History Trivia / CitizenKane

21st Apr '16 7:30:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy
** Agnes Moorehead, who appears as Kane's mother, became a longtime character actress who later starred as Endora on ''Series/{{Bewitched}}''.
** Ruth Warrick, Kane's first wife, later became famous to soap opera audiences as Phoebe Tyler on ''AllMyChildren'', a role she played for thirty-five years.
** The great leading man Alan Ladd appears briefly as an extra near the beginning of the film in the projection room and again smoking a pipe near the end.
7th Apr '16 9:20:32 AM AllenbysEyes88
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** Ray Collins (Jim Gettys) enjoyed a prolific career as a Hollywood character actor.
10th Mar '16 11:20:27 AM ParkedCarAnne
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* AcclaimedFlop: Yes, the "Greatest Film of All Time" was a spectacular box office bomb for its time, though eventually it made a profit in repertory screenings and Welles lived off its royalties even when he was down and out in Europe. See CreatorKiller below for more.

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* AcclaimedFlop: Yes, Hard to believe, but the "Greatest Film of All Time" was '''''was''''' a spectacular box office bomb for its time, though eventually it made a profit in repertory screenings and Welles lived off its royalties even when he was down and out in Europe. See CreatorKiller below for more.



* CommonKnowledge: People assume Marion Davies had a bad career, as her expy in the film shows. In fact, Marion Davies was widely considered [[Film/ShowPeople a talented actress and comedienne]], independent of all the publicity Hearst arranged for her. Hearst did push Davies towards melodramatic leading-lady roles. Davies - along with many others - recognized that her real gift was for light comedy. Ironically, Welles and Mankiewicz claimed that they made Susan so talentless to ensure she ''wasn't'' confused with Marion Davies. Instead, the opposite happened.

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* CommonKnowledge: People assume Marion Davies had a bad career, as her expy in the film shows. In fact, Marion Davies was widely considered [[Film/ShowPeople a talented actress and comedienne]], independent of all the publicity Hearst arranged for her. Hearst did push Davies towards melodramatic leading-lady roles. Davies - along with many others - recognized that her real gift was for roles, despite performing better in light comedy. Ironically, Welles and Mankiewicz claimed that they made Susan so talentless to ensure she ''wasn't'' confused with Marion Davies. Instead, the opposite happened.
26th Dec '15 4:33:22 PM nombretomado
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** Likewise, everyone feel that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst.

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** Likewise, everyone feel that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst.
6th Dec '15 3:40:47 AM Aquila89
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* CopiouslyCreditedCreator: Co-written, directed, and starring Welles.

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* CopiouslyCreditedCreator: Co-written, directed, produced and starring Welles.
29th Nov '15 3:00:13 PM AllenbysEyes
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** There's also Kael's claim that Herman Mankiewicz wrote the entire script himself, and that Welles unfairly took credit. Despite [[http://www.popoptiq.com/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/ being thoroughly debunked]] by Robert Carrington, Peter Bogdanovich and others, this argument's still repeated by credulous film buffs.

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** There's also Kael's claim that Herman Mankiewicz wrote the entire script himself, and that Welles unfairly took credit. Despite [[http://www.popoptiq.com/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/ being thoroughly debunked]] by Robert Carrington, L. Carringer, Peter Bogdanovich and others, this argument's still repeated by credulous film buffs.
29th Nov '15 2:58:25 PM AllenbysEyes
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** There's also Kael's claim that Herman Mankiewicz wrote the entire script himself, and that Welles unfairly took sole credit. Despite [[http://www.popoptiq.com/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/ being thoroughly debunked]], this argument's still repeated by credulous film buffs.

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** There's also Kael's claim that Herman Mankiewicz wrote the entire script himself, and that Welles unfairly took sole credit. Despite [[http://www.popoptiq.com/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/ being thoroughly debunked]], debunked]] by Robert Carrington, Peter Bogdanovich and others, this argument's still repeated by credulous film buffs.
29th Nov '15 2:55:28 PM AllenbysEyes
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** Likewise, everyone feel that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst.



** Likewise, everyone feel that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst.

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** Likewise, everyone feel There's also Kael's claim that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended wrote the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic entire script himself, and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst. Welles unfairly took sole credit. Despite [[http://www.popoptiq.com/kael-vs-kane-pauline-kael-orson-welles-authorship-citizen-kane/ being thoroughly debunked]], this argument's still repeated by credulous film buffs.
3rd Nov '15 2:36:21 AM JulianLapostat
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* AcclaimedFlop: Yes, the "Greatest Film of All Time" was a spectacular box office bomb. See CreatorKiller below for more.

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* AcclaimedFlop: Yes, the "Greatest Film of All Time" was a spectacular box office bomb.bomb for its time, though eventually it made a profit in repertory screenings and Welles lived off its royalties even when he was down and out in Europe. See CreatorKiller below for more.


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** Likewise, everyone feel that this film was a satire on Hearst and Hearst alone. In truth, the film was intended to be a general satire and tragedy of the AmericanDream and the resemblances to Hearst came about largely because screenwriter Herman J. Mankiewicz was a regular at Hearst's parties and knew him well. Both he and Welles included details from several American tycoons like Samuel Insull and Howard Hughes in addition to Hearst. Likewise, Welles himself never intended the film to be a TakeThat on Hearst, indeed the drafts of the screenplay credited to him show that it was Welles who made Kane more sympathetic and that the original screenplay was a good deal more anti-Hearst.
4th Oct '15 8:13:56 AM JulianLapostat
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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Orson Welles saw ''Film/ChimesAtMidnight'' as his masterpiece.

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* MagnumOpusDissonance: Orson Welles saw ''Film/ChimesAtMidnight'' as his masterpiece.masterpiece, but that was also driven by people using ''Citizen Kane'' to write him off as a OneBookAuthor, he was generally proud of ''Kane'' and stated that it was his only movie that he's totally satisfied with, having no budget or executive compromises as he did on his other films.
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