History TheyChangedItNowItSucks / VideoGames

25th Apr '16 7:53:06 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* SaintsRow fans have been expressing their seething hatred for the direction the series has taken since ''Saints Row The Third.'' Many are upset that the games left their 'gangsta' style behind, while others are so upset about the death of [[spoiler:Johnny Gat]] they want him to return despite being canonically killed off, and many others complain that things like super powers are childish and don't belong in the series.

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* SaintsRow fans have been expressing their seething hatred for the direction the series has taken since ''Saints Row The Third.'' Many are upset that the games left their 'gangsta' style behind, while others are so upset about the death of [[spoiler:Johnny Gat]] they want him to return despite being canonically killed off, and off. They got their wish in ''Saints Row IV'', which retconned Johnny Gat's [offscreen] death into a HesJustHiding situation, but still many others complain that the increased silliness and things like super powers superpowers are childish and don't belong in the series.



** ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' and ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' also received flak for being dumb-downed versions of their predecessors.

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** ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' and ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' also received flak for being dumb-downed versions of their predecessors. ''Infinite'' gets this to a lesser extent than ''2'', which included a multiplayer mode, something many fans consider to be antithetical to ''[=BioShock=]'''s single player, narrative-driven appeal.
7th Mar '16 2:48:29 PM catmuto
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* ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'', despite each game also being criticized for how similar they all were, did have a lot of complaints on a few changes:

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* ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys'', despite each game also being criticized for how similar they all were, did have a lot of complaints on a few changes:changes.


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** The fourth game was immediately criticized for not taking place in a Fazbear's location, but in a regular house, instead.
18th Feb '16 8:31:10 AM SaraJaye
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** When the removal of a feature named "Skinship" in the western release of ''Fates'' was announced, many of those who started with Awakening and its romance system were outraged over not being able to pet their Waifu/Husbando; some even declared that they would not buy it ''just because of that''. Those who started with earlier games in the series, on the other hand, felt that such a questionable feature didn't belong in a strategy RPG in the first place.

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** When the removal alteration of a feature named "Skinship" in the western release of ''Fates'' was announced, many of those who started with Awakening and its romance system were outraged over not being able to pet their Waifu/Husbando; some even declared that they would not buy it ''just because of that''. Those who started with earlier games in the series, on the other hand, felt that such a questionable feature didn't belong in a strategy RPG in the first place. Ultimately, the feature was kept, but only for characters the Avatar is married to.
*** Really, pretty much every single change made by the localization has been met with this reaction. While disappointment or surprise ''is'' understandable considering the fandom's been exposed to only the Japanese version until very recently, some fans acted as though one name change or one dialogue alteration meant the game was being totally dumbed down and sanitized. Comparisons to ''Creator/FourKidsEntertainment'' have even been made.
8th Feb '16 8:10:38 AM supershadow2021
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** When the removal of a character-petting minigame in the western release of ''Fates'' was announced (yes, it really exists in the Japanese version), many of those who started with Awakening and its romance system were outraged over not being able to touch a cartoon image on a screen; some even declared that they would not buy it ''just because of that''. Those who started with earlier games in the series, on the other hand, largely agreed that a dating sim feature didn't belong in a serious strategy RPG in the first place, and nothing of value was lost with its removal.

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** When the removal of a character-petting minigame feature named "Skinship" in the western release of ''Fates'' was announced (yes, it really exists in the Japanese version), announced, many of those who started with Awakening and its romance system were outraged over not being able to touch a cartoon image on a screen; pet their Waifu/Husbando; some even declared that they would not buy it ''just because of that''. Those who started with earlier games in the series, on the other hand, largely agreed felt that such a dating sim questionable feature didn't belong in a serious strategy RPG in the first place, and nothing of value was lost with its removal.place.
31st Jan '16 4:26:47 PM Steven
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* The mobile versions of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' were met with absolute hatred since both games use the GBA scripts instead of the SNES originals and both games had their graphics updated, which also brought about changes to the character sprites that make them look more colorful and stylized. Fans were livid once again when the Steam release of both games were just the mobile versions.
28th Jan '16 6:32:24 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Melee is known for its fast-paced duels involving very technical combos, along with exploits such as lag-canceling and wavedashing. All of that was changed in Brawl, which was designed to be less reflex-demanding; the gameplay is slower, the physics don't allow for the combos that worked in Melee, and wavedashing and lag-canceling from were removed. Some were also disappointed at the removal of certain features or characters, like Race to the Finish and Mewtwo, although most of these had some kind of replacement (Subspace Emissary, Lucario). Granted, [[ReplacementScrappy not everyone's happy with the replacement]]. It's worth noting that Lucario isn't a direct replacement. Evidence in the game's code shows that both Mewtwo and Lucario were considered for the game at some point.

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* ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Melee ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosMelee'' is known for its fast-paced duels involving very technical combos, along with exploits such as lag-canceling and wavedashing. All of that was changed in Brawl, which was designed to be less reflex-demanding; the gameplay is slower, the physics don't allow for the combos that worked in Melee, and wavedashing and lag-canceling from were removed. Some were also disappointed at the removal of certain features or characters, like Race to the Finish and Mewtwo, although most of these had some kind of replacement (Subspace Emissary, Lucario). Granted, [[ReplacementScrappy not everyone's happy with the replacement]]. It's worth noting that Lucario isn't a direct replacement. Evidence in the game's code shows that both Mewtwo and Lucario were considered for the game at some point.



** Some of the series' Western fans have this reaction to Nintendo's [[DolledUpInstallment continued]] [[NoExportForYou refusal]] to showcase any of the original ''Panel de Pon'' characters outside of ''SuperSmashBros'' despite the growing popularity of {{moe}} in the western world.

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** Some of the series' Western fans have this reaction to Nintendo's [[DolledUpInstallment continued]] [[NoExportForYou refusal]] to showcase any of the original ''Panel de Pon'' characters outside of ''SuperSmashBros'' ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' despite the growing popularity of {{moe}} in the western world.
27th Jan '16 4:17:45 PM FallenDelf
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* Fans of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrolls'' are vocally divided between ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''. The ''Morrowind'' fans seem to be the most vocal, outright calling ''Skyrim'' a "dumbed-down casual game".

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* Fans of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrolls'' are vocally divided between ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''. The ''Morrowind'' fans seem to be the most vocal, outright calling ''Skyrim'' a "dumbed-down casual game".
27th Jan '16 6:18:38 AM OrangeKyle91
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** When the removal of a character-petting minigame in the western release of ''Fates'' was announced (yes, it really exists in the Japanese version), many of those who started with Awakening and its romance system were outraged over not being able to touch a cartoon image on a screen; some even declared that they would not buy it ''just because of that''. Those who started with earlier games in the series, on the other hand, largely agreed that a dating sim feature didn't belong in a serious strategy RPG in the first place, and nothing of value was lost with its removal.
21st Jan '16 5:38:53 PM nombretomado
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** The ''Skunk'' carries {{attack drone}}s in lieu of {{space fighter}}s. You can control them remotely, but if the drone you're controlling is destroyed you return to control of the ''Skunk'' instead of dying. This takes the danger out of being a fighter jock, for those who enjoy it. The game is only going to be available on {{Steam}}, a platform that's a BaseBreaker to the point where the moderators have basically banned talking about it anywhere but the tech support board.

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** The ''Skunk'' carries {{attack drone}}s in lieu of {{space fighter}}s. You can control them remotely, but if the drone you're controlling is destroyed you return to control of the ''Skunk'' instead of dying. This takes the danger out of being a fighter jock, for those who enjoy it. The game is only going to be available on {{Steam}}, UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}, a platform that's a BaseBreaker to the point where the moderators have basically banned talking about it anywhere but the tech support board.
14th Jan '16 7:07:29 PM nombretomado
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** When SquareEnix games are ported, they frequently get new translations. If the old translations were completely incompetent (like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV''), no one really cares much. But heaven forbid the original was halfway competent, particularly if it was written by [[{{Woolseyism}} Ted Woolsey]] (who had to work within time constraints and the limitations imposed by the need to fit the game into a 24 megabit cartridge and [[NeverSayDie Nintendo of America's censorship policies]].) The script may be an outright improvement, but fans will whine left and right.

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** When SquareEnix Creator/SquareEnix games are ported, they frequently get new translations. If the old translations were completely incompetent (like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV''), no one really cares much. But heaven forbid the original was halfway competent, particularly if it was written by [[{{Woolseyism}} Ted Woolsey]] (who had to work within time constraints and the limitations imposed by the need to fit the game into a 24 megabit cartridge and [[NeverSayDie Nintendo of America's censorship policies]].) The script may be an outright improvement, but fans will whine left and right.
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