History Trivia / JudgeDredd

17th Aug '17 7:11:26 PM TheFallofElDorado
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** Creator/ChristopherWalekn turned down the role of Rico.

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** Creator/ChristopherWalekn Creator/ChristopherWalken turned down the role of Rico.
20th Jun '17 2:23:21 PM CynicalBastardo
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** Some planned {{Spin Off}}s included one following a class of cadets from induction day to graduation with one of them discovering they were a Dredd clone and one which involved the adventures of a Long Walk judge. The latter was [[RecycledScript reformulated]] into a storyline in the ''[[LighterAndSofter Lawman Of The Future]]'' continuity with the Long Walker as the antagonist.
18th Jun '17 8:25:57 PM jormis29
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* NoStuntDouble: Creator/JoanChen and Diane Lane did their fight scene themselves, with the exception of a headbutt that was done by a stuntwoman.

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* NoStuntDouble: Creator/JoanChen and Diane Lane Creator/DianeLane did their fight scene themselves, with the exception of a headbutt that was done by a stuntwoman.
3rd Jun '17 1:51:15 PM Darthman616
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* FollowTheLeader: This was one of a good number of hyper-stylized comic based films to come out in the wake of Tim Burton's ''Film/{{Batman}}''.

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* FollowTheLeader: This was one of a good number of hyper-stylized comic based films released in the 90's to come out in the wake of Tim Burton's ''Film/{{Batman}}''.
3rd Jun '17 1:50:42 PM Darthman616
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* FollowTheLeader: This was one of a good number of hyper-stylized comic based films to come out in the wake of Tim Burton's ''Film/{{Batman}}''.
23rd May '17 3:52:33 PM MattP5557
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** The 1997 Franchise/DoctorWho novel "Burning Heart" was originally going to be a crossover but plans were scrapped because of the failure of the film.
21st Apr '17 10:37:18 AM CynicalBastardo
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** The entire Democracy storyline, was subjected to this. The story that kicked it off (Letter From a Democrat) was originally supposed to be a spoof about radical nudists who take a TV studio hostage in order to preach about the joys of total nudity. 2000AD would not let the story be published, so it was rewritten to be about a desperate housewife who sacrificed her life in a desperate bid to wake her people up towards the fascist dictatorship that was the Judges. Similarly, John Wagner's last contribution to the entire Democracy storyline was "Twilight's Last Gleeming: where Judge Dredd is targeted by a group of Judges who seek to kill him, since Dredd was the driving force for the referendum on the contination of the Judge system. Wagner explicitly told Garth Ennis (who took over the strip while Wagner started writing for the recently launched Judge Dredd Megazine) he could end the storyline anyway he wanted: Ennis opted for the utter destruction of the Democracy movement via the Judges winning in a low voter turn out referendum. When Wagner returned to the series in 1995, he promptly had the new Chief Judge Volt restore local autonomy to Mega-City 1 and restored local government that worked to run the aspects of the city the Judges were too busy to deal with. Had Wagner not left 2000AD, Wagner would have most likely had the referendum end in favor of the Democracy movement but with the Judges staying on in a shadow government style function.

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** The entire Democracy storyline, was subjected to this. The story that kicked it off (Letter From a Democrat) was originally supposed to be a spoof about radical nudists who take a TV studio hostage in order to preach about the joys of total nudity. 2000AD would not let the story be published, so it was rewritten to be about a desperate housewife who sacrificed her life in a desperate bid to wake her people up towards the fascist dictatorship that was the Judges. Similarly, John Wagner's last contribution to the entire Democracy storyline was "Twilight's Last Gleeming: "The Devil You Know": where Judge Dredd is targeted by a group of Judges who seek to kill him, since Dredd was the driving force for the referendum on the contination of the Judge system. Wagner explicitly told Garth Ennis (who took over the strip while Wagner started writing for the recently launched Judge Dredd Megazine) he could end the storyline anyway he wanted: Ennis opted for the utter destruction of the Democracy movement via the Judges winning in a low voter turn out referendum. When Wagner returned to the series in 1995, he promptly had the new Chief Judge Volt restore local autonomy to Mega-City 1 and restored local government that worked to run the aspects of the city the Judges were too busy to deal with. Had Wagner not left 2000AD, Wagner would have most likely had the referendum end in favor of the Democracy movement but with the Judges staying on in a shadow government style function.
5th Apr '17 5:29:40 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorBacklash:
** Stallone, as a fan of the comic, isn't happy with how the film turned out, feeling that much potential was wasted; he agreed in hindsight that the helmet should've stayed on as true to the character, and that it should've tried to focus in on one clear story arc as opposed to haphazardly pulling multiple elements from several ''Dredd'' stories. However, some of the dumber ideas (such as the infamous kiss with Hershey) were Stallone's.
** John Wagner wasn't happy with how this film turned out.
* InMyLanguageThatSoundsLike: Creator/SylvesterStallone slurring Dredd's catchphrase makes it sound like he's saying "AYAM TELUR!" Which is Malay for 'Chicken Egg'.
* PromotedFanboy: Director Danny Cannon. Apparently, Stallone too.

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* CreatorBacklash:
** Stallone,
BoxOfficeBomb: Budget, $90 million. Box office, $34,693,481 (domestic), $113,493,481 (worldwide). Effectively hamstrung any attempts to establish the Judge Dredd franchise in the U.S. It and ''In The Mouth of Madness'' swallowed the writing job of Michael De Luca, who stuck with being an executive at New Line and [=DreamWorks=] and Sony until 2010's ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''. It was also one of a series of critically-derided screenplays credited to Steven E. de Souza, and he would not get his next one for three years. The film as a whole and its production became an OldShame for both Creator/SylvesterStallone and the creator of ''Dredd'', John Wagner, who both felt the movie never attained its potential (Wagner felt Stallone was good for the role, but Stallone got a Razzie nom for it).
* CreatorBacklash: Creator/SylvesterStallone,
as a fan of the comic, isn't wasn't happy with how the film turned out, feeling that much potential was wasted; he agreed in hindsight that the helmet should've stayed on as true to the character, and that it should've tried to focus in on one clear story arc as opposed to haphazardly pulling multiple elements from several ''Dredd'' stories. However, some of the dumber ideas (such as the infamous kiss with Hershey) were Stallone's.
** -->I loved that property when I read it, because it took a genre that I love, what you could term the 'action morality film' and made it a bit more sophisticated. It had political overtones. It showed how if we don't curb the way we run our judicial system, the police may end up running our lives. It dealt with archaic governments; it dealt with cloning and all kinds of things that could happen in the future. It was also bigger than any film I've done in its physical stature and the way it was designed. All the people were dwarfed by the system and the architecture; it shows how insignificant human beings could be in the future. There's a lot of action in the movie and some great acting, too. It just wasn't balls to the wall. But I do look back on ''Judge Dredd'' as a real missed opportunity. It seemed that lots of fans had a problem with Dredd removing his helmet, because he never does in the comic books. But for me it is more about wasting such great potential there was in that idea; just think of all the opportunities there were to do interesting stuff with the Cursed Earth scenes. It didn't live up to what it could have been. It probably should have been much more comic, really humorous, and fun. What I learned out of that experience was that we shouldn't have tried to make it ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''; it's more ''Hamlet and Eggs''.
* DisownedAdaptation:
John Wagner wasn't happy with how this film turned out.
* InMyLanguageThatSoundsLike: Creator/SylvesterStallone slurring Dredd's catchphrase makes it sound like he's saying "AYAM TELUR!" Which is Malay
out, telling Empire in 2012: "the story had nothing to do with Judge Dredd, and Judge Dredd wasn’t really Judge Dredd even though Stallone was perfect for 'Chicken Egg'.
the part." In an interview with Total Film, he said that the film had "tried to do too much" and "told the wrong story".
* NoStuntDouble: Creator/JoanChen and Diane Lane did their fight scene themselves, with the exception of a headbutt that was done by a stuntwoman.
* PromotedFanboy: Director Danny Cannon. Apparently, Stallone too.Cannon was a huge fan of the comics. He even entered a competition to design a [[http://s21.photobucket.com/user/spacemonkey_fg/media/Blog%20Pictures%20III/JudgeDredd19951_zpsdb3cfd82.gif.html Judge Dredd movie poster]].
* ScullyBox: Inverted in one scene where it's to make Creator/SylvesterStallone tower over the young recruits.



* ThrowItIn: Rob Schneider's impression of Stallone on the ship to the penal colony was improvised.

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* ThrowItIn: Rob Schneider's Creator/RobSchneider's impression of Stallone on the ship to the penal colony was improvised.



** Creator/RennyHarlin and Music/RichardDonner were the first choices for director.




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** Creator/ChristopherWalekn turned down the role of Rico.
** At first, the villain for this movie was going to be Judge Death, but it was too expensive to create his skeleton body, and Rico had more to do with Dredd's past.
** Music/JerryGoldsmith was originally scheduled to score the film, but due to scheduling problems had to drop out. However, as a favor to the producers, he wrote an original score for the film's original teaser trailer that has since been used on a number of other trailers. Music/DavidArnold was originally hired to replace him, but was himself replaced by Music/AlanSilvestri because the producers felt he was too closely allied to director Danny Cannon.
21st Mar '17 9:09:42 PM MirrorNoir
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** "City of the Damned" was supposed to be a massive 20-30 part epic on par with Apocalypse War, The Day The Law Died, The Judge Child Quest, and Cursed Earth. But shortly after production began, John Wagner got bored with the story (especially after 2000AD lost some of the artwork that made up half of a chapter, forcing it to be hastily redrawn). So it came to an abrupt halt and the entire Judge Child storyline wrapped up as well, due to Wagner wanting to be done with it once and for all.
**"Oz" was subject to a lot of behind the scenes changes. The original version of the storyline did not feature the Judda Clan storyline whatsoever. The Judda subplot was a planned storyline that was to run after Oz but got incorporated into the arc due to the strip falling behind schedule production-wise. Also, the ending (which sealed the fate of the partnership of Alan Grant and John Wagner) was originally supposed to be Dredd executing Oz. Grant, who was increasingly pushing Dredd to become more villainous as a TakeThat to those who rooted for the Judges, wanted Dredd to murder Chopper in cold blood with no repercussion. Wagner vehemontly refused, not only because he wanted to have the character be available for future use, but also because he realized that Grant's direction would kill off the book.
**The entire Democracy storyline, was subjected to this. The story that kicked it off (Letter From a Democrat) was originally supposed to be a spoof about radical nudists who take a TV studio hostage in order to preach about the joys of total nudity. 2000AD would not let the story be published, so it was rewritten to be about a desperate housewife who sacrificed her life in a desperate bid to wake her people up towards the fascist dictatorship that was the Judges. Similarly, John Wagner's last contribution to the entire Democracy storyline was "Twilight's Last Gleeming: where Judge Dredd is targeted by a group of Judges who seek to kill him, since Dredd was the driving force for the referendum on the contination of the Judge system. Wagner explicitly told Garth Ennis (who took over the strip while Wagner started writing for the recently launched Judge Dredd Megazine) he could end the storyline anyway he wanted: Ennis opted for the utter destruction of the Democracy movement via the Judges winning in a low voter turn out referendum. When Wagner returned to the series in 1995, he promptly had the new Chief Judge Volt restore local autonomy to Mega-City 1 and restored local government that worked to run the aspects of the city the Judges were too busy to deal with. Had Wagner not left 2000AD, Wagner would have most likely had the referendum end in favor of the Democracy movement but with the Judges staying on in a shadow government style function.
23rd Dec '16 11:43:48 AM LarryMullen
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* ShootTheMoney: Despite one of Dredd's most famous traits being that he has never taken off his helmet or shown his face (At least not when he wasn't disguised, injured or bandaged to the point where you can't actually see his face) in the more than 30-year history of the comic, the producers were paying for a big name star so Stallone went helmetless about 20 minutes into the movie and stayed that way.
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