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* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is retconned. Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterans and America as a whole.
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* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' ''ComicBook/CaptainAmericaSteveRogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is retconned. Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterans and America as a whole.
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* [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse The Disney Ducks Comic Universe]] has several cases of CharacterizationMarchesOn where fans preferred the original version of a character and disliked the changes:
** Recurring villain Flintheart Glomgold is generally used as Scrooge McDuck's EvilTwin — as rich and tricky as him, but with none of his redeeming qualities such as work ethics or a genuine love for his family. However, his first two appearances under the pen of Carl Barks[[note]] who is basically to the Disney comics universe what Stan Lee is to superhero comics[[/note]] [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness were very different]]: he was not an EvilTwin but a ''complete'' twin, whose fights with Scrooge were all the wackier because Scrooge was basically being pitted against himself. A small but significant portion of the fan base resents that other authors changed Barks' "richer" original vision.
** Another, even more widely accepepted change with Glomgold is his nationality. He was originally South African. However, foreign comics (and ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'') had him living in Duckburg and never refer to his origins (or, when he did, he was said to be Scottish like Scrooge). The one thing Barks used consistently whenever he used Glomgold was the fact that the character was South African. A few AscendedFanboy[=s=], such as Creator/DonRosa, have since restored him to his original roots from the 1990's onwards.
** Paperinik (who became Phantom Duck or the Duck Avenger in the USA, depending on the translations), Donald Duck's secret superheroic identity, was originally [[GrayAndGrayMorality a self-righteous vigilante who mainly used his secret identity to punish Scrooge or Gladstone for what they put the normal Donald through]]. Due to MoralGuardians intervening, Paperinik quickly became [[TheyFightCrime a crime-figthing hero]], but many an Italian fan thinks back with foodness to the first "evil" Paperinik storyline.
** Eega Beeva was initially a time-travelling Earth man from the year 3000. When editors decided it just wasn't plausible that humanity would evolve ''that'' much in only one thousand years, he was retconned to simply be an alien. Like Glomgold, from hte 90's onwards, new authors who had grown up with the original time-travelling version changed it ''again'' and emphasized he was a time-traveller. The authors who preferred him as an alien now say he is [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot an alien from the future]].
** Recurring villain Flintheart Glomgold is generally used as Scrooge McDuck's EvilTwin — as rich and tricky as him, but with none of his redeeming qualities such as work ethics or a genuine love for his family. However, his first two appearances under the pen of Carl Barks[[note]] who is basically to the Disney comics universe what Stan Lee is to superhero comics[[/note]] [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness were very different]]: he was not an EvilTwin but a ''complete'' twin, whose fights with Scrooge were all the wackier because Scrooge was basically being pitted against himself. A small but significant portion of the fan base resents that other authors changed Barks' "richer" original vision.
** Another, even more widely accepepted change with Glomgold is his nationality. He was originally South African. However, foreign comics (and ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales'') had him living in Duckburg and never refer to his origins (or, when he did, he was said to be Scottish like Scrooge). The one thing Barks used consistently whenever he used Glomgold was the fact that the character was South African. A few AscendedFanboy[=s=], such as Creator/DonRosa, have since restored him to his original roots from the 1990's onwards.
** Paperinik (who became Phantom Duck or the Duck Avenger in the USA, depending on the translations), Donald Duck's secret superheroic identity, was originally [[GrayAndGrayMorality a self-righteous vigilante who mainly used his secret identity to punish Scrooge or Gladstone for what they put the normal Donald through]]. Due to MoralGuardians intervening, Paperinik quickly became [[TheyFightCrime a crime-figthing hero]], but many an Italian fan thinks back with foodness to the first "evil" Paperinik storyline.
** Eega Beeva was initially a time-travelling Earth man from the year 3000. When editors decided it just wasn't plausible that humanity would evolve ''that'' much in only one thousand years, he was retconned to simply be an alien. Like Glomgold, from hte 90's onwards, new authors who had grown up with the original time-travelling version changed it ''again'' and emphasized he was a time-traveller. The authors who preferred him as an alien now say he is [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot an alien from the future]].
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** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.
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** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. desperate, or at least not as well off as he is in this story. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man Spider-Man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Spider-Man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.complaining. It mainly comes down to those who feel Peter Parker, the guy who pioneered the relatable superhero, is now incredibly unrelatable and is an Expy of Iron Man.
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** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon Comicbook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]]. So far though, the new Justice League title has been the highest-seller of the reboot.
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** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon Comicbook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]]. So far though, the new Justice League title has been the highest-seller of the reboot.
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** The revelation on the post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' that [[spoiler:she somehow managed to convince Silk to be part of her criminal enterprise]] and she ''absolutely loathes'' the latter trying to be the TokenGoodTeammate (and all of her appearances before that having her being a sociopathic harridan that sees [[spoiler:killing Silk's only means to find her parents]] as "a favor" and seriously wants to recruit people by convincing them that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished and Evil Pays Better (well, it ''will'' with her in charge-she's gunning to become the next Kingpin of New York)).... yeah, people are hating the new her very much.
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** The revelation on the post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' that [[spoiler:she somehow managed to convince Silk to be part of her criminal enterprise]] and she ''absolutely loathes'' the latter trying to be the TokenGoodTeammate (and all of her appearances before that having her being a sociopathic harridan that sees [[spoiler:killing Silk's only means to find her parents]] as "a favor" and seriously wants to recruit people by convincing them that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished and Evil Pays Better (well, Better[[note]]well, it ''will'' with her in charge-she's gunning to become the next Kingpin of New York))....York[[/note]]).... yeah, people are hating the new her very much.
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* While Brazilian comic ''ComicBook/MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-Boo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
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* While Brazilian comic ''ComicBook/MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner long-running comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-Boo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
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* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
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* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' ''Creator/DetectiveComics'' was also given to ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
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* WonderWoman's revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.
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* WonderWoman's New 52 revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.
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* Spider-Man supporting character, ComicBook/BlackCat, has a few changes that were reacted to negatively by many fans:
** During the events of ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' Felicia was attacked by Spider-Ock, and she wound up swearing to get revenge. After Peter's return she became an outright AxCrazy psycho who wants to destroy everything about him and doesn't care that he was under someone else's control, attempting to harm anyone and everything else in the process and even joining forces with several past Spider-Man villains to do so, even several that she used to be enemies with. Fans of Felicia in her AntiHero days have not been happy. The not so subtle implication that this was all done primarily to further solidify [[CreatorsPet Silk]] as Peter's love interest didn't help.
** The revelation on the post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' that [[spoiler:she somehow managed to convince Silk to be part of her criminal enterprise]] and she ''absolutely loathes'' the latter trying to be the TokenGoodTeammate (and all of her appearances before that having her being a sociopathic harridan that sees [[spoiler:killing Silk's only means to find her parents]] as "a favor" and seriously wants to recruit people by convincing them that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished and Evil Pays Better (well, it ''will'' with her in charge-she's gunning to become the next Kingpin of New York)).... yeah, people are hating the new her very much.
** Creator/KevinSmith {{retcon}}ning RapeAsBackstory for Black Cat's origin was received negatively by many fans, who saw it as the unnecessary darkening of what'd been a rather light-hearted character.
** During the events of ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' Felicia was attacked by Spider-Ock, and she wound up swearing to get revenge. After Peter's return she became an outright AxCrazy psycho who wants to destroy everything about him and doesn't care that he was under someone else's control, attempting to harm anyone and everything else in the process and even joining forces with several past Spider-Man villains to do so, even several that she used to be enemies with. Fans of Felicia in her AntiHero days have not been happy. The not so subtle implication that this was all done primarily to further solidify [[CreatorsPet Silk]] as Peter's love interest didn't help.
** The revelation on the post-''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' that [[spoiler:she somehow managed to convince Silk to be part of her criminal enterprise]] and she ''absolutely loathes'' the latter trying to be the TokenGoodTeammate (and all of her appearances before that having her being a sociopathic harridan that sees [[spoiler:killing Silk's only means to find her parents]] as "a favor" and seriously wants to recruit people by convincing them that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished and Evil Pays Better (well, it ''will'' with her in charge-she's gunning to become the next Kingpin of New York)).... yeah, people are hating the new her very much.
** Creator/KevinSmith {{retcon}}ning RapeAsBackstory for Black Cat's origin was received negatively by many fans, who saw it as the unnecessary darkening of what'd been a rather light-hearted character.
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* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is Retconned Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterens and America as a whole.
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* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is Retconned retconned. Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterens Veterans and America as a whole.
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* The most recent example of this trope came after the first issue of ''Captain America: Steve Rogers'' where TheStinger is [[spoiler: that not only is Steve now a member of HYDRA, but has been so since the beginning.]] Fans have taken this as a slap in the face and have taken to Twitter and Tumblr to express their dislike and some have vowed to boycott the series or Marvel in general until this is Retconned Some fans believe it's a cheap comic gimmick to be retconned after all the hate, while others see it as a disgrace to the original works of Jack Kirby and Joe Simon and to Veterens and America as a whole.
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** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how was one thing is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.
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** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how was one thing is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.
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* The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], was met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before either decided to abandon it or tried to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers dropped even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerful telepaths.
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* Dan Slott's ''M.O.'' is making dramatic changes to ComicBook/SpiderMan, which usually goes over poorly with longtime readers.
** The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], was met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before either decided to abandon it or tried to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers dropped even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerfultelepaths.telepaths.
** The Spider-verse event went over poorly with a lot of readers due to the long-lasting effects it had on several universes, specifically characters getting killed off.
** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how was one thing is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.
** The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], was met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before either decided to abandon it or tried to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers dropped even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerful
** The Spider-verse event went over poorly with a lot of readers due to the long-lasting effects it had on several universes, specifically characters getting killed off.
** Slott's decision to make Peter the CEO of a successful company where he gets to actually use his scientific know-how was one thing is disliked by those who think Peter should be broke and desperate. Likewise, having Peter travel the world with "his bodyguard" Spider-man is a hated move amongst fans who feel that Spidey should stick to New York. The fact that Peter left New York in the hands of the new Spider-man, Miles Morales, rarely gets acknowledged by those complaining.
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* The DCNU relaunch got "They changed it now it sucks" backlash ''before release''.
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** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon Comicbook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]]. So far though, the new Justice League title has been the highest-seller of the reboot. It's not clear yet what happened to post-crisis/pre-flashpoint Huntress and Power Girl (they either got merged with the new ones or wiped from history). But the prospect of losing the characters they knew only to get back the (pre-crisis) characters only the writers remember doesn't sit too well with some current fans.
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** There was some controversy surrounding the decision to retcon Comicbook/{{Cyborg}} into being a founding member of the [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League]], with some fans angered by what they saw as mucking around with the team's history for the sake of [[TokenMinority diversity]]. So far though, the new Justice League title has been the highest-seller of the reboot. It's not clear yet what happened to post-crisis/pre-flashpoint Huntress and Power Girl (they either got merged with the new ones or wiped from history). But the prospect of losing the characters they knew only to get back the (pre-crisis) characters only the writers remember doesn't sit too well with some current fans.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and ComicBook/TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and ComicBook/TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* The main issue with Malibu's attempt at a ''StreetFighter'' [[ComicBook/MalibuComicsStreetFighter comic]]. They took so many liberties with the franchise's canon that {{Capcom}} ''literally stepped in and asked them to stop publishing it''.
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* The main issue with Malibu's attempt at a ''StreetFighter'' [[ComicBook/MalibuComicsStreetFighter comic]]. They took so many liberties with the franchise's canon (including killing Ken - who, keep in mind, is one of the main characters of the franchise - in the ''second issue'') that {{Capcom}} ''literally stepped in and asked them to stop publishing it''.
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* While Brazilian comic ''MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-Boo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
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* While Brazilian comic ''MonicasGang'' ''ComicBook/MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-Boo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
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** Averted however, with [[spoiler: Ultimate Reed Richards' FaceHeelTurn and reemergence as supervillain "The Maker". The Ultimate Comics storyline depicting this was met with praise from critics and fans alike, and The Maker is widely considered to be one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe.]].
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** Averted however, with [[spoiler: Ultimate Reed Richards' FaceHeelTurn and reemergence as supervillain "The Maker". The Ultimate Comics storyline depicting this was met with praise from critics and fans alike, and The Maker is widely considered to be one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe.]]. ]]
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** Averted however, with [[spoiler: Ultimate Reed Richards' FaceHeelTurn and reemergence as supervillain "The Maker". The storyline that was met with praise by critics and fans alike, and The Maker is widely considered to be one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe.]].
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** Averted however, with [[spoiler: Ultimate Reed Richards' FaceHeelTurn and reemergence as supervillain "The Maker". The Ultimate Comics storyline that depicting this was met with praise by from critics and fans alike, and The Maker is widely considered to be one of the best things to come out of the Ultimate Universe.]].
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* Some fans of the Ultimate Marvel line of comics are pretty clear about their opinion of the Ultimate Comics line: because it takes place after Ultimatum and as a result of it, all the stories in it are complete garbage and the people who likes it are bribed/tasteless/morons.
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* Some fans of the Ultimate Marvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel line of comics are pretty clear about their opinion of the Ultimate Comics line: because it takes place after Ultimatum and as a result of it, all the stories in it are complete garbage and the people who likes it are bribed/tasteless/morons.
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* ''OneMoreDay'': A very large proportion of the Spiderman fandom declared the storyline as its collective BerserkButton, after JoeQuesada considered dealing with Marvel's answer to Satan (who has since tacitly confirmed that he is Satan) a more realistic way to break up the much loved Spider Marriage than oh, divorce, or something like that. Due to this, the large amount of ExecutiveMeddling and the MarySue new love interest for Peter in the form of Carlie Cooper, it went down like a lead balloon.
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* ''OneMoreDay'': ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'': A very large proportion of the Spiderman fandom declared the storyline as its collective BerserkButton, after JoeQuesada considered dealing with Marvel's answer to Satan (who has since tacitly confirmed that he is Satan) a more realistic way to break up the much loved Spider Marriage than oh, divorce, or something like that. Due to this, the large amount of ExecutiveMeddling and the MarySue new love interest for Peter in the form of Carlie Cooper, it went down like a lead balloon.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, ComicBook/TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[LukeCageHeroForHire [[ComicBook/LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* This is the opinion the head writers and editors at DC (led by Dan Didio and Geoff Johns) had about the changes their predecessors made to the DCU in the 80s and 90s, in particular ''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''Emerald Twilight''. As a result, ''Infinite Crisis'', ''Green Lantern Rebirth'' and the multiple Batman/Superman crossover events have been their way of retconning those changes, leading to backlash from the current ifandom shouting that the current changes have ruined the DCU FOREVER.
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* This is the opinion the head writers and editors at DC (led by Dan Didio and Geoff Johns) had about the changes their predecessors made to the DCU in the 80s and 90s, in particular ''CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''Emerald Twilight''. As a result, ''Infinite Crisis'', ''Green Lantern Rebirth'' and the multiple Batman/Superman crossover events have been their way of retconning those changes, leading to backlash from the current ifandom shouting that the current changes have ruined the DCU FOREVER.
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* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to {{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
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* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to {{Batwoman}}.ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
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* The DCNU relaunch is already getting "They changed it now it sucks" backlash.
** As noted by coverage at the San Diego Comic Con, this is mostly due to bad advertising where the main blurbs are "see, we're going back to how it used to be" (aggravating current fans, who weren't reading when it was ''how it used to be'') and not giving out details people actually wanted that weren't very spoiler-oriented (Was Tim Drake still Robin in his past? What happens to Stephanie Brown? Did you really just say Ma and Pa Kent are ''both'' dead? Does Wally West exist at all? Why does this feel all Elseworlds-ish?? Etc.)
** Changes to Batgirl gets a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled compounded with the Asian Batgirl and the Batgirl from a lower-class background being erased was this and UnfortunateImplications.
** As noted by coverage at the San Diego Comic Con, this is mostly due to bad advertising where the main blurbs are "see, we're going back to how it used to be" (aggravating current fans, who weren't reading when it was ''how it used to be'') and not giving out details people actually wanted that weren't very spoiler-oriented (Was Tim Drake still Robin in his past? What happens to Stephanie Brown? Did you really just say Ma and Pa Kent are ''both'' dead? Does Wally West exist at all? Why does this feel all Elseworlds-ish?? Etc.)
** Changes to Batgirl gets a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled compounded with the Asian Batgirl and the Batgirl from a lower-class background being erased was this and UnfortunateImplications.
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* The DCNU relaunch is already getting got "They changed it now it sucks" backlash.
backlash ''before release''.
** As noted by coverage at the San Diego Comic Con, thisis was mostly due to bad advertising where the main blurbs are "see, we're going back to how it used to be" (aggravating current contemporary fans, who weren't reading when it was ''how it used to be'') and not giving out details people actually wanted that weren't very spoiler-oriented (Was Tim Drake still Robin in his past? What happens to Stephanie Brown? Did you really just say Ma and Pa Kent are ''both'' dead? Does Wally West exist at all? Why does this feel all Elseworlds-ish?? Etc.)
** Changes to Batgirlgets get a lot of this. Barbara Gordon being crippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled was this. Barbara Gordon being uncrippled compounded with the Asian Batgirl and the Batgirl from a lower-class background being erased was this and UnfortunateImplications.
** As noted by coverage at the San Diego Comic Con, this
** Changes to Batgirl
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* WonderWoman's new revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.
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* WonderWoman's new revamp initially to be got this reaction, the general consensus being that the coolest thing about it would be watching the fan's reactions. The first two issues were met with massive acclaim and were extremely strong sellers though. It's been said that it successfully got readers not normally interested in Wonder Woman to check it out. One change in particular that upset many fans was the fact that Diana is apparently Zeus's daughter.
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* Some fans of the Ultimate Marvel line of comics are pretty clear about their opinion of the new Ultimate Comics line : because it takes place after Ultimatum and as a result of it, all the stories in it are complete garbage and the people who likes it are bribed/tasteless/morons.
* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had Scarle Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had Scarle Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
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* Some fans of the Ultimate Marvel line of comics are pretty clear about their opinion of the new Ultimate Comics line : line: because it takes place after Ultimatum and as a result of it, all the stories in it are complete garbage and the people who likes it are bribed/tasteless/morons.
* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and hadScarle Scarlet Witch go insane. The subsequent decision to add characters like {{Spider-Man}}, {{Wolverine}}, Echo, SpiderWoman, ComicBook/JessicaJones, [[LukeCageHeroForHire Luke Cage]] and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]] to the team was also controversial amongst many old-school purists. However, Bendis' revamp of the franchise proved massively successful, at least from a financial standpoint.
* The initial reaction to Creator/BrianMichaelBendis' controversial revamp of the ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' franchise, where he killed off longtime members {{Hawkeye}}, [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man]], and TheVision, and had
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* While Brazilian comic ''MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-booo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El, and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to {{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by Mon-El, and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to {{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
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* While Brazilian comic ''MonicasGang'' is frequently accused of making unnecessary changes as any other LongRunner comic, complete with a [[SpinoffBabies Spinoff]] [[NotAllowedToGrowUp Teenagers]] manga, there was once a good in-universe example: Penadinho (in English, ''Bug-a-booo'') ''Bug-a-Boo'') stars various stock monsters. One comic had the title character, a BedsheetGhost, coming by his FrankensteinsMonster friend, Frank, who is lamenting how the creature of ''Film/MaryShelleysFrankenstein'' looked. Then Frank reminds Bug-a-Boo of ''Film/{{Ghost}}''. Later two other characters, a vampire and a werewolf, complain about ''Film/{{Wolf}}''.
* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over byMon-El, Mon-El and Nightwing and Flamebird respectively, while Damian Wayne was made into the new Robin, Dick Grayson into the new Batman, and Stephanie Brown into the new ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}. The flagship title ''DetectiveComics'' was also given to {{Batwoman}}. While Batman Reborn proved to be a massive success, New Krypton was met with almost-universal critical panning and falling sales. The New Krypton event was eventually CutShort, and Superman was brought back to his namesake series.
* ''Batman Reborn'' and ''Superman: ComicBook/NewKrypton'', two events released around the same time, garnered similar responses, at least initially. Superman was pulled out of ''Superman'' and ''ComicBook/ActionComics'', with those books being taken over by
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* The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], been met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before have either decided to abandon it or try to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers are set to drop even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerful telepaths.
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* The ending to ''Amazing SpiderMan'' #700, which has [[spoiler:Peter Parker dying in Dr. Octopus' body and [[GrandTheftMe Dr. Octopus taking over as the new Superior Spider-Man in Peter's body]] ]], been was met with this reaction after it was leaked two weeks before the issue hit the stands. Many who were interested in it before have either decided to abandon it or try tried to send death threats to Dan Slott. Numbers are set to drop dropped even further with the apparent end of the HopeSpot in ''[[Comicbook/SuperiorSpiderMan Superior Spider-Man]]'' #9, criticisms including the plot mandated IdiotBall handling of the Avengers and X-Men, and not noticing [[spoiler: a full blown psychic possession]] in a universe chock full of powerful telepaths.
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* A lot of what has been changed in ''ComicBook/MaxRideFirstFlight'' has caused uproar among the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' fandom, including the flocks' wings being mechanical. One of the major ones was Max being given red hair, when in the novels, her hatred for redheads is made VERY clear.
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* A lot of what has been was changed in ''ComicBook/MaxRideFirstFlight'' has caused uproar among the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' fandom, including the flocks' wings being mechanical. One of the major ones was Max being given red hair, when in the novels, her hatred for redheads is made VERY clear.
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* A lot of what has been changed in ''[[ComicBook/MaxRideFirstFlight Max Ride: First Flight]]'' has caused uproar among the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' fandom, including the flocks' wings being mechanical. One of the major ones was Max being given red hair, when in the novels, her hatred for redheads is made VERY clear.
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* A lot of what has been changed in ''[[ComicBook/MaxRideFirstFlight Max Ride: First Flight]]'' ''ComicBook/MaxRideFirstFlight'' has caused uproar among the ''Literature/MaximumRide'' fandom, including the flocks' wings being mechanical. One of the major ones was Max being given red hair, when in the novels, her hatred for redheads is made VERY clear.
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