History Trivia / Caddyshack

25th Mar '17 6:00:05 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** ''Caddyshack II'' didn't have it much better:
*** After the original film's release, Rodney Dangerfield repeatedly advocated that a sequel be made, but Ramis kept refusing the idea, not keen on reliving the first film's chaotic production. After a few years, Dangerfield and Ramis worked out a compromise whereby Ramis would co-write the script, but someone else would direct, and Dangerfield selected Alan Metter, who he had recently worked with on ''Film/BackToSchool''.
*** While Ramis and co-writer Peter Torokvei were working on the script, Dangerfield soon came to blows with Jon Peters, who had fully taken over the producer's role (which he shared with the since-deceased Douglas Kenney on the first film) and demanded that the sequel be PG-rated in order to appeal to a wider audience. Dangerfield was angered by this, as it would preclude him from ad-libbing the edgier material that he had done in the first film (which was R-rated), and when Peters refused to back down he ended up quitting. Peters then fired Metter and replaced him with Allan Arkush, and Ramis and Torokvei, not wanting to do the film without Dangerfield, walked shortly after that.
*** Filming eventually started with Jackie Mason in the lead role, and Chevy Chase as the only returning actor from the first film, something even he later admitted regretting, and only did because he was offered a comparatively huge amount for just a few days' worth of shooting. Filming wasn't as problematic as that of the first film, but Arkush insisted on staging scenes at a slow, deliberate pace -- something he had similarly done on ''Film/{{Heartbeeps}}'' -- neutering what little comic timing the script (rewritten by around a half-dozen uncredited ghost writers) still had.
*** This time around the film was unable to overcome its behind-the-scenes issues, and the end result was critically mauled and made back less than half of its budget at the box-office, with Arkush never again helming a theatrically-released movie, and Ramis considering it arguably the lowest point of his entire career. Adding insult to injury, Bill Murray successfully sued the producers for royalties relating to the gopher character, which he originally created in the first film, but was never asked for permission to re-use in the sequel.
10th Feb '17 5:28:40 PM bowserbros
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** Ramis wanted to use Music/PinkFloyd to write music for the film, but couldn't get them.

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** Ramis wanted to use Music/PinkFloyd to write music for the film, film (and right after they had released ''Music/TheWall'', no less), but couldn't get them.they politely declined.
31st Jan '17 8:56:08 AM Morgenthaler
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** Cindy Morgan was uncomfortable with doing nude scenes, and while Harold Ramis was willing to change the script, producer Jon Peters told Morgan that her career would be over if she refused. Peters then invited photographers from ''{{Playboy}}'' to the set to photograph her, which angered her greatly, and she, with Ramis' support, again refused to do the scene until the photographers were sent home. In a 2010 interview, Morgan stated that she voluntarily put her career on hold as a result of the experience.

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** Cindy Morgan was uncomfortable with doing nude scenes, and while Harold Ramis was willing to change the script, producer Jon Peters told Morgan that her career would be over if she refused. Peters then invited photographers from ''{{Playboy}}'' ''Magazine/{{Playboy}}'' to the set to photograph her, which angered her greatly, and she, with Ramis' support, again refused to do the scene until the photographers were sent home. In a 2010 interview, Morgan stated that she voluntarily put her career on hold as a result of the experience.
5th Sep '16 5:55:17 PM Josef5678
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* GenderFlip: The part of Joey was originally written for a boy but transportation captain Hank Scelza suggested his granddaughter, Minerva Scelza for the role because she was a tomboy. Minerva improvised the part where she spins around while trying to carry Al Czervik's bag.
5th Sep '16 5:54:42 PM Josef5678
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** The theatrical and TV trailers shows some extra shots and deleted scenes. These include:

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** The theatrical and TV trailers shows show some extra shots and deleted scenes. These include:



*** a couple of extra shots of gopher including a scene where he dances in one of his tunnels;
*** Ty and Lacey talking while walking across golf course;
*** an alternate version of scene where Smails gets hit with golf ball in groins;
*** another scene between Ty and Lacey on some boat (some stills and lobby cards also show a part where Ty talks on the phone while Lacey whispers in his ear in the same deleted scene).

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*** a A couple of extra shots of gopher including a scene where he dances in one of his tunnels;
*** Ty and Lacey talking while walking across the golf course;
*** an An alternate version of the scene where Smails gets hit with golf ball in groins;
the groin;
*** another Another scene between Ty and Lacey on some boat (some stills and lobby cards also show a part where Ty talks on the phone while Lacey whispers in his ear in the same deleted scene).



* ThrowItIn: A good deal of Creator/BillMurray's dialog was improvised on the set, including his now-classic sportscaster monologue.

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* ThrowItIn: ThrowItIn:
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A good deal of Creator/BillMurray's dialog was improvised on the set, including his now-classic sportscaster monologue.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Creator/HaroldRamis has said that he was told that Creator/RodneyDangerfield was interested in doing the second movie. Dangerfield actually was attached, but was displeased with the script (as many turned out to be). With no suitable rewrites, he backed out.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: WhatCouldHaveBeen:
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Creator/HaroldRamis has said that he was told that Creator/RodneyDangerfield was interested in doing the second movie. Dangerfield actually was attached, but was displeased with the script (as many turned out to be). With no suitable rewrites, he backed out.



** Carl Spackler was originally a silent character in the script inspired by Creator/HarpoMarx. But after Murray was cast, Ramis encouraged Murray to speak and improvise.

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** Carl Spackler was originally a silent character in the script inspired by Creator/HarpoMarx.[[Creator/MarxBrothers Harpo Marx]]. But after Murray was cast, Ramis encouraged Murray to speak and improvise.
5th Sep '16 12:52:31 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* AFIS100Years100Laughs: #71
* AFIS100Years100MovieQuotes:
** #92, "Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac...It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!"
* AFIS10Top10:
** #7, Sports

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* ActorAllusion: In the scene where the Bishop (played by veteran actor Henry Wilcoxon) is having his best round of golf ever during a thunderstorm, he misses an easy putt, looks skyward and yells "rat farts!", and is immediately struck down by a bolt of lightning. The background music in this scene was from ''Film/TheTenCommandments'', in which Wilcoxon played the part of Pentaur.
* AFIS100YearsSeries:
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AFIS100Years100Laughs: #71
* ** AFIS100Years100MovieQuotes:
** *** #92, "Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac...It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!"
* ** AFIS10Top10:
** *** #7, Sports



* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny The legendary scene with Ty and Carl in Ty's "home" was added to the script solely because the writers realized that there wasn't a single scene in the movie that featured Bill Murray and Chevy Chase together and was almost entirely improvised.

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* GenderFlip: The part of Joey was originally written for a boy but transportation captain Hank Scelza suggested his granddaughter, Minerva Scelza for the role because she was a tomboy. Minerva improvised the part where she spins around while trying to carry Al Czervik's bag.
* HarpoDoesSomethingFunny The legendary scene with Ty and Carl in Ty's "home" was added to the script solely because the writers realized that there wasn't a single scene in the movie that featured Bill Murray Creator/BillMurray and Chevy Chase Creator/ChevyChase together and was almost entirely improvised.improvised.
* MissingTrailerScene:
** The theatrical and TV trailers shows some extra shots and deleted scenes. These include:
*** Danny almost gets hit by a throwing knife while he is in the kitchen;
*** Danny juggling with golf balls;
*** a couple of extra shots of gopher including a scene where he dances in one of his tunnels;
*** Ty and Lacey talking while walking across golf course;
*** an alternate version of scene where Smails gets hit with golf ball in groins;
*** another scene between Ty and Lacey on some boat (some stills and lobby cards also show a part where Ty talks on the phone while Lacey whispers in his ear in the same deleted scene).



** The second film is this to both Chevy Chase and Harold Ramis; it's telling that every other actor from the first film refused to take part in the sequel after seeing the script.
** The first film for Creator/HaroldRamis, as he had many disagreements with the cast over direction.
* RealLifeRelative: Creator/BillMurray and BrianDoyleMurray.
* ThrowItIn: A good deal of Bill Murray's dialog was improvised on the set, including his now-classic sportscaster monologue.

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** The second film is this to both Chevy Chase Creator/ChevyChase and Harold Ramis; Creator/HaroldRamis; it's telling that every other actor from the first film refused to take part in the sequel after seeing the script.
** The first film for Creator/HaroldRamis, Ramis, as he had many disagreements with the cast over direction.
* RealLifeRelative: Creator/BillMurray and BrianDoyleMurray.
Creator/BrianDoyleMurray.
* ThrowItIn: A good deal of Bill Murray's Creator/BillMurray's dialog was improvised on the set, including his now-classic sportscaster monologue.



** The oil massage scene with Creator/ChevyChase was also completely improvised. When Lacy exclaims "You're crazy!" that was Cindy Morgan's genuine reaction to Chase dousing her with oil.
** Murray improvised the scene with Peter Berkrot in which Carl holds a pitchfork to Angie's throat. According to Bekrot, he was genuinely nervous during that scene because the pitchfork was real.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Harold Ramis has said that he was told that Rodney Dangerfield was interested in doing the second movie. Dangerfield actually was attached, but was displeased with the script (as many turned out to be). With no suitable rewrites, he backed out.
** Also averted. The filmmakers seemed to be asking themselves this when they realized that Bill Murray and Chevy Chase didn't have a scene together. Thankfully, they made one up pretty quickly.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Harold Ramis Creator/HaroldRamis has said that he was told that Rodney Dangerfield Creator/RodneyDangerfield was interested in doing the second movie. Dangerfield actually was attached, but was displeased with the script (as many turned out to be). With no suitable rewrites, he backed out.
** Also averted. The filmmakers seemed to be asking themselves this when they realized that Bill Murray Creator/BillMurray and Chevy Chase Creator/ChevyChase didn't have a scene together. Thankfully, they made one up pretty quickly.quickly.
** Carl Spackler was originally a silent character in the script inspired by Creator/HarpoMarx. But after Murray was cast, Ramis encouraged Murray to speak and improvise.
** Ramis wanted to use Music/PinkFloyd to write music for the film, but couldn't get them.
** Creator/DonRickles was originally considered for Al Czervik.
* WriteWhatYouKnow:
** The movie was inspired by Creator/BrianDoyleMurray's memories working as a caddy at a golf club. His brother Creator/BillMurray and Creator/HaroldRamis also worked as caddies when they were teenagers.
** The scene involving a Baby Ruth candy bar being thrown into the swimming pool was based on a real-life incident at Doyle-Murray's high school.
** The scene in which Al Czervik hits Judge Smails in the genitals with a struck golf ball happened to Ramis on what he said was the second of his two rounds of golf, on a nine-hole public course.
* WriteWhoYouKnow: Creator/BrianDoyleMurray based the character of Maggie on a girl he met during his time as a caddy. He also based Danny's family on his own. He has eight siblings, including Creator/BillMurray.
27th Mar '16 4:11:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* HeyItsThatGuy: ''The'' [[SmallNameBigEgo Ted Baxter]] plays Judge Smails.
** That's Yori from TRON as Lacy Underall.
** Maggie is played by Sarah Holcomb, a.k.a. Clorette, the underage girl in ''AnimalHouse''.
** The Film/CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon directed the infamous pool scene.
13th Feb '16 10:36:08 AM Josef5678
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* OldShame: The second film is this to both Chevy Chase and Harold Ramis; it's telling that every other actor from the first film refused to take part in the sequel after seeing the script.
** Also the first film for Ramis. See the last example on TroubledProduction.

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The second film is this to both Chevy Chase and Harold Ramis; it's telling that every other actor from the first film refused to take part in the sequel after seeing the script.
** Also the The first film for Ramis. See Creator/HaroldRamis, as he had many disagreements with the last example on TroubledProduction.cast over direction.
13th Feb '16 6:52:24 AM 123456789
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** Also the first film for Ramis. See the last example on TroubledProduction.
17th Jan '16 11:38:37 PM spasskysteve
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* MassiveNumberedSiblings: Danny has eight brothers and sisters.
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