" as it is indifference. Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it.
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** Early screenshots show [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:PM3DS3.png a maze of playing cards]] and [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Papermario3dsmole.png a King Monty Mole boss]].
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** Early screenshots show [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:PM3DS3.png a maze of playing cards]] and [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Papermario3dsmole.png a King Monty Mole boss]].boss.]] [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Sticker_Star_Beta_Screenshot.png A screenshot found in the game files]] shows a battle with a snake enemy with a Koopa-like head.
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* ThatOneLevel: World 5-3: Long Fall Falls. While the previous rafting level (W5-2: Jungle Rapids) was pretty slow in terms of the delayed rafting, this level is '''worse'''. The main problem isn't just how boring and badly designed the level is, it also lies on avoid the fast-moving Cheep Chomp. If it eats you, [[NonStandardGameOver you're done for]]. Worst of all, this level contains two exits, so if you miss out on the secret exit which is how you access W4-4: Chomp Ruins - '''you have to play the level again''', and the Cheep-Chomp's speed increases each time this level is played. It also applies to those who want to complete their Sticker Museum, as the Secret Exit contains the only Megaflash Infijump in the game, while the main exit contains the only Big Shiny Infijump in the game, as well as the Secret Door containing the Luxurious Bed thing.
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* ThatOneLevel: World 5-3: Long Fall Falls. While the previous rafting level (W5-2: Jungle Rapids) was pretty slow in terms of the rafting, this level is '''worse'''. The main problem isn't just how boring the level is, it also lies on avoid the fast-moving Cheep Chomp. If it eats you, [[NonStandardGameOver you're done for]]. Worst of all - you have to play the level twice to obtain everything, because the exit to W5-4: Chomp Ruins, is a secret exit, and the Cheep Chomp's speed will increase - so getting eaten becomes more '''easier''' if you're bad at timing.
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* ThatOneLevel: World 5-3: Long Fall Falls. While the previous rafting level (W5-2: Jungle Rapids) was pretty slow in terms of the delayed rafting, this level is '''worse'''. The main problem isn't just how boring and badly designed the level is, it also lies on avoid the fast-moving Cheep Chomp. If it eats you, [[NonStandardGameOver you're done for]]. Worst of all - all, this level contains two exits, so if you miss out on the secret exit which is how you access W4-4: Chomp Ruins - '''you have to play the level twice to obtain everything, because the exit to W5-4: Chomp Ruins, is a secret exit, again''', and the Cheep Chomp's Cheep-Chomp's speed will increase - so getting eaten becomes more '''easier''' if you're bad at timing.increases each time this level is played. It also applies to those who want to complete their Sticker Museum, as the Secret Exit contains the only Megaflash Infijump in the game, while the main exit contains the only Big Shiny Infijump in the game, as well as the Secret Door containing the Luxurious Bed thing.
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* ThatOneLevel: World 5-3: Long Fall Falls. While the previous rafting level (W5-2: Jungle Rapids) was pretty slow in terms of the rafting, this level is '''worse'''. The main problem isn't just how boring the level is, it also lies on avoid the fast-moving Cheep Chomp. If it eats you, [[NonStandardGameOver you're done for]]. Worst of all - you have to play the level twice to obtain everything, because the exit to W5-4: Chomp Ruins, is a secret exit, and the Cheep Chomp's speed will increase - so getting eaten becomes more '''easier''' if you're bad at timing.
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Old Shame is in-universe now; also toning down complaining
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed, as its not so much "hate" as it is indifference. Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it. How it got released in spite of something like that is cause for speculation.
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed, as its it's not so much "hate" as it is indifference. Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it. How it got released in spite of something like that is cause for speculation.
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* OldShame: Sticker Star has the dubious honor of being considered the worst in its series by many fans, both of Paper Mario and of Mario RPGs, period; citing - among many things - lack of story, lack of personality, confusing progression, lack of meaningful combat, and very scripted boss battles. In spite of this, Nintendo has stubbornly stuck to its precedent for any Paper Mario-related projects going forward (''Color Splash'', ''Paper Jam'', and ''Origami King''). Not helping its case were the press releases citing Miyamoto's ExectutiveMeddling / Corporate Mandates. Nintendo and the developers of Paper Mario backpedaled slightly with Origami King, which utilized new characters, but - for the majority of its content - still sticks to this mandate. Sticker Star and various aspects of it in particular have not been mentioned or referenced all too much in recent years , seemingly as a result of the infamous legacy its esablished for itself.
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* CreatorBacklash: Downplayed, as its not so much "hate" as it is indifference. Interviews with the creators have stated that both Miyamoto and Tanabe were both actually ''bored'' by this game when they tried it. How it got released in spite of something like that is cause for speculation.
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* OldShame: Sticker Star has the dubious honor of being considered the worst in its series by many fans, both of Paper Mario and of Mario RPGs, period; citing - among many things - lack of story, lack of personality, confusing progression, lack of meaningful combat, and very scripted boss battles. In spite of this, Nintendo has stubbornly stuck to its precedent for any Paper Mario-related projects going forward (''Color Splash'', ''Paper Jam'', and ''Origami King''). Not helping its case were the press releases citing Miyamoto's ExectutiveMeddling / Corporate Mandates. Nintendo and the developers of Paper Mario backpedaled slightly with Origami King, which utilized new characters, but - for the majority of its content - still sticks to this mandate. Sticker Star and various aspects of it in particular have not been mentioned or referenced all too much in recent years , seemingly as a result of the infamous legacy its esablished for itself.
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: Following ''Sticker Star'''s release, all material involving the ''Paper Mario'' series, such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU'' and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'', primarily if not solely used things from ''Sticker Star'' as it's basis, with the other games in the franchise barely represented.
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* AdoredByTheNetwork: Following ''Sticker Star'''s release, all material involving the ''Paper Mario'' series, such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU'' and ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'', primarily if not solely used things from ''Sticker Star'' as it's its basis, with the other games in the franchise barely represented.
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* ExiledFromContinuity: The "Mario world only" mandate engaged with this game prevented the use of ''Paper Mario'' exclusive characters, barring cameos. This also meant the many races from ''Videogame/YoshisIsland'' that never appeared in the main ''Mario'' titles were barred from appearing.
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* ExiledFromContinuity: The "Mario world only" mandate engaged with this game prevented the use of ''Paper Mario'' exclusive characters, barring cameos. This also meant that with the exception of Spear Guy, the many races from ''Videogame/YoshisIsland'' that never appeared in the main ''Mario'' titles were barred from appearing.
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** After years of speculation as to the exact nature and extent of the above meddling, a [[https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/paper-mario-origami-king/ 2020 interview]] about twice-removed sequel ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheOrigamiKing'' with series producer Kensuke Tanabe revealed that these weren't just suggestions on Miyamoto's part: these were indeed mandates, enforced since ''Sticker Star.''
-->'''Tanabe:''' Since ''Paper Mario: Sticker Star'', it’s no longer possible to modify Mario characters or to create original characters that touch on the Mario universe.
-->'''Tanabe:''' Since ''Paper Mario: Sticker Star'', it’s no longer possible to modify Mario characters or to create original characters that touch on the Mario universe.
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** At one point in time, as early trailers and screenshots showed, partners were set to make a prominent appearance, including new partners that had never been seen in the series, such as a Toad and a Chain Chomp, and combat was going to be more like previous installments. However, partners were removed and combat was overhauled to better accommodate the sticker mechanics.
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** At one point in time, as early trailers and screenshots showed, partners were set to make a prominent appearance, including new partners that had never been seen in the series, such as a Toad and a Chain Chomp, and combat was going to be more like previous installments. However, partners were removed and combat was overhauled to better accommodate both the sticker mechanics.mechanics and the story/character mandates.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvI5gUPlbCw Several unused rooms]] exist in the game, including early versions of existing areas, an unused part of Decalburg, and an unused forest area with a warp pipe.
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* ExiledFromContinuity: The "Mario world only" mandate engaged with this game prevented the use of ''Paper Mario'' exclusive characters, barring cameos.
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* ExiledFromContinuity: The "Mario world only" mandate engaged with this game prevented the use of ''Paper Mario'' exclusive characters, barring cameos. This also meant the many races from ''Videogame/YoshisIsland'' that never appeared in the main ''Mario'' titles were barred from appearing.
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** According to [[http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/papermario/0/1 Iwata Asks]], the original version of the game was closer to ''Paper Mario'' and ''The Thousand Year Door'', but Miyamoto played it and [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks "said it was just a port of the GC version"]] and virtually forced the development team to change it.
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** According to [[http://iwataasks.[[https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/3ds/papermario/0/1 Iwata Asks]], Asks,]] the original version of the game was closer to ''Paper Mario'' and ''The Thousand Year Door'', but Miyamoto played it and [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks "said it was just a port of the GC version"]] and virtually forced the development team to change it.
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** Unique mini-games were planned for [[spoiler:Bowser's Castle]], but [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193716 were cut]] due to time constraints during development.
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** Early screenshots show [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:PM3DS3.png a maze of playing cards]] and [[https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Papermario3dsmole.png a King Monty Mole boss]] which was likely replaced by Gooper Blooper.
** Unique mini-games were planned for [[spoiler:Bowser's Castle]], but[[http://www.[[https://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193716 were cut]] due to time constraints during development.
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** Unique mini-games were planned for [[spoiler:Bowser's Castle]], but [[http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=193716 were cut]] due to time constraints during development.
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deleting from this page for the same reason color spalsh's FK entry was deleted https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=83107&type=att#comment-83107
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to plow down most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the future of the series.
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to plow down most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the entire ''Paper Mario'' series.
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to plow down most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the entire ''Paper Mario'' future of the series.
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to tank most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the entire ''Paper Mario'' series.
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to tank plow down most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the entire ''Paper Mario'' series.
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* FranchiseKiller: The ''thoroughly'' vehement criticism this game endured over the unwanted changes it had made to the series was enough to tank most if not any interest in ''Paper Mario''. While ''Color Splash'' was deemed a ''very slightly'' SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, the stigma of this game still rung across the sub-series, resulting in the game being a bomb in sales and most likely tanking the entire ''Paper Mario'' series.
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This is not an appropriate place to put a wick to a personal project.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two successors ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''. In fact, the ''UsefulNotes/VillainArmy'' even wants them to make a sequel to ''Paper Jam'' .[[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1087405916402708489]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1095430408672555009]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1098682532684591107]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1127625550011322368]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1129207349011537922]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1149068836504834048]]
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two successors ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''. In fact, the ''UsefulNotes/VillainArmy'' even wants them to make a sequel to ''Paper Jam'' .[[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1087405916402708489]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1095430408672555009]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1098682532684591107]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1127625550011322368]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1129207349011537922]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1149068836504834048]]
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**Whomps were going to be normal enemies but got degraded to one appearance in the final fight with Bowser. Fish Bones and Lakitus were also going to be fought, but got degraded to level hazards. Other enemies like the Crowber, Monty Mole, Inky Piranha Plant, Ptooie, Fishin' Lakitu, Deep Cheep, Bullet Bill, Bill Blaster, & Banzai Bill were going to be fought but were cut from the game. Even Sticker Star original enemies like Shiny Dry Bones & Shiny Spiny were cut from the game. [[https://tcrf.net/Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star#Enemies_2]]
** Thankfully, Shiny Dry Bones and Shiny Spiny reappeared in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' with the Ptooie reappearing in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''.
** Thankfully, Shiny Dry Bones and Shiny Spiny reappeared in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' with the Ptooie reappearing in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two successors ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''.
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Despite the fan backlash, Nintendo themselves have praised the game on occasion, stating that it should be the template for the ''Paper Mario'' series going forward. Indeed, the game's influence can be seen in its two successors ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash''. In fact, the ''UsefulNotes/VillainArmy'' even wants them to make a sequel to ''Paper Jam'' .[[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1087405916402708489]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1095430408672555009]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1098682532684591107]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1127625550011322368]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1129207349011537922]] [[https://twitter.com/wilyg9/status/1149068836504834048]]
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** The game doesn't feature any original characters besides Kersti because Miyamoto asked the team to create a game using only characters already made from the Mario world (or at least [[Main/ExactWords "As much as possible"]]). He also requested that the game shouldn't feature a story, hence why this game is lighter on plot.
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** The game doesn't feature any original characters besides Kersti because Miyamoto asked the team to create a game using only characters already made from the Mario world.world (or at least [[Main/ExactWords "As much as possible"]]). He also requested that the game shouldn't feature a story, hence why this game is lighter on plot.