History Trivia / NeverSayNeverAgain

3rd Dec '16 8:09:40 PM jameygamer
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** Kevin McClory sought to make yet another independent film remake of ''Thunderball'' with Timothy Dalton as the lead, but these plans were eventually scrapped. As such, the rival Bond series McClory sought to produce never materialized, and his demands for the rights to ''Thunderball'' were again torpedoed in 2001 when his suit was rejected.

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** Kevin McClory [=McClory=] sought to make yet another independent film remake of ''Thunderball'' with Timothy Dalton as the lead, but these plans were eventually scrapped. As such, the rival Bond series McClory [=McClory=] sought to produce never materialized, and his demands for the rights to ''Thunderball'' were again torpedoed in 2001 when his suit was rejected.rejected. Any further ideas of a rival Bond movie died with [=McClory=] in 2006, and his family did not share the same desire to go forward with a rival Bond series as he did, selling the rights back to EON in 2013 and removing the remaining legal snags between the official Bond series and Spectre, which led to the organization as a whole returning in 2015.
3rd Dec '16 8:06:12 PM jameygamer
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* DuelingMovies: With ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'' starring Creator/RogerMoore. Neither movie particularly wowed critics, and made roughly the same amount of box office business. However in retrospect, ''Octopussy'' is usually considered the winner, with ''Never Say Never Again'' proving even more polarizing among fans as the "unofficial" Bond film.

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* DuelingMovies: With ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'' starring Creator/RogerMoore. Neither movie particularly wowed critics, and made roughly the same amount of box office business. However in retrospect, ''Octopussy'' is usually considered the winner, with ''Never Say Never Again'' proving even more polarizing among fans as the "unofficial" Bond film. It also dueled ''Film/AViewToAKill'' in the "remake" arena (that film '''is''' an official Bond film, but was accused of being a "microchip" copy of ''Goldfinger'').
27th Nov '16 8:21:04 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** After Sony acquired the ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'' rights through studio acquisitions, Sony hoped to parlay them into its own Bond franchise to compete with MGM's, with Creator/RolandEmmerich and Dean Devlin at the helm. However, legal action by MGM blocked this attempt. Sony later outright acquired MGM, finally reuniting ''Never Say Never Again'' with the rest of the Bond canon under a single studio roof. The Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin effort actually got as far as a script draft, titled ''Warhead 2000'' and still lurking around the internet. No potential Bond ever reached official consideration though.[[note]]Some have mentioned rumours at the time that Liam Neeson was considered - meaning we could have had two dueling Irish Bonds.[[/note]]

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** After Sony acquired the ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'' rights through studio acquisitions, Sony hoped to parlay them into its own Bond franchise to compete with MGM's, with Creator/RolandEmmerich and Dean Devlin at the helm. However, legal action by MGM blocked this attempt. Sony later outright acquired MGM, finally reuniting ''Never Say Never Again'' with the rest of the Bond canon under a single studio roof. The Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin effort actually got as far as a script draft, titled ''Warhead 2000'' and still lurking around the internet. No potential Bond ever reached official consideration though.[[note]]Some have mentioned rumours at the time that Liam Neeson was considered - meaning we could have had two dueling Irish Bonds.[[/note]][[/note]]
** Kevin McClory sought to make yet another independent film remake of ''Thunderball'' with Timothy Dalton as the lead, but these plans were eventually scrapped. As such, the rival Bond series McClory sought to produce never materialized, and his demands for the rights to ''Thunderball'' were again torpedoed in 2001 when his suit was rejected.
11th Nov '16 11:00:03 AM JamesAustin
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Bernie Casey would later be known for appearing in the ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' movies.

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Bernie Casey would later be known for appearing in the ''Film/RevengeOfTheNerds'' movies.movies.
** Nigel Small-Fawcett is played by Creator/RowanAtkinson, years before ''Series/MrBean''.
9th Oct '16 4:37:00 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* DuelingMovies: With ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'' starring Creator/RogerMoore. Neither movie particularly wowed critics, and made roughly the same amount of box office business.

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* DuelingMovies: With ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'' starring Creator/RogerMoore. Neither movie particularly wowed critics, and made roughly the same amount of box office business. However in retrospect, ''Octopussy'' is usually considered the winner, with ''Never Say Never Again'' proving even more polarizing among fans as the "unofficial" Bond film.
30th Jul '16 4:16:15 PM JamesAustin
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* ChannelHop: It was originally released by WarnerBros, but official Bond distributor MGM purchased the rights to the film in 1997 (as they won the rights to ''Film/CasinoRoyale1967'' along with the book adaptation ones in a lawsuit). Eventually, they obtained all remaining rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE, but only after Kevin [=McClory=] died and his sons took over.
** Even so, it appears as though MGM doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that they own the rights to this film. All video copies post-1997 doesn't feature the studio's logo on the packaging, and this film now opens with the logo for Creator/OrionPictures, which MGM owns, unlike the other Bond films which open with either a Creator/UnitedArtists logo or Leo the Lion.
* CreatorKiller: While he never went broke (he was filthy rich), Kevin [=McClory=]'s obsession with this film, his highly bitter and well publicized legal and possible personal feud with Albert Broccoli and then his daughter after Cubby died, along with this film not impressing critics as much as hoped, led to him never being visible on high level Hollywood again.

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* ChannelHop: It was originally released by WarnerBros, but official Bond distributor MGM purchased the rights to the film in 1997 (as they won the rights to ''Film/CasinoRoyale1967'' along with the book adaptation ones in a lawsuit). Eventually, they obtained all remaining rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE, but only after Kevin [=McClory=] died and his sons took over.
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over. Even so, it appears as though MGM doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that they own the rights to this film. All video copies post-1997 doesn't feature the studio's logo on the packaging, and this film now opens with the logo for Creator/OrionPictures, which MGM owns, unlike the other Bond films which open with either a Creator/UnitedArtists logo or Leo the Lion.
* CreatorKiller: While he never went broke (he was filthy rich), Kevin [=McClory=]'s obsession with this film, his highly bitter and well publicized legal and possible personal feud with Albert Broccoli and then his daughter and stepson after Cubby died, along with this film not impressing critics as much as hoped, led to him never being visible on high level Hollywood again.



* ShoutOut: Clement and Lefrenais reuse the dialogue from the urine test scene from the first episode of the first series of [[Series/Porridge]]. This was Connery's suggestion, apparently. So Sean Connery is playing Bond playing Norman Stanley Fletcher.

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* ShoutOut: Clement and Lefrenais reuse the dialogue from the urine test scene from the first episode of the first series of [[Series/Porridge]].''Series/{{Porridge}}''. This was Connery's suggestion, apparently. So Sean Connery is playing Bond playing Norman Stanley Fletcher.



** After Sony acquired the ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'' rights through studio acquisitions, Sony hoped to parlay them into its own Bond franchise to compete with MGM's, with Creator/RolandEmmerich and Dean Devlin at the helm. However, legal action by MGM blocked this attempt. Sony later outright acquired MGM, finally reuniting ''Never Say Never Again'' with the rest of the Bond canon under a single studio roof. The Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin effort actually got as far as a script draft, titled ''Warhead 2000'' and still lurking around the internet. No potential Bond ever reached official consideration though.[[note]]Some have half-jokingly mentioned rumours at the time that Liam Neeson was considered - meaning we could have had two dueling Irish Bonds.[[/note]]

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** After Sony acquired the ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain'' rights through studio acquisitions, Sony hoped to parlay them into its own Bond franchise to compete with MGM's, with Creator/RolandEmmerich and Dean Devlin at the helm. However, legal action by MGM blocked this attempt. Sony later outright acquired MGM, finally reuniting ''Never Say Never Again'' with the rest of the Bond canon under a single studio roof. The Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin effort actually got as far as a script draft, titled ''Warhead 2000'' and still lurking around the internet. No potential Bond ever reached official consideration though.[[note]]Some have half-jokingly mentioned rumours at the time that Liam Neeson was considered - meaning we could have had two dueling Irish Bonds.[[/note]]
19th Apr '16 2:07:16 AM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy:
** Crossing into WTHCastingAgency: How could [=MI6=] ever think that Series/MrBean was a good choice to look after Bond? He's not; [[RuleOfFunny thats the whole point]]. In-universe, he's probably just the only guy they've got in that area. He even outright states he's not used to this sort of thing, the spying business.
** Creator/MaxVonSydow is Blofeld!
** [[Literature/TheDayOfTheJackal Edward Fox]] is M!
** Lippe (not ''Count'' Lippe), the GiantMook that attacks Bond at the Shrublands, was played by the late Pat Roach, a British wrestler/stunt man known for appearing in all of the Indiana Jones movies (most famously, he was the guy in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' who was cut up by the airplane propeller). And he was [[Series/AufWiedersehenPet Bomber]]. Weirdly, his scene was written mostly by Auf Pet writers Clement and Le Frenais.
9th Apr '16 5:48:49 PM ooh
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* ChannelHop: It was originally released by WarnerBros, but official Bond distributor MGM purchased the rights to own every Bond film (as they won the rights to ''Film/CasinoRoyale1967'' along with the book adaptation ones in a lawsuit). Eventually, they obtained all remaining rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE, but only after Kevin [=McClory=] died and his sons took over.

to:

* ChannelHop: It was originally released by WarnerBros, but official Bond distributor MGM purchased the rights to own every Bond the film in 1997 (as they won the rights to ''Film/CasinoRoyale1967'' along with the book adaptation ones in a lawsuit). Eventually, they obtained all remaining rights to Blofeld and SPECTRE, but only after Kevin [=McClory=] died and his sons took over.over.
** Even so, it appears as though MGM doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that they own the rights to this film. All video copies post-1997 doesn't feature the studio's logo on the packaging, and this film now opens with the logo for Creator/OrionPictures, which MGM owns, unlike the other Bond films which open with either a Creator/UnitedArtists logo or Leo the Lion.


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** Creator/RogerMoore was to appear in a cameo alongside Connery at the end, which could have been epic. The decision was scrapped most likely for the above reason.
18th Nov '15 9:45:06 AM Madeleymade
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* ShoutOut: Clement and Lefrenais reuse the dialogue from the urine test scene from the first episode of the first series of ''Series/Porridge''. This was Connery's suggestion, apparently. So Sean Connery is playing Bond playing Norman Stanley Fletcher.

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* ShoutOut: Clement and Lefrenais reuse the dialogue from the urine test scene from the first episode of the first series of ''Series/Porridge''.[[Series/Porridge]]. This was Connery's suggestion, apparently. So Sean Connery is playing Bond playing Norman Stanley Fletcher.
18th Nov '15 9:44:24 AM Madeleymade
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** Lippe (not ''Count'' Lippe), the GiantMook that attacks Bond at the Shrublands, was played by the late Pat Roach, a British wrestler/stunt man known for appearing in all of the Indiana Jones movies (most famously, he was the guy in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' who was cut up by the airplane propeller). And he was [[Series/AufWiedersehenPet Bomber]]. Weirdly, his scene was written mostly by Auf Pet writers Clement and Le Frenais, who even get Bond to use dialogue originally said by [[Series/Porridge Fletcher]].

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** Lippe (not ''Count'' Lippe), the GiantMook that attacks Bond at the Shrublands, was played by the late Pat Roach, a British wrestler/stunt man known for appearing in all of the Indiana Jones movies (most famously, he was the guy in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' who was cut up by the airplane propeller). And he was [[Series/AufWiedersehenPet Bomber]]. Weirdly, his scene was written mostly by Auf Pet writers Clement and Le Frenais, who even get Bond to use dialogue originally said by [[Series/Porridge Fletcher]].Frenais.


Added DiffLines:

* ShoutOut: Clement and Lefrenais reuse the dialogue from the urine test scene from the first episode of the first series of ''Series/Porridge''. This was Connery's suggestion, apparently. So Sean Connery is playing Bond playing Norman Stanley Fletcher.
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