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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There are a few things that are know to have appear have Second Edition carried on a little longer.
** ''Scroll of the Monks Volume 2 Scattered Lotus Petals'' was announced at {{GenCon}} 2011, with a targer released date of November 2012, but Exalted Third Edition was announced in July 2012 so this book was cancelled.
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** They also have a Dark Mother, like the Beasts of ''BeastThePrimordial''.

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** They also have a Dark Mother, like the Beasts of ''BeastThePrimordial''.''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial''.
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** The actual ''development'' also suffered severe setbacks. For starters, one of the leading devs was plagued by persistent health issues and another quit outright. This was absolutely not helped by the ...''abrasive'' attitude they seemed to hold toward the fans; immediate examples include their initial position on the Abyssal "rape charms" ("It's not 'hold her down and stick it in' rape," later ''somewhat'' revised and apologized-for) and the return of the much-reviled [[ScrappyMechanic Bonus Points system for character generation]] ("We have a policy to not give people bad rules just because they think they want them"), persistent issues over writers leaving or claiming they weren't getting paid for their work, plagiarized art, and several areas that [[RunningTheAsylum generally reflected their attitudes to the game]] that the fans weren't happy with.

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** The actual ''development'' also suffered severe setbacks. For starters, one of the leading devs was plagued by persistent health issues and another quit outright. This was absolutely not helped by the ...the... ''abrasive'' attitude they seemed to hold toward the fans; immediate examples include their initial position on the Abyssal "rape charms" ("It's not 'hold her down and stick it in' rape," later ''somewhat'' revised and apologized-for) and the return of the much-reviled [[ScrappyMechanic Bonus Points system for character generation]] ("We have a policy to not give people bad rules just because they think they want them"), persistent issues over writers leaving or claiming they weren't getting paid for their work, plagiarized art, and several areas that [[RunningTheAsylum generally reflected their attitudes to the game]] that the fans weren't happy with.
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** Many of the authors for "Masters of Jade," went well over the wordcount limit, without being paid for the additional words, just to make the product as awesome as possible. The general--albeit not universal--consensus is that they succeeded.

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** Many of the authors for "Masters of Jade," Jade" went well over the wordcount limit, without being paid for the additional words, just to make the product as awesome as possible. The general--albeit not universal--consensus is that they succeeded.



* ShoutOut:''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. Some shared terminology, such as Stygia or Neverborn, also shows up across ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], thanks to the [=nWOD's=] inheritance of some [=oWOD=] terms.

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* ShoutOut:''Exalted'' ShoutOut: ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. Some shared terminology, such as Stygia or Neverborn, also shows up across ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], thanks to the [=nWOD's=] inheritance of some [=oWOD=] terms.
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* DoingItForTheArt:
** The (former) Ink Monkeys have a lot of enthusiasm for the game. And all the Ink Monkey material was written up for free. Although it has been discontinued as the writers are now the line developers--and now have a production schedule of paying work for the line--it did a good job of keeping interest and enthusiasm, both positive and negative, up.
** Many of the authors for "Masters of Jade," went well over the wordcount limit, without being paid for the additional words, just to make the product as awesome as possible. The general--albeit not universal--consensus is that they succeeded.


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* MoneyDearBoy: Revealed to be the reason why the Ink Monkeys stopped making new material -- they got greenlit to actually be paid for things.
* NamesTheSame: Just to be clear: the Void that afflicts Autochthon isn't the same Void as Oblivion. Autochthon's Void is a manifestation of his [[FanNickname robo-cancer]].
* OldShame: ''Scroll of the Monk'' and the much-reviled Void Avatar Prana for Ink Monkey Dean Shomshak.
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** After the agonizing delays for the Third Edition books, fans started calling the series Exalted: the Waiting.
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** The actual ''development'' also suffered severe setbacks. For starters, one of the leading devs was plagued by persistent health issues and another quit outright. This was absolutely not helped by the ...''abrasive'' attitude they seemed to hold toward the fans; immediate examples include their initial position on the Abyssal "rape charms" ("It's not 'hold her down and stick it in' rape") and the return of the much-reviled[[ScrappyMechanic chargen Bonus Points]] ("We have a policy to not give people bad rules just because they think they want them"), persistent issues over writiers leaving or claiming they weren't getting paid for their work, plagiarised art, and several areas that [[RunningTheAsylum generally reflected their attitudes to the game]] that the fans weren't happy with.
*** This only intensified when the backer PDF was released, only to reveal that almost ''nothing'' had changed from a leaked work-in-progress copy that had found its way onto the Internet most of a year earlier. Said backer PDF also contained a great many basic errors that should have been caught by something as basic as a ''spell checker'', strange issues with the formatting, and fostered a general dissatisfaction with a number of mechanics that the devs adamantly refused to change. [[note]]Craft, in particular, but Socialise and Performance were commonly cited as following on from that.[[/note]]
*** The backer PDF also spotlighted why having ProtectionFromEditors [[TropesAreNotGood is not always the best thing]], as the Charms chapter is commonly considered to be overly-long, bloated with unneccasary 'dice trick' charms that do little but make the players and Storyteller do more work (One obvious example is the Melee Charm Rising Sun Slash, which does nothing ''unless the player rolls a straight''), after having made a point of removing the majority of 2nd Edition's additional 'dice tricks' in the Infinite Masteries and Second/Third Excellencies. Craft, Brawl, Lore, and Socialise all have 48+ Charms, which basically everyone agrees is far more than is really neccasary[[note]]To elaborate, a starting Solar could put all their chargen Charms into Craft, spend all their bonus points on Craft Charms, ''buy nothing but Craft Charms until they naturally reach Essence 5'', and ''still'' have not bought all of the Craft Charms[[/note]] and are often the first targets of anyone homebrewing different systems. Ultimately, it's considered to be a very good example of what happens when a very wordy writer gets to be immune to being very firmly told "No".
** This culminated in April of 2017, a ''year'' after the release of 3rd Edition, when both Holden and Morke, the remaining lead developers were summarily replaced by Eric Minton and Robert Vance. [[note]]Almost immedately after being instated, the pair almost incidentally revealed gaping holes in material that was assumed to be nearing completion- while the exact situation remains ambiguous, it can probably be safely assumed that Morke and Holden's project development talents are not neccesarily equal to their writing skills.[[/note]]

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** The actual ''development'' also suffered severe setbacks. For starters, one of the leading devs was plagued by persistent health issues and another quit outright. This was absolutely not helped by the ...''abrasive'' attitude they seemed to hold toward the fans; immediate examples include their initial position on the Abyssal "rape charms" ("It's not 'hold her down and stick it in' rape") rape," later ''somewhat'' revised and apologized-for) and the return of the much-reviled[[ScrappyMechanic chargen much-reviled [[ScrappyMechanic Bonus Points]] Points system for character generation]] ("We have a policy to not give people bad rules just because they think they want them"), persistent issues over writiers writers leaving or claiming they weren't getting paid for their work, plagiarised plagiarized art, and several areas that [[RunningTheAsylum generally reflected their attitudes to the game]] that the fans weren't happy with.
*** This only intensified when the backer PDF was released, only to reveal that almost ''nothing'' had changed from a leaked work-in-progress copy that had found its way onto the Internet most of a year earlier. Said backer PDF also contained a great many basic errors that should have been caught by something as basic as a ''spell checker'', strange issues with the formatting, and fostered a general dissatisfaction with a number of mechanics that the devs adamantly refused to change. [[note]]Craft, in particular, is seen as poorly-designed, but Socialise Socialize and Performance were commonly cited as following on from that.are also oft-criticized.[[/note]]
*** The backer PDF also spotlighted why having ProtectionFromEditors [[TropesAreNotGood is not always the best thing]], as the Charms chapter is commonly considered to be overly-long, bloated with unneccasary unnecessary 'dice trick' charms that do little but make the players and Storyteller do more work (One (one obvious example is the Melee Charm Rising Sun Slash, which does nothing ''unless the player rolls a straight''), after having made a point of removing the majority of 2nd Edition's additional 'dice tricks' in the Infinite Masteries and Second/Third Excellencies. Craft, Brawl, Lore, and Socialise Socialize all have 48+ Charms, which basically everyone agrees is far more than is really neccasary[[note]]To necessary[[note]]To elaborate, a starting Solar could put all their chargen Charms into Craft, spend all their bonus points on Craft Charms, ''buy nothing but Craft Charms until they naturally reach Essence 5'', and ''still'' have not bought all of the Craft Charms[[/note]] and are often the first targets of anyone homebrewing different systems. Ultimately, it's considered to be a very good example of what happens when a very wordy writer gets to be immune to being very firmly told "No".
** This culminated in April of 2017, a ''year'' after the release of 3rd Edition, when both Holden and Morke, the remaining lead developers developers, were summarily replaced by Eric Minton and Robert Vance. [[note]]Almost immedately Almost immediately after being instated, the pair almost incidentally revealed gaping holes in material that was assumed to be nearing completion- completion - while the exact situation remains ambiguous, it can probably be safely assumed that Morke and Holden's project development talents are not neccesarily necessarily equal to their writing skills.[[/note]]
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* TroubledProduction: 3rd Edition, ''very much so''.
** To start with, the massive runaway success of the Kickstarter immediately lead to the book's expected length ''doubling'', and pushed back the expected release by quite a lot, [[BrokenBase which annoyed quite a lot of fans]].
** The actual ''development'' also suffered severe setbacks. For starters, one of the leading devs was plagued by persistent health issues and another quit outright. This was absolutely not helped by the ...''abrasive'' attitude they seemed to hold toward the fans; immediate examples include their initial position on the Abyssal "rape charms" ("It's not 'hold her down and stick it in' rape") and the return of the much-reviled[[ScrappyMechanic chargen Bonus Points]] ("We have a policy to not give people bad rules just because they think they want them"), persistent issues over writiers leaving or claiming they weren't getting paid for their work, plagiarised art, and several areas that [[RunningTheAsylum generally reflected their attitudes to the game]] that the fans weren't happy with.
*** This only intensified when the backer PDF was released, only to reveal that almost ''nothing'' had changed from a leaked work-in-progress copy that had found its way onto the Internet most of a year earlier. Said backer PDF also contained a great many basic errors that should have been caught by something as basic as a ''spell checker'', strange issues with the formatting, and fostered a general dissatisfaction with a number of mechanics that the devs adamantly refused to change. [[note]]Craft, in particular, but Socialise and Performance were commonly cited as following on from that.[[/note]]
*** The backer PDF also spotlighted why having ProtectionFromEditors [[TropesAreNotGood is not always the best thing]], as the Charms chapter is commonly considered to be overly-long, bloated with unneccasary 'dice trick' charms that do little but make the players and Storyteller do more work (One obvious example is the Melee Charm Rising Sun Slash, which does nothing ''unless the player rolls a straight''), after having made a point of removing the majority of 2nd Edition's additional 'dice tricks' in the Infinite Masteries and Second/Third Excellencies. Craft, Brawl, Lore, and Socialise all have 48+ Charms, which basically everyone agrees is far more than is really neccasary[[note]]To elaborate, a starting Solar could put all their chargen Charms into Craft, spend all their bonus points on Craft Charms, ''buy nothing but Craft Charms until they naturally reach Essence 5'', and ''still'' have not bought all of the Craft Charms[[/note]] and are often the first targets of anyone homebrewing different systems. Ultimately, it's considered to be a very good example of what happens when a very wordy writer gets to be immune to being very firmly told "No".
** This culminated in April of 2017, a ''year'' after the release of 3rd Edition, when both Holden and Morke, the remaining lead developers were summarily replaced by Eric Minton and Robert Vance. [[note]]Almost immedately after being instated, the pair almost incidentally revealed gaping holes in material that was assumed to be nearing completion- while the exact situation remains ambiguous, it can probably be safely assumed that Morke and Holden's project development talents are not neccesarily equal to their writing skills.[[/note]]
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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel".'' [[DontExplainTheJoke It either means "There's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]

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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; page: ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel".'' [[DontExplainTheJoke It either means "There's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]



* In 1st Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd Edition to avoid that confusion.
* A few NWOD-specific references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.

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* ** In 1st Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd Edition to avoid that confusion.
* ** A few NWOD-specific references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.
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** [[http://meluran.deviantart.com/art/DEMETHEMANIA-comic-53379022 DEMETHEMANIA]]: Demetheus, a big, burly Dawn Caste fighter. In his back story, he wrestled giant lions with his bare hands and won; thus a {{Badass}} was born. He was also visibly inspired by The Rock.

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** [[http://meluran.deviantart.com/art/DEMETHEMANIA-comic-53379022 DEMETHEMANIA]]: Demetheus, a big, burly Dawn Caste fighter. In his back story, he wrestled giant lions with his bare hands and won; thus a {{Badass}} badass was born. He was also visibly inspired by The Rock.
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* WordOfGod: One of each of the sample characters in the First Edition Castebooks is deliberately a depiction of what the Immaculate Order claims the Solar Exalted to be. Most of the time, it's fairly obvious, as they're either obviously evil (Havesh for Night, Fehim for Twilight), insane (Mirror Flag for Eclipse), or both (Looking at you, Dawn Caste Lyta.) The Blasphemous Zenith, on the other hand, is Wind, who is easily one of the kinder, more level-headed NPC's we've been shown...and he's also a former Immaculate Monk-turned-devout-sun-priest.

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* WordOfGod: One of each of the sample characters in the First Edition Castebooks is deliberately a depiction of what the Immaculate Order claims the Solar Exalted to be. Most of the time, it's fairly obvious, as they're either obviously evil (Havesh for Night, Fehim for Twilight), insane (Mirror Flag for Eclipse), or both (Looking (looking at you, Dawn Caste Lyta.) The Blasphemous Zenith, on the other hand, is Wind, who is easily one of the kinder, more level-headed NPC's we've been shown... and he's also a former Immaculate Monk-turned-devout-sun-priest.
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** They also have Dark Mother, like the Beasts of ''BeastThePrimordial''.

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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. Some shared terminology, such as Stygia or Neverborn, also shows up across ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], thanks to the [=nWOD's=] inheritance of some [=oWOD=] terms.
** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Terrestrial Exalted - ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.
** Other shared ideas include:
*** Malfeas - home of the ''Werewolf'' BigBad.
*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers.
*** The Deathlords and the Neverborn - both prominent in ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'', though (typically) working on opposite sides of the divide there.
*** The Dragon Kings - remembered by the Mokolé from ''Werewolf''.
*** Autochthonia - one of the ''Mage'' Technocracy's favorite places.
*** In the optional metaplot of ''Return of The Scarlet Empress'', the Ebon Dragon creates an enormous infernal artifact. The name of this artifact: [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse the Black Spiral]].
** Although showing up much later, the Green Sun Princes use much of the same terminology as ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' (Torment, the names of their castes).
* In 1st Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd Edition to avoid that confusion.
* A few NWOD-specific references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.


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* ShoutOut:''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. Some shared terminology, such as Stygia or Neverborn, also shows up across ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], thanks to the [=nWOD's=] inheritance of some [=oWOD=] terms.
** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Terrestrial Exalted - ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.
** Other shared ideas include:
*** Malfeas - home of the ''Werewolf'' BigBad.
*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers.
*** The Deathlords and the Neverborn - both prominent in ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'', though (typically) working on opposite sides of the divide there.
*** The Dragon Kings - remembered by the Mokolé from ''Werewolf''.
*** Autochthonia - one of the ''Mage'' Technocracy's favorite places.
*** In the optional metaplot of ''Return of The Scarlet Empress'', the Ebon Dragon creates an enormous infernal artifact. The name of this artifact: [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse the Black Spiral]].
** Although showing up much later, the Green Sun Princes use much of the same terminology as ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' (Torment, the names of their castes).
* In 1st Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd Edition to avoid that confusion.
* A few NWOD-specific references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.
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** Chejop Kejak: "Ketchup Carjack"
** The First and Forsaken Lion is more commonly referred to as the [=FaFL=].
** The Primordial She Who Lives in Her Name is almost universally referred to by her acronym, [=SWLiHN=]; one of the authors even bemoaned having to use her full name when writing ''Infernals'', since it wasted so much wordcount. And of course, many just call her [[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swillin Swillin']]
** Gazellecarp: The capstone charm of the Dreaming Pearl Courtesan Style transforms your character into a serpentine chimera whose features include a head like a gazelle foal and multiple carp fins down the sides.
** [[http://meluran.deviantart.com/art/DEMETHEMANIA-comic-53379022 DEMETHEMANIA]]: Demetheus, a big, burly Dawn Caste fighter. In his back story, he wrestled giant lions with his bare hands and won; thus a {{Badass}} was born. He was also visibly inspired by The Rock.
** The signature Malefactor, wearer of the rather ''interesting'' take on a nun's habit, is referred to alternately as Hellnun or Bondage Nun. ([[AllThereInTheManual Her real name is Sulumor, by the way.]])
** "Her Redness" and "Big Red" for the Scarlet Empress.
** The Primordial Ramethus, who attacked in the Aftershock War (having optimized itself for combat), is frequently referred to (even by the game's freelance writers on the White Wolf forums) as Chungira: named after Jon Chung, who posts a lot about Exalted optimization.
** Even after receiving both a pre-ascension name (Sol Incarnate) and title of address (Ignis Divine, his equivalent of 'your majesty'), a large portion of the fan-base still prefers to call the Unconquered Sun "Sol Invictus." Even John Mørke has admitted to wanting to use the term, in spite of being forbidden from canonizing it (in Glories of the Most High: the Unconquered Sun). Some who favor it do so because a Latin name would help Sol fit in better with all the other Incarnae... others cite that as an excellent reason not to use it. The Sun does, after all, stand apart from the Moon and stars.
** The Unconquered Sun is also occasionally called "Conky."
** The complete loser of a Primordial known as The Ebon Dragon sometimes has his name shortened to TED.
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* RunningTheAsylum: In a case of TropesAreNotBad, the addition of the Ink Monkeys and Errata Team Prime has lead to a general increase in the quality of the rules and has been very well received on the White Wolf forum (seriously, saying you dislike them is FandomHeresy there now)- but see also BrokenBase. They have their detractors, some of whom get as vehement as the fans.
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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.

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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. There are still some similar terms used between Some shared terminology, such as Stygia or Neverborn, also shows up across ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.thanks to the [=nWOD's=] inheritance of some [=oWOD=] terms.



* A few NWOD references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.

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* A few NWOD NWOD-specific references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are inspired by ''Promethean''.
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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.

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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made (in the form of shared terminology and some thematic overlaps) in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.
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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.

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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. Even prior to that, it was specified in the Storyteller's guide to be an optional possible interpretation, not a hard-and-fast fact. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.
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*** In the optional metaplot of ''Return of The Scarlet Empress'', the Ebon Dragon creates an enormous infernal artifact. The name of this artifact: [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse the Black Spiral]].
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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel.'' [[DontExplainTheJoke It either means that there's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or; "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]

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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel.shovel".'' [[DontExplainTheJoke It either means that there's "There's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or; or "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]



** Several version of the Beasts of Resplendent Liquids existed in the First Age, each being biological constructs designed to do the first stage of medicinal processing while requiring minimal effort. Brown ones eat opium and piss heroin, blue ones (the only other ones known to have survived to the present day) eat more exotic plants and piss the main ingredient of anti-aging medicines.

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** Several version versions of the Beasts of Resplendent Liquids existed in the First Age, each being biological constructs designed to do the first stage of medicinal processing while requiring minimal effort. Brown ones eat opium and piss heroin, blue ones (the only other ones known to have survived to the present day) eat more exotic plants and piss the main ingredient of anti-aging medicines.
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* WordOfGod: One of each of the sample characters in the First Edition Castebooks is deliberately a depiction of what the Immaculate Order claims the Solar Exalted to be. Most of the time, it's fairly obvious, as they're either obviously evil (Havesh for Night, Fehim for Twilight), insane (Mirror Flag for Eclipse), or both (Looking at you, Dawn Caste Lyta.) The Blasphemous Zenith, on the other hand, is Wind, who is easily one of the kinder, more level-headed NPC's we've been shown...and he's also a former Immaculate Monk-turned-devout-sun-priest.
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*** Malfeas - home of the ''Werewolf'' BigBad
*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers
*** The Deathlords and the Neverborn - both prominent in ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'', though (typically) working on opposite sides of the divide there
*** The Dragon Kings - remembered by the Mokolé from ''Werewolf''

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*** Malfeas - home of the ''Werewolf'' BigBad
BigBad.
*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers
Messengers.
*** The Deathlords and the Neverborn - both prominent in ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion'', though (typically) working on opposite sides of the divide there
there.
*** The Dragon Kings - remembered by the Mokolé from ''Werewolf''''Werewolf''.
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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel.'' [[DoNotExplainTheJoke It either means that there's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or; "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]

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* Well, we should always start with the joke on the first page; ''As for what they do with that power... well, one of the running themes of Exalted is, "Welcome to Creation, here's your shovel.'' [[DoNotExplainTheJoke [[DontExplainTheJoke It either means that there's a lot of crap to be shoveled in Creation, and it's your job to clean it up, one way or the other." or; "You're digging Creation's deep, dark, grave. Get to work."]]

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* ShoutOut: Lots. 1st Edition especially has a lot to the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' games, and there are shout-outs to pop culture and mythology all over.
** For example, the first place Desus was mentioned by name was in a myth where he [[http://historylink102.com/greece2/odysseus.htm treacherously blinded a one-eyed Behemoth]].
** The chapter 7 comic in the 2nd Edition Core book features an Abyssal talking to a skull who he calls [[WaitingForGodot Estragon. Subsequentally, he meets someone called Pozzo with his pet 'Lucky'.]]
** Each of the original five Exalted types is conceptually related to one ''Old World of Darkness'' game: Solars to ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Terrestrials to ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Lunars to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereals to ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', and Abyssals to ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade''.
** Even outside the above five correspondences, there are many game terms borrowed from the ''Old World of Darkness'' games. For example, the Green Sun Prince Castes share the names of the [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demon Houses]], save for the Devils and Devourers.
** [[KeychainOfCreation Elegant Nova Of Progression]] is an example of an Alchemical name in the new Alchemicals book. [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriguez]] gets mentioned in the index.
** Another Alchemical shout-out is in the name of one of the nations. "[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour We have always been at war with Estasia]]."
** The index to ''Graceful Wicked Masques'' holds a number of sneaky references. For instance, "Bear-killer" (an actual title) is followed by "Pedobear-killer" (and instead of a page number, it says "4chan").
** The introductory comic for "Graceful Wicked Masques" features a Fair Folk cataphract named "Lan-Shoki Hana" with a mortal squire named "San-Xiao." If that doesn't ring any bells, Don Quixote's real name is "Alonso Quijano" and his squire is, of course, "Sancho."
** Gorol is one letter away from being the BigBad in the WraithTheOblivion endgame book (Gorool).
** Sacheverell is a Yozi that they keep asleep so as not to bind fate to his visions; the Red King is kept asleep in ''Literature/AliceInWonderland'' to keep the world from falling apart. Oh, and his previous incarnation was The Lidless Eye That Sees. Imagine a [[Film/LordOfTheRings Visine commercial from Hell]].
** The First Age developer of Primordial Principle Emulation made it to tap into Kimbery's (a giant poisonous acid ocean) charmset because she couldn't learn/make new charms for her new body: a "cephalopod horror," Glories of the Most High tells us. The name of that Solar Queen? [[CthulhuMythos K'tula]].
** The Ebon Dragon's driving Urge, as revealed in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', is to turn the world into one where [[SamuraiJack his evil is law]].
** The section from ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'' about confronting the Ebon Dragon in direct combat is entitled [[DeadAleWives Attacking the Darkness]].
** After destroying the Omphalos in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', The Ebon Dragon has to create an N/A artifact to keep Creation from falling apart into the Wyld. The artifact in question is called [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse The Black Spiral.]]
** Many other scenarios are grouped with thematic names; the Metagalpa section has its acts titled after WWII films, and several scenarios find themselves named after JamesBond films.
** One of the possible campaign styles in Infernals was titled "[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto Grand Theft Yeddim]]."
** The Martial Arts supplement ''Scroll of the Monk'' contains a [[VideoGame/GodOfWar chain daiklave]], and the spread-the-water knife's illustration is not even trying to pretend it isn't a [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration bat'leth]].
** In one of the adventure supplements you have a mayor named Carriker Thurfas. Thurfas is the name of a place in the Scarred Lands (another White Wolf product), which was developed by Joe Carriker.
** In that same adventure there's a subtle nod to the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
** ''[[AlternateUniverse Shards of the Exalted Dream]]'' goes on to describe a [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} green sun with the mass of two universes]].


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* ShoutOut: Lots. 1st Edition especially has a lot to the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' games, and there are shout-outs to pop culture and mythology all over.
** For example, the first place Desus was mentioned by name was in a myth where he [[http://historylink102.com/greece2/odysseus.htm treacherously blinded a one-eyed Behemoth]].
** The chapter 7 comic in the 2nd Edition Core book features an Abyssal talking to a skull who he calls [[WaitingForGodot Estragon. Subsequentally, he meets someone called Pozzo with his pet 'Lucky'.]]
** Each of the original five Exalted types is conceptually related to one ''Old World of Darkness'' game: Solars to ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Terrestrials to ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Lunars to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereals to ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', and Abyssals to ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade''.
** Even outside the above five correspondences, there are many game terms borrowed from the ''Old World of Darkness'' games. For example, the Green Sun Prince Castes share the names of the [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demon Houses]], save for the Devils and Devourers.
** [[KeychainOfCreation Elegant Nova Of Progression]] is an example of an Alchemical name in the new Alchemicals book. [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriguez]] gets mentioned in the index.
** Another Alchemical shout-out is in the name of one of the nations. "[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour We have always been at war with Estasia]]."
** The index to ''Graceful Wicked Masques'' holds a number of sneaky references. For instance, "Bear-killer" (an actual title) is followed by "Pedobear-killer" (and instead of a page number, it says "4chan").
** The introductory comic for "Graceful Wicked Masques" features a Fair Folk cataphract named "Lan-Shoki Hana" with a mortal squire named "San-Xiao." If that doesn't ring any bells, Don Quixote's real name is "Alonso Quijano" and his squire is, of course, "Sancho."
** Gorol is one letter away from being the BigBad in the WraithTheOblivion endgame book (Gorool).
** Sacheverell is a Yozi that they keep asleep so as not to bind fate to his visions; the Red King is kept asleep in ''Literature/AliceInWonderland'' to keep the world from falling apart. Oh, and his previous incarnation was The Lidless Eye That Sees. Imagine a [[Film/LordOfTheRings Visine commercial from Hell]].
** The First Age developer of Primordial Principle Emulation made it to tap into Kimbery's (a giant poisonous acid ocean) charmset because she couldn't learn/make new charms for her new body: a "cephalopod horror," Glories of the Most High tells us. The name of that Solar Queen? [[CthulhuMythos K'tula]].
** The Ebon Dragon's driving Urge, as revealed in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', is to turn the world into one where [[SamuraiJack his evil is law]].
** The section from ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'' about confronting the Ebon Dragon in direct combat is entitled [[DeadAleWives Attacking the Darkness]].
** After destroying the Omphalos in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', The Ebon Dragon has to create an N/A artifact to keep Creation from falling apart into the Wyld. The artifact in question is called [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse The Black Spiral.]]
** Many other scenarios are grouped with thematic names; the Metagalpa section has its acts titled after WWII films, and several scenarios find themselves named after JamesBond films.
** One of the possible campaign styles in Infernals was titled "[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto Grand Theft Yeddim]]."
** The Martial Arts supplement ''Scroll of the Monk'' contains a [[VideoGame/GodOfWar chain daiklave]], and the spread-the-water knife's illustration is not even trying to pretend it isn't a [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration bat'leth]].
** In one of the adventure supplements you have a mayor named Carriker Thurfas. Thurfas is the name of a place in the Scarred Lands (another White Wolf product), which was developed by Joe Carriker.
** In that same adventure there's a subtle nod to the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
** ''[[AlternateUniverse Shards of the Exalted Dream]]'' goes on to describe a [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} green sun with the mass of two universes]].

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* There is country in the East of Creation called the Republic of Chaya, where each and every single person is [[spoiler:'''''infested with magical nanites''''']]. And do you want to know what is even weirder than ''that''? The fact that [[spoiler:it's a ''real'' democracy, not a place where the Exalted rule from behind the scenes and let them mortals think that they have, but a real Republic... with the exception of the [[OddJobGods gods of those magical nanites]], who are the ones who set up the country's Constitution]].

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\n* There is a country in the East of Creation called the Republic of Chaya, where each and every single person is [[spoiler:'''''infested with magical nanites''''']]. And do you want to know what is even weirder than ''that''? The fact that [[spoiler:it's a ''real'' democracy, not a place where the Exalted rule from behind the scenes and let them mortals think that they have, but a real Republic... with the exception of the [[OddJobGods gods of those magical nanites]], who are the ones who set up the country's Constitution]].
Constitution]].




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* ShoutOut: Lots. 1st Edition especially has a lot to the ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' games, and there are shout-outs to pop culture and mythology all over.
** For example, the first place Desus was mentioned by name was in a myth where he [[http://historylink102.com/greece2/odysseus.htm treacherously blinded a one-eyed Behemoth]].
** The chapter 7 comic in the 2nd Edition Core book features an Abyssal talking to a skull who he calls [[WaitingForGodot Estragon. Subsequentally, he meets someone called Pozzo with his pet 'Lucky'.]]
** Each of the original five Exalted types is conceptually related to one ''Old World of Darkness'' game: Solars to ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Terrestrials to ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Lunars to ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereals to ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', and Abyssals to ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade''.
** Even outside the above five correspondences, there are many game terms borrowed from the ''Old World of Darkness'' games. For example, the Green Sun Prince Castes share the names of the [[TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen Demon Houses]], save for the Devils and Devourers.
** [[KeychainOfCreation Elegant Nova Of Progression]] is an example of an Alchemical name in the new Alchemicals book. [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Bender Bending Rodriguez]] gets mentioned in the index.
** Another Alchemical shout-out is in the name of one of the nations. "[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour We have always been at war with Estasia]]."
** The index to ''Graceful Wicked Masques'' holds a number of sneaky references. For instance, "Bear-killer" (an actual title) is followed by "Pedobear-killer" (and instead of a page number, it says "4chan").
** The introductory comic for "Graceful Wicked Masques" features a Fair Folk cataphract named "Lan-Shoki Hana" with a mortal squire named "San-Xiao." If that doesn't ring any bells, Don Quixote's real name is "Alonso Quijano" and his squire is, of course, "Sancho."
** Gorol is one letter away from being the BigBad in the WraithTheOblivion endgame book (Gorool).
** Sacheverell is a Yozi that they keep asleep so as not to bind fate to his visions; the Red King is kept asleep in ''Literature/AliceInWonderland'' to keep the world from falling apart. Oh, and his previous incarnation was The Lidless Eye That Sees. Imagine a [[Film/LordOfTheRings Visine commercial from Hell]].
** The First Age developer of Primordial Principle Emulation made it to tap into Kimbery's (a giant poisonous acid ocean) charmset because she couldn't learn/make new charms for her new body: a "cephalopod horror," Glories of the Most High tells us. The name of that Solar Queen? [[CthulhuMythos K'tula]].
** The Ebon Dragon's driving Urge, as revealed in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', is to turn the world into one where [[SamuraiJack his evil is law]].
** The section from ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'' about confronting the Ebon Dragon in direct combat is entitled [[DeadAleWives Attacking the Darkness]].
** After destroying the Omphalos in ''Return of the Scarlet Empress'', The Ebon Dragon has to create an N/A artifact to keep Creation from falling apart into the Wyld. The artifact in question is called [[TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse The Black Spiral.]]
** Many other scenarios are grouped with thematic names; the Metagalpa section has its acts titled after WWII films, and several scenarios find themselves named after JamesBond films.
** One of the possible campaign styles in Infernals was titled "[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto Grand Theft Yeddim]]."
** The Martial Arts supplement ''Scroll of the Monk'' contains a [[VideoGame/GodOfWar chain daiklave]], and the spread-the-water knife's illustration is not even trying to pretend it isn't a [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration bat'leth]].
** In one of the adventure supplements you have a mayor named Carriker Thurfas. Thurfas is the name of a place in the Scarred Lands (another White Wolf product), which was developed by Joe Carriker.
** In that same adventure there's a subtle nod to the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
** ''[[AlternateUniverse Shards of the Exalted Dream]]'' goes on to describe a [[Webcomic/{{Homestuck}} green sun with the mass of two universes]].

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** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Dragon-Blooded - ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.

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** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Dragon-Blooded Terrestrial Exalted - ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.
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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.
** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Dragon-Blooded - ''Vampire: KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.

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* ''Exalted'' was initially promoted as the prehistory of ''[[TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness The World of Darkness]]'' (the old version), and references to this connection were made in gamebooks of both settings for a while, but the idea was dropped, especially with the 2nd edition Edition of ''Exalted'' and the end of the Old World of Darkness. There are still some similar terms used between ''Exalted'' and the [[TabletopGame/NewWorldOfDarkness new WOD]], like Stygia and Neverborn.
** The parallel groups were: Solar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', Lunar Exalted - ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', Sidereal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'', Abyssal Exalted - ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', Dragon-Blooded - ''Vampire: KindredOfTheEast'', ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', Fair Folk - ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheDreaming''.



*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers

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*** The Scarlet Empress/Queen/Phoenix and the Ebon Dragon - prominent in ''KindredOfTheEast'', ''TabletopGame/KindredOfTheEast'', and, according to some subtle references in ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'' and ''TabletopGame/HunterTheReckoning'', they were the ''Hunter'' Messengers



* In First Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd edition to avoid that confusion.
* A few NWOD references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are basically the Promethean Exalted.

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* In First 1st Edition, the Neverborn were referred to as Malfeans (another term for them from ''TabletopGame/WraithTheOblivion''). This confused people, because you had dead Primordials called MALFEANS and imprisoned (but still very alive) Primordials who lived in MALFEAS. They dropped the Malfean term in 2nd edition Edition to avoid that confusion.
* A few NWOD references have slipped in, too. For instance, the mortal creators of the Alchemicals are known as demiurges (the name for those mortals who create [[TabletopGame/PrometheanTheCreated Prometheans]]), and according to WordOfGod, the Liminal Exalted are basically the Promethean Exalted.

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inspired by ''Promethean''.

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