History Trivia / GameOfThrones

18th May '17 12:20:23 PM Anddrix
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** In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', Mason Bridge makes a brief reference to the Dothraki language, comparing it to {{Technobabble}} from his perspective. [[CelebrityParadox Interestingly]], Creator/RilaFukushima, who plays a Red Priestess in Season 5, was a RecurringCharacter [[Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} in that show's universe]].

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** In ''Series/TheFlash2014'', Mason Bridge makes a brief reference to the Dothraki language, comparing it to {{Technobabble}} from his perspective. [[CelebrityParadox Interestingly]], Creator/RilaFukushima, who plays a Red Priestess in Season 5, was a RecurringCharacter [[Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} [[Series/{{Arrowverse}} in that show's universe]].
17th May '17 5:46:06 PM sayaleviathan
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** Melisandre cutting Jon Snow's hair in preparation for his resurrection in the Season 6 episode "Home" alludes to Creator/KitHarington having a contractually obligated mandate that he not cut his hair for the duration of the show.

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** Melisandre cutting Jon Snow's hair in preparation for [[spoiler:for his resurrection resurrection]] in the Season 6 episode "Home" alludes to Creator/KitHarington having a contractually obligated mandate that he not cut his hair for the duration of the show.



* StarMakingRole: ''Loads'', but most notably Creator/EmiliaClarke, Creator/MichelleFairley, Creator/MaisieWilliams, Creator/KitHarington, Creator/NikolajCosterWaldau, Creator/SophieTurner, Creator/RichardMadden, Creator/GwendolineChristie, Creator/AlfieAllen, Creator/GethinAnthony, Creator/PedroPascal, Creator/FinnJones and Creator/IwanRheon. And although not completely unknown prior to the show, Creator/PeterDinklage, Creator/LenaHeadey, Creator/AidanGillen, Creator/CharlesDance, Creator/CariceVanHouten, Creator/NatalieDormer, Creator/StephenDillane, Creator/IainGlen, Creator/LiamCunningham and Creator/JasonMomoa truly ascended stardom afterwards.

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* StarMakingRole: ''Loads'', but most notably Creator/EmiliaClarke, Creator/MichelleFairley, Creator/MaisieWilliams, Creator/KitHarington, Creator/NikolajCosterWaldau, Creator/SophieTurner, Creator/RichardMadden, Creator/GwendolineChristie, Creator/AlfieAllen, Creator/GethinAnthony, Creator/PedroPascal, Creator/FinnJones Creator/FinnJones, Creator/JessicaHenwick and Creator/IwanRheon. And although not completely unknown prior to the show, Creator/PeterDinklage, Creator/LenaHeadey, Creator/AidanGillen, Creator/CharlesDance, Creator/CariceVanHouten, Creator/NatalieDormer, Creator/StephenDillane, Creator/IainGlen, Creator/LiamCunningham and Creator/JasonMomoa truly ascended stardom afterwards.



** As if to add insult to injury to those expecting Lady Stoneheart after the Season 6 episode "No One" seemed to have {{Jossed}} it for good, in the episode the Hound also takes a piss into the river where Catelyn's body would have been found.

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** As if to add insult to injury to those expecting Lady [[spoiler:Lady Stoneheart after the Season 6 episode "No One" seemed to have {{Jossed}} it for good, in the episode the Hound also takes a piss into the river where Catelyn's body would have been found.found]].



** Creator/NikolajCostarWaldau joins in trolling shenanigans where he holds a duck and tells the book readers to think about it. [[spoiler:This led to many speculations that Ser Rolly Duckfield and Aegon "Young Griff" Targaryen's appearances. But it turns out that they were never in the show at all and Nikolaj was just fooling around]].



** Kristian Nairn clarified that Hodor was not being warged in his final moments in "The Door" and made his HeroicSacrifice of his own free will, describing his last thoughts as being happy that Bran and Meera would survive.

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** Kristian Nairn clarified that Hodor was not being warged in [[spoiler:in his final moments in "The Door" and made his HeroicSacrifice of his own free will, describing his last thoughts as being happy that Bran and Meera would survive.survive]].
17th May '17 5:11:33 PM sayaleviathan
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** The Season 6 finale cements that we are entering the end of the series and adapting plot from the books is no longer an option: Daenerys is finally on the move, King's Landing's scheming is over, Arya is back in Westeros and the North is bracing themselves for the war. On a minor note, it may have overtaken the books in revealing House Frey's words. It is implied during the feast the words are "We stand together."

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** The Season 6 finale cements that we are entering the end of the series and adapting plot from the books is no longer an option: Daenerys [[spoiler:Daenerys is finally on the move, King's Landing's scheming is over, Arya is back in Westeros and the North is bracing themselves for the war.White Walkers]]. On a minor note, it may have overtaken the books in revealing House Frey's words. It is implied during the feast the words are "We stand together."



* WordOfGod: Because of the, seemingly, vague nature of their deaths, the director and showrunners later came out to clarify that both Stannis and Myrcella Baratheon did indeed get killed in the Season 5 episode "Mother's Mercy."

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* WordOfGod: Because of the, seemingly, vague nature of their deaths, the director and showrunners later came out to clarify that both [[spoiler:both Stannis and Myrcella Baratheon Baratheon]] did indeed get killed in the Season 5 episode "Mother's Mercy."
16th May '17 2:18:28 AM sayaleviathan
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** Rickon's death in "Battle of the Bastards" was correctly predicted by most fans. Many also guessed that either Wun Wun or Tormund will die.

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** Rickon's [[spoiler:Rickon's death in "Battle of the Bastards" was correctly predicted by most fans. Many also guessed that either Wun Wun or Tormund will die.die]].



*** The biggest and the most known of all theories since the release of ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'' was confirmed, that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother, and also that the promise Ned made was to take care of Jon. Rhaegar is strongly implied to be his father, but this is not explicitly mentioned. Note that knowledge of Jon's mother's identity was what got David Benioff and Dan Weiss the job adapting the series in the first place. [[AllThereInTheManual Official supplemental material]] for the show [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160629193851/http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/got-connections-ned-promise-tower-of-joy-infographic confirms]] that Rhaegar is Jon's father. You can relax now.]]

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*** The biggest and the most known of all theories since the release of ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'' was confirmed, that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother, and also that the promise Ned made was to take care of Jon. Rhaegar is strongly implied to be his father, but this is not explicitly mentioned. Note that knowledge of Jon's mother's identity was what got David Benioff and Dan Weiss the job adapting the series in the first place. [[AllThereInTheManual Official supplemental material]] for the show [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160629193851/http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/got-connections-ned-promise-tower-of-joy-infographic confirms]] that Rhaegar is Jon's father. You can relax now.]]



*** Subverted with Tommen's death. While a lot of people predicted he might go out in the finale, or at least sometime before his mother, most did ''not'' expect it to be via suicide.
*** It has been a fairly popular fan theory that Cersei would use the wildfire caches that the Mad King left behind. This is finally made good on when she sets a cache of it to go off underneath the Great Sept of Baelor during the scheduled time for her trial, taking every one of her political adversaries with it.

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*** Subverted [[spoiler:Subverted with Tommen's death.death]]. While a lot of people predicted he might go out in the finale, or at least sometime before his mother, most did ''not'' expect it to be via suicide.
*** It has been a fairly popular fan theory that Cersei [[spoiler:Cersei would use the wildfire caches that the Mad King left behind. This is finally made good on when she sets a cache of it to go off underneath the Great Sept of Baelor during the scheduled time for her trial, taking every one of her political adversaries with it.it]].



*** There were those optimistic that [[HesJustHiding Shaggydog wasn't really killed by the Umbers]] and they were only faking their allegiance to Ramsay, so they could turn on him later during the battle. The evidence to support this theory to are: the head presented to them was too small to belong to Shaggywolf and Smalljon's immense dislike of Ramsay. These hopes were dashed with Rickon's death and Smalljon being killed in action.

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*** There were those optimistic that [[HesJustHiding [[spoiler:[[HesJustHiding Shaggydog wasn't really killed by the Umbers]] and they were only faking their allegiance to Ramsay, so they could turn on him later during the battle. The evidence to support this theory to are: the head presented to them was too small to belong to Shaggywolf and Smalljon's immense dislike of Ramsay. These hopes were dashed with Rickon's death and Smalljon being killed in action.action]].



*** Whatever gambit Margaery had planned like many fans expected ''literally'' goes up in flames when she gets caught in the crossfire of the Great Sept explosion.
*** Despite being an open secret already, there were those who felt that Tommen being the High Sparrow's PuppetKing would eventually lead to his heritage being undeniably revealed to the public. They both die before the episode's end.
*** The theory about Sansa trying to undermine Jon's claim to Winterfell based on her secret pact with Littlefinger gets shut down - she apologizes to Jon, tells Baelish to go fuck himself and is visibly content with Jon being declared King in the North, as it puts a spanner in Baelish's creepy plans. With that said, WordOfGod claims that she is at the very least unhappy that she wasn't properly rewarded following Jon's coronation so who knows where this might lead.

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*** Whatever gambit Margaery had planned like [[spoiler:like many fans expected ''literally'' goes up in flames when she gets caught in the crossfire of the Great Sept explosion.
explosion]].
*** Despite being an open secret already, there were those who felt that Tommen being the High Sparrow's PuppetKing would eventually lead to his heritage being undeniably revealed to the public. They [[spoiler:They both die before the episode's end.
end]].
*** The theory about Sansa trying to undermine Jon's claim to Winterfell based on her secret pact with Littlefinger gets shut down - she apologizes to Jon, tells Baelish to go fuck himself and is visibly content with Jon being [[spoiler:being declared King in the North, North]], as it puts a spanner in Baelish's creepy plans. With that said, WordOfGod claims that she is at the very least unhappy that she wasn't properly rewarded following Jon's coronation so who knows where this might lead.



* RetroactiveRecognition: The Season 3 episode "And Now His Watch Is Ended" features the first main glimpse of Burn Gorman as Karl Tanner. Although he isn't referred to be name in the episode; he plays a key role in it, by instigating the mutiny through killing Craster, which then leads to Jeor Mormont's death soon after.



** Even through the Season 6 finale is well-known for revealing (or just confirming what was already assumed) that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother]], it still didn't reveal one detail: Whatever Lyanna said Jon's birth name was, it was muted, and the subtitles didn't caption that line, meaning that an entire new forest of EpilepticTrees is about to be planted.

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** Even through the Season 6 finale is well-known for revealing (or just confirming what was already assumed) that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother]], it still didn't reveal one detail: Whatever [[spoiler:Whatever Lyanna said Jon's birth name was, was]], it was muted, and the subtitles didn't caption that line, meaning that an entire new forest of EpilepticTrees is about to be planted.



*** Hodor's death was indended to be even more brutal. Luckily, the writers decided that the scene was emotionally jarring as it is.

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*** Hodor's [[spoiler:Hodor's death was indended indented to be even more brutal.brutal]]. Luckily, the writers decided that the scene was emotionally jarring as it is.



*** The director wanted to give Ramsay's death the AlasPoorVillain treatment, but luckily Benioff and Weiss talked some sense into him, since no one could possibly buy it.

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*** The director wanted to give Ramsay's death [[spoiler:Ramsay's death]] the AlasPoorVillain treatment, but luckily Benioff and Weiss talked some sense into him, since no one could possibly buy it.
16th May '17 2:03:19 AM sayaleviathan
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* FlipFlopOfGod: Ask three different creators (director, actor, writer) whether Jaime and Cersei having sex in the Great Sept in the fourth season episode "Breaker of Chains" was meant to be rape, consensual, or [[QuestionableConsent some murky and disturbing gray area in between]], and you'll get three different answers. Ask the same creator twice and you might get two. Just prior to the Season 5 premiere, things started to become more clear. Both of the actors involved, when directly asked, outright stated in interviews that they didn't play it as a rape scene and nonconsensual, ''nor'' were they instructed to (i.e. it couldn't have been in the script they received). Alex Graves keep putting his foot in his mouth, but in the longer interview he gave with Vulture.com, he directly stated that he didn't intend it to be rape either - ''nor'' did the writers tell him to. When staff writer Bryan Cogman was asked (who didn't write this episode), he got really nervous and instead said he can't speak for Benioff and Weiss at all. Coster-Waldau finally more clearly explained that the fear going around is that if they say "no, this wasn't intended to be a rape scene, the camerawork was utterly screwed up" - people will accuse them of rape denial. Which begs the question...why not re-edit and rerelease the scene, as they did when President Bush's head was mounted on a spike in the Season 1 finale? Well worth watching is the Oxford Union panel video (45 minutes in), when a fan directly asks in a live Q&A, "Why was this a rape scene?": Benioff is caught off guard, visibly waffles around between talking points to avoid the question, and ultimately ends up just ''restating'' the question back at the viewer: "we had Jaime do that in that scene because...we felt that was a thing he would do in that moment". He also tactfully avoided using the world "rape" to describe it. He didn't even try to address her direct question about how odd it was that the next episode, neither one of them reacts as if Cersei just got raped. Increasingly it appears that this was just a camera accident, it ''should'' have been reedited, but Benioff and Weiss are too terrified to admit they made such a careless mistake. For the reasons cited above, the ''Game of Thrones Wiki'' went so far as to judge the scene non-canon, or rather, that there's no possible way Benioff and Weiss intended this as a rape scene, couldn't have given such instructions in the script, and openly calling for HBO to re-edit and re-release the scene (as explained in a [[http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Breaker_of_Chains/Jaime-Cersei_sex_scene 12 page long sub-article]] explaining this conclusion, filled with citations).

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* FlipFlopOfGod: Ask three different creators (director, actor, writer) whether Jaime and Cersei having sex in the Great Sept in the fourth season episode "Breaker of Chains" was meant to be rape, consensual, or [[QuestionableConsent some murky and disturbing gray area in between]], and you'll get three different answers. Ask the same creator twice and you might get two. Just prior to the Season 5 premiere, things started to become more clear. Both of the actors involved, when directly asked, outright stated in interviews that they didn't play it as a rape scene and nonconsensual, ''nor'' were they instructed to (i.e. it couldn't have been in the script they received). Alex Graves keep putting his foot in his mouth, but in the longer interview he gave with Vulture.com, he directly stated that he didn't intend it to be rape either - ''nor'' did the writers tell him to. When staff writer Bryan Cogman was asked (who didn't write this episode), he got really nervous and instead said he can't speak for Benioff and Weiss at all. Coster-Waldau finally more clearly explained that the fear going around is that if they say "no, this wasn't intended to be a rape scene, the camerawork was utterly screwed up" - people will accuse them of rape denial. Which begs the question...why not re-edit and rerelease the scene, as they did when President Bush's head was mounted on a spike in the Season 1 finale? Well worth watching is the Oxford Union panel video (45 minutes in), when a fan directly asks in a live Q&A, "Why was this a rape scene?": Benioff is caught off guard, visibly waffles around between talking points to avoid the question, and ultimately ends up just ''restating'' the question back at the viewer: "we had Jaime do that in that scene because...we felt that was a thing he would do in that moment". He also tactfully avoided using the world "rape" to describe it. He didn't even try to address her direct question about how odd it was that the next episode, neither one of them reacts as if Cersei just got raped. Increasingly it appears that this was just a camera accident, it ''should'' have been reedited, but Benioff and Weiss are too terrified to admit they made such a careless mistake. For the reasons cited above, the ''Game of Thrones Wiki'' went so far as to judge the scene non-canon, or rather, that there's no possible way Benioff and Weiss intended this as a rape scene, couldn't have given such instructions in the script, and openly calling for HBO to re-edit and re-release the scene (as explained in a [[http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Breaker_of_Chains/Jaime-Cersei_sex_scene 12 page long sub-article]] explaining this conclusion, filled with citations).
16th May '17 1:59:52 AM sayaleviathan
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* ItWasHisSled: The Season 6 finale "The Winds of Winter" gave us a supreme textbook example with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark being Jon's parents]]. [[CaptainObviousReveal The fandom had already figured this out]] ''[[CaptainObviousReveal years]]'' [[CaptainObviousReveal ago]].
14th May '17 4:57:56 PM NightShade96
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* HostilityOnTheSet: Creator/JeromeFlynn (Bronn) and Creator/LenaHeadey (Queen Cersei) were in a relationship that did not end well. ''At all''. The result is that the two are never on the set at the same time in order to prevent any hostility from occurring.
11th May '17 11:44:20 AM JamesAustin
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** Creator/aPilouAsbaek, who will be playing Euron Greyjoy from 2016 on, essentially looks like his on-screen nephew Creator/AlfieAllen with fuller cheeks.

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** Creator/aPilouAsbaek, Creator/PilouAsbaek, who will be playing Euron Greyjoy from 2016 on, essentially looks like his on-screen nephew Creator/AlfieAllen with fuller cheeks.
11th May '17 11:40:54 AM JamesAustin
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* AdaptationalContextChange: Many many instances, some as a result of the transition from the literary to television medium, and others as a result of stylistic choices. The most drastic changes however come in Season 5 and Season 6.
** In "Battle of the Bastards", Jon declares he's defeated worse than Ramsay Bolton, prompting Sansa to insist he doesn't know Ramsay. In a preview of ''The Winds of Winter'', it's Stannis and Theon who have this exchange, but where Jon proceeds by [[CommanderContrarian unsuccessfully]] asking for a better strategy, Stannis answers, "[[BadassBoast No more than he knows me]]," and moments later [[WhamEpisode seizes]] TheMole in his camp, nullifying the Boltons' main ace-in-the-hole.

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* ActorAllusion:
** In the Season 1 episode "Baelor," Cersei whispers [[Film/ThreeHundred "This is madness"]] to Joffrey.
** In the Season 3 episode "And Now His Watch Is Ended," Diana Rigg reverts to her natural Yorkshire accent to say "Winter is coming."
** In the Season 5 episode "The House of Black and White," Cersei refers to Margaery as "that smirking whore from Highgarden". Natalie Dormer, the actress playing Margaery, is known for her signature smirk when smiling. According to Dormer, the smirk is due to her asymmetrical mouth and she's not actually intentionally smirking.
** Melisandre cutting Jon Snow's hair in preparation for his resurrection in the Season 6 episode "Home" alludes to Creator/KitHarington having a contractually obligated mandate that he not cut his hair for the duration of the show.
* AdaptationalContextChange: Many Many, many instances, some as a result of the transition from the literary to television medium, and others as a result of stylistic choices. The most drastic changes however come in Season 5 and Season 6.
** In
6. One example is in "Battle of the Bastards", where Jon declares he's defeated worse than Ramsay Bolton, prompting Sansa to insist he doesn't know Ramsay. In a preview of ''The Winds of Winter'', it's Stannis and Theon who have this exchange, but where Jon proceeds by [[CommanderContrarian unsuccessfully]] asking for a better strategy, Stannis answers, "[[BadassBoast No more than he knows me]]," and moments later [[WhamEpisode seizes]] TheMole in his camp, nullifying the Boltons' main ace-in-the-hole.



** Creator/JeromeFlynn also got several chances to display his singing abilities. Many fans are actually hoping for a full version of "The Dornishman's wife".

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** Creator/JeromeFlynn also enjoyed a bit of chart success back in TheNineties as part of acting/singing double-act Robson and Jerome, so he got several chances to display his singing abilities. Many abilities, such as in the Season 5 episode "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" where he gets to sing the start of "The Dornishman's Wife" (before Jaime tells him to shut up). oMany fans are actually hoping for a full version of "The Dornishman's wife".Wife".



** The scene of Jon Snow facing down a cavalry charge all alone in "Battle of the Bastards" was dangerous to shoot because the horses were real.



* FandomNod:
** In the Season 2 episode "Garden of Bones":
*** The "who would beat who" conversation at the beginning of the episode is a common discussion topic amongst fans.
*** The discussion of how to pronounce Qarth is something that has been discussed by fans, amongst other pronunciation questions. It is kind of questionable how the characters managed to have this problem, since they've ''only heard it out loud''.
** Both of the pit fights in Mereen in the Season 5 episode "The Dance of Dragons" are essentially another nod to the fandom's endless "Who would win in a fight?" debates. Hizdahr and Daario's discussion of MightyGlacier vs. FragileSpeedster in the episode essentially parallels arguments about the fight between Oberyn and the Mountain from Season 4. Similarly, a fandom argument that has been running for over a decade gets some kindling when we see Westerosi knight Jorah fight a Bravoosi water dancer in the pit - mirroring the offscreen fight between Syrio Forel and Meryn Trant (in the same episode he returns, no less).
** Season 6's "The Winds of Winter" finally solves one of, if not the most popular, theory of both the books and the series. The "Frey Pie" scene is also adapted in said episode.



** Tyrion "The Kingslapper", due to his habit of bitchslapping Joffrey. Also, Joffrey being slapped by Tyrion is called being "Imp-slapped".
*** Joffrey himself is sometimes called [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers King Justin Bieber]].

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** Joffrey is sometimes called [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers King Justin Bieber]].
** Tyrion "The Kingslapper", due to his habit of bitchslapping Joffrey. Also, Joffrey being slapped by Tyrion is called being "Imp-slapped".
*** Joffrey himself is sometimes called [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers King Justin Bieber]].
"Imp-slapped".



** The "[[Music/SpiceGirls Spice]] Snakes" for the Sand Snakes who are seen as TheScrappy for trying too hard evoke the [[DarkActionGirl Dark Action Girls]] vibes and failing to be Oberyn [[{{Expy}} expies]]. Specifically, Obara is [[PerpetualFrowner "Grumpy Spice"]], Nymeria is [[FlatCharacter "Boring Spice"]], and Tyene Sand is called "Bad Pussy", no thanks to [[NeverLiveItDown her infamous line]] in "Mother's Mercy".
*** Altenatively, they were also called as "Xena rejects" due to their FightSceneFailure in "Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken" which several reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess''

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** The "[[Music/SpiceGirls Spice]] Snakes" for the Sand Snakes who are seen as TheScrappy for trying too hard evoke the [[DarkActionGirl Dark {{Dark Action Girls]] Girl}}s vibes and failing to be Oberyn [[{{Expy}} expies]]. Specifically, Obara is [[PerpetualFrowner "Grumpy Spice"]], Nymeria is [[FlatCharacter "Boring Spice"]], and Tyene Sand is called "Bad Pussy", no thanks to [[NeverLiveItDown her infamous line]] in "Mother's Mercy".
***
Mercy". Altenatively, they were also called as "Xena rejects" due to their FightSceneFailure in "Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken" which several reviewers compared it to ''Series/XenaWarriorPrincess''



* FlipFlopOfGod: Ask three different creators (director, actor, writer) whether Jaime and Cersei having sex in the Great Sept in the fourth season episode "Breaker of Chains" was meant to be rape, consensual, or [[QuestionableConsent some murky and disturbing gray area in between]], and you'll get three different answers. Ask the same creator twice and you might get two.

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* FlipFlopOfGod: Ask three different creators (director, actor, writer) whether Jaime and Cersei having sex in the Great Sept in the fourth season episode "Breaker of Chains" was meant to be rape, consensual, or [[QuestionableConsent some murky and disturbing gray area in between]], and you'll get three different answers. Ask the same creator twice and you might get two. Just prior to the Season 5 premiere, things started to become more clear. Both of the actors involved, when directly asked, outright stated in interviews that they didn't play it as a rape scene and nonconsensual, ''nor'' were they instructed to (i.e. it couldn't have been in the script they received). Alex Graves keep putting his foot in his mouth, but in the longer interview he gave with Vulture.com, he directly stated that he didn't intend it to be rape either - ''nor'' did the writers tell him to. When staff writer Bryan Cogman was asked (who didn't write this episode), he got really nervous and instead said he can't speak for Benioff and Weiss at all. Coster-Waldau finally more clearly explained that the fear going around is that if they say "no, this wasn't intended to be a rape scene, the camerawork was utterly screwed up" - people will accuse them of rape denial. Which begs the question...why not re-edit and rerelease the scene, as they did when President Bush's head was mounted on a spike in the Season 1 finale? Well worth watching is the Oxford Union panel video (45 minutes in), when a fan directly asks in a live Q&A, "Why was this a rape scene?": Benioff is caught off guard, visibly waffles around between talking points to avoid the question, and ultimately ends up just ''restating'' the question back at the viewer: "we had Jaime do that in that scene because...we felt that was a thing he would do in that moment". He also tactfully avoided using the world "rape" to describe it. He didn't even try to address her direct question about how odd it was that the next episode, neither one of them reacts as if Cersei just got raped. Increasingly it appears that this was just a camera accident, it ''should'' have been reedited, but Benioff and Weiss are too terrified to admit they made such a careless mistake. For the reasons cited above, the ''Game of Thrones Wiki'' went so far as to judge the scene non-canon, or rather, that there's no possible way Benioff and Weiss intended this as a rape scene, couldn't have given such instructions in the script, and openly calling for HBO to re-edit and re-release the scene (as explained in a [[http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Breaker_of_Chains/Jaime-Cersei_sex_scene 12 page long sub-article]] explaining this conclusion, filled with citations).



* HighSchoolAU[=/=]AffectionateParody: ''WebVideo/SchoolOfThrones''
* HypotheticalCasting: Several actors were fan favourites before their casting was announced, such as Creator/PeterDinklage and Creator/SeanBean. Fewer examples remain for characters likely to appear, but Creator/MadsMikkelsen as Euron Greyjoy was a particular dream of the book-reader fanbase, so were [[spoiler:Creator/KatieMcGrath, Creator/LilyCollins, Jessica Brown Findlay, or Kaya Scodelario as Lyanna Stark (in the flashbacks).]]

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* HighSchoolAU[=/=]AffectionateParody: ''WebVideo/SchoolOfThrones''
* HypotheticalCasting: Several actors were fan favourites before their casting was announced, such as Creator/PeterDinklage and Creator/SeanBean. Fewer examples remain for characters likely to appear, but Creator/MadsMikkelsen as Euron Greyjoy was a particular dream of the book-reader fanbase, so were [[spoiler:Creator/KatieMcGrath, Creator/KatieMcGrath, Creator/LilyCollins, Jessica Brown Findlay, or Kaya Scodelario as Lyanna [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark (in the flashbacks).]]



** [[spoiler: Melisandre brings Jon Snow back to life.]]

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** [[spoiler: Melisandre [[spoiler:Melisandre brings Jon Snow back to life.]]



** The biggest and the most known of all theories since the release of ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'', confirmed in the season 6 finale, is that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother, and also that the promise Ned made was to take care of Jon. Rhaegar is strongly implied to be his father, but this is not explicitly mentioned. Note that knowledge of Jon's mother's identity was what got David Benioff and Dan Weiss the job adapting the series in the first place.]]
*** [[spoiler:[[AllThereInTheManual Official supplemental material]] for the show [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160629193851/http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/got-connections-ned-promise-tower-of-joy-infographic confirms]] that Rhaegar is Jon's father. You can relax now.]]
** Another series 6 finale example, which was no doubt less welcome, is that [[spoiler:Creator/NatalieDormer had made comments that incited people to speculate that Margaery Tyrell would soon be killed off. This indeed occurred in the season 6 finale.]] And since [[spoiler:Finn Jones has been cast as the title character in ''Series/IronFist2017'', Loras would also be a goner for sure.]]

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** In the second trailer for Season Six, many fans correctly guessed when Tormund said, "I thought he was the man to lead us through the Long Night. But I was wrong.", he was talking about Mance Rayder instead of Jon. This is proven right in "Battle of the Bastards."
** Rickon's death in "Battle of the Bastards" was correctly predicted by most fans. Many also guessed that either Wun Wun or Tormund will die.
** In the Season 6 finale "The Winds of Winter":
***
The biggest and the most known of all theories since the release of ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'', confirmed in the season 6 finale, is ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'' was confirmed, that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother, and also that the promise Ned made was to take care of Jon. Rhaegar is strongly implied to be his father, but this is not explicitly mentioned. Note that knowledge of Jon's mother's identity was what got David Benioff and Dan Weiss the job adapting the series in the first place.]]
*** [[spoiler:[[AllThereInTheManual
[[AllThereInTheManual Official supplemental material]] for the show [[https://web.archive.org/web/20160629193851/http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/got-connections-ned-promise-tower-of-joy-infographic confirms]] that Rhaegar is Jon's father. You can relax now.]]
** *** Another series 6 finale example, which was no doubt less welcome, is that [[spoiler:Creator/NatalieDormer had made comments that incited people to speculate that Margaery Tyrell would soon be killed off. This indeed occurred in the season 6 finale.]] And since [[spoiler:Finn Jones has been cast as the title character in ''Series/IronFist2017'', ''Series/{{Iron Fist|2017}}'', Loras would also be a goner for sure.]]]]
*** Subverted with Tommen's death. While a lot of people predicted he might go out in the finale, or at least sometime before his mother, most did ''not'' expect it to be via suicide.
*** It has been a fairly popular fan theory that Cersei would use the wildfire caches that the Mad King left behind. This is finally made good on when she sets a cache of it to go off underneath the Great Sept of Baelor during the scheduled time for her trial, taking every one of her political adversaries with it.



* ItWasHisSled: The Season 6 finale "The Winds of Winter" gave us a supreme textbook example with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark being Jon's parents]]. [[CaptainObviousReveal The fandom had already figured this out]] ''[[CaptainObviousReveal years]]'' [[CaptainObviousReveal ago]].
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** In the Season 6 episode "No One":
*** Beric Dondarrion is alive and the Brotherhood hasn't turned into a group of {{Knight Templar}}s (they're having trouble with rogue members though). This should be more than enough to confirm that Lady Stoneheart has definitely been AdaptedOut. While WordOfGod had already confirmed this many times over, plenty of fans still weren't convinced.
*** With the abolition of TrialByCombat, it looks like there will be no [[FanNickname Cleganebowl]] for us, at least not in the way fans had assumed...
*** A popular theory stating that [[TomatoIntheMirror Arya and the Waif are actually the same person]] was gaining momentum for some time, serving as explanation for both acting out-of-character in the previous two episodes and it was believed to be "Jaqen"'s secret test to see if Arya was truly ready to become no-one. With the Waif's death at Arya's hands and her departure from Braavos, this theory ended up going nowhere.
** In the Season 6 episode "Battle of the Bastards":
*** There were those optimistic that [[HesJustHiding Shaggydog wasn't really killed by the Umbers]] and they were only faking their allegiance to Ramsay, so they could turn on him later during the battle. The evidence to support this theory to are: the head presented to them was too small to belong to Shaggywolf and Smalljon's immense dislike of Ramsay. These hopes were dashed with Rickon's death and Smalljon being killed in action.
*** If the complete lack of a bump months after Sansa's escape didn't convince fans yet, with her epic "All of you will disappear" speech towards Ramsay she more or less debunked all {{Pregnancy Scare}}s involving her. Either that, or she intends to figuratively mainline [[FantasyContraception Moon]] [[AllThereInTheManual Tea]] to ensure this, now that she has regular access to a maester. Some fans are still hanging on to it due to Ramsay's "part of you forever" line, even though, y'know, it's Sansa and not Ramsay who's likely to know if she's pregnant or not.
** In the Season 6 finale "The Winds of Winter":
*** Whatever gambit Margaery had planned like many fans expected ''literally'' goes up in flames when she gets caught in the crossfire of the Great Sept explosion.
*** Despite being an open secret already, there were those who felt that Tommen being the High Sparrow's PuppetKing would eventually lead to his heritage being undeniably revealed to the public. They both die before the episode's end.
*** The theory about Sansa trying to undermine Jon's claim to Winterfell based on her secret pact with Littlefinger gets shut down - she apologizes to Jon, tells Baelish to go fuck himself and is visibly content with Jon being declared King in the North, as it puts a spanner in Baelish's creepy plans. With that said, WordOfGod claims that she is at the very least unhappy that she wasn't properly rewarded following Jon's coronation so who knows where this might lead.
*** Was the High Sparrow secretly a SinisterMinister feigning humility and righteousness in order to pursue his own ambitions for power, or was he really a GoodShepherd who genuinely wanted to do right? We will never know.



** According to DVDCommentary, Creator/NikolajCosterWaldau ([[JerkAss Jaime Lannister]], called "[[TheOathbreaker Kingslayer]]") and Creator/JackGleeson ([[RoyalBrat Joffrey Baratheon]])... Although Ser Jaime ''is'' a more sympathetic character than he initially seems (and becomes better as the story progresses), which compares him to Joffrey ''very'' positively... his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment first major scene]] has him [[WouldHurtAChild push a child out a window with the intent to kill]] because the boy [[HeKnowsTooMuch saw him shagging his sister]] - Waldau of course would never do something like that.

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** According to DVDCommentary, Creator/NikolajCosterWaldau ([[JerkAss ([[{{Jerkass}} Jaime Lannister]], called "[[TheOathbreaker Kingslayer]]") and Creator/JackGleeson ([[RoyalBrat Joffrey Baratheon]])... Although Ser Jaime ''is'' a more sympathetic character than he initially seems (and becomes better as the story progresses), which compares him to Joffrey ''very'' positively... his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment first major scene]] has him [[WouldHurtAChild push a child out a window with the intent to kill]] because the boy [[HeKnowsTooMuch saw him shagging his sister]] - Waldau of course would never do something like that.



** Creator/CharlesDance finds Lord Tywin's ''appalling'' treatment of his son ''awful''. He remarks that it's hard for him to mistreat a nice man like Creator/PeterDinklage.

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** Creator/CharlesDance finds Lord Tywin's ''appalling'' "appalling" treatment of his son ''awful''."awful". He remarks that it's hard for him to mistreat a nice man like Creator/PeterDinklage.



* MeaningfulReleaseDate: It's probably no small coincidence that the Season 6 episode "Battle of the Bastards," an episode about bastard sons, [[{{Irony}} gets released on Father's Day]].



** Conan Stevens only had one appearance as Gregor Clegane in the first season before leaving the series to appear as Azog the Pale Orc in ''Film/TheHobbit''[[note]]On which he ironically was TheOtherDarrin 'ed again.[[/note]]. He's replaced by former basketball player Ian Whyte in the second season. Apart from their height, the two actors look nothing alike, not to mention that Stevens is quite husky, while Whyte is much thinner. Quite a few people seem to have missed the fact that he was supposed to be the Mountain. The Mountain gets recast again in Season 4, where he is played by Icelandic strongman, Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson (who is considered to ''at least'' be superior to Whyte, and generally a strong substitute for Stevens).

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** Conan Stevens only had one appearance as Gregor Clegane in the first season before leaving the series to appear as Azog the Pale Orc in ''Film/TheHobbit''[[note]]On ''Film/TheHobbit''.[[note]]On which he ironically was TheOtherDarrin 'ed again.[[/note]]. [[/note]] He's replaced by former basketball player Ian Whyte in the second season. Apart from their height, the two actors look nothing alike, not to mention that Stevens is quite husky, while Whyte is much thinner. Quite a few people seem to have missed the fact that he was supposed to be the Mountain. The Mountain gets recast again in Season 4, where he is played by Icelandic strongman, Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson (who is considered to ''at least'' be superior to Whyte, and generally a strong substitute for Stevens).



** Michiel Huisman replaces Ed Skrein as Daario Naharis in Season 4. The two look almost nothing alike.

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** [[http://www.bustle.com/articles/19185-what-happened-to-game-of-thrones-daario-naharis-why-the-actor-changed-for-season-4 Michiel Huisman replaces Ed Skrein as Daario Naharis in Season 4. 4]], starting in the season premiere "Two Swords." The two look almost nothing alike.alike (Huisman's Daario is weird-bearded and short-haired, while Skrein's Daario is clean-shaven and lengthy-locked).



** The show's 2013 April Fool's joke was a fake announcement that Peter Dinklage would be replaced by Warwick Davis to make Tyrion a more "comedic" character. The showrunners also claimed that they would digitally transfer Davis' face over Dinklage's in reruns and subsequent DVD releases.
* OvertookTheManga: As of the fourth season in 2014, ''Game of Thrones'' is coming dangerously close to overtaking the novels. While there are still two hefty novels left before the show runs out of material, both of those books occur at the same time and several characters have already started to dip into the storylines from those novels. Creator/GeorgeRRMartin has given the show's writers a detailed explanation of events in the final two novels, as the writers and producers have made it clear they will not and cannot stop and wait for Martin to catch up. The Season 4 episode ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS4E4Oathkeeper Oathkeeper]]'' is the first to feature a major revelation before the novels: the final scene [[spoiler:reveals the Others/White Walkers have a society and hierarchy, that they create new Others/White Walkers by transforming human babies, and that they are led by the Night's King, an evil figure from Westeros mythology who was not previously confirmed to actually exist]]. Martin got himself into some hot water at the same time by giving a few interviews where he appeared convinced that he could finish the series in time for the show to adapt it, which he later clarified was "pie-in-the-sky" wishful thinking. He is also foregoing writing an episode for season 5 so he can focus more on the books.
** At this point, the general consensus seems to be that, if nothing else, the fans just want Book 6 to be finished before the show catches up - which may just happen (to an extent at least), as certain storylines from Books 4 and 5 look like they'll take up to Season 6 to complete since they have potentially too ''much'' material to cram into a single season's worth of storylines, and some storylines (like the majority of the Iron Islands plot, and part of Jon Snow's Book 3 narrative) are coming ''after'' the books they appeared in; on the flipside, stories like Bran and Brienne's have dipped into the Book 4/5 plots due to [[PacingProblems catching up to the end of Book 3, well before the main narratives for that novel were completed]]. All in all, it's a mixed bag.

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** The show's 2013 April Fool's joke was a fake announcement that Peter Dinklage would be replaced by Warwick Davis to make Tyrion a more "comedic" character. The showrunners also claimed character and that they would digitally transfer Davis' face would be digitally transfered over Dinklage's in reruns and subsequent DVD releases.
* OvertookTheManga: OvertookTheManga:
**
As of the fourth season in 2014, ''Game of Thrones'' is coming dangerously close to overtaking the novels. While there are still two hefty novels left before the show runs out of material, both of those books occur at the same time and several characters have already started to dip into the storylines from those novels. Creator/GeorgeRRMartin has given the show's writers a detailed explanation of events in the final two novels, as the writers and producers have made it clear they will not and cannot stop and wait for Martin to catch up. The Season 4 episode ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS4E4Oathkeeper Oathkeeper]]'' "[[Recap/GameOfThronesS4E4Oathkeeper Oathkeeper]]" is the first to feature a major revelation before the novels: the final scene [[spoiler:reveals the Others/White Walkers have a society and hierarchy, that they create new Others/White Walkers by transforming human babies, and that they are led by the Night's King, an evil figure from Westeros mythology who was not previously confirmed to actually exist]]. Martin got himself into some hot water at the same time by giving a few interviews where he appeared convinced that he could finish the series in time for the show to adapt it, which he later clarified was "pie-in-the-sky" wishful thinking. He is also foregoing writing an episode for season 5 so he can focus more on the books.
** The Season 5 "Hardhome" proved to be an axiomatic example of this:
*** A minor but specific case. In the books, it's been speculated by several characters whether Valyrian steel could be used against the Others, as Sam finds a reference to "dragonsteel" being lethal to them. This episode has Jon kill a White Walker with Longclaw, confirming this theory long before the book does.
*** Tyrion and Daenerys have not yet met in the books (they are slated to in ''The Winds of Winter'').
*** With the exception of the Arya and Cersei scenes, every other scene from the episode either has yet to happen in the books or diverges significantly. Making this effectively the first "new" episode for fans of the novels.
***
At this point, the general consensus seems to be that, if nothing else, the fans just want Book 6 to be finished before the show catches up - which may just happen (to an extent at least), as certain storylines from Books 4 and 5 look like they'll take up to Season 6 to complete since they have potentially too ''much'' material to cram into a single season's worth of storylines, and some storylines (like the majority of the Iron Islands plot, and part of Jon Snow's Book 3 narrative) are coming ''after'' the books they appeared in; on the flipside, stories like Bran and Brienne's have dipped into the Book 4/5 plots due to [[PacingProblems catching up to the end of Book 3, well before the main narratives for that novel were completed]]. All in all, it's a mixed bag.



** The other issue is that the Show has AdaptedOut several key characters and plotlines and according to Martin, these are all very important in the later books. So overall the show is a CompressedAdaptation, true to the first three books, but gradually becoming a loose adaptation and as both Martin and the Showrunners have noted that as a result of the change in the context, the butterfly effect of distillation and changes to several characters personalities, the show has drastically diverged from the books (from Book 4 onwards) and will continue to diverge from how the remaining volumes turn out, so aside from WordOfDante confirmations[[note]]such as the showrunners confirming on promo interviews that certain events, [[spoiler:such as Shireen's HumanSacrifice and Hodor's name being Hold the Door]].[[/note]] it remains up in the air how much the show relates the trajectory of characters and events of the final books.

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** The other issue is that the Show has AdaptedOut several key characters and plotlines and according to Martin, these are all very important in the later books. So overall the show is a CompressedAdaptation, true to the first three books, but gradually becoming a loose adaptation and as both Martin and the Showrunners showrunners have noted that as a result of the change in the context, the butterfly effect of distillation and changes to several characters personalities, the show has drastically diverged from the books (from Book 4 onwards) and will continue to diverge from how the remaining volumes turn out, so aside from WordOfDante confirmations[[note]]such as the showrunners confirming on promo interviews that certain events, [[spoiler:such as Shireen's HumanSacrifice and Hodor's name being Hold the Door]].[[/note]] it remains up in the air how much the show relates the trajectory of characters and events of the final books.books.
** The Season 6 finale cements that we are entering the end of the series and adapting plot from the books is no longer an option: Daenerys is finally on the move, King's Landing's scheming is over, Arya is back in Westeros and the North is bracing themselves for the war. On a minor note, it may have overtaken the books in revealing House Frey's words. It is implied during the feast the words are "We stand together."



** Although Bronn, at least in the TV adaptation, would have likely had a couple (though not many) of interactions with Cersei, the two are never shown on screen together [[note]]A Season 3 episode shows Bronn and Cersei at the same time, but Bronn is only seen from behind once Cersei enters the scene, indicating it's a FakeShemp. To date, this was the only scene where the two characters are together.[[/note]]. This is apparently because the two actors (Creator/LenaHeadey and Creator/JeromeFlynn) dated at one point and the relationship ended in very ugly fashion - so ugly that the showrunners have made it a point to keep the two away from each other on set.

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** Although Bronn, at least in the TV adaptation, would have likely had a couple (though not many) of interactions with Cersei, the two are never shown on screen together together.[[note]]A Season 3 episode shows Bronn and Cersei at the same time, but Bronn is only seen from behind once Cersei enters the scene, indicating it's a FakeShemp. To date, this was the only scene where the two characters are together.[[/note]]. [[/note]] This is apparently because the two actors (Creator/LenaHeadey and Creator/JeromeFlynn) dated at one point and the relationship ended in very ugly fashion - so ugly that the showrunners have made it a point to keep the two away from each other on set.



* RetroactiveRecognition: The Season 3 episode "And Now His Watch Is Ended" features the first main glimpse of Burn Gorman as Karl Tanner. Although he isn't referred to be name in the episode; he plays a key role in it, by instigating the mutiny through killing Craster, which then leads to Jeor Mormont's death soon after.



** Pilou Asbæk, who will be playing Euron Greyjoy from 2016 on, essentially looks like his on-screen nephew Creator/AlfieAllen with fuller cheeks.

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** Pilou Asbæk, Creator/aPilouAsbaek, who will be playing Euron Greyjoy from 2016 on, essentially looks like his on-screen nephew Creator/AlfieAllen with fuller cheeks.



** As if to add insult to injury to those expecting Lady Stoneheart after the Season 6 episode "No One" seemed to have {{Jossed}} it for good, in the episode the Hound also takes a piss into the river where Catelyn's body would have been found.
** Even through the Season 6 finale is well-known for revealing (or just confirming what was already assumed) that [[spoiler:Lyanna Stark is Jon's mother]], it still didn't reveal one detail: Whatever Lyanna said Jon's birth name was, it was muted, and the subtitles didn't caption that line, meaning that an entire new forest of EpilepticTrees is about to be planted.



* TropeNamers: [[http://cultural-learnings.com/2011/05/29/game-of-thrones-you-win-or-you-die/ A review]] of ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E7YouWinOrYouDie You Win or You Die]]'' gave us {{Sexposition}}, in reference to the series' tendency to combine sex scenes and important {{exposition}}.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Owing to budget and/or practicality, various things were considered but adapted out.

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* TropeNamers: [[http://cultural-learnings.com/2011/05/29/game-of-thrones-you-win-or-you-die/ A review]] of ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E7YouWinOrYouDie "[[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E7YouWinOrYouDie You Win or You Die]]'' Die]]" gave us {{Sexposition}}, in reference to the series' tendency to combine sex scenes and important {{exposition}}.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Owing to budget and/or practicality, various things were considered but adapted out.



** Creator/PeterJackson's Weta Workshop actually offered to help animate the Battle of Blackwater. Sadly, Creator/GeorgeRRMartin politely declined their offer, as they wanted to avoid creating, or even being ''perceived'' to create, [[FollowTheLeader a second]] [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Battle of Helm's Deep]].



** Apparently Creator/AlexanderSiddig was contracted for [[http://winteriscoming.net/2016/09/22/alexander-siddig-talks-secrecy-game-thrones/ four episodes in Season 6]]. But the plans were changed during production for some unclear reasons. Siddig didn't know the reason for this but he took the changes professionally. But whatever the original plan is, it might have salvaged the much maligned Dorne arc.

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** Apparently Creator/AlexanderSiddig was contracted for [[http://winteriscoming.net/2016/09/22/alexander-siddig-talks-secrecy-game-thrones/ four episodes in Season 6]]. But 6]], but the plans were changed during production for some unclear reasons. Siddig didn't know the reason for this but he took the changes professionally. But whatever Whatever the original plan is, it might have salvaged the much maligned Dorne arc. arc.
** In the Season 6 episode "The Door":
*** According to the actors, they shot an unused scene for this episode in which Sansa [[ShipperOnDeck teases Brienne about her new Wildling admirer]].
*** Hodor's death was indended to be even more brutal. Luckily, the writers decided that the scene was emotionally jarring as it is.
** In the Season 6 episode "Battle of the Bastards":
*** The director wanted to give Ramsay's death the AlasPoorVillain treatment, but luckily Benioff and Weiss talked some sense into him, since no one could possibly buy it.
*** Ghost was supposed to appear in the episode and fight alongside Jon, but he was cut due to budget concerns. Specifically, the mile of red tape surrounding importing the endangered white wolf who serves as the non-CG version of Ghost from it's native Canada.



* WorkingTitle: The Season 3 episode "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" went through a lot. Martin's original title was "Autumn Rains," as every scene was written with drenching downpours. When this turned out to be beyond the budget, he switched to "Chains," as both a metaphor for several characters' situations plus literally referring to the gold chain Tyrion gives Shae. Finally, when some scenes were switched around between episodes and the one with the bear ended up in this one, "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" became the obvious choice.



** One direct example is when the showrunners in promos for Season 5 and Season 6, specifically mention that certain drastic scenes which had nothing remotely similar in the published books [[spoiler:Shireen dying by HumanSacrifice and Hodor's origin]] were spoilers from the upcoming books that the author shared with them.[[note]]Readers of the books note that the former event is impossible in the context of the end of Literature/ADanceWithDragons [[spoiler:since Stannis is miles away from Shireen and both of them are in the middle of chaotic events at the Wall and Winterfell respectively, and Stannis' is reported as being either missing or dead. So that implies that the event would happen much later in the final books and as a result of the showrunners' spoilers, proves that Stannis in the books would triumph at Winterfell]], in sharp contrast to the DeathByAdaptation in the show[[/note]].

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** One direct example is when the showrunners in promos for Season 5 and Season 6, specifically mention that certain drastic scenes which had nothing remotely similar in the published books [[spoiler:Shireen dying by HumanSacrifice and Hodor's origin]] were spoilers from the upcoming books that the author shared with them.[[note]]Readers of the books note that the former event is impossible in the context of the end of Literature/ADanceWithDragons [[spoiler:since Stannis is miles away from Shireen and both of them are in the middle of chaotic events at the Wall and Winterfell respectively, and Stannis' is reported as being either missing or dead. So that implies that the event would happen much later in the final books and as a result of the showrunners' spoilers, proves that Stannis in the books would triumph at Winterfell]], in sharp contrast to the DeathByAdaptation in the show[[/note]].show[[/note]]


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* WordOfGod: Because of the, seemingly, vague nature of their deaths, the director and showrunners later came out to clarify that both Stannis and Myrcella Baratheon did indeed get killed in the Season 5 episode "Mother's Mercy."
* WordOfSaintPaul:
** Kristian Nairn clarified that Hodor was not being warged in his final moments in "The Door" and made his HeroicSacrifice of his own free will, describing his last thoughts as being happy that Bran and Meera would survive.
** According to Creator/KitHarington, Jon's pummeling Ramsay into the ground in "Battle of the Bastards" was supposed to make the audience fear for his sanity, and worry that their hero was becoming a monster. However, Ramsay was such a vile character that the ''actual'' audience reaction was not so much "Don't become that which you hate!" and more "Don't stop! He's still breathing!"
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** Shireen is introduced when she see her singing. Kerry Ingram is a musical theater star.

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** Shireen is introduced when she see her singing. Kerry Ingram is a musical theater star.
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