History Trivia / Mash

19th Sep '17 12:42:49 PM JamesAustin
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** Also, the [[TheOtherDarrin two main actors]] who provided the voice of the PA announcer during the show's run each had an episode where they appeared onscreen, but as different characters. Call it You ''Sound'' Familiar.[[invoked]]

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** Also, the [[TheOtherDarrin two main actors]] who provided the voice of the PA announcer during the show's run each had an episode where they appeared onscreen, but as different characters. Call it You ''Sound'' Familiar.[[invoked]]



* [=McLean=] Stevenson (Col. Blake in the TV series) died February 15, 1996. Roger Bowen (Col. Blake in the movie) died the next day.
** What's more, both men died of the same cause (heart attack). The eeriness of the coincidence, and a desire to avoid confusion, led to Bowen's family "stalling" news of his death until the following week.

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* [=McLean=] Stevenson (Col. Blake in the TV series) died February 15, 1996. Roger Bowen (Col. Blake in the movie) died the next day.
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day. What's more, both men died of the same cause (heart attack). The eeriness of the coincidence, and a desire to avoid confusion, led to Bowen's family "stalling" news of his death until the following week.




15th Sep '17 7:14:32 PM bombadil211
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* ActorAllusion: Larry Linville guest starred on the original ''Series/MissionImpossible'' in three seperate episodes, each time as an Eastern Bloc official ([[YouLookFamiliar though never the same one twice]]) who all act a good deal like his later characterization of Burns, minus the comedic edge.

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* ActorAllusion: ActorAllusion:
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Larry Linville guest starred on the original ''Series/MissionImpossible'' in three seperate episodes, each time as an Eastern Bloc official ([[YouLookFamiliar though never the same one twice]]) who all act a good deal like his later characterization of Burns, minus the comedic edge.


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** Klinger, as one of his Section 8 scams, pretends to be a civilian back in Toledo and that Colonel Potter is a cop and angrily barks: "I pay your salary!", a line famously said to Joe Friday in the 1954 movie version of ''Franchise/{{Dragnet}}''. Harry Morgan (who played Potter) wasn't in that version of ''Dragnet'', however, co-starring in the 1967 incarnation of the franchise, instead.
31st Aug '17 4:03:10 AM ClintEastwood
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* AFIS100Years100Movies: #56
* AFIS100Years100Laughs: #7
* AFIS100Years100Songs:
** " #66, "Suicide Is Painless"
* AFIS100Years100Movies10THAnniversaryEdition: #54

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* AFIS100YearsSeries:
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AFIS100Years100Movies: #56
* ** AFIS100Years100Laughs: #7
* ** AFIS100Years100Songs:
** *** " #66, "Suicide Is Painless"
* ** AFIS100Years100Movies10THAnniversaryEdition: #54



* ExecutiveMeddling: The opening title sequence has a text that identifies the place as Korea. This was added at the insistence of the studio after Creator/RobertAltman had removed every reference to Korea, intending it to be mistaken for Vietnam, which would reinforce the anti-war statement.



* RealLifeRelative: Creator/RobertAltman's son Mike wrote the lyrics to the theme song "Suicide is Painless".
* StillbornFranchise: A film adaptation of the original novel's sequel ''MASH Goes to Maine'', following Hawkeye's life back in Maine after his discharge, was considered but never produced. However, this did end up giving way to the highly popular TV series.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A film adaptation of the original novel's sequel ''MASH Goes to Maine'', following Hawkeye's life back in Maine after his discharge, was considered but never produced. However, this did end up giving way to the highly popular TV series.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A film adaptation of Creator/JamesCaan, Creator/JamesCoburn and Creator/BurtReynolds turned down the original novel's sequel ''MASH Goes to Maine'', following Hawkeye's life back in Maine after his discharge, was considered but never produced. However, this did end up giving way to the highly popular TV series.role of Trapper John.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Numerous actors who would go on to bigger and better fame appeared on the show.
** Creator/PatrickSwayze appeared as a soldier diagnosed with [[HarsherInHindsight leukemia]].
** Creator/RonHoward as a wounded soldier who is underage to be in the military.
** Creator/LaurenceFishburne as a wounded soldier.
** Creator/PatMorita, Mr. Miyagi himself, as Sam Pak.
** Brian Dennehy as an MP.
** Alex Karras as a wounded soldier who's a little too thankful to Hawkeye for saving his life.
** Susan Saint James as a war correspondent who BJ falls for.
** Creator/LeslieNielsen as a colonel with a high casualty rate who gets gaslighted by Hawkeye and Trapper.
** George Wendt as a Marine with a pool ball stuck in his mouth.
*** Creator/AndrewDiceClay as a Marine in the same episode.
** Creator/ShelleyLong as a nurse Hawkeye gets involved with.
*** Ditto Joan Van Ark.
*** And Terri Garr.
*** And [[Film/MeetTheParents Blythe Danner]].
** Jeffrey Tambor as a PR flack.
** Creator/JamesCromwell as a practical joke-playing college friend of B.J.'s.
** John Ritter as a soldier who flips out and holds Frank at gunpoint.
** Younger viewers might recognize occasional guest star Creator/{{Mako}} as the voice of Uncle Iroh in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. They also might recognize Sab Shimono as the voice of Monk Gyatso/Master Yu.
** Art [=LaFleur=], a character actor who's been in quite a lot of stuff, as an MP who comes to bust the 4077th for stealing a general's steak but ends up joining them for dinner.
** Ed Begley, Jr. as a young soldier who turns out to be a fantastic cook.
** Kevin Hagen, ''Series/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'''s Dr. Baker, as a colonel who gets men killed to retrieve the bodies of American soldiers, then later as a major who shows up to deliver a warning with a wink and a nod to Hawkeye for disrupting the peace conference.
** Barry Corbin -- Whitey from ''Series/OneTreeHill'' -- as a retention officer who talks a despondent Klinger into reenlisting.
** Edward Herrmann of ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' as a fill-in doctor who seems to fit right in, but cracks under the pressure.
** Mark L. Taylor -- Mr. Fulton from ''Film/HighSchoolMusical2'' -- as a young soldier named O'Malley in "C*A*V*E".
* StarMakingRole: Hawkeye, for Alan Alda.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Numerous actors who would go on to bigger and better fame appeared on the show.
** Creator/PatrickSwayze appeared as a soldier diagnosed with [[HarsherInHindsight leukemia]].
** Creator/RonHoward as a wounded soldier who is underage to be in the military.
** Creator/LaurenceFishburne as a wounded soldier.
** Creator/PatMorita, Mr. Miyagi himself, as Sam Pak.
** Brian Dennehy as an MP.
** Alex Karras as a wounded soldier who's a little too thankful to Hawkeye for saving his life.
** Susan Saint James as a war correspondent who BJ falls for.
** Creator/LeslieNielsen as a colonel with a high casualty rate who gets gaslighted by Hawkeye and Trapper.
** George Wendt as a Marine with a pool ball stuck in his mouth.
*** Creator/AndrewDiceClay as a Marine in the same episode.
** Creator/ShelleyLong as a nurse Hawkeye gets involved with.
*** Ditto Joan Van Ark.
*** And Terri Garr.
*** And [[Film/MeetTheParents Blythe Danner]].
** Jeffrey Tambor as a PR flack.
** Creator/JamesCromwell as a practical joke-playing college friend of B.J.'s.
** John Ritter as a soldier who flips out and holds Frank at gunpoint.
** Younger viewers might recognize occasional guest star Creator/{{Mako}} as the voice of Uncle Iroh in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. They also might recognize Sab Shimono as the voice of Monk Gyatso/Master Yu.
** Art [=LaFleur=], a character actor who's been in quite a lot of stuff, as an MP who comes to bust the 4077th for stealing a general's steak but ends up joining them for dinner.
** Ed Begley, Jr. as a young soldier who turns out to be a fantastic cook.
** Kevin Hagen, ''Series/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'''s Dr. Baker, as a colonel who gets men killed to retrieve the bodies of American soldiers, then later as a major who shows up to deliver a warning with a wink and a nod to Hawkeye for disrupting the peace conference.
** Barry Corbin -- Whitey from ''Series/OneTreeHill'' -- as a retention officer who talks a despondent Klinger into reenlisting.
** Edward Herrmann of ''Series/GilmoreGirls'' as a fill-in doctor who seems to fit right in, but cracks under the pressure.
** Mark L. Taylor -- Mr. Fulton from ''Film/HighSchoolMusical2'' -- as a young soldier named O'Malley in "C*A*V*E".
* StarMakingRole: Hawkeye, for Alan Alda.Creator/AlanAlda.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: A somewhat sad example, considering the series suffered in the ratings during its inaugural season, that an alternate version of the episode "Ceasefire" was written, in which the war actually did end; this was done in case the series wasn't renewed for a second season.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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A somewhat sad example, considering the series suffered in the ratings during its inaugural season, that an alternate version of the episode "Ceasefire" was written, in which the war actually did end; this was done in case the series wasn't renewed for a second season.
1st Aug '17 8:52:21 PM glickmam
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** Wayne Rogers has gone on record saying that had he known the show was going to last eleven seasons, he would not have walked away after Season 3.

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** Wayne Rogers has gone on record saying that had he known the show was going to last eleven seasons, he would not have walked away after Season 3. [=McLean=] Stevenson echoed Rogers' statements as well.
1st Aug '17 8:48:55 PM glickmam
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** The various instances of main characters being PutOnABus probably counts as well as those actors all wanted out for one reason or another - Wayne Rogers and [=MacLean=] Stevenson resented being treated as sidekicks to Alan Alda (additionally Rogers had been at odds with the producers over his contract while Stevenson couldn't cope with the tough working conditions of the Fox Ranch), Larry Linville was tired of playing Frank and his contract was up, and Gary Burghoff had personal problems as well as a thinning hairline to deal with (by the time he left he looked like [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} George Costanza]]).
* RealitySubtext: Sure, Klinger stopped running around in dresses because he was being promoted to company clerk, and therefore, pretty much had to forget about trying to buck for Section 8 (that and the show wasn't funny anymore, and therefore Klinger running around in dresses would have been just plain odd during CerebusSyndrome)... but also because Jamie Farr's kids were being bullied by their peers for their dad "being a transvestite".

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** The various instances of main characters being PutOnABus probably counts as well as those actors all wanted out for one reason or another - Wayne Rogers and [=MacLean=] [=McLean=] Stevenson resented being treated as sidekicks to Alan Alda (additionally Rogers had been at odds with the producers over his contract while Stevenson couldn't cope with the tough working conditions of the Fox Ranch), Larry Linville was tired of playing Frank and his contract was up, and Gary Burghoff had personal problems as well as a thinning hairline to deal with (by the time he left he looked like [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} George Costanza]]).
* RealitySubtext: Sure, Klinger stopped running around in dresses because he was being promoted to company clerk, and therefore, pretty much had to forget about trying to buck for Section 8 (that and the show wasn't funny anymore, and therefore Klinger running around in dresses would have been just plain odd during CerebusSyndrome)... but also because Jamie Farr's Farr felt that his kids were being bullied by their peers for starting to feel embarrased about seeing their dad "being dressed "like a transvestite".transvestite" week after week on national TV.
24th Jul '17 9:17:16 AM Mdumas43073
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** Dr. Richard Hooker, the author of the original novel, despised this series so much that when asked about its end in 1983, he said the only thing he would miss were the royalty checks.

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** Dr. Richard Hooker, Hornberger, the author of the original novel, despised this series so much that when asked about its end in 1983, he said the only thing he would miss were the royalty checks.
24th Jul '17 9:16:35 AM Mdumas43073
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* CreatorBacklash: Despite winning the film's only UsefulNotes/AcademyAward, screenwriter Ring Lardner, Jr. later disowned the film since quite little of his script was used in the final film. On the DVD commentary for the film, Robert Altman said it upset him that Lardner hated the film so much, since the reason the film had the feel that it did (as opposed to the racist, sexist, homophobic book) was because of his script. Essentially, Altman claimed the final film was a distillation of Lardner's script.

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* CreatorBacklash: Despite winning the film's only UsefulNotes/AcademyAward, screenwriter Ring Lardner, Jr. later disowned the film since quite little of his script was used in the final film. On the his DVD commentary for the film, Robert Altman Creator/RobertAltman said it upset him that Lardner hated the film so much, since the reason the film had the feel that it did (as opposed to the racist, sexist, homophobic book) was because of his script. Essentially, Altman claimed the final film was a distillation of Lardner's script.
24th Jul '17 9:14:38 AM Mdumas43073
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** Somewhat with producer/director Gene Reynolds. Although he left from producing, directing, and running the show after Season Five, Alan Alda continued to consult with him on the show's production on a weekly basis. There were a few changes that Reynolds was not entirely pleased with, such as Frank Burns's departure, [[ShipTease the writers originally trying to find ways to hook Margaret up with Charles]], and Margaret's eventual divorce.


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** To a lesser extent, producer/director Gene Reynolds. Although he left from running the show after Season Five, Alan Alda continued to consult with him on the show's production on a weekly basis. There were a few changes that Reynolds was not entirely pleased with, such as Frank Burns's departure, [[ShipTease the writers originally trying to find ways to hook Margaret up with Charles]], and Margaret's eventual divorce.
24th Jul '17 8:46:21 AM Mdumas43073
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** Robert Altman also hated the series, mostly because he felt that it softened the anti-war and anti-authoritarian spirit of his movie. In his DVD commentary for the latter, he also disparages the series as racist.

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** Robert Altman Creator/RobertAltman also hated the series, mostly because he felt that it softened the anti-war and anti-authoritarian spirit of his movie. In his DVD commentary for the latter, he also further disparages the series show as racist.
24th Jul '17 8:45:00 AM Mdumas43073
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* CreatorBacklash: Dr. Richard Hooker, the author of the original novel, despised this series so much that when asked about its end in 1983, he said the only thing he would miss were the royalty checks.

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* CreatorBacklash: CreatorBacklash:
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Dr. Richard Hooker, the author of the original novel, despised this series so much that when asked about its end in 1983, he said the only thing he would miss were the royalty checks.



** Robert Altman also hated the TV series, mostly because he felt the TV Show softened the anti-war and anti-authoritarian spirit of the movie.

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** Robert Altman also hated the TV series, mostly because he felt the TV Show that it softened the anti-war and anti-authoritarian spirit of the his movie. In his DVD commentary for the latter, he also disparages the series as racist.
--->"I didn't like the series because that series to me was the opposite of my main reason for making this film and this was to talk about a foreign war, an Asian war, that was going on at the time. And to perpetuate that every Sunday night for 12 years and no matter what platitudes they say about their little messages and everything the basic image and message is that the brown people with the narrow eyes are the enemy. And so I think that series was quite a racist thing. I didn't approve of it, I don't like it, and I thought it was the antithesis of what we were trying to do. But most people [[AdaptationDisplacement don't even know this movie exists]]. If you poll the world, they'd say, 'Oh, that was that series with Alan Albert,' or whatever his name was."
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