History Trivia / Hoodwinked

19th Mar '18 4:29:57 AM jormis29
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* BillingDisplacement: Dolph shows up on the police lineup poster, which is odd because he doesn't even appear until the second half. Especially odd in that he is not played by a name celebrity, and holds a sign displaying "Xzibit as Chief Grizzly." Twitchy also holds a sign advertising Anthony Anderson as Bill Stork, both minor characters but more major than Dolph. Flippers appears but David Ogden Stiers' name does not, and Boingo is completely absent (which probably helps hide the plot twist). Needless to say, it is an odd poster.

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* BillingDisplacement: Dolph shows up on the police lineup poster, which is odd because he doesn't even appear until the second half. Especially odd in that he is not played by a name celebrity, and holds a sign displaying "Xzibit as Chief Grizzly." Twitchy also holds a sign advertising Anthony Anderson as Bill Stork, both minor characters but more major than Dolph. Flippers appears but David Ogden Stiers' Creator/DavidOgdenStierss' name does not, and Boingo is completely absent (which probably helps hide the plot twist). Needless to say, it is an odd poster.



** David Ogden Stiers was originally double-cast as both Kirk and Nicky Flippers, which involved extensive TalkingToHimself. Creator/JamesBelushi replaced him as Kirk, but he managed to remain as Flippers.

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** David Ogden Stiers Creator/DavidOgdenStiers was originally double-cast as both Kirk and Nicky Flippers, which involved extensive TalkingToHimself. Creator/JamesBelushi replaced him as Kirk, but he managed to remain as Flippers.
6th Nov '17 8:09:20 AM chasemaddigan
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!!The original movie contains examples of:

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!!The original movie contains examples of:



** All of the songs were shortened on direct order from the Weinstein Brothers, which ruined a lot of BackStory and some great lyrics.

!!The sequel contains examples of:
* TheDanza / StuntCasting: Heidi played by Heidi Klum.
* DevelopmentHell: More '''Distribution''' Hell, but still.
* NoExportForYou: Never got released in the UK.
* TheOtherDarrin: ''Hoodwinked Too!'' features the voice of Creator/HaydenPanettiere as Red, instead of Creator/AnneHathaway. Panettiere actually did this '''before''' she voiced her character in ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'', which was completed, promoted (by Panettiere, who also came to the UK for this purpose), released in cinemas, put out on DVD ''and'' shown on cable (like Sky Box Office in Britain) while this movie was being ScrewedByTheNetwork - see below. (Incidentally, the sequel has no British release date as of January 2016, and it may yet suffer the fate of fellow Weinstein release ''The Great Debaters'' - which went DirectToDVD in the UK ''four years'' after it came out in the States.)
** The Woodsman also has a new voice this time around, with Martin Short in place of Jim Belushi.
* ThoseTwoActors: Bill Hader and Amy Poehler also starred together in the movie [[{{WesternAnimation/InsideOut}} Inside Out]].
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/03/kanbar-entertainment-says-it-was-hoodwinked-by-weinstein-co-.html Was very close to this happening]].
* SequelGap: Thanks to the above-mentioned DevelopmentHell, this film ended up being released in 2011, six years after the original 2005 film.
* ThoseTwoActors: This is the third time Creator/HaydenPanettiere and Joan Cusack have been in the same movie (see also ''Film/RaisingHelen'' and ''Film/IcePrincess'').

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** All of the songs were shortened on direct order from the Weinstein Brothers, which ruined a lot of BackStory and some great lyrics.

!!The sequel contains examples of:
* TheDanza / StuntCasting: Heidi played by Heidi Klum.
* DevelopmentHell: More '''Distribution''' Hell, but still.
* NoExportForYou: Never got released in the UK.
* TheOtherDarrin: ''Hoodwinked Too!'' features the voice of Creator/HaydenPanettiere as Red, instead of Creator/AnneHathaway. Panettiere actually did this '''before''' she voiced her character in ''WesternAnimation/AlphaAndOmega'', which was completed, promoted (by Panettiere, who also came to the UK for this purpose), released in cinemas, put out on DVD ''and'' shown on cable (like Sky Box Office in Britain) while this movie was being ScrewedByTheNetwork - see below. (Incidentally, the sequel has no British release date as of January 2016, and it may yet suffer the fate of fellow Weinstein release ''The Great Debaters'' - which went DirectToDVD in the UK ''four years'' after it came out in the States.)
** The Woodsman also has a new voice this time around, with Martin Short in place of Jim Belushi.
* ThoseTwoActors: Bill Hader and Amy Poehler also starred together in the movie [[{{WesternAnimation/InsideOut}} Inside Out]].
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/03/kanbar-entertainment-says-it-was-hoodwinked-by-weinstein-co-.html Was very close to this happening]].
* SequelGap: Thanks to the above-mentioned DevelopmentHell, this film ended up being released in 2011, six years after the original 2005 film.
* ThoseTwoActors: This is the third time Creator/HaydenPanettiere and Joan Cusack have been in the same movie (see also ''Film/RaisingHelen'' and ''Film/IcePrincess'').
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1st Nov '17 3:38:05 PM trulymadmoves
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* AllStarCast: Funnily, this wasn't planned to happen. Originally, a few actors voiced two characters: Tara Strong voiced Red and Zorra, a member of Granny's ski team. David Ogden Stiers voiced Flippers as well as Kirk (if this had stayed, Flippers interviewing Kirk would essentially be one guy interviewing himself). The Edwards brothers' associate Tony Leech voiced Det. Bill Stork, Sally Struthers voiced Granny, Joel [=McCrary=] as Chief Grizzly, and Tom Kenny was Woolworth. Only a few of the original cast roles were kept - such as Patrick Warburton's role as the Wolf and Andy Dick's role as Boingo.
** Due to ExecutiveMeddling by the distributor, a lot of these voice roles were changed in favor of high profile actors:
*** Creator/AnneHathaway replaced Strong to provide Red's voice.
*** Creator/JimBelushi replaced Stiers as Kirk's voice.
*** Creator/AnthonyAnderson replaced Leech to voice Det. Stork
*** Music/{{Xzibit}} replaced [=McCrary=] as Grizzly.
*** Creator/ChazzPalminteri replaced Kenny for Woolworth.
*** Creator/BenjyGaither's role as Japeth almost got recast by better known country singers. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen It would have been interesting if someone like Willie Nelson were voicing him.]]
*** The animation had been completed to such an extent that when the roles were recast, the new actors had to deliver the new lines exactly the same way the original lines had been given.

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* AllStarCast: Funnily, this wasn't planned to happen. Originally, a few actors voiced two characters: Tara Strong voiced Red As detailed in Billing Displacement and Zorra, a member of Granny's ski team. David Ogden Stiers voiced Flippers as well as Kirk (if this had stayed, Flippers interviewing Kirk would essentially be one guy interviewing himself). The Edwards brothers' associate Tony Leech voiced Det. Bill Stork, Sally Struthers voiced Granny, Joel [=McCrary=] as Chief Grizzly, and Tom Kenny was Woolworth. Only a few of the original cast roles were kept - such as Patrick Warburton's role as the Wolf and Andy Dick's role as Boingo.
** Due to ExecutiveMeddling by the distributor, a lot of these voice roles were changed in favor of high profile actors:
*** Creator/AnneHathaway replaced Strong to provide Red's voice.
*** Creator/JimBelushi replaced Stiers as Kirk's voice.
*** Creator/AnthonyAnderson replaced Leech to voice Det. Stork
*** Music/{{Xzibit}} replaced [=McCrary=] as Grizzly.
*** Creator/ChazzPalminteri replaced Kenny for Woolworth.
*** Creator/BenjyGaither's role as Japeth almost got recast by better known country singers. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen It would have been interesting if someone like Willie Nelson were voicing him.]]
*** The animation had been completed to such an extent that when the roles were recast, the new actors had to deliver the new lines exactly the same way the original lines had been given.
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* TheOtherMarty: The film was originally less star-studded than the final cut, until ExecutiveMeddling ordered an AllStarCast be brought in to replace most of the characters at the last minute.
** Red was originally played by Creator/TaraStrong, and replaced by Creator/AnneHathaway. Strong remains in the film as Zorra, the fox on Granny's ski team.
** Granny was originally played by Sally Struthers, and Chief Grizzly by Joel [=McCrary=], before they were replaced by Glenn Close and Xzibit. Struthers and [=McCrary=] receive "special thanks" credits in the film, as this replacement eliminated them from the film entirely.
** David Ogden Stiers was originally double-cast as both Kirk and Nicky Flippers, which involved extensive TalkingToHimself. Creator/JamesBelushi replaced him as Kirk, but he managed to remain as Flippers.
** Voice actor Creator/TomKenny was originally Woolworth, while Tony Leech, one of the film's three primary creators, was Bill Stork. They were replaced by Chazz Palminteri and Anthony Anderson, but their voices remain in the film as two of the pig cops.
** Patrick Warburton as Wolf, Andy Dick as Boingo, and Stiers' performance as Flippers are the only remnants of the original main cast still in the final film, apart from director Cory Edwards as Twitchy and unknown singer Benjy Gaither as Japeth--there was talk of replacing Gaither with a better-known country singer, but this was ultimately cancelled as Gaither embodied the role so well.



* ThoseTwoActors: Bill Hader and Amy Poehler also starred together in the movie [[{{WesternAnimation/InsideOut}} Inside Out]].



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: You have to wonder what would have happened had the Weinstein Company not ordered the recasting of a number of main characters' voices. In the finished film, Tara Strong has a bit role as Zorra, the fox on Granny's ski team. As the film was originally cast, she also voiced Red before Creator/AnneHathaway did. David Ogden Stiers voices Flippers, and also used to voice Kirk. The Edwards brothers' associate Tony Leech voiced Det. Bill Stork before Creator/AnthonyAnderson. Emmy-winning actress Sally Struthers voiced Granny before Glenn Close did. Only a few of the original cast roles were kept when ExecutiveMeddling set in - such as Patrick Warburton as the Wolf and Andy Dick as Boingo. And Japeth almost got recast.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: You have to wonder what would have happened had the Weinstein Company not ordered the recasting of a number of main characters' voices. In the finished film, Tara Strong has a bit role as Zorra, the fox on Granny's ski team. As the film was originally cast, she also voiced Red before Creator/AnneHathaway did. David Ogden Stiers voices Flippers, and also used to voice Kirk. (see The Edwards brothers' associate Tony Leech voiced Det. Bill Stork before Creator/AnthonyAnderson. Emmy-winning actress Sally Struthers voiced Granny before Glenn Close did. Only a few of the original cast roles were kept when ExecutiveMeddling set in - such as Patrick Warburton as the Wolf and Andy Dick as Boingo. And Japeth almost got recast.Other Marty, above).


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* ThoseTwoActors: Bill Hader and Amy Poehler also starred together in the movie [[{{WesternAnimation/InsideOut}} Inside Out]].
4th Oct '17 3:52:54 AM SamMax
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* SequelGap: Thanks to the above-mentioned DevelopmentHell, this film ended up being released in 2011, six years after the original 2005 film.
24th Sep '17 7:54:38 PM trulymadmoves
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** In terms of the actual billed cast:
*** The actors playing the four suspects are credited in this order: Anne Hathaway, Glenn Close, Jim Belushi, and Patrick Warburton. Warburton is easily the film's second most prominent character. It's fairly reasonable that Close is billed ahead of him, but he ''definitely'' shouldn't have come after Belushi.
*** This is followed by the three investigators: Anthony Anderson, David Ogden Stiers, and Xzibit. Stiers and Xzibit are the ones running most the investigation, while Anderson is largely just hanging around. Some trailers even mention Anderson ''instead of Warburton'', while, as mentioned above, some posters and covers don't mention Stiers.
*** Then we get Chazz Palminteri, who is in the movie for less than a minute, getting billed before Andy Dick. Partially justified by giving Dick the AndStarring treatment on some posters, which he doesn't get in the movie proper.
*** Last on the bill are Cory Edwards and Benjy Gaither, both of whom are complete unknowns. Edwards' character is prominent enough to semi-justify it, but Gaither is a OneSceneWonder.
18th Jul '17 8:57:58 AM fruitstripegum
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* CutSong: Not exactly ''cut'' so much as truncated, but "Great Big World," Red's song, is much longer on the soundtrack - the first verse, the chorus, then a second verse and a refrain of the chorus. In the film, we see all of the first verse (shots of Red riding her bike), but as soon as Red is carried across a stream by hummingbirds, the scene cuts to her on her bike overlooking a valley and the song's refrain. The first run of the chorus and the second verse were animated fully and can be viewed in context on the deleted scenes (the chorus is sung by some beavers riding a log downstream as Red rides on the shore, while Red sings the second verse while she makes deliveries).

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** "Be Prepared" is much longer on the soundtrack - with an extra running of the chorus before the bit where Gaither slides down the scale that is not in the final film or the deleted scenes. The deleted scenes version runs an additional eight seconds, with some extra lines added in near the beginning where Japeth steps closer to Red and then eats a rose before the bit where he tips a chair over.
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Not exactly ''cut'' so much as truncated, but "Great Big World," Red's song, is much longer on the soundtrack - the first verse, the chorus, then a second verse and a refrain of the chorus. In the film, we see all of the first verse (shots of Red riding her bike), but as soon as Red is carried across a stream by hummingbirds, the scene cuts to her on her bike overlooking a valley and the song's refrain. The first run of the chorus and the second verse were animated fully and can be viewed in context on the deleted scenes (the chorus is sung by some beavers riding a log downstream as Red rides on the shore, while Red sings the second verse while she makes deliveries).
18th Jul '17 8:55:57 AM fruitstripegum
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* CutSong: Not exactly ''cut'' so much as truncated, but "Great Big World," Red's song, is much longer on the soundtrack - the first verse, the chorus, then a second verse and a refrain of the chorus. In the film, we see all of the first verse (shots of Red riding her bike), but as soon as Red is carried across a stream by hummingbirds, the scene cuts to her on her bike overlooking a valley and the song's refrain. The first run of the chorus and the second verse were animated fully and can be viewed in context on the deleted scenes (the chorus is sung by some beavers riding a log downstream as Red rides on the shore, while Red sings the second verse while she makes deliveries).


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* ThoseTwoActors: Bill Hader and Amy Poehler also starred together in the movie [[{{WesternAnimation/InsideOut}} Inside Out]].
23rd Apr '17 5:09:24 PM chasemaddigan
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* BillingDisplacement: Dolph shows up on the police lineup poster, which is odd because he doesn't even appear until the second half. Especially odd in that he is not played by a name celebrity, and holds a sign displaying "Xzibit as Chief Grizzly." Twitchy also holds a sign advertising Anthony Anderson as Bill Stork, both minor characters but more major than Dolph. Flippers appears but David Ogden Stiers' name does not, and Boingo is completely absent (which probably helps hide the plot twist). Needless to say, it is an odd poster.
13th May '16 7:17:24 PM ThePocket
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* OrphanedReference: The cut first chorus and second verse of "Great Big World" left a couple of these. The line "goodies make the woods go round" comes back when Red says "Woods don't go round by themselves", which just sounds random out of context, and the full line isn't repeated until the VillainSong near the end. The shot of her being carried across the river by a flock of birds is the part of the sequence the Wolf is seen observing during his version of the story, which becomes a rare alternate-angle shot that doesn't match up with anything but at least explains the second CallBack when Nicky says she was "flying a flock of birds without a permit".
25th Apr '16 10:43:26 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Look at that poster up there.
** [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers Brock Samson]] as the Wolf? YES!
** Chazz Palmentieri in a cameo as a sheep.
** In the Japanese dub: [[Creator/TomokazuSeki Boingo is]] [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Domon Kashuu]] and [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Sousuke Sagara]].
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