History Trivia / BabylonFive

28th Aug '17 9:02:59 AM kraas
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* CreatorBreakdown: A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Michael O'Hare was a schizophrenic, which led to his replacement, Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), and Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems (which contributed to the pneumonia that ultimately killed him). Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful.

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* CreatorBreakdown: A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Michael O'Hare was a schizophrenic, schizophrenic (and this fact was not known by the public or even the other cast members until JMS revealed it after O'Hare's death), which led to his replacement, Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), and Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems (which contributed to the pneumonia that ultimately killed him). Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful.
16th Aug '17 1:44:09 PM ClintEastwood
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* CreatorBreakdown: A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Michael O'Hare was a schizophrenic, which led to his replacement, Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), and Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems (which contributed to the pneumonia that ultimately killed him). Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful.



** Majel Barrett guest starred in the third season as Lady Morella, the third wife to the late Centauri Emperor, as a means to quell the fan-anger between the shows. She'd previously been one of the biggest ''Trek''-associated supporters of the show, frequently telling fans at conventions to check it out.

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** Majel Barrett Creator/MajelBarrett guest starred in the third season as Lady Morella, the third wife to the late Centauri Emperor, as a means to quell the fan-anger between the shows. She'd previously been one of the biggest ''Trek''-associated supporters of the show, frequently telling fans at conventions to check it out.



* HostilityOnTheSet: Claudia Christan and JMS didn't get on. They're still sniping at each other through tell-all books and interviews.



* TroubledProduction:
** A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Michael O'Hare was a schizophrenic, which led to his replacement, Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), and Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems (which contributed to the pneumonia that ultimately killed him). Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful. Most of the B5 core cast is still tight-knit to this day, particularly Claudia Christian, Bruce Boxleitner, and Mira Furlan. (Furlan even says that Boxleitner is still their "Captain.") Andreas Katulas and Peter Jurasik were best friends up until Katulas' death from terminal lung cancer.
** The only two who don't get along are Claudia Christan and JMS himself; they're still sniping at each other through tell-all books and interviews.
28th Jul '17 5:06:12 PM kraas
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** Though with Jerry Doyle's death in 2016, this is seeming less and less likely.

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** Though with Jerry Doyle's death in 2016, followed by Stephen Furst in 2017, this is seeming less and less likely.
21st Jul '17 5:00:25 AM lrrose
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** Jerry Doyle (Michael Garibaldi) died from an alcoholism-related heart attack in 2012 aged 60.

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** Jerry Doyle (Michael Garibaldi) died from an alcoholism-related heart attack in 2012 2016 aged 60.
21st Jul '17 1:55:07 AM LondonKdS
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* TheProductionCurse: A relatively low-key example, but fans have been saddened and spooked by the number of actors in the show who have died relatively young:
** Richard Biggs (Dr. Stephen Franklin) died of a ruptured aorta in 2004 aged only 44.
** Tim Choate (Zathras) died in a motorcycle accident later in 2004 aged 49.
** Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar) died of lung cancer in 2006 aged 59.
** Jeff Conaway (Zack Allan) died from drug-abuse-related illnesses in 2011 aged 60.
** Michael O'Hare (Jeffrey Sinclair) died from a heart attack in 2012 aged 60. It was subsequently revealed, by pre-arrangement with him about what would happen on his death, that he had developed schizophrenia during the making of his season of the show, and struggled with it for the rest of his life.
** Jerry Doyle (Michael Garibaldi) died from an alcoholism-related heart attack in 2012 aged 60.
** Stephen Furst (Vir Kotto) died from diabetes complications in 2017 aged 63.
12th Mar '17 4:20:03 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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*** The Minbari association with 3 would seem, however, to explain Deep Space Nine's titular station design. Three sections (core, habitat, docking), three sets of docking pylons, three vertical docking levels (2-pylon and 1-ring), 9 docking ports around the perimeter, three spokes...

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*** The Minbari association with 3 would seem, however, to explain Deep Space Nine's titular station design. Three sections (core, habitat, docking), three sets of docking pylons, three vertical docking levels (2-pylon and 1-ring), 9 docking ports around the perimeter, three spokes...spokes....



** Then there are the computer interfaces; the buttons look like colorful candy, and the interfaces look like a child's computer game...from the 80's.

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** Then there are the computer interfaces; the buttons look like colorful candy, and the interfaces look like a child's computer game... from the 80's.



** JMS once asked actor Wortham Krimmer to tone down Emperor Cartagia's fey behavior, to which Krimmer responded, "Well, Joe, he's bisexual, don't you know." When JMS gave an "[[WagTheDirector oh really]]" sort of reply, Krimmer said, "Absolutely. He's the emperor. He can f--- anyone he wants."

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** JMS once asked actor Wortham Krimmer to tone down Emperor Cartagia's fey behavior, to which Krimmer responded, "Well, Joe, he's bisexual, don't you know." When JMS gave an "[[WagTheDirector oh really]]" sort of reply, Krimmer said, "Absolutely. He's the emperor. He can f--- f-- anyone he wants."
9th Mar '17 7:01:53 AM Fighteer
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** You remember that line about "electric bleachers"? You probably thought that JMS was just being grimdark. It's an actual quote from Jerry Doyle which JMS "stole" for the show.
*** Zack Allen's complaints about his uniform not fitting were actual complaints Jeff Conaway made, unaware that JMS had heard him. He was very surprised to see his comments appear in a script.

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** You remember that line about "electric bleachers"? You probably thought that JMS was just being grimdark. It's an actual quote from Jerry Doyle which JMS "stole" for the show.
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Zack Allen's complaints about his uniform not fitting were actual complaints Jeff Conaway made, unaware that JMS had heard him. He was very surprised to see his comments appear in a script.
16th Feb '17 6:17:01 AM themisterfree
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* ChannelHop: From the Creator/{{PTEN}} syndicated package to TNT for the final season.
10th Feb '17 8:52:20 PM creader
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn.
** If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\
Well, there's a reason for that. Ivanova's message from the future was supposed to be a {{call forward}} to the ''other'' 5-year series JMS wanted to do that got (mercifully) abandoned at some point: Where [=B5=] fell after [[TheBadGuyWins failing to bring peace]] and Sinclair stole [=B4=], in order to set up a spinoff. In the original storyline, it was the Minbari attacking [=B5=] and destroying it, not the Shadows. The Shadows were supposed to be ultimately defeated during the spin off series: ''[[http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/synopsis-of-jmss-synopsis-of-the-original-arc-for-b5-spoilers.53739/ Babylon Prime.]]''\\\
Of course once Michael O'Hare left they very well couldn't use that ending (since it all hinged on Sinclair). Coupled with worries about even getting [=B5=] finished, JMS merged his original plan for ''Babylon 5'' (basically what we got in season 1 & 3.5) and ''Babylon Prime'' (seasons 3.5 & 5) to create the [=B5=] we got. "War without End" was then used to retconn the vision as being about the Shadows attacking and not the Minbari (whose civil war story line was now moved to season 4). It also allowed the show to better tie together the show by establishing everything was a causality loop.\\\
Considering what JMS was dealing with it's kind of amazing how he managed to pull things off. He combined two 5-year series into a single series. Leading to at most the only complaint being about why the Shadows would bother with a "ground" attack; a minor question mark.
** The reason why the end of season 4 seems so crowded, and the beginning of season 5 seems mostly composed of [[{{Padding}} filler]], is because the show was originally going to be cancelled after four seasons due to Creator/{{PTEN}} going under. Season 4 was originally intended to end with the episode "Intersections in Real Time", and the Earth Civil War would be resolved at the beginning of season 5. Instead, the events of season 4 were shortened by four episodes (removing a story arc about Londo and G'Kar returning to Centauri Prime), and the resolution to the Earth Civil War arc was crammed into three super-dense episodes followed by the grand finale.\\\
Then, at the last, minute the show's fifth season was picked up by cable network {{Creator/TNT}} -- but now they'd already used half a season's worth of material. They filled the gap by stretching the telepath-colony arc from three episodes to '''eleven''' and re-inserting the aforementioned Londo-and-G'Kar arc, as well as including standalone filler episodes ranging in quality, from the yawner "A View from the Gallery" to Creator/NeilGaiman's marvelous "Day Of The Dead".\\\
A new standalone season 4 finale was also hastily shot, with the finale "Sleeping in Light" held back to the end of season 5.
27th Jan '17 8:08:55 AM CheeseDogX
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** Also in the "still funny" category; when Zathras proclaims that he is "trained in crisis management." Buzzwords like that were huge in the 90s.
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