History Trivia / BladeRunner

17th Sep '16 2:11:30 PM DrOO7
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6th Sep '16 3:23:51 AM moloch
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** Creator/Moebius was offered the opportunity to assist in the pre-production, but he declined so that he could work on ''Film/TimeMasters'' - a decision that he later regretted.

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** Creator/Moebius Creator/{{Moebius}} was offered the opportunity to assist in the pre-production, but he declined so that he could work on ''Film/TimeMasters'' - a decision that he later regretted.
6th Sep '16 3:18:36 AM moloch
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** More solidified now in that it's generally agreed upon that Deckard is human in the theatrical cut and a replicant in the directors.
** According to Creator/MarkKermode the idea of Deckard being a replicant first arose from a misunderstanding between the screenwriters: One had written into the script a line about Deckard wondering about his own creator, which was intended as him comparing himself to replicants and the creator being God. The other writer thought this line meant Deckard was a replicant, and led to both thinking the other one put forth the idea first.

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** More solidified now in that it's generally agreed upon that the evidence suggests Deckard is human in the theatrical Theatrical cut and possibly a replicant in the directors.
Director's/Final cuts.
** According to Creator/MarkKermode the idea of Deckard being a replicant at all first arose from a misunderstanding between the screenwriters: One had written into the script a line about Deckard wondering about his own creator, which was intended as him comparing himself to replicants and the creator being God. The other writer thought this line meant Deckard was a replicant, and led to both thinking the other one put forth the idea first.
18th Jul '16 5:21:37 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckard. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.
** Pete Townshend was at one point asked to compose the music for the film. He declined due to his experiences on ''Film/Tommy''.

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** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckard. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.
''Film/ApocalypseNow''.
** [[Music/TheWho Pete Townshend Townshend]] was at one point asked to compose the music for the film. He declined due to his experiences on ''Film/Tommy''.''Film/{{Tommy}}''.
18th Jul '16 5:18:46 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorPreferredAdaptation: Creator/PhillipKDick felt that the film (at least, the director's cut, not the butchered theatrical version) was superior to its source material, his novel ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep?'', and was amazed at how the book was "escalated into such stunning dimensions."

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* CreatorPreferredAdaptation: Creator/PhillipKDick Creator/PhilipKDick felt that the film (at least, the director's cut, not the butchered theatrical version) was superior to its source material, his novel ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep?'', and was amazed at how the book was "escalated into such stunning dimensions."
18th Jul '16 5:17:24 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorPreferredAdaptation: Creator/PhillipKDick felt that the film (at least, the director's cut, not the butchered theatrical version) was superior to its source material, his novel ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep?'', and was amazed at how the book was "escalated into such stunning dimensions."
10th Jul '16 2:15:11 PM gewunomox
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** Music/PeteTownshend was at one point asked to compose the music for the film. He declined due to his experiences on ''Film/Tommy''.

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** Music/PeteTownshend Pete Townshend was at one point asked to compose the music for the film. He declined due to his experiences on ''Film/Tommy''.
6th Jul '16 2:16:44 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* WagTheDirector: Creator/HarrisonFord frequently argued with Creator/RidleyScott over whether or not Deckard is a replicant.

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* WagTheDirector: Creator/HarrisonFord Creator/HarrisonFord frequently argued with Creator/RidleyScott over whether or not Deckard is a replicant.



** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckar. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.

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** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckar.Deckard. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.



** In this initial script, the story focused less on human issues than it did on environmental issues and larger questions of God and mortality. It refers to replicants as "androids" and makes it clear that Deckard is human. The Voight-Kampff test can spot androids after five or six questions (not the thirty questions required in later drafts); Rachael is detected after thirteen questions, not a hundred. The sixth android, Mary, is present in this draft. Instead of finding Tyrell at the Tyrell building, Batty goes to Tyrell's mansion, and he kills Tyrell, along with his bodyguard, a maid, and his entire family; he later kills Sebastian. The androids in this script have no obvious reason to be on earth; there is nothing about them wanting to live longer, they are simply on earth killing people for no apparent reason. At the end of the script, Rachael kills herself, as she knows if she doesn't do it, Deckard will have to. The script ends with Deckard wandering into the desert with the intention of dying, but upon seeing a tortoise struggling to turn itself over, he decides to live on.

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** ** In this initial script, the story focused less on human issues than it did on environmental issues and larger questions of God and mortality. It refers to replicants as "androids" and makes it clear that Deckard is human. The Voight-Kampff test can spot androids after five or six questions (not the thirty questions required in later drafts); Rachael is detected after thirteen questions, not a hundred. The sixth android, Mary, is present in this draft. Instead of finding Tyrell at the Tyrell building, Batty goes to Tyrell's mansion, and he kills Tyrell, along with his bodyguard, a maid, and his entire family; he later kills Sebastian. The androids in this script have no obvious reason to be on earth; there is nothing about them wanting to live longer, they are simply on earth killing people for no apparent reason. At the end of the script, Rachael kills herself, as she knows if she doesn't do it, Deckard will have to. The script ends with Deckard wandering into the desert with the intention of dying, but upon seeing a tortoise struggling to turn itself over, he decides to live on.
6th Jul '16 2:14:17 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* WagTheDirector: Creator/HarrisonFord frequently argued with Creator/RidleyScott over whether or not Deckard is a replicant.

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* WagTheDirector: Creator/HarrisonFord Creator/HarrisonFord frequently argued with Creator/RidleyScott over whether or not Deckard is a replicant.



** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanCreatorConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckar. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.

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** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanCreatorConnery, Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckar. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.



** In this initial script, the story focused less on human issues than it did on environmental issues and larger questions of God and mortality. It refers to replicants as "androids" and makes it clear that Deckard is human. The Voight-Kampff test can spot androids after five or six questions (not the thirty questions required in later drafts); Rachael is detected after thirteen questions, not a hundred. The sixth android, Mary, is present in this draft. Instead of finding Tyrell at the Tyrell building, Batty goes to Tyrell's mansion, and he kills Tyrell, along with his bodyguard, a maid, and his entire family; he later kills Sebastian. The androids in this script have no obvious reason to be on earth; there is nothing about them wanting to live longer, they are simply on earth killing people for no apparent reason. At the end of the script, Rachael kills herself, as she knows if she doesn't do it, Deckard will have to. The script ends with Deckard wandering into the desert with the intention of dying, but upon seeing a tortoise struggling to turn itself over, he decides to live on.

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** ** In this initial script, the story focused less on human issues than it did on environmental issues and larger questions of God and mortality. It refers to replicants as "androids" and makes it clear that Deckard is human. The Voight-Kampff test can spot androids after five or six questions (not the thirty questions required in later drafts); Rachael is detected after thirteen questions, not a hundred. The sixth android, Mary, is present in this draft. Instead of finding Tyrell at the Tyrell building, Batty goes to Tyrell's mansion, and he kills Tyrell, along with his bodyguard, a maid, and his entire family; he later kills Sebastian. The androids in this script have no obvious reason to be on earth; there is nothing about them wanting to live longer, they are simply on earth killing people for no apparent reason. At the end of the script, Rachael kills herself, as she knows if she doesn't do it, Deckard will have to. The script ends with Deckard wandering into the desert with the intention of dying, but upon seeing a tortoise struggling to turn itself over, he decides to live on.
6th Jul '16 2:12:55 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/HarrisonFord refused to talk about the film for years due to the miserable experience he had making it.



** Harrison Ford often went between impatient and bored during production.
** Sean Young was cast by Scott for her Ava Gardner-esque looks, although many preferred another actress, Nina Axelrod. Young was unknown and also inexperienced, which seemed at times to annoy Harrison Ford.

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** Harrison Ford Creator/HarrisonFord often went between impatient and bored during production.
** Sean Young Creator/SeanYoung was cast by Scott for her Ava Gardner-esque Creator/AvaGardner-esque looks, although many preferred another actress, Nina Axelrod. Young was unknown and also inexperienced, which seemed at times to annoy Harrison Ford.



* WagTheDirector: Creator/HarrisonFord frequently argued with Creator/RidleyScott over whether or not Deckard is a replicant.



** This was offered to Creator/RalphBakshi. He passed on it, but recommended Ridley Scott for the director's chair. And the rest is history...
** DustinHoffman was originally cast as Deckard. Scott intended to subvert the typical image of the burly HardboiledDetective, and Hoffman would fit that well. This period of the film's pre-production got so far that even some of the early storyboards featured Hoffman's likeness on images of Deckard.

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** This was offered to Creator/RalphBakshi. He passed on it, but recommended Ridley Scott Creator/RidleyScott for the director's chair. And the rest is history...
** DustinHoffman Creator/DustinHoffman was originally cast as Deckard. Scott intended to subvert the typical image of the burly HardboiledDetective, and Hoffman would fit that well. This period of the film's pre-production got so far that even some of the early storyboards featured Hoffman's likeness on images of Deckard.Deckard.
** Creator/TommyLeeJones, Creator/GeneHackman, Creator/SeanCreatorConnery, Creator/JackNicholson, Creator/PaulNewman, Creator/ClintEastwood, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/WilliamDevane, Creator/RaulJulia, Creator/ScottGlenn, Creator/FredericForrest, Creator/RobertDuvall, Creator/JuddHirsch, Creator/CliffGorman, Creator/PeterFalk, Creator/NickNolte and Creator/ChristopherWalken were all considered for Deckar. Creator/MartinSheen was offered the role, but he turned it down, as he was exhausted, having come off ''Film/Apocalypse Now''.
** Music/PeteTownshend was at one point asked to compose the music for the film. He declined due to his experiences on ''Film/Tommy''.



** Ridley Scott himself wanted [[{{Music/Blondie}} Debbie Harry]] to play Pris, but she passed up on it, and later expressed regret over it.

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** Ridley Scott Creator/RidleyScott himself wanted [[{{Music/Blondie}} Debbie Harry]] to play Pris, but she passed up on it, and later expressed regret over it.it.
** Creator/JoePantoliano was considered for J.F. Sebastian.
** Creator/Moebius was offered the opportunity to assist in the pre-production, but he declined so that he could work on ''Film/TimeMasters'' - a decision that he later regretted.
** Music/GraceJones was considered for Rachel.
** In this initial script, the story focused less on human issues than it did on environmental issues and larger questions of God and mortality. It refers to replicants as "androids" and makes it clear that Deckard is human. The Voight-Kampff test can spot androids after five or six questions (not the thirty questions required in later drafts); Rachael is detected after thirteen questions, not a hundred. The sixth android, Mary, is present in this draft. Instead of finding Tyrell at the Tyrell building, Batty goes to Tyrell's mansion, and he kills Tyrell, along with his bodyguard, a maid, and his entire family; he later kills Sebastian. The androids in this script have no obvious reason to be on earth; there is nothing about them wanting to live longer, they are simply on earth killing people for no apparent reason. At the end of the script, Rachael kills herself, as she knows if she doesn't do it, Deckard will have to. The script ends with Deckard wandering into the desert with the intention of dying, but upon seeing a tortoise struggling to turn itself over, he decides to live on.
** The second draft has a number of scenes in this script made it into the final film - the opening scene is almost identical, as is the briefing scene with Bryant, Deckard searching Leon's hotel room, and Deckard using the Voight-Kampff machine on Rachael under the supervision of Tyrell. Differences included a smaller role for Gaff, and a larger role for the Esper, which is a talking computer. The script ends with Deckard bringing Rachael out to the countryside so she can see snow for the first time, and shooting her. The last scene sees him driving back to the city musing about how the ability to choose is what makes us human. This version of the script also included Mary as the sixth replicant (still called androids at this stage).
** The third draft opens in an 'Off-world Termination Dump', a dumping ground for dead androids (by now called replicants). Two work men are shoveling bodies into a pit, when one of the bodies comes to life (Roy Batty). He pulls Mary and Leon from the pile and they kill the workmen. This version introduced the snake scale storyline, but does not have the chess game featured in the final film. Other differences include: a new replicant called Roger, who attacks Deckard in Leon's hotel room; a scene where Chew's frozen body is discovered and knocked over; in this draft, Tyrell turns out to be another replicant, after Roy kills him, Roy demands that Sebastian take him to the real Tyrell, and Sebastian reveals that Tyrell had an unnamed disease and was placed into a hibernation unit to await a cure. Roy demands that Sebastian wake Tyrell up, but Sebastian reveals that Tyrell died a year ago during a power outage at which point Roy kills Sebastian. After Tyrell's death, the entire replicant line is put on hold. There is also a scene where Deckard forces Gaff to take the Voight-Kampff test and subsequently kills him. This draft also ended with Deckard killing Rachael, but the scene now takes place on a beach. The final scene sees Deckard waiting in his apartment for the police raid due to his murder of Gaff.
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