History Trivia / Batman

13th Aug '16 5:37:09 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* EnforcedMethodActing: Keaton ''hated'' the Batsuit because he suffered from claustrophobia. Elfman and Keaton both decided that it would ''enhance'' his performance. And it did.

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* EnforcedMethodActing: Keaton Creator/MichaelKeaton ''hated'' the Batsuit because he suffered from claustrophobia. Elfman and Keaton both decided that it would ''enhance'' his performance. And it did.



* TheOtherMarty: CreatorSeanYoung was originally cast as Vicki Vale, but dropped out when she was injured filming a horse riding scene that was later scrapped. Creator/KimBasinger stepped in to replace her.

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* TheOtherMarty: CreatorSeanYoung Creator/SeanYoung was originally cast as Vicki Vale, but dropped out when she was injured filming a horse riding scene that was later scrapped. Creator/KimBasinger stepped in to replace her.



__> "Here were Creator/JackNicholson and Creator/KimBasinger walking up this cathedral, and halfway up Jack turns around and says, 'Why am I walking up all these stairs? Where am I going?' 'We'll talk about it when you get to the top!' I had to tell him that I didn't know".

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__> --> "Here were Creator/JackNicholson and Creator/KimBasinger walking up this cathedral, and halfway up Jack turns around and says, 'Why am I walking up all these stairs? Where am I going?' 'We'll talk about it when you get to the top!' I had to tell him that I didn't know".
13th Aug '16 5:36:06 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Creator/RosannaArquette, Creator/JamieLeeCurtis, Ellen Barkin, Robin Duke, Kate Capshaw, Creator/GlennClose, Creator/JoanCusack, Music/{{Madonna}}, Creator/GeenaDavis, Judy Davis, Denny Dillon, Christine Ebersole, Mia Farrow, Creator/CarrieFisher, Bridget Fonda, Creator/JodieFoster, Teri Garr, Melanie Griffith, Linda Hamilton, Daryl Hannah, Goldie Hawn, Mariel Hemingway, Barbara Hershey, Holly Hunter, Creator/AnjelicaHuston, Amy Irving, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Kay Lenz, Creator/JessicaLange, Lori Loughlin, [[Series/Seinfeld Julia Louis-Dreyfus]], Virginia Madsen, Kelly McGillis, Creator/BetteMidler, Catherine O'Hara, Tatum O'Neal, [[Series/SexAndTheCity Sarah Jessica Parker]], Creator/MichellePfeiffer, Creator/MollyRingwald, Creator/MegRyan, Creator/SusanSarandon, Jane Seymour, Cybill Shepherd, Brooke Shields, Sissy Spacek, Mary Steenburgen, Creator/SharonStone, Creator/MerylStreep, Lea Thompson, Kathleen Turner, Sela Ward, Creator/SigourneyWeaver and Debra Winger were all considered for Vicki Vale
** Creator/RayLiotta was offered the roles of Harvey Dent, Bruce Wayne/Batman and Jack Napier/Joker but turned it down to film ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}.

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** Creator/RosannaArquette, Creator/JamieLeeCurtis, Ellen Barkin, Robin Duke, Kate Capshaw, Creator/GlennClose, Creator/JoanCusack, Music/{{Madonna}}, Creator/GeenaDavis, Judy Davis, Denny Dillon, Christine Ebersole, Mia Farrow, Creator/CarrieFisher, Bridget Fonda, Creator/JodieFoster, Teri Garr, Melanie Griffith, Linda Hamilton, Daryl Hannah, Goldie Hawn, Mariel Hemingway, Barbara Hershey, Holly Hunter, Creator/AnjelicaHuston, Amy Irving, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Kay Lenz, Creator/JessicaLange, Lori Loughlin, [[Series/Seinfeld [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} Julia Louis-Dreyfus]], Virginia Madsen, Kelly McGillis, Creator/BetteMidler, Catherine O'Hara, Tatum O'Neal, [[Series/SexAndTheCity Sarah Jessica Parker]], Creator/MichellePfeiffer, Creator/MollyRingwald, Creator/MegRyan, Creator/SusanSarandon, Jane Seymour, Cybill Shepherd, Brooke Shields, Sissy Spacek, Mary Steenburgen, Creator/SharonStone, Creator/MerylStreep, Lea Thompson, Kathleen Turner, Sela Ward, Creator/SigourneyWeaver and Debra Winger were all considered for Vicki Vale
** Creator/RayLiotta was offered the roles of Harvey Dent, Bruce Wayne/Batman and Jack Napier/Joker but turned it down to film ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}.''Film/{{Goodfellas}}''.



** A later draft written by Sam Hamm also has a large part of the film concentrating on Bruce traveling abroad and training with Henri Ducard, whom Bruce would later discover to be a criminal. This script was later overhauled into the version seen in the film, and Ducard was deleted. Months before the film's release, then-DC Comics editor Denny O'Neil asked Hamm to guest-write a "Blind Justice" storyarc throughout Batman-themed comics as a tie-in, and Hamm introduced his character there (specifically, in ''Detective Comics'' #599, April 1989). Ducard would later appear, played by Liam Neeson, as a CompositeCharacter with Ra's al Ghul in ''Film/BatmanBegins''.

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** A later draft written by Sam Hamm also has a large part of the film concentrating on Bruce traveling abroad and training with Henri Ducard, whom Bruce would later discover to be a criminal. This script was later overhauled into the version seen in the film, and Ducard was deleted. Months before the film's release, then-DC Comics editor Denny O'Neil asked Hamm to guest-write a "Blind Justice" storyarc throughout Batman-themed comics as a tie-in, and Hamm introduced his character there (specifically, in ''Detective Comics'' #599, April 1989). Ducard would later appear, played by Liam Neeson, Creator/LiamNeeson, as a CompositeCharacter with Ra's al Ghul in ''Film/BatmanBegins''.



** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 Film/{{Superman|TheMovie}} film, was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Creator/IvanReitman wanted to do a comedic version with Creator/BillMurray opposite Creator/EddieMurphy as Robin.

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** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 Film/{{Superman|TheMovie}} film, ''Film/{{Superman}}'', was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Creator/IvanReitman wanted to do a comedic version with Creator/BillMurray opposite Creator/EddieMurphy as Robin.
13th Aug '16 5:30:26 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Bette Davis was apparently in the running to play Ma Parker.

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** Bette Davis Creator/BetteDavis was apparently in the running to play Ma Parker.



* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/JackNicholson has said that The Joker might have been his favorite role of all, because it was the "least limiting" creation he did (read: lots of freedom to go LargeHam) and the character's CrossesTheLineTwice behavior mirrored his own sense of humor. The fact that he negotiated such a sweet back-end deal that ended up paying him more than any actor had received for a role before probably didn't hurt.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Creator/BobKane approved of the twist of The Joker being the one who killed Batman's parents, adding that he wished he'd thought of it himself.
* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/JackNicholson has said that The Joker might have been his favorite role of all, because it was the "least limiting" creation he did (read: lots of freedom to go LargeHam) and the character's CrossesTheLineTwice behavior mirrored his own sense of humor.humour. The fact that he negotiated such a sweet back-end deal that ended up paying him more than any actor had received for a role before probably didn't hurt.



** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 Film/{{Superman|TheMovie}} film, was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Actors considered for Batman included Mel Gibson, Pierce Brosnan, Charlie Sheen, Tom Selleck and even Bill Murray opposite Eddie Murphy as Robin.

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** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 Film/{{Superman|TheMovie}} film, was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Actors considered for Batman included Mel Gibson, Pierce Brosnan, Charlie Sheen, Tom Selleck and even Bill Murray Creator/IvanReitman wanted to do a comedic version with Creator/BillMurray opposite Eddie Murphy Creator/EddieMurphy as Robin.


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** In Sam Hamm's draft, the Joker takes down the Batwing in a Joker tank. The ending had the Joker attempting escape via helicopter, the helicopter rouses a swarm of bats that had been sleeping in the rafters, and the bats engulf the Joker, who falls to his death.
13th Aug '16 4:45:35 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Nicholson has said that The Joker might have been his favorite role of all, because it was the "least limiting" creation he did (read: lots of freedom to go LargeHam) and the character's CrossesTheLineTwice behavior mirrored his own sense of humor. The fact that he negotiated such a sweet back-end deal that ended up paying him more than any actor had received for a role before probably didn't hurt.

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* AwesomeDearBoy: Nicholson Creator/JackNicholson has said that The Joker might have been his favorite role of all, because it was the "least limiting" creation he did (read: lots of freedom to go LargeHam) and the character's CrossesTheLineTwice behavior mirrored his own sense of humor. The fact that he negotiated such a sweet back-end deal that ended up paying him more than any actor had received for a role before probably didn't hurt.



* TheCastShowoff: Nicholson's Jack Palance impression. It's pretty good, too.

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* TheCastShowoff: Nicholson's Creator/JackNicholson's Jack Palance impression. It's pretty good, too.



** Creator/TimBurton once said of the film "I liked parts of it, but the whole movie is mainly boring to me. [[SoOkayItsAverage It's OK]], but it was more of a cultural phenomenon than a great movie." He also wasn't horribly enthusiastic about how Prince's songs were used in the film.

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** Creator/TimBurton once said of the film "I liked parts of it, but the whole movie is mainly boring to me. [[SoOkayItsAverage It's OK]], but it was more of a cultural phenomenon than a great movie." He also wasn't horribly enthusiastic about how Prince's Music/{{Prince}}'s songs were used in the film.



* TheDanza: Jack Nicholson as (pre-Jokerization) Jack Napier.

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* CreatorCameo: Creator/TimBurton is one of the Joker's thugs in the museum scene.
* TheDanza: Jack Nicholson Creator/JackNicholson as (pre-Jokerization) Jack Napier.



* ExecutiveMeddling: Does the entire last act in the cathedral feel like it was tacked on at the last minute to you? It was. Executive Producer Jon Peters worked it into the movie all behind Tim Burton's back.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: Does the entire last act in the cathedral feel like it was tacked on at the last minute to you? It was. Executive Producer Jon Peters worked it into the movie all behind Tim Burton's back.Creator/TimBurton's back.
* TheOtherMarty: CreatorSeanYoung was originally cast as Vicki Vale, but dropped out when she was injured filming a horse riding scene that was later scrapped. Creator/KimBasinger stepped in to replace her.



* RomanceOnTheSet: Creator/KimBasinger separated from her husband of nine years and took up with Jon Peters over the course of filming.



** After the BoardToDeath meeting when the Joker tells Bob to tail Knox, JackNicholson ad-libbed his Grisson impression (complete with Jack Palance's breathy voice).
** Michael Keaton came up with the famous "I'm Batman" line - in the script it was "I am the (K)night".

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** After the BoardToDeath meeting when the Joker tells Bob to tail Knox, JackNicholson Creator/JackNicholson ad-libbed his Grisson impression (complete with Jack Palance's breathy voice).
** Michael Keaton Creator/JackNicholson revealed in an interview that the strange dance the Joker does when he exits Vicki Vale's apartment (when he raises his arms, blows a raspberry, and runs off) was something called the "bird dance" which he improvised during the take. He took it from a friend of his, the actor Clegg Hoyt.
** Creator/MichaelKeaton
came up with the famous "I'm Batman" line - in the script it was "I am the (K)night".



** Also considered for the role of Batman: Creator/MelGibson, Creator/KevinCostner, Creator/CharlieSheen, Creator/PierceBrosnan, Creator/TomSelleck and Creator/BillMurray?
** Also considered for the role of the Joker: Creator/TimCurry, Willem Dafoe, James Woods, Music/DavidBowie and Creator/RobinWilliams.

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** Also considered for the role of Batman: Creator/MelGibson, Creator/AlecBaldwin, Creator/JeffBridges, Emilio Estevez, Creator/MatthewBroderick, Creator/KevinCostner, Creator/TomCruise, Creator/MichaelJFox, Creator/HarrisonFord, Creator/RobertDowneyJr, Creator/KevinSpacey, Creator/PatrickSwayze, Dennis Quaid, Creator/KurtRussell, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, Creator/MelGibson, Creator/CharlieSheen, Creator/BillMurray, Creator/PierceBrosnan, Creator/TomSelleck Creator/TomSelleck, Creator/DanielDayLewis, Creator/TomHanks, Kevin Kline and Creator/BillMurray?
Creator/BruceWillis.
** Also considered for the role of the Joker: Creator/TimCurry, Willem Dafoe, Creator/BradDourif, James Woods, Music/DavidBowie and Creator/RobinWilliams.Creator/RobinWilliams.
** Creator/RosannaArquette, Creator/JamieLeeCurtis, Ellen Barkin, Robin Duke, Kate Capshaw, Creator/GlennClose, Creator/JoanCusack, Music/{{Madonna}}, Creator/GeenaDavis, Judy Davis, Denny Dillon, Christine Ebersole, Mia Farrow, Creator/CarrieFisher, Bridget Fonda, Creator/JodieFoster, Teri Garr, Melanie Griffith, Linda Hamilton, Daryl Hannah, Goldie Hawn, Mariel Hemingway, Barbara Hershey, Holly Hunter, Creator/AnjelicaHuston, Amy Irving, Diane Keaton, Diane Lane, Kay Lenz, Creator/JessicaLange, Lori Loughlin, [[Series/Seinfeld Julia Louis-Dreyfus]], Virginia Madsen, Kelly McGillis, Creator/BetteMidler, Catherine O'Hara, Tatum O'Neal, [[Series/SexAndTheCity Sarah Jessica Parker]], Creator/MichellePfeiffer, Creator/MollyRingwald, Creator/MegRyan, Creator/SusanSarandon, Jane Seymour, Cybill Shepherd, Brooke Shields, Sissy Spacek, Mary Steenburgen, Creator/SharonStone, Creator/MerylStreep, Lea Thompson, Kathleen Turner, Sela Ward, Creator/SigourneyWeaver and Debra Winger were all considered for Vicki Vale
** Creator/RayLiotta was offered the roles of Harvey Dent, Bruce Wayne/Batman and Jack Napier/Joker but turned it down to film ''Film/{{Goodfellas}}.
** Creator/SteveMartin and Daniel Stern turned down the role of Alexander Knox.
** Creator/MartinLandau turned down the role of Carl Grissom. Creator/ChristopherLee and Creator/AlbertFinney were considered for the role.
** Creator/TheCoenBrothers reportedly turned down the chance to make the film, because they didn't want to do a film that wasn't theirs.
** Creator/DavidCronenberg was offered a chance to direct but declined.


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** In the original script, Bruce Wayne was described as a man with "muscles on top of muscles and scarred from nightly combat".
** Music/MichaelJackson was asked to write and perform the songs for the movie, but he had to turn it down due to his concert commitments.
** Creator/KieferSutherland was offered the role of Dick Grayson and turned it down before the character was subsequently written out of the script.
** Jon Peters wanted to use a Nike product placement with the Batsuit.


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* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: Creator/TimBurton at one point had no clue how the film was going to climax -
__> "Here were Creator/JackNicholson and Creator/KimBasinger walking up this cathedral, and halfway up Jack turns around and says, 'Why am I walking up all these stairs? Where am I going?' 'We'll talk about it when you get to the top!' I had to tell him that I didn't know".
28th Jun '16 5:30:08 PM Doug86
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* NamesTheSame: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey# Batman]] in Turkey, known mainly for its NATO airbase, is not named after Batman [[note]]but from the like-named river, etymology unclear, perhaps from Bati-, west- [[/note]] which is kind of a letdown. But try reading the Wiki article without chuckling.

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* NamesTheSame: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey# org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey Batman]] in Turkey, known mainly for its NATO airbase, is not named after Batman [[note]]but from the like-named river, etymology unclear, perhaps from Bati-, west- [[/note]] which is kind of a letdown. But try reading the Wiki article without chuckling.



** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 {{Superman}} film, was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Actors considered for Batman included Mel Gibson, Pierce Brosnan, Charlie Sheen, Tom Selleck and even Bill Murray opposite Eddie Murphy as Robin.

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** This film went through so many different directors, screenplays, tones (including but not limited to straight up Adam West style parodies) and possible casts before we got the film we know and love today that there are truly too many to list here. Legend has it that Creator/RichardDonner himself, the man who directed the 1978 {{Superman}} Film/{{Superman|TheMovie}} film, was among the directors approached at one point to make this film, but had to decline due to previous commitments. Actors considered for Batman included Mel Gibson, Pierce Brosnan, Charlie Sheen, Tom Selleck and even Bill Murray opposite Eddie Murphy as Robin.
21st Jun '16 8:51:09 AM PrimeEvil
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** The Axis Chemicals set was originally the xenomorph hive from ''{{Film/Aliens}}''. The crew had to remove most of the xenomorph webbing before filming, but bits of it can still be spotted if you look carefully enough.
* RecycledSet: The alien nest and colony from ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' was reused as the set for the Axis Chemicals facility.

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** The Axis Chemicals set was originally the xenomorph hive from ''{{Film/Aliens}}''. The crew had to remove most of the xenomorph webbing before filming, but bits of it can still be spotted if you look carefully enough.
* RecycledSet: The alien nest and colony from ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' was reused as the set for the Axis Chemicals facility. The crew had to remove most of the xenomorph webbing before filming, but bits of it can still be spotted if you look carefully enough.
1st Jun '16 3:06:15 AM AlternativeCola
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