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* ThrowItIn: Snake Eyes' iconic all black figure came about because Hasbro needed to lower the tooling budget, so they just didn't paint the one ninja figure and named him Snake Eyes. [[EnsembleDarkhorse He very quickly became the most popular character of the toyline.]]
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* TheWikiRule: Joepedia, the [[http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Joepedia_-_The_G.I._Joe_Wiki G.I. Joe Wiki]].

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* TheWikiRule: Joepedia, the [[http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Joepedia_-_The_G.I._Joe_Wiki G.I. Joe Wiki]].
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* ExecutiveMeddling: A good example. When the Joes' toyline was created, there were originally no villains. Marvel asked about who they are supposed to be fighting. This is when Cobra was created. Because GI Joe was a more reality based war-themed toyline (as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy), Hasbro was very reluctant to create villain characters based on real life enemies of America in order to discourage children's play based on an AcceptableTargets iteration of CowboysAndIndians. So they created Cobra as a motley crew of terrorists with no stated nationality or politics other than wanting to rule the world.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: A good example. When the Joes' toyline was created, there were originally no villains. Marvel asked about who they are supposed to be fighting. This is when Cobra was created. Because GI Joe was a more reality based war-themed toyline (as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy), Hasbro was very reluctant to create villain characters based on real life enemies of America in order to discourage children's play based on an AcceptableTargets iteration of CowboysAndIndians. So they created Cobra as a motley crew of terrorists with no stated nationality or politics other than wanting to rule the world.
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* AccidentallyCorrectWriting: The five part pilot “The M.A.S.S. Device” features at one point both GI Joe and COBRA attempting to collect “heavy water” from a sea floor pool. Surprisingly, such pools are [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brine_pool real]], and contain hypersaline solutions which could reasonably be called heavy water. It seems unlikely the writers were aware of them.
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* NamesTheSame: Vypra with a pair of twins who were introduced some six years later.

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** ''Fanfic/BoldoresAndBoomsticks'': Casey tells Gladion that his overdramatic speech about how he plans to crush her, Blake, and Yang makes him sound like Arbok[[note]]Arbok is a Videogame/{{Pokemon}} that looks like a giant cobra[[/note]] Admiral's understudy.
** An episode of ''WesternAnimation/DennisTheMenace (1986)'' is titled "G.I. George".
** ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': In "Junk Junkies", Rocko needs to raise $500.00 to pay the pizza bill, so he holds a GarageSale. Heffer donates his melted G.I. Jimbo action figure to it, but Rocko worries that nobody is going to buy it. At the end of the episode, [[ChekhovsGag the G.I. Jimbo is bought for $500.00 by an art lover who mistakes it for a sculpture]].
** In the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy", Clary calls Jace an emotionless G.I. Joe.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Stacy Lovell, the creator of and model for Franchise/{{Barbie}} parody [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS5E14LisaVsMalibuStacy Malibu Stacy]], has a string of exes who are all doll/action figure parodies. One of them is named Joe, and looks and behaves exactly like a living G.I. Joe figure.
** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'': When Buzz first learns about [[BigBad Sid Phillips]] from the other toys, Sid is seen blowing up a Combat Carl figure with a firecracker. Originally, Pixar wanted to use the actual G.I. Joe figure in the film, but when Hasbro refused to let them do so, Combat Carl was created as an {{Expy}}.

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** ''Fanfic/BoldoresAndBoomsticks'': Casey tells Gladion that his overdramatic speech about how he plans to crush her, Blake, and Yang makes him sound like Arbok[[note]]Arbok is a Videogame/{{Pokemon}} that looks like a giant cobra[[/note]] Admiral's understudy.
** An episode of ''WesternAnimation/DennisTheMenace (1986)'' is titled "G.I. George".
** ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': In "Junk Junkies", Rocko needs to raise $500.00 to pay the pizza bill, so he holds a GarageSale. Heffer donates his melted G.I. Jimbo action figure to it, but Rocko worries that nobody is going to buy it. At the end of the episode, [[ChekhovsGag the G.I. Jimbo is bought for $500.00 by an art lover who mistakes it for a sculpture]].
** In the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy", Clary calls Jace an emotionless G.I. Joe.
** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Stacy Lovell, the creator of and model for Franchise/{{Barbie}} parody [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS5E14LisaVsMalibuStacy Malibu Stacy]], has a string of exes who are all doll/action figure parodies. One of them is named Joe, and looks and behaves exactly like a living G.I. Joe figure.
** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'': When Buzz first learns about [[BigBad Sid Phillips]] from the other toys, Sid is seen blowing up a Combat Carl figure with a firecracker. Originally, Pixar wanted to use the actual G.I. Joe figure in the film, but when Hasbro refused to let them do so, Combat Carl was created as an {{Expy}}.
ReferencedBy: [[ReferencedBy/GIJoe Has its own page]].
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** An episode of ''WesternAnimation/DennisTheMenace (1986)'' is titled "G.I. George".
** ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': In "Junk Junkies", Rocko needs to raise $500.00 to pay the pizza bill, so he holds a GarageSale. Heffer donates his melted G.I. Jimbo action figure to it, but Rocko worries that nobody is going to buy it. At the end of the episode, [[ChekhovsGag the G.I. Jimbo is bought for $500.00 by an art lover who mistakes it for a sculpture]].


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** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'': When Buzz first learns about [[BigBad Sid Phillips]] from the other toys, Sid is seen blowing up a Combat Carl figure with a firecracker. Originally, Pixar wanted to use the actual G.I. Joe figure in the film, but when Hasbro refused to let them do so, Combat Carl was created as an {{Expy}}.
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** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Stacy Lovell, the creator of and model for Franchise/{{Barbie}} parody [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS5E14LisaVsMalibuStacy Malibu Stacy]], has a string of exes who are all doll/action figure parodies. One of them is named Joe, and looks and behaves exactly like a living G.I. Joe figure.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: A good example. When the Joes' toyline was created, there were originally no villains. Marvel asked about who they are supposed to be fighting. This is when Cobra was created. Because GI Joe was a more reality based war-themed toyline (as opposed to sci-fi or fantasy), Hasbro was very reluctant to create villain characters based on real life enemies of America in order to discourage children's play based on an AcceptableTargets iteration of CowboysAndIndians. So they created Cobra as a motley crew of terrorists with no stated nationality or politics other than wanting to rule the world.

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* ReferencedBy: In the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy", Clary calls Jace an emotionless G.I. Joe.

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** ''Fanfic/BoldoresAndBoomsticks'': Casey tells Gladion that his overdramatic speech about how he plans to crush her, Blake, and Yang makes him sound like Arbok[[note]]Arbok is a Videogame/{{Pokemon}} that looks like a giant cobra[[/note]] Admiral's understudy.
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In the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy", Clary calls Jace an emotionless G.I. Joe.
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Actor Allusion isn't Trivia. Also removing entries that are specifically about the 1980's Real American Hero cartoon, because that version of G.I. Joe has its own article and I'm mighty peeved about people adding trope examples from that show on the trope pages while referring to the show as just "G.I. Joe" with no regard for the fact that it isn't the only G.I. Joe cartoon in existence.


* ActorAllusion: In part 3 of ''Arise Serpentor, Arise'', Cobra Commander remarks, ''"I would have made an excellent stand-up comedian."'' His voice actor, Christopher Latta (aka Collins) had a standup comedy career.
-->'''Chris Collins''': "William Shatner is an actor, and everybody else here is a comedian. But I'm not like them. ...what I am, is ''a psychotic that's learned to market his problem''"--On Caroline's Comedy Hour on A&E in the late 80s.



* OldShame: Buzz Dixon came up with the name "Cobra-La" simply to be a placeholder in his rough draft, and was annoyed when [[ExecutiveMeddling the executives liked it and insisted he keep it]].
--> "Unfortunately, Hasbro fell in love with that concept and name and despite all my efforts stuck with Cobra-La. I apologize to Joe and Hilton fans everywhere; I really, really, REALLY was going to come up with a much better name than that."
** On a more somber note, Dixon (himself a military veteran) has [[http://buzzdixon.com/christianity/how-much-responsibility-do-i-bear/ expressed dismay]] at the thought that the WarIsGlorious nature of the show could have subconsciously fed into U.S. propaganda for UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, justifying situations such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay and any number of military casualties in an effort purported "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to defend human freedom against… a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.]]”
* PermanentPlaceholder: The name of the enemy "Cobra-La" was originally intended as a placeholder, but [[ExecutiveMeddling Hasbro liked the name]], despite the fact the guy who created it disliked it and tried to stop Hasbro from using it in official media.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** In an episode where COBRA hosted a black-market telethon, they were originally going to sing a parody of "We Are The World" entitled [[VillainSong "We Want The World!"]], but for [[OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope whatever]] [[ExecutiveMeddling reason]] this never came to be.
** Before Creator/{{Hasbro}} switched production company to Creator/DiC, Creator/SunbowEntertainment planned a third season of the animated series set after the events of the movie. The premise of the season would have many of the Cobra leaders splitting into different factions, with Tomax and Xamot leading a criminal organization called The Coil while keeping the snake-transformed Cobra Commander as their pet (who would have later regained his human form and reclaimed his leadership of Cobra).
** A sequel to the episode "The Gamesmaster" was cut, resulting in the Gamesmaster becoming a one-shot villain despite swearing revenge during his escape.
** The basic story premise of the 1980s G.I. Joe was originally an idea for a Creator/MarvelComics sequel series for ''[[ComicBook/NickFury Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.]]'' by Larry Hama called ''Fury Force'' where Fury would assemble an elite commando unit for S.H.I.E.L.D.. Marvel wasn't interested in that version, but when Hasbro approached the company about the revived ''G.I. Joe'', they decided that a modified version Hama's proposal would work for them.
** Plans were well underway for [[Franchise/{{Rocky}} Rocky Balboa]] to become a trainer for the team, following in the footsteps of Wrestling/SgtSlaughter and the toy-only [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Refrigerator Perry]], with an action figure well under development, a profile listed in the second issue of Marvel's ''G.I. Joe Order of Battle'', and even an EvilCounterpart named "Big Boa". However, Hasbro wasn't able to secure the rights to use Creator/SylvesterStallone[='s=] likeness before Coleco stepped in and launched a toyline for ''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom'', so the Rocky plan was scrapped, and Marvel ran retractions in the remaining ''Order of Battle'' issues. Big Boa remained, though.
*** In addition to the aborted Rocky Balboa project, Hama created original profiles for prospective Joes that never went into production. Some examples (as seen in the Netflix show ''The Toys That Made Us''):
-->“Cypher”, linguist/translator
-->“Metro”, urban assault specialist
-->“Periscope”, submarine commander [[StevenUlyssesPerhero (real name: Perry S. Kope)]]
-->“Shell-Shock”, demolitions expert
-->“Sparrow”, reconnaissance pilot
-->“Tool Box”, robotics specialist who would have come with his own set of PoweredArmor
** The GI Joe design team wanted to follow ''WesternAnimation/SgtSavageAndHisScreamingEagles'' with a superhero-themed line called ''X-Soldiers''. According to ''Toy Wars'', tepid reactions from focus test groups and delays caused ''X-Soldiers'' to be scrapped, and ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeExtreme'' was designed instead.
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** On a more somber note, Dixon (himself a military veteran) has [[http://buzzdixon.com/christianity/how-much-responsibility-do-i-bear/ expressed dismay]] at the thought that the WarIsGlorious nature of the show could have subconsciously fed into U.S. propaganda for TheWarOnTerror, justifying situations such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay and any number of military casualties in an effort purported "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to defend human freedom against… a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.]]”

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** On a more somber note, Dixon (himself a military veteran) has [[http://buzzdixon.com/christianity/how-much-responsibility-do-i-bear/ expressed dismay]] at the thought that the WarIsGlorious nature of the show could have subconsciously fed into U.S. propaganda for TheWarOnTerror, UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, justifying situations such as Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay and any number of military casualties in an effort purported "[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to defend human freedom against… a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world.]]”
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-->“Periscope”, submarine commander [[StephenUlyssesPerhero (real name: Perry S. Kope)]]

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* TheWikiRule: Joepedia, the [[http://gijoe.wikia.com/wiki/Joepedia_-_The_G.I._Joe_Wiki G.I. Joe Wiki]].
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*** In addition to the aborted Rocky Balboa project, Hama created original profiles for prospective Joes that never went into production. Some examples (as seen in the Netflix show ''The Toys That Made Us''):
-->“Cypher”, linguist/translator
-->“Metro”, urban assault specialist
-->“Periscope”, submarine commander [[StephenUlyssesPerhero (real name: Perry S. Kope)]]
-->“Shell-Shock”, demolitions expert
-->“Sparrow”, reconnaissance pilot
-->“Tool Box”, robotics specialist who would have come with his own set of PoweredArmor
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** The GI Joe design team wanted to follow ''Sgt. Savage and his Screaming Eagles'' with a superhero-themed line called ''X-Soldiers''. According to ''Toy Wars'', tepid reactions from focus test groups and delays caused ''X-Soldiers'' to be scrapped, and ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeExtreme'' was designed instead.

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** The GI Joe design team wanted to follow ''Sgt. Savage and his Screaming Eagles'' ''WesternAnimation/SgtSavageAndHisScreamingEagles'' with a superhero-themed line called ''X-Soldiers''. According to ''Toy Wars'', tepid reactions from focus test groups and delays caused ''X-Soldiers'' to be scrapped, and ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeExtreme'' was designed instead.
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** The GI Joe design team wanted to follow ''Sgt. Savage and his Screaming Eagles'' with a superhero-themed line called ''X-Soldiers''. According to ''Toy Wars'', tepid reactions from focus test groups and delays caused ''X-Soldiers'' to be scrapped, and ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeExtreme'' was designed instead.
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** The basic story premise of the 1980s G.I. Joe was originally an idea for a MarvelComics sequel series for ''[[ComicBook/NickFury Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.]]'' by Larry Hama called ''Fury Force'' where Fury would assemble an elite commando unit for S.H.I.E.L.D.. Marvel wasn't interested in that version, but when Hasbro approached the company about the revived ''G.I. Joe'', they decided that a modified version Hama's proposal would work for them.

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** The basic story premise of the 1980s G.I. Joe was originally an idea for a MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics sequel series for ''[[ComicBook/NickFury Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.]]'' by Larry Hama called ''Fury Force'' where Fury would assemble an elite commando unit for S.H.I.E.L.D.. Marvel wasn't interested in that version, but when Hasbro approached the company about the revived ''G.I. Joe'', they decided that a modified version Hama's proposal would work for them.
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** Plans were well underway for [[Film/{{Rocky}} Rocky Balboa]] to become a trainer for the team, following in the footsteps of Wrestling/SgtSlaughter and the toy-only [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Refrigerator Perry]], with an action figure well under development, a profile listed in the second issue of Marvel's ''G.I. Joe Order of Battle'', and even an EvilCounterpart named "Big Boa". However, Hasbro wasn't able to secure the rights to use Creator/SylvesterStallone[='s=] likeness before Coleco stepped in and launched a toyline for ''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom'', so the Rocky plan was scrapped, and Marvel ran retractions in the remaining ''Order of Battle'' issues. Big Boa remained, though.

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** Plans were well underway for [[Film/{{Rocky}} [[Franchise/{{Rocky}} Rocky Balboa]] to become a trainer for the team, following in the footsteps of Wrestling/SgtSlaughter and the toy-only [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Refrigerator Perry]], with an action figure well under development, a profile listed in the second issue of Marvel's ''G.I. Joe Order of Battle'', and even an EvilCounterpart named "Big Boa". However, Hasbro wasn't able to secure the rights to use Creator/SylvesterStallone[='s=] likeness before Coleco stepped in and launched a toyline for ''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom'', so the Rocky plan was scrapped, and Marvel ran retractions in the remaining ''Order of Battle'' issues. Big Boa remained, though.
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Hey Its That Guy cut by TRS decision. Ditto for Hey Its That Voice.


* HeyItsThatVoice: Chris Latta voices both Cobra Commander and Starscream, and exactly the same way, other than Cobra Commander [[SnakeTalk hissing]] after an "s" or sometimes a "c". Other than that, they are the ssssame. (This later led to a semi-cameo in the ''Transformers'' episode "Only Human", one of the most solid links between the two franchises.)
** In ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeResolute'', Creator/CharlieAdler does Cobra Commander (and he also did Starscream, the the ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' film series).
*** Nor are they the only ones to voice both Starscream and Cobra Commander, Creator/MichaelDobson voiced [[Anime/TransformersArmada The]] [[Anime/TransformersEnergon Unicron]] [[Anime/TransformersCybertron Trilogy]]'s Starscream and Cobra Commander in the ''Spy Troops'' and ''Venom VS. Valor'' movies. However, Creator/MarcThompson (Cobra Commander in ''[[WesternAnimation/GIJoeSigma6 Sigma 6]]''), Creator/TomKenny (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''), Creator/SteveBlum (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'') Creator/SamRiegel (Starscream in ''VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron''), and [=Doug Parker=] (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'') avert the trend.
** Burgess Meredith did the voice for Golobulus in the animated movie.
** VoiceActors in the original series include Creator/MichaelBell, Creator/FrankWelker, Creator/RobPaulsen, Creator/PeterCullen and Creator/PatFraley. In the 1991 series, Creator/MauriceLaMarche played Destro.
** The DIC series had Creator/ScottMcNeil use his [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Rattrap]]/[[Anime/GundamWing Duo Maxwell]] voice for Freefall and Lt. Falcon.
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** Plans were well underway for [[Film/{{Rocky}} Rocky Balboa]] to become a trainer for the team, following in the footsteps of Wrestling/SgtSlaughter and the toy-only [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Refrigerator Perry]], with an action figure well under development, a profile listed in the second issue of Marvel's ''G.I. Joe Order of Battle'', and even an EvilCounterpart named "Big Boa". However, Hasbro wasn't able to secure the rights to use ''Creator/SylvesterStallone''[='s=] likeness before Coleco stepped in and launched a toyline for ''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom'', so the Rocky plan was scrapped, and Marvel ran retractions in the remaining ''Order of Battle'' issues. Big Boa remained, though.

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** Plans were well underway for [[Film/{{Rocky}} Rocky Balboa]] to become a trainer for the team, following in the footsteps of Wrestling/SgtSlaughter and the toy-only [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Refrigerator Perry]], with an action figure well under development, a profile listed in the second issue of Marvel's ''G.I. Joe Order of Battle'', and even an EvilCounterpart named "Big Boa". However, Hasbro wasn't able to secure the rights to use ''Creator/SylvesterStallone''[='s=] Creator/SylvesterStallone[='s=] likeness before Coleco stepped in and launched a toyline for ''WesternAnimation/RamboTheForceOfFreedom'', so the Rocky plan was scrapped, and Marvel ran retractions in the remaining ''Order of Battle'' issues. Big Boa remained, though.
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** The DIC series had Creator/ScottMcNeil use his [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Rattrap]]/[[Anime/GundamWing Duo Maxwell]] voice for Freefall and Lt. Falcon.
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* ReferencedBy: In the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "The Descent Into Hell Isn’t Easy", Clary calls Jace an emotionless G.I. Joe.
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*** Nor are they the only ones to voice both Starscream and Cobra Commander, Creator/MichaelDobson voiced [[Anime/TransformersArmada The]] [[Anime/TransformersEnergon Unicron]] [[Anime/TransformersCybertron Trilogy]]'s Starscream and Cobra Commander in the ''Spy Troops'' and ''Venom VS. Valor'' movies. However, Creator/MarcThompson (Cobra Commander in ''[[GIJoeSigma6 Sigma 6]]''), Creator/TomKenny (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''), Creator/SteveBlum (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'') SamRiegel (Starscream in ''TransformersWarForCybertron''), and DougParker (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'') avert the trend.

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*** Nor are they the only ones to voice both Starscream and Cobra Commander, Creator/MichaelDobson voiced [[Anime/TransformersArmada The]] [[Anime/TransformersEnergon Unicron]] [[Anime/TransformersCybertron Trilogy]]'s Starscream and Cobra Commander in the ''Spy Troops'' and ''Venom VS. Valor'' movies. However, Creator/MarcThompson (Cobra Commander in ''[[GIJoeSigma6 ''[[WesternAnimation/GIJoeSigma6 Sigma 6]]''), Creator/TomKenny (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated''), Creator/SteveBlum (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'') SamRiegel Creator/SamRiegel (Starscream in ''TransformersWarForCybertron''), ''VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron''), and DougParker [=Doug Parker=] (Starscream in ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'') avert the trend.
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* PermanentPlaceholder: The name of the enemy "Cobra-La" was originally intended as a placeholder, but [[ExecutiveMeddling Hasbro liked the name]], despite the fact the guy who created it disliked it and tried to stop Hasbro from using it in official media.

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