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* ''ComicBook/TheNextBatmanSecondSon'' got flack for retconning that Lucius Fox, who was originally one of the few people in Gotham Batman could trust, was a distant father and [[spoiler:used an ArmyOfLawyers to help his son Jace avoid jail time as part of Jace's backstory]] and in the present, Lucius becoming a fascist by being willing to help take the steps that turn Gotham into the PoliceState seen in ''ComicBook/DCFutureState'', whereas for some, Lucius and his faimly having TookALevelInJerkass by [[spoiler:keeping the money the Joker stole from Bruce]] and turning against the Batfamily after the events of ''ComicBook/TheJokerWar'' was understandable. And even then, there's fans with issues with ''that'', too.

* ''ComicBook/TheNextBatmanSecondSon'' got flack for retconning that Lucius Fox, who was originally one of the few people in Gotham Batman could trust, was a distant father and used an ArmyOfLawyers to help his son Jace avoid jail time as part of Jace's backstory and in the present, Lucius going full-on fascist being willing to help turn Gotham into the PoliceState seen in ''ComicBook/DCFutureState'', whereas for some, Lucius and his faimly having TookALevelInJerkass by keeping the money the Joker stole from Bruce and turning against the Batfamily after the events of ''ComicBook/TheJokerWar'' was understandable. And even then, there's fans with issues with ''that'', too.

** Creator/KevinSmith {{retcon}}ning RapeAsBackstory for Black Cat's origin was received negatively by many fans, who saw it as the unnecessary darkening of what'd been a rather light-hearted character.

* Franchise/WonderWoman's New 52 revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter when before it was key that she had no father and Zeus had no part in her creation. It doesn't help that her mother is Ares' daughter meaning Zeus is now Diana's great-grandfather and her dad.

* ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'': Back in 2009 DC took steps to correct several issues which had plagued ''[[ComicBook/Supergirl2005 her Post-Crisis title]]'', such like excessive, disturbing fanservice. Artist Jamal Igle started to drawing bike shorts under Supergirl's skirt, which led to fans [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2009/06/what-more-bike-shorts-talk.html complaining]] [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2009/07/one-last-bike-shorts-post.html loudly]], to the point that Newsrama and other comic sites echoed the "controversy".

* [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse The Disney Ducks Comic Universe]] has several cases of CharacterizationMarchesOn where fans preferred the original version of a character and disliked the changes:

** Paperinik (who became Phantom Duck or the Duck Avenger in the USA, depending on the translations), Donald Duck's secret superheroic identity, was originally [[GrayAndGrayMorality a self-righteous vigilante who mainly used his secret identity to punish Scrooge or Gladstone for what they put the normal Donald through]]. Due to MoralGuardians intervening, Paperinik quickly became [[TheyFightCrime a crime-figthing hero]], but many an Italian fan thinks back with foodness to the first "evil" Paperinik storyline.

** The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], was met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before either decided to abandon it or tried to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers dropped even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerful telepaths.

* ''ComicBook/BrianMichaelBendisSuperman'' was met with intense backlash when he revealed that he'd be aging Jon up to 17. Not only did it skip over interesting CharacterDevelopment for DC's newest and most popular KidAppealCharacter, it aged him ahead of his best friend [[Characters/{{Robin}} Damian]], and the circumstances for it are incredibly contrived (it involves Jon trusting his grandfather Jor-El, who had tried to plunge all of Earth into chaos a scant few months ago). Worse still, the notion of having a teenage Superboy again is entirely redundant, as Bendis brought back Conner Kent in ''[[ComicBook/YoungJustice2019 Young Justice]]'', which Bebdis is also penning.

* Franchise/WonderWoman's New 52 revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.

** Averted however, with [[spoiler: Ultimate Reed Richards' FaceHeelTurn and reemergence as supervillain "The Maker". The Ultimate Comics storyline depicting this was met with praise from critics and fans alike, and The Maker is widely considered to be one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe.]]
** Also averted with ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', which remained popular and well received, [[spoiler: even after Peter Parker was killed and Miles Morales became the new Spider-Man. Like the Maker, he's considered one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe, to the point that he was officially brought into the main Marvel Universe after the Ultimate Universe was destroyed. He's made appearances in cartoons and other merchandise, and even has [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse his own movie]]. BreakoutCharacter doesn't even begin to describe it]].

* With departure of the scenarist, ''Mélusine'' changed the format of the series from 1-2 pages gag to album-length stories with story arcs. Made worse that [[spoiler:fan favorite [[KilledOffForReal Cancrelune is dead]]. Giving that she was one of the main character for nearly 20 years, [[NothingIsTheSameAnymore it signals that the series changed forever]].]] Fans were not pleased judging from the scores and comments on Amazon.

* With departure of the scenarist, ''Mélusine'' changed the format of the series from one-page gag panels to album length stories with story arcs. Fans were not pleased judging from the scores and comments on Amazon. Made worse that [[spoiler: fan favorite [[DrivenToSuicide Cancrelune committed suicide]] and is never coming back.]]

** As noted by coverage at the San Diego Comic Con, this was mostly due to bad advertising where the main blurbs are "see, we're going back to how it used to be" (aggravating contemporary fans, who weren't reading when it was ''how it used to be'') and not giving out details people actually wanted that weren't very spoiler-oriented (Was Tim Drake still Robin in his past? What happens to Stephanie Brown? Did you really just say Ma and Pa Kent are ''both'' dead? Does Wally West exist at all? Why does this feel all Elseworlds-ish?? Etc.)
** Changes to ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} get a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this.
** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]].

* This is the opinion the head writers and editors at DC (led by Creator/DanDidio and Creator/GeoffJohns) had about the changes their predecessors made to Franchise/TheDCU in the 80s and 90s, in particular ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''ComicBook/EmeraldTwilight''. As a result, ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', ''Green Lantern Rebirth'' and the multiple Superman/Batman crossover events retconned those changes, leading to backlash from the current fandom shouting that the current changes have ruined the DCU FOREVER.

* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and ComicBook/TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, Echo, ComicBook/SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.

** Also averted with ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', which remained popular and well received, [[spoiler: even after Peter Parker was killed and another Spider-Man succeeded him]].

** Also averted with ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', which was popular and well received for most of it's run.

** Also averted with ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan, which was popular and well received for most of it's run.

* This is the opinion the head writers and editors at DC (led by Creator/DanDidio and Creator/GeoffJohns) had about the changes their predecessors made to the DCU in the 80s and 90s, in particular ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''Emerald Twilight''. As a result, ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', ''Green Lantern Rebirth'' and the multiple Batman/Superman crossover events have been their way of retconning those changes, leading to backlash from the current ifandom shouting that the current changes have ruined the DCU FOREVER.

** Changes to ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} get a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled compounded with the Asian Batgirl and the Batgirl from a lower-class background being erased was both this and UnfortunateImplications.

* James Robinson's run on ''Justice League of America'' got this reaction, mainly because of his decision to focus on seven second-stringers: Batman (Dick Grayson), Donna Troy, Jesse Quick, Jade, Supergirl, Starman, and Congorilla, rather than on the "real" Justice League (defined by those who complain as either all A-Listers or as whichever team they grew up reading about). Robinson himself is aware of it, and has made it known that he considers this league as "real" as any other, yet this has done little to stop the sheer amount of complaining on DC's official boards. There was some griping about the UnfortunateImplications behind Robinson getting rid of all the non-white characters like Vixen and Doctor Light in order to write a group of his mostly-white [[CreatorsPet pet characters]]. Lampshaded in the final issue, where Batman makes a very thinly-veiled speech about not caring about how poorly his version of the League was received by the public, and that they should be proud of their team.

* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''Creator/DetectiveComics'' was also given to ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.

* ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'': A very large proportion of the Spiderman fandom declared the storyline as its collective BerserkButton, after Creator/JoeQuesada considered dealing with Marvel's answer to Satan (who has since tacitly confirmed that he is Satan) a more realistic way to break up the much loved Spider Marriage than oh, divorce, or something like that. Due to this, the large amount of ExecutiveMeddling and the MarySue new love interest for Peter in the form of Carlie Cooper, it went down like a lead balloon.

*** It doesn't help that Slott is one of the champions of "One More Day", and one of the main points of supporters for "One More Day" is that is made Peter relatable again.
* The main issue with Malibu's attempt at a ''StreetFighter'' [[ComicBook/MalibuComicsStreetFighter comic]]. They took so many liberties with the franchise's canon (including killing Ken - who, keep in mind, is one of the main characters of the franchise - in the ''second issue'') that Creator/{{Capcom}} ''literally stepped in and asked them to stop publishing it''.

* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaSteveRogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is retconned. Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterans and America as a whole.

** Another, even more widely accepepted change with Glomgold is his nationality. He was originally South African. However, foreign comics (and ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'') had him living in Duckburg and never refer to his origins (or, when he did, he was said to be Scottish like Scrooge). The one thing Barks used consistently whenever he used Glomgold was the fact that the character was South African. A few AscendedFanboy[=s=], such as Creator/DonRosa, have since restored him to his original roots from the 1990's onwards.

** Eega Beeva was initially a time-travelling Earth man from the year 3000. When editors decided it just wasn't plausible that humanity would evolve ''that'' much in only one thousand years, he was retconned to simply be an alien. Like Glomgold, from hte 90's onwards, new authors who had grown up with the original time-travelling version changed it ''again'' and emphasized he was a time-traveller. The authors who preferred him as an alien now say he is [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot an alien from the future]].

** Recurring villain Flintheart Glomgold is generally used as Scrooge McDuck's EvilTwin — as rich and tricky as him, but with none of his redeeming qualities such as work ethics or a genuine love for his family. However, his first two appearances under the pen of Carl Barks[[note]] who is basically to the Disney comics universe what Stan Lee is to superhero comics[[/note]] [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness were very different]]: he was not an EvilTwin but a ''complete'' twin, whose fights with Scrooge were all the wackier because Scrooge was basically being pitted against himself. A small but significant portion of the fan base resents that other authors changed Barks' "richer" original vision.

* The main issue with Malibu's attempt at a ''StreetFighter'' [[ComicBook/MalibuComicsStreetFighter comic]]. They took so many liberties with the franchise's canon (including killing Ken - who, keep in mind, is one of the main characters of the franchise - in the ''second issue'') that {{Capcom}} ''literally stepped in and asked them to stop publishing it''.

* This is the opinion the head writers and editors at DC (led by Dan Didio and Geoff Johns) had about the changes their predecessors made to the DCU in the 80s and 90s, in particular ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''Emerald Twilight''. As a result, ''Infinite Crisis'', ''Green Lantern Rebirth'' and the multiple Batman/Superman crossover events have been their way of retconning those changes, leading to backlash from the current ifandom shouting that the current changes have ruined the DCU FOREVER.
* The {{New 52}} relaunch got "They changed it now it sucks" backlash ''before release''.

** Changes to Batgirl get a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled compounded with the Asian Batgirl and the Batgirl from a lower-class background being erased was this and UnfortunateImplications.
** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon Comicbook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]].
* WonderWoman's New 52 revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.
* The [[http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/14/amanda-waller-skinny-thin-reboot/ announcement of slimming up the full-figured Amanda Waller]] resulted in a lot of fans crying foul as they consider her figure to be an integral part of her charm. ("Her nickname's 'The Wall'. That's not a wall, that's a fencepost.") Like other characters post-New 52, Waller also found herself significantly de-aged, which also earned criticisms as the original Amanda Waller was a middle-aged widow with grown children.

* ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'': A very large proportion of the Spiderman fandom declared the storyline as its collective BerserkButton, after JoeQuesada considered dealing with Marvel's answer to Satan (who has since tacitly confirmed that he is Satan) a more realistic way to break up the much loved Spider Marriage than oh, divorce, or something like that. Due to this, the large amount of ExecutiveMeddling and the MarySue new love interest for Peter in the form of Carlie Cooper, it went down like a lead balloon.