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* NamesTheSame:
** Zod shares a surname with a certain [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kryptonian general]].
** One of the Guardians is named Blaster, who shares his name with one of the Autobots from the ''[=GoBots=]''' more successful competitor ''Transformers''.
** The leader of the evil Rock Lords is named [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Magmar]].
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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Creator/PeterCullen, Creator/ArthurBurghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Creator/{{Hasbro}} later bought Tonka, the owner of the ''[=GoBots=]'' toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once the main competitor to the ''Transformers'' franchise.

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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Creator/PeterCullen, Creator/ArthurBurghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Creator/{{Hasbro}} later bought Tonka, the owner of the ''[=GoBots=]'' toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once the main competitor to the ''Transformers'' franchise.franchise, and have retroactively placed ''[=GoBots=]'' as part of the ''Transformers'' multiverse.
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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Creator/PeterCullen, Arthur Burghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Creator/{{Hasbro}} later bought Tonka, the owner of the ''[=GoBots=]'' toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once the main competitor to the ''Transformers'' franchise.

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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Creator/PeterCullen, Arthur Burghardt, Creator/ArthurBurghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Creator/{{Hasbro}} later bought Tonka, the owner of the ''[=GoBots=]'' toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once the main competitor to the ''Transformers'' franchise.
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** The ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' film started out as a much different film. ''[[http://gbwiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Starquest Starquest]]'', which would've been much more integrated with the series' continuity; the Rock Lords had a much smaller role in this draft as well.
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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie in theaters) to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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** The movie being is the last piece missing which missing; Warner Archive did confirm they own it, but that does contain there are clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Atlantic Entertainment Group's Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie in theaters) to be hammered out before making a release can be possible.



* OutOfOrder: The "Gobotron Saga" five-parter was aired late in the series' run, even though it picks up from where the FiveEpisodePilot left off and introduce many recurring characters and concepts.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The reason the ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' movie is presently the only [=GoBots=] media to not get a contemporary home media release is because the rights to the film are co-owned by Creator/WarnerBros (current owners of the cartoon's distribution rights like most of Creator/HannaBarbera's cartoons) and Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who obtained the rights to the library of the film's distributor Clubhouse Pictures after Clubhouse Pictures went out of business).

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* OutOfOrder: The "Gobotron Saga" five-parter was aired late in the series' run, even though it picks up from where the FiveEpisodePilot left off and introduce introduces many recurring characters and concepts.
* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The reason the ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' movie is presently the only [=GoBots=] media to not get a contemporary home media release is because the rights to the film are co-owned by Creator/WarnerBros (current owners of the cartoon's distribution rights like most of Creator/HannaBarbera's cartoons) and Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who obtained the rights to the library of the film's distributor Clubhouse Pictures after Clubhouse Pictures Clubhouse's parent, Atlantic Entertainment Group, went out under and, like many minor movie companies of business).the mid-to-late 80s, wound up in an extensive library owned by French bank Credit Lyonnais before MGM ultimately purchased them from Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment in the late 1990s).



** Snoop, a Renegade that changed into an SR-71 Blackbird, was pulled from the toy line for unknown reasons. It was even [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Prototypes/SnoopPrototypeMOC.html offered and pictured]] in the 1985 JC Penney Christmas catalog. She did, however, see release in the respective European and Australian localizations of the toyline, Robo Machine and Machine Men.

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** Snoop, a Renegade that changed into an SR-71 Blackbird, was pulled from the toy line for unknown reasons. It was even [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Prototypes/SnoopPrototypeMOC.html offered and pictured]] in the 1985 JC Penney Christmas catalog. She did, however, see release in the respective European and Australian localizations of the toyline, Robo Machine ''Robo Machine'' and Machine Men.''Machine Men''.
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** A third Power Suit Combiner was planned, [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Combiners/Nemisis.html the Renegade Nemisis]]. Unlike Courageous and Grungy, the torso was a tank instead of a jet. In spite of being advertised in a 1986 Gobots catalog included with a toy boxset, it is unknown whether this was even produced.
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Magmar wasn't just a random Rock Lord, he was the leader of the evil faction.


** One of the Rock Lords is named [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Magmar]].

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** One The leader of the evil Rock Lords is named [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Magmar]].
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* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Segal. The ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently close to the original script.

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* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Segal. The ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently close to the original script.
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Generation One refers to the Dreamwave Transformers comic.


* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Segal. The ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently close to the original script.

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* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Segal. The ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne'' ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently close to the original script.
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** One of the Rock Lords is named [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Magmar]].
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** Snoop, a Renegade that changed into an SR-71 Blackbird, was pulled from the toy line for unknown reasons. It was even [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Prototypes/SnoopPrototypeMOC.html offered and pictured]] in the 1985 JC Penney Christmas catalog.

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** Snoop, a Renegade that changed into an SR-71 Blackbird, was pulled from the toy line for unknown reasons. It was even [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Prototypes/SnoopPrototypeMOC.html offered and pictured]] in the 1985 JC Penney Christmas catalog. She did, however, see release in the respective European and Australian localizations of the toyline, Robo Machine and Machine Men.

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Renegade Rhetoric has its own page now, and since the first entry under Screwed By The Lawyers applies more to that Character Blog than the original cartoon, I'm removing it.


* ScrewedByTheLawyers:
** The ''Renegade Rhetoric'' feature originally had a picture of Cy-Kill from the cartoon on the page, but Hasbro apparently warned the staff that Hanna-Barbera still owned the rights to the likenesses of the cartoon and so the picture was quickly replaced with an original piece of artwork.
** The reason the ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' movie is presently the only [=GoBots=] media to not get a contemporary home media release is because the rights to the film are co-owned by Creator/WarnerBros (current owners of the cartoon's distribution rights like most of Creator/HannaBarbera's cartoons) and Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who obtained the rights to the library of the film's distributor Clubhouse Pictures after Clubhouse Pictures went out of business).

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* ScrewedByTheLawyers:
** The ''Renegade Rhetoric'' feature originally had a picture of Cy-Kill from the cartoon on the page, but Hasbro apparently warned the staff that Hanna-Barbera still owned the rights to the likenesses of the cartoon and so the picture was quickly replaced with an original piece of artwork.
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ScrewedByTheLawyers: The reason the ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' movie is presently the only [=GoBots=] media to not get a contemporary home media release is because the rights to the film are co-owned by Creator/WarnerBros (current owners of the cartoon's distribution rights like most of Creator/HannaBarbera's cartoons) and Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who obtained the rights to the library of the film's distributor Clubhouse Pictures after Clubhouse Pictures went out of business).

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** Cop-Tur was originally voiced by Bob Holt, but ended up voiced by Arthur Burghardt in the show's final episodes as well as the movie ''[=GoBots=]: Battle of the Rock Lords'' because of Holt's death.

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** A.J. Foster was voiced by Candy Brown in the FiveEpisodePilot "Battle for Gobotron", with Leslie Speights voicing the character for the rest of the series and the movie ''[=GoBots=]: Battle of the Rock Lords''.
** Cop-Tur was originally voiced by Bob Holt, but ended up voiced by Arthur Burghardt in the show's final episodes as well as the movie ''[=GoBots=]: Battle of the Rock Lords'' because of Holt's death.

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* TheOtherDarrin: Cop-Tur was originally voiced by Bob Holt, but ended up voiced by Arthur Burghardt in the show's final episodes as well as the movie ''[=GoBots=]: Battle of the Rock Lords'' because of Holt's death.

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* TheOtherDarrin: TheOtherDarrin:
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Cop-Tur was originally voiced by Bob Holt, but ended up voiced by Arthur Burghardt in the show's final episodes as well as the movie ''[=GoBots=]: Battle of the Rock Lords'' because of Holt's death.death.
** Sparky Marcus voiced Nick Burns for the series, but was replaced by Ike Eisenmann for the ''Rock Lords'' movie.
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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie on home video) to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie on home video) in theaters) to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The ''Renegade Rhetoric'' feature originally had a picture of Cy-Kill from the cartoon on the page, but Hasbro apparently warned the staff that Hanna-Barbera still owned the rights to the likenesses of the cartoon and so the picture was quickly replaced with an original piece of artwork.

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* ScrewedByTheLawyers: ScrewedByTheLawyers:
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The ''Renegade Rhetoric'' feature originally had a picture of Cy-Kill from the cartoon on the page, but Hasbro apparently warned the staff that Hanna-Barbera still owned the rights to the likenesses of the cartoon and so the picture was quickly replaced with an original piece of artwork.artwork.
** The reason the ''Battle of the Rock Lords'' movie is presently the only [=GoBots=] media to not get a contemporary home media release is because the rights to the film are co-owned by Creator/WarnerBros (current owners of the cartoon's distribution rights like most of Creator/HannaBarbera's cartoons) and Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who obtained the rights to the library of the film's distributor Clubhouse Pictures after Clubhouse Pictures went out of business).
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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMeyer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie on home video) to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMeyer Creator/MetroGoldwynMayer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie on home video) to be hammered out before making a release possible.
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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearance issues issues with Creator/MetroGoldwynMeyer (who co-own the rights to the movie due to currently owning the rights to the library of Clubhouse Pictures, the company that originally released the movie on home video) to be hammered out before making a release possible.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor Website/CollegeHumor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.



* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Peter Cullen, Arthur Burghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Hasbro later bought Tonka, the owner of the [=GoBots=] toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once a competitor to the Transformers franchise.

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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Peter Cullen, Creator/PeterCullen, Arthur Burghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Hasbro Creator/{{Hasbro}} later bought Tonka, the owner of the [=GoBots=] ''[=GoBots=]'' toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once a the main competitor to the Transformers ''Transformers'' franchise.



** The show featured a decent state of limbo over its legal status. In which case the rights to the TV show and likenesses of characters from the TV show are now Warner Brothers (by way of Creator/HannaBarbera), the general franchise as a whole is owned by Hasbro (by way of Tonka).

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** The show featured a decent state of limbo over its legal status. In which case the rights to the TV show and likenesses of characters from the TV show are now Warner Brothers Creator/WarnerBros (by way of Creator/HannaBarbera), the general franchise as a whole is owned by Hasbro (by way of Tonka).



** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearence issues to be hammered out before making a release possible.

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** The movie being the last piece missing which Warner Archive did confirm they own but that does contain clearence clearance issues to be hammered out before making a release possible.



** One of the Guardians is named Blaster, who shares his name with one of the Autobots from the [=GoBots=]' more successful competitor Transformers.

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** One of the Guardians is named Blaster, who shares his name with one of the Autobots from the [=GoBots=]' ''[=GoBots=]''' more successful competitor Transformers.''Transformers''.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Puzzler was originally solicited as a Guardian, not a Renegade, in the 1985 Tonka toy catalog.
** Snoop, a Renegade that changed into an SR-71 Blackbird, was pulled from the toy line for unknown reasons. It was even [[http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Prototypes/SnoopPrototypeMOC.html offered and pictured]] in the 1985 JC Penney Christmas catalog.
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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about shape-changing robots based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Peter Cullen, Arthur Burghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Hasbro later bought Tonka, the owner of the [=GoBots=] toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once a competitor to the Transformers franchise.

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* DuelingShows: ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]'' was infamous for competing against ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', both shows being cartoons about shape-changing robots TransformingMecha based on a toyline and sharing a few voice actors (most notably Peter Cullen, Arthur Burghardt, and Creator/FrankWelker). Ironically, Transformers' owner Hasbro later bought Tonka, the owner of the [=GoBots=] toyline, in 1991, so Hasbro now owns the rights to what was once a competitor to the Transformers franchise.
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* JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One [[Ask Vector Prime FourthWallMailslot]] mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between {{Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between {{Franchise/{{Transformers}} [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.
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* CounterpartComparisson: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One [[Ask Vector PrimeFourthWallMailslot]] mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.

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* CounterpartComparisson: JustForFun/CounterpartComparison: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One [[Ask Vector PrimeFourthWallMailslot]] Prime FourthWallMailslot]] mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.
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* CounterpartComparison: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One Ask Vector Prime mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.

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* CounterpartComparison: CounterpartComparisson: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One Ask [[Ask Vector Prime PrimeFourthWallMailslot]] mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Lou Richards (Leader 1's voice actor) stated he loved a Colledge Humor video where a washed-up Leader 1 awkwardly interjects himself in a meeting between [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} {{Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime and Megatron]], and that he'd have gladly reprised his role had he been asked.


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* CounterpartComparison: Besides some obvious comparisons between elements of [=GoBot=] Mythos and Transformers Mythos: Guardians=Autobots, Renegades=Decepticons, Leader-1=Optimus Prime, Cy-Kill=Megatron and the list goes on. One Ask Vector Prime mentioned one universe where [=GoBots=] and Transformers coexist and the Rock Lords became a stand in for the Junkions.
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* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Seagal. The ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently what he meant to do the first time.

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* CreatorBacklash: Writer Michael Hill disliked the episode "Gameworld" due to its heavy rewrite done at the hand of the show's editors, Kelly Ward and Jeff Seagal. Segal. The ''WesternAnimation/TransformersGenerationOne'' episode "The Gambler" is apparently what he meant close to do the first time.original script.
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* TheWikiRule: [[http://gbwiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page The GoBots Wiki]].
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ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy: Outside the six main characters who had their faces extensively redesigned to make them more expressive and less inhuman, the animated Gobots were ''very'' close to their plastic counterparts.

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ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy: *ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy: Outside the six main characters who had their faces extensively redesigned to make them more expressive and less inhuman, the animated Gobots were ''very'' close to their plastic counterparts.
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ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy: Outside the six main characters who had their faces extensively redesigned to make them more expressive and less inhuman, the animated Gobots were ''very'' close to their plastic counterparts.

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