History Trivia / BabylonFive

18th Jun '16 5:35:11 AM Doug86
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** JMS was a frequent poster on the {{Usenet}} group rec.arts.tv.scifi.babylon5.moderated during the show's run.

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** JMS was a frequent poster on the {{Usenet}} Website/{{Usenet}} group rec.arts.tv.scifi.babylon5.moderated during the show's run.
24th Mar '16 5:49:41 PM Prfnoff
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* HeyItsThatGuy:
** Primary and recurring cast members included Andrea Thompson (''Series/{{JAG}}'', ''Series/NYPDBlue''), Bruce Boxleitner (''Film/{{Tron}}'', ''Series/ScarecrowAndMrsKing''), Bill Mumy (''Series/LostInSpace''), Stephen Furst (''Film/AnimalHouse''), and Jeff Conaway (''Film/{{Grease}}'', ''Series/{{Taxi}}'').
** Guest appearances included: [=Bruce McGill=] (''Film/AnimalHouse''), [=David McCallum=] (''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'', ''Series/SapphireAndSteel''), Creator/DavidWarner, Creator/BradDourif, Ken Foree (''Film/DawnOfTheDead1978''), Sarah Douglas (''Film/SupermanII''), Russ Tamblyn (''TwinPeaks''), Creator/WilliamSanderson (''Film/BladeRunner''), Richard Moll (''Series/NightCourt''), and June Lockhart (''Series/LostInSpace'', ''Series/{{Lassie}}'')
** For some crossover ''Trek'' appeal: Creator/WalterKoenig, Creator/JeffreyCombs (as a Psi Cop), Creator/HarlanEllison (as another Psi Cop, as well as various voices), Creator/DwightSchultz, and Paul Winfield (''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''). Majel Barrett-Roddenberry (The whole ''Franchise/StarTrek'' franchise) did a guest appearance as a gesture to reconcile the ''Trek''/''B5'' FandomRivalry.
** While Londo was his most visible role, Peter Jurasik is a character actor with over thirty years and 70 roles under his belt; for our purposes it's most interesting that he, like Boxleitner and David Warner, was in ''Film/{{Tron}}'' (as CROM, an accounting program destined for the games grid).
** Catherine Sakai? You mean [[Film/RamboFirstBloodPartII Rambo's girlfriend?]] (''She had a man on every Earth colony and outpost from here to Beta 7''...)
** You might recognize Callier (''In the Beginning'') as Tempus from ''Series/LoisAndClark.'' Only one scene, though.
** Ken Jenkins (Dr. Stubbs on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', later Dr. Kelso on ''{{Series/Scrubs}}'') chews the scenery as Hall, a Clark loyalist. To keep the universe in balance, the mustache-twirling [=Bart McCarthy=] (Shakiri) appears on [=DS9=] as a staid, good guy Admiral.
* HeyItsThatVoice: Numerous examples.
** Byron the telepath is also the Medic from ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', among many others.
** When the computer is rebooted after a systems shutdown, it comes back online with an obnoxious, stubborn personality voiced by (whi else?) Creator/HarlanEllison. He also provided the voice for Zooty's talking prop when comedians Rebo and Zooty visited the station.
** John Vickery (Neroon) originated the role of Scar in the Broadway version of ''Disney/TheLionKing'', a role which he dedicated to his daughter. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUA6rvPnigs You can hear him]] on the '97 cast album.
** Ardwright Chamberlain -- Nicolai of ''VideoGame/ShadowHeartsCovenant'' -- is Kosh.
** Mel Winkler, Aku Aku from the ''Franchise/CrashBandicoot'' series, appears in the episode "And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place".
** In the 2002 TV movie ''Legend Of The Rangers'', Sarah Cantrell is played by Myriam Sirois -- better known to a generation of North American anime fans as the voice of Akane Tendo from the English dub of ''Anime/RanmaOneHalf''.
** Kathryn Cressida who plays Kat the Bartender, seen in the first two seasons in the Earth Force bar, shouldn't be allowed near the fusion reactor's button or she might say, "[[Westernanimation/DextersLaboratory Oooh. What does this button do?]]"
10th Mar '16 4:43:57 PM Conhale
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*** The Minbari association with 3 would seem, however, to explain Deep Space Nine's titular station design. Three sections (core, habitat, docking), three sets of docking pylons, three vertical docking levels (2-pylon and 1-ring), 9 docking ports around the perimeter, three spokes...



* HugoAward: The Hugo award the show won, for either "''The Coming of Shadows''" (1996) or "''Severed Dreams''" (1997) appeared in on Ivanova's desk in "''Sleeping in Light''".

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* HugoAward: The Hugo award the show won, for either "''The Coming of Shadows''" (1996) or "''Severed Dreams''" (1997) appeared in on Ivanova's desk in "''Sleeping in Light''".
30th Jan '16 12:25:13 PM hamonrye
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** Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn. See "What Could Have Been", below.

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** Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn. See "What Could Have Been", below.burn.
** If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\
Well, there's a reason for that. Ivanova's message from the future was supposed to be a {{call forward}} to the ''other'' 5-year series JMS wanted to do that got (mercifully) abandoned at some point: Where [=B5=] fell after [[TheBadGuyWins failing to bring peace]] and Sinclair stole [=B4=], in order to set up a spinoff. In the original storyline, it was the Minbari attacking [=B5=] and destroying it, not the Shadows. The Shadows were supposed to be ultimately defeated during the spin off series: ''[[http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/synopsis-of-jmss-synopsis-of-the-original-arc-for-b5-spoilers.53739/ Babylon Prime.]]''\\\
Of course once Michael O'Hare left they very well couldn't use that ending (since it all hinged on Sinclair). Coupled with worries about even getting [=B5=] finished, JMS merged his original plan for ''Babylon 5'' (basically what we got in season 1 & 3.5) and ''Babylon Prime'' (seasons 3.5 & 5) to create the [=B5=] we got. "War without End" was then used to retconn the vision as being about the Shadows attacking and not the Minbari (whose civil war story line was now moved to season 4). It also allowed the show to better tie together the show by establishing everything was a causality loop.\\\
Considering what JMS was dealing with it's kind of amazing how he managed to pull things off. He combined two 5-year series into a single series. Leading to at most the only complaint being about why the Shadows would bother with a "ground" attack; a minor question mark.



** Claudia broke her ankle during "The Geometry of Shadows" but, thanks to a hasty rewrite (Susan getting trampled by the Drazi), was able to work through it. Though she might have wished it hadn't as filming the scene aggravated the injury, generating such a blood-curdling scream that it was rumored she actually broke it ''during'' filming.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Actress Caitlin Brown (Na'toth) unsuccessfully auditioned for the part of Delenn in the pilot and Ivanova in the series.
** The role of Knight Two in "And the Sky Full of Stars" was originally offered to [[Series/ThePrisoner Patrick McGoohan]] (who couldn't fit it into his filming schedule) and then WalterKoenig (who was too ill to take it). Koenig, of course, was [[HappyEnding later cast as Alfred Bester]].
** It was long planned that Creator/HarlanEllison would write an episode, probably to be called "Demon In The Dust/On The Run", as a sequel to his 1964 ''[[Series/TheOuterLimits Outer Limits]]'' episode "Demon With A Glass Hand". Unfortunately the episode never materialized
** Many events in the series would have had much greater impact if so many actors hadn't left the show.
*** Originally, Catherine Sakai would have been the one to go missing while investigating [=ZaHaDum=], not Anna Sheridan, meaning that her subsequent [[spoiler:return as a Shadow MeatPuppet and death]] would have carried considerably more impact than it did with the previously-unseen ChekhovMIA Anna Sheridan (and it would have doubled as [[spoiler:DeathOfTheHypotenuse]]!).
*** Commander Takashima would have been revealed to be housing a Psi-Corps sleeper personality if Tamlyn Tomita had stayed, and it would have been her who shot Garibaldi at the end of season one rather than a very minor background character.
*** The [[spoiler:sacrifice by Sheridan at [=ZaHaDum=]]] would have been more meaningful given Sinclair's DeathSeeker tendencies, as would Lorien's question about what he had that was worth living for.
*** Garibaldi's [[spoiler:betrayal of Sheridan]] would have cut all the deeper if it had been of his "old friend" Sinclair.
*** Remember that Talia had her Psi power boosted by Ironhorse. When the actress left, they had to bring back Lyta and have her boosted by the Vorlons to fill Talia's role. So Talia would've been in the Byron role: the advocate for rogue telapaths trying to form a colony on [=B5=], while Ivanova would've been [[LovedINotHonorMore torn between her feelings for Talia and her duty.]] That would've been much better, a-yup.
*** If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\
Well, there's a reason for that. Ivanova's message from the future was supposed to be a {{call forward}} to the ''other'' 5-year series JMS wanted to do that got (mercifully) abandoned at some point: Where [=B5=] fell after [[TheBadGuyWins failing to bring peace]] and Sinclair stole [=B4=], in order to set up a spinoff. In the original storyline, it was the Minbari attacking [=B5=] and destroying it, not the Shadows. The Shadows were supposed to be ultimately defeated during the spin off series: ''[[http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/synopsis-of-jmss-synopsis-of-the-original-arc-for-b5-spoilers.53739/ Babylon Prime.]]''\\\
Of course once Michael O'Hare left they very well couldn't use that ending (since it all hinged on Sinclair). Coupled with worries about even getting [=B5=] finished, JMS merged his original plan for ''Babylon 5'' (basically what we got in season 1 & 3.5) and ''Babylon Prime'' (seasons 3.5 & 5) to create the [=B5=] we got. "War without End" was then used to retconn the vision as being about the Shadows attacking and not the Minbari (whose civil war story line was now moved to season 4). It also allowed the show to better tie together the show by establishing everything was a causality loop.\\\
Considering what JMS was dealing with it's kind of amazing how he managed to pull things off. He combined two 5-year series into a single series. Leading to at most the only complaint being about why the Shadows would bother with a "ground" attack; a minor question mark.



** Claudia Christian [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/e06eab5bc96626d2db817292d85be254/tumblr_nc9buxZjCd1qc2k4vo1_500.jpg broke her ankle]] between shoots and phoned the studio to inform them, certain that her character was going to be written out. Instead, JMS simply wrote her accident into the script (getting trampled by the Drazi) and production continued. Though she might have wished it hadn't as filming the scene aggravated the injury, leading to her giving such a pain-filled scream that it was rumored she actually suffered it during filming.

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** It was revealed after Michael O'Hare's death that the ''real'' reason for Sinclair's departure was that O'Hare had schizophrenia. JMS actually offered to put the show on hold for a year so he could get treatment, but O'Hare refused to be the reason so many people lost their jobs, especially since there was no guarantee the show would come BACK. The wrap-up with Sinclair filmed after he managed to get his schizophrenia under control.
** Claudia Christian [[http://40.media.tumblr.com/e06eab5bc96626d2db817292d85be254/tumblr_nc9buxZjCd1qc2k4vo1_500.jpg broke her ankle]] between shoots and phoned the studio to inform them, certain that her character was going to be written out. Instead, JMS simply wrote her accident into the script (getting trampled by the Drazi) and production continued. Though she might have wished it hadn't as filming the scene aggravated the injury, leading to her giving such a pain-filled scream that it was rumored she actually suffered it during filming.continued.
30th Jan '16 5:48:32 AM Anddrix
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* AdvertisedExtra: Happened surprisingly frequently. Just having your name in the opening credits didn't necessarily mean you'd be treated like a regular character. Getting this particularly bad, however, were Na'Toth and Warren Keffer. Na'Toth only appeared in five episodes of the first season and ''two'' in the second. The initial actress didn't like the make-up and the second was found to be unsatisfactory. As for Keffer, he was only in the cast for the second season and was purposefully used as little as possible because JMS had the character forced on him.



* CriticalResearchFailure: In the UK's captioning of the show anyway; When Garibaldi heralds an invasion by playing a recording of WesternAnimation/PorkyPig going "Th-th-th-that's all folks!" the captioning misattributes the quote to WesternAnimation/BugsBunny.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: A {{sleeper hit}} in America, the show met with bigger audience across the pond. The conventions back home were modest in attendance, which left the actors actors ill-prepared for the Elvis-like reception they get in the UK.



* RetroactiveRecognition:
** Mira Furlan (Delenn) went on to play a [[WildHair wild-haired]] CrazySurvivalist on ''Series/{{Lost}}''.
** Ken Jenkins (Trevor Hall, captain of the Heracles) later played Dr. Kelso on ''Series/{{Scrubs}}''.
** Matthew Stoner [[Series/{{Angel}} only got creepier as he got older]]. Plus he ''really'' hates spiky-haired vampires.
** Creator/BryanCranston appears in "The Long Night" as a dedicated Ranger captain.



* TechnologyMarchesOn: The thick digital tablets used by the station personnel might have looked futuristic in the mid 90's when the show was produced. Also, the [[SnowyScreenOfDeath snowy static]] shown on a screen whenever a camera is taken out is jarring if you are used to modern screens that simply switch to a blank black or blue screen when their signal is lost.

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: TechnologyMarchesOn:
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The thick digital tablets used by the station personnel might have looked futuristic in the mid 90's when the show was produced. Also, the [[SnowyScreenOfDeath snowy static]] shown on a screen whenever a camera is taken out is jarring if you are used to modern screens that simply switch to a blank black or blue screen when their signal is lost.



### Originally, Catherine Sakai would have been the one to go missing while investigating [=ZaHaDum=], not Anna Sheridan, meaning that her subsequent [[spoiler:return as a Shadow MeatPuppet and death]] would have carried considerably more impact than it did with the previously-unseen ChekhovMIA Anna Sheridan (and it would have doubled as [[spoiler:DeathOfTheHypotenuse]]!).
### Commander Takashima would have been revealed to be housing a Psi-Corps sleeper personality if Tamlyn Tomita had stayed, and it would have been her who shot Garibaldi at the end of season one rather than a very minor background character.
### The [[spoiler:sacrifice by Sheridan at [=ZaHaDum=]]] would have been more meaningful given Sinclair's DeathSeeker tendencies, as would Lorien's question about what he had that was worth living for.
### Garibaldi's [[spoiler:betrayal of Sheridan]] would have cut all the deeper if it had been of his "old friend" Sinclair.
### Remember that Talia had her Psi power boosted by Ironhorse. When the actress left, they had to bring back Lyta and have her boosted by the Vorlons to fill Talia's role. So Talia would've been in the Byron role: the advocate for rogue telapaths trying to form a colony on [=B5=], while Ivanova would've been [[LovedINotHonorMore torn between her feelings for Talia and her duty.]] That would've been much better, a-yup.
###If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\

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### *** Originally, Catherine Sakai would have been the one to go missing while investigating [=ZaHaDum=], not Anna Sheridan, meaning that her subsequent [[spoiler:return as a Shadow MeatPuppet and death]] would have carried considerably more impact than it did with the previously-unseen ChekhovMIA Anna Sheridan (and it would have doubled as [[spoiler:DeathOfTheHypotenuse]]!).
### *** Commander Takashima would have been revealed to be housing a Psi-Corps sleeper personality if Tamlyn Tomita had stayed, and it would have been her who shot Garibaldi at the end of season one rather than a very minor background character.
### *** The [[spoiler:sacrifice by Sheridan at [=ZaHaDum=]]] would have been more meaningful given Sinclair's DeathSeeker tendencies, as would Lorien's question about what he had that was worth living for.
### *** Garibaldi's [[spoiler:betrayal of Sheridan]] would have cut all the deeper if it had been of his "old friend" Sinclair.
### *** Remember that Talia had her Psi power boosted by Ironhorse. When the actress left, they had to bring back Lyta and have her boosted by the Vorlons to fill Talia's role. So Talia would've been in the Byron role: the advocate for rogue telapaths trying to form a colony on [=B5=], while Ivanova would've been [[LovedINotHonorMore torn between her feelings for Talia and her duty.]] That would've been much better, a-yup.
###If *** If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\



* HugoAward: The Hugo award the show won, for either "''The Coming of Shadows''" (1996) or "''Severed Dreams''" (1997) appeared in on Ivanova's desk in "''Sleeping in Light''"

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* HugoAward: The Hugo award the show won, for either "''The Coming of Shadows''" (1996) or "''Severed Dreams''" (1997) appeared in on Ivanova's desk in "''Sleeping in Light''"Light''".
30th Jan '16 5:33:22 AM hamonrye
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** The reason why the end of season 4 seems so crowded, and the beginning of season 5 seems mostly composed of [[{{Padding}} filler]], is because the show was originally going to be cancelled after four seasons due to Creator/{{PTEN}} goin gunder. Season 4 was originally intended to end with the episode "Intersections in Real Time", and the Earth Civil War would be resolved at the beginning of season 5. Instead, the events of season 4 were shortened by four episodes (removing a story arc about Londo and G'Kar returning to Centauri Prime), and the resolution to the Earth Civil War arc was crammed into three super-dense episodes followed by the grand finale.\\\

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** The reason why the end of season 4 seems so crowded, and the beginning of season 5 seems mostly composed of [[{{Padding}} filler]], is because the show was originally going to be cancelled after four seasons due to Creator/{{PTEN}} goin gunder.going under. Season 4 was originally intended to end with the episode "Intersections in Real Time", and the Earth Civil War would be resolved at the beginning of season 5. Instead, the events of season 4 were shortened by four episodes (removing a story arc about Londo and G'Kar returning to Centauri Prime), and the resolution to the Earth Civil War arc was crammed into three super-dense episodes followed by the grand finale.\\\
30th Jan '16 5:33:08 AM hamonrye
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn. See "What Could Have Been", below.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
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Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn. See "What Could Have Been", below.below.
** The reason why the end of season 4 seems so crowded, and the beginning of season 5 seems mostly composed of [[{{Padding}} filler]], is because the show was originally going to be cancelled after four seasons due to Creator/{{PTEN}} goin gunder. Season 4 was originally intended to end with the episode "Intersections in Real Time", and the Earth Civil War would be resolved at the beginning of season 5. Instead, the events of season 4 were shortened by four episodes (removing a story arc about Londo and G'Kar returning to Centauri Prime), and the resolution to the Earth Civil War arc was crammed into three super-dense episodes followed by the grand finale.\\\
Then, at the last, minute the show's fifth season was picked up by cable network {{Creator/TNT}} -- but now they'd already used half a season's worth of material. They filled the gap by stretching the telepath-colony arc from three episodes to '''eleven''' and re-inserting the aforementioned Londo-and-G'Kar arc, as well as including standalone filler episodes ranging in quality, from the yawner "A View from the Gallery" to Creator/NeilGaiman's marvelous "Day Of The Dead".\\\
A new standalone season 4 finale was also hastily shot, with the finale "Sleeping in Light" held back to the end of season 5.



** The reason why the end of season 4 seems so crowded, and the beginning of season 5 seems mostly composed of filler, is because the show was originally going to be cancelled after four seasons due to Creator/{{PTEN}} failing. Season 4 was originally intended to end with the episode "Intersections in Real Time", and the Earth Civil War would be resolved at the beginning of season 5. Instead, the events of season 4 were shortened by four episodes (removing a story arc about Londo and G'Kar returning to Centauri Prime), and the resolution to the Earth Civil War arc was crammed into three super-dense [[WhamEpisode Wham Episodes]] followed by the GrandFinale. Then at the last minute the show's fifth season was picked up by cable network TNT -- but now they'd already used half a season's worth of material. They filled the gap by stretching the telepath-colony arc from three episodes to '''eleven''' and re-inserting the aforementioned Londo-and-G'Kar arc, as well as including standalone filler episodes ranging in quality from the yawner "A View from the Gallery" to Creator/NeilGaiman's marvelous "Day Of The Dead". A new standalone season 4 finale was also hastily shot, with the GrandFinale "Sleeping in Light" held back to the end of season 5.
30th Jan '16 5:27:30 AM hamonrye
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* [[AuthorExistenceFailure Actor Existence Failure]]: When asked about sequels, Straczynski was known to say that he didn't see how it would be possible "so long as Andreas Katsulas, (G'Kar) and Richard Biggs (Dr. Franklin) remain dead." That said, he did ''The Lost Tales'' after their passing, and now with his Hollywood success, there seem to be very early feelers out about a real [[TheMovie movie]].

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* [[AuthorExistenceFailure Actor Existence Failure]]: Failure]]:
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When asked about sequels, Straczynski was known to say that he didn't see how it would be possible "so long as Andreas Katsulas, (G'Kar) and Richard Biggs (Dr. Franklin) remain dead." That said, he did ''The Lost Tales'' after their passing, and now with his Hollywood success, there seem to be very early feelers out about a real [[TheMovie movie]].



* AuthorsSavingThrow: Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Numerous, but Michael O'Hare having to leave B5 due to struggles with mental illness is the biggest. Had he stayed, the "War without End" story would have been at the end of Season 5 and had a much longer burn. See "What Could Have Been", below.



###If you stop to think about it, the BadFuture in "War Without End" doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If Valen never travels to the past, who is to say [=B5=] (to say nothing of [=B4=]) would even exist, with all its senior staff still in place? No Valen means no Grey Council, which would upset a lot of events in [=B5=] history. Why would the Shadows use torch cutters in order to fight hand-to-claw (so to speak) when they're just going to blow the station up with their ships anyway?\\\
Well, there's a reason for that. Ivanova's message from the future was supposed to be a {{call forward}} to the ''other'' 5-year series JMS wanted to do that got (mercifully) abandoned at some point: Where [=B5=] fell after [[TheBadGuyWins failing to bring peace]] and Sinclair stole [=B4=], in order to set up a spinoff. In the original storyline, it was the Minbari attacking [=B5=] and destroying it, not the Shadows. The Shadows were supposed to be ultimately defeated during the spin off series: ''[[http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/synopsis-of-jmss-synopsis-of-the-original-arc-for-b5-spoilers.53739/ Babylon Prime.]]''\\\
Of course once Michael O'Hare left they very well couldn't use that ending (since it all hinged on Sinclair). Coupled with worries about even getting [=B5=] finished, JMS merged his original plan for ''Babylon 5'' (basically what we got in season 1 & 3.5) and ''Babylon Prime'' (seasons 3.5 & 5) to create the [=B5=] we got. "War without End" was then used to retconn the vision as being about the Shadows attacking and not the Minbari (whose civil war story line was now moved to season 4). It also allowed the show to better tie together the show by establishing everything was a causality loop.\\\
Considering what JMS was dealing with it's kind of amazing how he managed to pull things off. He combined two 5-year series into a single series. Leading to at most the only complaint being about why the Shadows would bother with a "ground" attack; a minor question mark.



** Oddly for Garibaldi (Sinclair's most trusted pal) he never crossed paths with his "old friend" in Season 3, instead communicating over an old video recording. This is because Doyle and O'Hare got into a fight when the latter became schizophrenic. Eventually, Doyle gave an ultimatum saying he'd quit if O'Hare remained on the show. Clearly, this ultimatum was still in effect for season 3 (according to Doyle, they'd promised to kick each other's asses) which is why Doyle doesn't share any screen time with him.

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** Oddly for Garibaldi (Sinclair's most trusted pal) Garibaldi, he never crossed paths with his "old friend" in Season 3, instead communicating over an old video recording. This is because Doyle and O'Hare got into a fight when the latter became schizophrenic. Eventually, Doyle gave an ultimatum saying he'd quit if O'Hare remained on the show. Clearly, this ultimatum was still in effect for season 3 (according to Doyle, they'd promised to kick each other's asses) which is why Doyle doesn't share any screen time with him.
26th Jan '16 5:53:00 AM fauxtoast
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** A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems. O'Hare was a schizophrenic. Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful. Most of the B5 core cast is still tight-knit to this day, particularly Claudia Christian, Bruce Boxleitner, and Mira Furlan. (Furlan even says that Boxleitner is still their "Captain.") Andreas Katulas and Peter Jurasik were best friends up until Katulas' death from terminal lung cancer.

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** A lot of the cast was dealing with deep personal issues during the show, more so than usual for the entertainment industry. Michael O'Hare was a schizophrenic, which led to his replacement, Claudia Christian was a rape survivor who later became a severe alcoholic (she's doing well now), and Jeff Conaway had serious drug problems. O'Hare was a schizophrenic.problems (which contributed to the pneumonia that ultimately killed him). Yet the cast had amazing chemistry together. It's really amazing how they've all stuck together despite what they've been through, and it makes the story arcs where the characters deal with personal issues even more meaningful. Most of the B5 core cast is still tight-knit to this day, particularly Claudia Christian, Bruce Boxleitner, and Mira Furlan. (Furlan even says that Boxleitner is still their "Captain.") Andreas Katulas and Peter Jurasik were best friends up until Katulas' death from terminal lung cancer.
26th Jan '16 5:44:58 AM fauxtoast
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** [[spoiler: Anna Sheridan (played by Beth Toussaint) first appeared in a message to her sister-in-law, recorded prior to her disappearance. Toussaint wasn't available for the episode where Anna returns as a Shadow agent; Melissa Gilbert (Bruce Boxleitner's real-life spouse) was cast in her place]].

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** [[spoiler: Anna Sheridan (played by Beth Toussaint) first appeared in a message to her sister-in-law, recorded prior to her disappearance. Toussaint wasn't available for the episode where Anna returns as a Shadow agent; Melissa Gilbert (Bruce Boxleitner's real-life spouse) spouse at the time) was cast in her place]].
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