History TheScrappy / VideoGames

29th Jan '18 5:40:07 PM KagSwirby
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** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades, Medusa, or Viridi (the last of which [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter is agreed to have desperately needed a chance to shine]]), and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.

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** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'', ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}}'', and even the ''[[Franchise/{{Kirby}} the franchise that Sakurai actually created]]''. people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades, Medusa, or Viridi (the last of which [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter is agreed to have desperately needed a chance to shine]]), and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.



** Also, Corrin seems to have this status too, given he's the sixth FireEmblem character in the game, which some people think there are too much already.

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** Also, Corrin seems to have this status too, given he's the sixth FireEmblem ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' character in the game, which some people think there are too much already.already, especially fans of franchises with no representatives like ''VideoGame/RhythmHeaven'' and ''VideoGame/{{Splatoon}}''.
7th Jan '18 11:35:18 PM Lizardon
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** The Thalmor in general. Players absolutely hate them so much due to their jerkass CantArgueWithElves nature and making Tamriel into the hellhole it is during ''Skyrim''. If there is a thing everyone can agree upon in Skyrim [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch including Altmer players]], it's the desire to kill every single Thalmor Justiciar and other agent they see, even if they are fighting against the group you'd normally be against.
31st Dec '17 8:59:29 AM nombretomado
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** At least you can kill most of the [=NPCs=] above. [[InfantImmortality Not so much the children]] in Little Lamplight, who are some of the most irritating and ungrateful little shits to ever be programmed into code. And that wouldn't be so bad... except Little Lamplight also happens to be a plot-relevant location, meaning that unlike other [=NPCs=], you ''have'' to interact with these obnoxious ''[[TheGoonies Goonies]]'' rejects if you want to finish the game. And now you know why child-killing mods exist.

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** At least you can kill most of the [=NPCs=] above. [[InfantImmortality Not so much the children]] in Little Lamplight, who are some of the most irritating and ungrateful little shits to ever be programmed into code. And that wouldn't be so bad... except Little Lamplight also happens to be a plot-relevant location, meaning that unlike other [=NPCs=], you ''have'' to interact with these obnoxious ''[[TheGoonies ''[[Film/TheGoonies Goonies]]'' rejects if you want to finish the game. And now you know why child-killing mods exist.
29th Dec '17 1:18:14 PM nombretomado
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* Omitsu from ''GanbareGoemon'' is loathed by the majority of the Japanese fandom. While a good amount of the hatred is for shipping reasons, rabid fans of ActionGirl Yae firmly believe she doesn't deserve to be called the series heroine. Hiroshi Obi's deliberate transformation of Omitsu into a dumpy, frumpy, status-seeking harpy in his manga adaptations of the games doesn't help matters any, either.

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* Omitsu from ''GanbareGoemon'' ''VideoGame/GanbareGoemon'' is loathed by the majority of the Japanese fandom. While a good amount of the hatred is for shipping reasons, rabid fans of ActionGirl Yae firmly believe she doesn't deserve to be called the series heroine. Hiroshi Obi's deliberate transformation of Omitsu into a dumpy, frumpy, status-seeking harpy in his manga adaptations of the games doesn't help matters any, either.
27th Dec '17 11:04:00 PM WanderingBrowser
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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'':
** While the series is full of polarising characters, none attract such utter loathing as Laura from the second game. In every one of her scenes with James she regularly insults him, goes out of her way to be unhelpful, and at one point locks him in a room filled with incredibly suggestive monsters. While entirely justified, her final scene where she rages at James at the ''worst'' possible time is the metaphorical final straw for many.
** It's never made clear in the game, but WordOfGod is that Laura doesn't see any of the things that James does. To him, he's being locked in a room full of monsters, but to her, she's just playing a prank on the fartface who [[spoiler: was mean to Mary and hardly ever came to visit her on her deathbed]].

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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'':
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''Franchise/SilentHill'': While the series is full of polarising characters, only two characters seem to be all but universally hated.
** Of all the Silent Hill
characters, none attract such utter loathing as Laura from the second game.''VideoGame/SilentHill2''. In every one of her scenes with James she regularly insults him, goes out of her way to be unhelpful, and at one point locks him in a room filled with incredibly suggestive monsters. While entirely justified, justified from her own side, her final scene where she rages at James at the ''worst'' possible time is the metaphorical final straw for many.
** It's never made clear in the game, but
many. Whilst WordOfGod is that Laura doesn't see any of the things that James does. To does, meaning that, to him, he's being locked in a room full of monsters, but to her, she's just playing a prank on the fartface who [[spoiler: was mean to Mary and hardly ever came to visit her on her deathbed]].deathbed]], this is incredibly vague in-game and so [[DeathOfTheAuthor the creator's comments are soundly ignored by much of the fandom]]. The fact that the very ''best'' of the game's {{Multiple Ending}}s features James adopting Laura does ''not'' help - if anything, it incenses her sizable {{Hatedom}}.
** Henry Townshend of ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' is soundly disliked, with many complaints leveled against his lackluster, emotionless dialogue, his "dull" backstory[[note]]which literally boils down to "he's a random schmuck who just happened to pick a cursed apartment"[[/note]], and the lack of any perceived CharacterDevelopment or [[FlatCharacter deeper investment in the mysteries surrounding him]]. He is considered perhaps the worst protagonist of ''any'' Silent Hill game so far. Whilst it's a minor element, the fact he's responsible for spouting many of the game's dumber lines certainly contributes to the dislike people have of him..
27th Dec '17 6:17:27 PM nombretomado
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* Shoutaro of ''FlowerSunAndRain'' is '''intended''' to evoke this reaction. He actually outright ''states'' he's trying for that, because [[BreakingTheFourthWall he wouldn't want to be liked by anyone who would play a game like this.]]

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* Shoutaro of ''FlowerSunAndRain'' ''VideoGame/FlowerSunAndRain'' is '''intended''' to evoke this reaction. He actually outright ''states'' he's trying for that, because [[BreakingTheFourthWall he wouldn't want to be liked by anyone who would play a game like this.]]
27th Dec '17 10:45:09 AM hyphz
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*** VideoGame/ProjectXZone 2 attempted to redeem Ingrid by transforming her into a DeadpanSnarker and FourthWallBreaker with MediaAwareness who lampoons almost everything in the game, including her own background and abilities.

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*** VideoGame/ProjectXZone 2 attempted to redeem Ingrid by transforming her into a DeadpanSnarker and FourthWallBreaker [[BreakTheFourthWall Fourth Wall Breaker]] with MediaAwareness MediumAwareness who lampoons almost everything in the game, including her own background and abilities.
27th Dec '17 10:43:31 AM hyphz
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** And there's an entire VR game, ''Duck Season'', revolving around this premise. It plays as a normal VR version of Duck Hunt, ''unless'' you shoot the dog. If you do that, [[spoiler:TheDogBitesBack]].


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*** VideoGame/ProjectXZone 2 attempted to redeem Ingrid by transforming her into a DeadpanSnarker and FourthWallBreaker with MediaAwareness who lampoons almost everything in the game, including her own background and abilities.
7th Dec '17 12:52:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Moveset-clones (Luigi, Pichu, Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Lucas, Wolf, Dark Pit, Lucina) in any ''Smash Bros.'' game often get hated under the basis that they are seen as lazy and take up a "spot" that could go to another preferred character. While the lazy part is probably true, Sakurai has gone on record stating that moveset-clones don't actually take much production time or "game space" to make and aren't the reason certain favorites aren't chosen. While many of these ultimately end up as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for various reasons, there are two in particular that stand out as widely hated:
*** Pichu in ''Melee''. Take Pikachu and make it weaker in every way except speed, including being a ShockAndAwe character that ''hurts itself'' whenever it uses any electric attacks. While there's been demand for the return of basically any playable character that's been cut from the ''Smash'' series, you'll find little demand for Pichu's return.
*** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades, Medusa, or Viridi (the last of which [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter is agreed to have desperately needed a chance to shine]]), and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.

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** Moveset-clones (Luigi, Pichu, Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Lucas, Wolf, Dark Pit, Lucina) in any ''Smash Bros.'' game often get hated under the basis that they are seen as lazy and take up a "spot" that could go to another preferred character. While the lazy part is probably true, Sakurai has gone on record stating that moveset-clones don't actually take much production time or "game space" to make and aren't the reason certain favorites aren't chosen. While many of these ultimately end up as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for various reasons, there are two in particular that stand out as widely hated:
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Pichu in ''Melee''. Take Pikachu and make it weaker in every way except speed, including being a ShockAndAwe character that ''hurts itself'' whenever it uses any electric attacks. While there's been demand for the return of basically any playable character that's been cut from the ''Smash'' series, you'll find little demand for Pichu's return.
*** ** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as {{Base Breaking Character}}s for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades, Medusa, or Viridi (the last of which [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter is agreed to have desperately needed a chance to shine]]), and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.
2nd Dec '17 2:02:21 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Moveset-clones (Luigi, Pichu, Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Lucas, Wolf, Dark Pit, Lucina) in any ''Smash Bros.'' game often get hated under the basis that they are seen as lazy and take up a "spot" that could go to another preferred character. While the lazy part is probably true, Sakurai has gone on record stating that moveset-clones don't actually take much production time or "game space" to make and aren't the reason certain favorites aren't chosen. While many of these ultimately end up as {{Base Breaker}}s for various reasons, there are two in particular that stand out as widely hated:

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** Moveset-clones (Luigi, Pichu, Falco, Roy, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Lucas, Wolf, Dark Pit, Lucina) in any ''Smash Bros.'' game often get hated under the basis that they are seen as lazy and take up a "spot" that could go to another preferred character. While the lazy part is probably true, Sakurai has gone on record stating that moveset-clones don't actually take much production time or "game space" to make and aren't the reason certain favorites aren't chosen. While many of these ultimately end up as {{Base Breaker}}s Breaking Character}}s for various reasons, there are two in particular that stand out as widely hated:
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