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* HeAlsoDid: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]][[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.

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* HeAlsoDid: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]][[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' ''Literature/TheMouseAndHisChild'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.
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* {{Bowdlerize}}: The scene where Ma is shafted by Gretchen Fox originally ended with her saying "I'd really appreciate it... If' you'd fall of the dock." after Gretchen was out of earshot. The DVD and most airings edit out the last part.

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* {{Bowdlerize}}: The scene where Ma is shafted by Gretchen Fox originally ended with her saying "I'd really appreciate it... If' If you'd fall of the dock." after Gretchen was out of earshot. The DVD and most airings edit out the last part.
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* DeletedScene: The scene where Emmet and Alice go sliding is cut from the ABC Family airings.

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* DeletedScene: DigitalDestruction: The version of the special that airs on Freeform as well as what was released on DVD in 2017 as the 40th anniversary edition mats the special to 16:9 (widescreen) despite it being filmed in 4:3 (full screen).
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The scene where Emmet and Alice go sliding is was cut from the original ABC Family airings.Family/Freeform airings. Later showings have reinstated it.
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* {{Bowdlerize}}: The scene where Ma is shafted by Gretchen Fox originally ended with her saying "I'd really appreciate it... If' you'd fall of the dock." after Gretchen was out of earshot. The DVD and most airings edit out the last part.
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Other than the first VHS release, all the other ones also leave out Kermit's narrating (although the Kermit intro was kept until Disney came along).


* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video; however Kermit's voice over narration was edited out.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video; however Kermit's voice over narration was (still) edited out.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video.

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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video.video; however Kermit's voice over narration was edited out.
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* KeepTheTapesCirculating: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video.

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* KeepTheTapesCirculating: KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video.
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* KeepTheTapesCirculating: The only way to see the Kermit version since Disney bought the Muppets ..... until 2017, when a deal was finally worked out so Sony could release it on video.
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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform (which at the time was still using the ABC Family name) being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it (albeit with DigitalDestruction), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform (which at the time was still using the ABC Family name) being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it (albeit with DigitalDestruction), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).



* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen on television for years until a [[DigitalDestruction poor-quality version of it]] was shown on ABC Family/Freeform (a Disney subsidiary) as part of their annual holiday block, ''25 Days of Christmas''.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen on television for years until it[[note]]or a [[DigitalDestruction poor-quality faux film-riddled version of it]] thereof]][[/note]] was shown on Disney-owned ABC Family/Freeform (a Disney subsidiary) as part of their annual holiday block, ''25 Days of Christmas''.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to [[DigitalDestruction "air"]] the special as part of The 25 Days of Christmas.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen on television for years until ABC Family decided to a [[DigitalDestruction "air"]] the special poor-quality version of it]] was shown on ABC Family/Freeform (a Disney subsidiary) as part of The 25 their annual holiday block, ''25 Days of Christmas.Christmas''.

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Crowner called for removing Hey, It's That Voice/Guy examples from trivia pages: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1454613823001793300&page=4#89


* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''Series/FraggleRock'' and The Count on ''Series/SesameStreet'' (after Jerry passed away he was constantly linked to the latter).
** Though he sounds more like [[Series/TheMuppetShow Robin]] in this one.
** In addition to Jerry, most of the familiar Muppet performers are here: Frank Oz (best known as Fozzie and Miss Piggy), David Goelz (best known as Gonzo), Richard Hunt (best known as Scooter) and of course, Creator/JimHenson.
* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]][[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''Series/FraggleRock'' and The Count on ''Series/SesameStreet'' (after Jerry passed away he was constantly linked to the latter).
** Though he sounds more like [[Series/TheMuppetShow Robin]] in this one.
** In addition to Jerry, most of the familiar Muppet performers are here: Frank Oz (best known as Fozzie and Miss Piggy), David Goelz (best known as Gonzo), Richard Hunt (best known as Scooter) and of course, Creator/JimHenson.
* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]:
HeAlsoDid: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]][[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.
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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it (albeit with DigitalDestruction), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform (which at the time was still using the ABC Family name) being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it (albeit with DigitalDestruction), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).
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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it, the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform being the first North American network since Canada's YTV to air it, it (albeit with DigitalDestruction), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).
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* DeletedScene: The scene where Emmet and Alice go sliding is cut from the ABC Family airings.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to [[DigitalDestruction "air"]] the special as part of 25 Days of Christmas.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to [[DigitalDestruction "air"]] the special as part of The 25 Days of Christmas.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to air on ABC Family as part of 25 Days of Christmas.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to air on ABC Family [[DigitalDestruction "air"]] the special as part of 25 Days of Christmas.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to air on ABC Family as part of 25 Days of Christmas.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit.Kermit when they released the special on home video. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to air on ABC Family as part of 25 Days of Christmas.
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to Disney buying the Muppets, the Jim Henson Company had to edit out Kermit. The uncut version wasn't seen until ABC Family decided to air on ABC Family as part of 25 Days of Christmas.
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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with Canadian children's network YTV being the last known network in North America to air the special, the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't has rarely been seen on TV since 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with Canadian children's network YTV [[strike:ABC Family]] Freeform being the last known first North American network in North America since Canada's YTV to air the special, it, the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.

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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]].Frances"]][[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.
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** Though he sounds more like [[TheMuppetShow Robin]] in this one.

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** Though he sounds more like [[TheMuppetShow [[Series/TheMuppetShow Robin]] in this one.
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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been regularly seen on TV since the early 2000's or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been regularly seen on TV since the early 2000's 2003 or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), with Canadian children's network YTV being the last known network in North America to air the special, the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).
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* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''FraggleRock'' and The Count on ''Series/SesameStreet'' (after Jerry passed away he was constantly linked to the latter).

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''FraggleRock'' ''Series/FraggleRock'' and The Count on ''Series/SesameStreet'' (after Jerry passed away he was constantly linked to the latter).
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* * BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been regularly seen on TV since the early 2000's or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* * BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been regularly seen on TV since the early 2000's or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).

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* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''FraggleRock''.

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* * BreakawayPopHit: While the special hasn't been regularly seen on TV since the early 2000's or so (though the Kermit-less version has seen DVD release in recent years), the song "When The River Meets The Sea" is still fairly recognizable to those unfamiliar with the special itself ([[CoveredUp thanks to John Denver's version]]).
* HeyItsThatVoice: Emmet's voice actor is Jerry Nelson, best known as Gobo on ''FraggleRock''.''FraggleRock'' and The Count on ''Series/SesameStreet'' (after Jerry passed away he was constantly linked to the latter).



** In addition to Jerry Nelson, most of the familiar Muppet performers are here: Frank Oz (best known as Fozzie and Miss Piggy), David Goelz (best known as Gonzo), Richard Hunt (best known as Scooter) and Jim Henson, of course.

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** In addition to Jerry Nelson, Jerry, most of the familiar Muppet performers are here: Frank Oz (best known as Fozzie and Miss Piggy), David Goelz (best known as Gonzo), Richard Hunt (best known as Scooter) and Jim Henson, of course.course, Creator/JimHenson.



** Which incidentally got [[HilariousInHindsight adapted into a]] [[http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Frances short-form TV series]] by the Jim Henson Company in 2008.

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** Which ''Frances'' incidentally got [[HilariousInHindsight adapted into a]] [[http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Frances short-form TV series]] by the Jim Henson Company in 2008.
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]].

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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]]. Those who know Hoban best by his works aimed at adults or ''The Mouse and His Child'' are often startled to realize it's the same author.
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** Which incidentally got [[HilariousInHindsight adapted into a]] [[http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Frances short-form TV series]] by the Jim Henson Company in 2008.
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeTitle "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]].

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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeTitle [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeNaming "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]].
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's Those Authors]]: Russell and Lilian Hoban, the authors of the original book are perhaps better known for the "Frances the Badger" series of books[[note]]Whose titles usually took the form of [[IdiosyncraticEpisodeTitle "_ for Frances"]].[[/note]].
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** Though he sounds more like [[TheMuppetShow Robin]] in this one.
** In addition to Jerry Nelson, most of the familiar Muppet performers are here: Frank Oz (best known as Fozzie and Miss Piggy), David Goelz (best known as Gonzo), Richard Hunt (best known as Scooter) and Jim Henson, of course.

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