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17th Sep '16 10:04:33 AM TheMartianGeek1
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* The ''[[SpyroTheDragon Spyro]]'' series has Moneybags, the bear who locks you out of special abilities, levels, and in the case of the third game, one-off playable characters, until you pay him a certain number of gems. He acts like a smug jerk about it the whole time, too. Some players found the part in ''Spyro 3'' where [[spoiler:you chase him down and headbutt/flame him until he gives back all of the gems he took from you]] [[CatharsisFactor more satisfying]] than ''beating the final boss''.
9th Sep '16 5:36:42 PM Gravityman
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** Resetti, for some. If the game is turned off without saving, he pops out of the ground to yell at you for not playing the game the way he wants it to be played. If you keep it up, his rants get longer and longer, making resetting a pain. Especially in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk'', where you can't prevent him from showing up.[[note]]''New Leaf makes him optional, and the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube version allows you to prevent him from showing up by placing an item where he would appear if you reset.[[/note]] It's especially grating if the player is forced to reset due to matters beyond their control (i.e. the game crashes).
** Even worse is Gracie, the rude giraffe that will berate your sense of style simply because it doesn't match hers ([[ShesAManInJapan his in the Japanese version]]). The Gamecube "mini-game" in which you had to mash the A button in order to wash her car made it even worse, as most of the time, you would only get common clothing you could get anywhere else. Although trying to get her to set up shop in ''New Leaf'' can still verge on GuideDangIt territory, her car never shows up in any capacity. To say how bad the car washing minigame is, it's possible to fail using ''a turbo controller''.

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** Resetti, for some. If the game is turned off without saving, he pops out of the ground to yell at you for not playing the game the way he wants it to be played. If you keep it up, his rants get longer and longer, making resetting a pain. Especially in ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk'', where you can't prevent him from showing up.[[note]]''New Leaf makes him optional, and the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube version allows you to prevent him from showing up by placing an item where he would appear if you reset.[[/note]] It's especially grating if the player is forced to reset due to matters beyond their control (i.e. the game crashes).
** Even worse is
Gracie, the rude fashion designer giraffe manages to be this throughout the series for acting like a smug, self-absorbed JerkAss that will berate your sense of style and even insult the player character to their face simply because it their style doesn't match hers ([[ShesAManInJapan his in the Japanese version]]). The Gamecube "mini-game" in which you had to mash She also clashes with the A button nice, relaxing atmosphere generally carried by the cast of characters, since whereas most rude characters in order the ''Animal Crossing'' series, like the Cranky or Snooty villager type, Phyllis, or Resetti, are a JerkWithAHeartOfGold on some level, Gracie never stops being rude and condescending to wash her car made it the player, not even worse, as most of the time, you would only get common clothing you could get anywhere else. Although trying to get when they help her to set up a permanent shop in ''New Leaf'' can still verge on GuideDangIt territory, her car never shows up and are looking to buy things from her. She's actually even worse in any capacity. To say how bad the car washing Gamecube version, where she will only give you anything if you play a horribly unfair ButtonMashing minigame is, it's to wash her car first that was almost impossible to do without a Turbo Controller (and was actually possible to fail using ''a turbo controller''.even ''with'' one).
1st Sep '16 5:54:30 PM Sammettik
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* VideoGame/NintendoLand has Monita. Her tutorial speeches are several minutes long, and ''boring''. They've been known to put some gamers to sleep.

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* VideoGame/NintendoLand ''VideoGame/NintendoLand'' has Monita. Her tutorial speeches are several minutes long, and ''boring''. They've been known to put some gamers to sleep.



** Guest characters tend to be {{Base Breaking Character}}s [[TierInducedScrappy among the fans]]. Offenders include [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]] and [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] and ComicBook/{{Spawn}} in ''Soul Calibur II'' ([=PS2=], [=GameCube=], and Xbox respectively) - Heihachi due his lack of weapon making him impossible to see in an Invisible match, as well as being the only fighter in a weapons based fighting game to not actually use a weapon. Link due to super-spammable attacks that make him a pain to fight against as a CPU while being at the bottom of the tier list making it unlikely for tournament players to want to play as him. Spawn for feeling [[AnachronismStew out of place]] in the setting and due to his axes having nothing to do with his character from the comics. [[StarWars Yoda and Starkiller]] in Soul Calibur IV due to the former's immunity to grabs/high attacks and the latter's brokenness in Arcade Mode yet relative uselessness as a player character. Darth Vader for being [[AnachronismStew Darth]] [[SpaceOpera Vader]] in a medieval setting. Yet all of these characters also have their fans.
28th Aug '16 10:19:15 PM Scabbard
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** Trish. She treats Cole like absolute dog shit for the majority of her screen time. Yes [[spoiler: A radioactive sphere he was holding exploded, giving Cole superpowers at the cost of thousands of lives, one of which was Trish's sister Amy]] but Cole didn't deserve it because it was an accident. Few players liked her and some were glad to [[spoiler: see her die.]]

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** Trish. She treats Cole like absolute dog shit for the majority of her screen time. Yes Yes, [[spoiler: A a radioactive sphere he was holding exploded, giving Cole superpowers at the cost of thousands of lives, one of which was Trish's sister Amy]] but Cole didn't deserve it because it was an accident. Few players liked her and some were glad to [[spoiler: see her die.]]
25th Aug '16 9:57:25 PM batmany
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* ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'':
** Good luck finding anyone who likes the Plesioth. For one thing, it spends half of the battle in water forcing you to lure it out. The other half? It either immediately rushes back into said water or uses one of its numerous annoying moves. Of special note is the infamous [[ThatOneMove "hipcheck"]] which the name alone is enough to cause players to foam at the mouth in rage.
** Small monsters such as the Bullfango, Jaggi, and the like certainly fall under this. Mostly because they love to attack at the most inappropriate of times. This includes when you're gathering items or trying to fight a much larger and more dangerous monster.
** The Chameleos is generally disliked by fans of the games due to its habit of being invisible at least half the time. Oh, and it also likes to steal items.
** Like the Chameleos, the Gypceros also has the lovely habit of stealing items. It also loves to temporarily blind players by flashing them with its crest. And, if that wasn't annoying enough, it also has a habit of pretending to be dead only to get up and surprise attack the opponent. It's little wonder it ends up on many players' "worst monsters" list.
** The Congalala also is hated by fans for several reasons. Its design is laughable at best. Not helping matters is how it fights...primarily by farting and throwing its own poop. And, to top it all off, it's not even that challenging of a monster. Fans of the series generally find it to be little more than a poorly-conceived JokeCharacter.
16th Aug '16 10:50:58 AM CerotechOmega
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** [[TheAtoner Trinity]] is exempt from this category due to having a well-defined character and personality, in addition to the strong ties to the story being one of the Six Heroes provides. [[TokenMiniMoe Platinum's]] [[SharingABody other personalities]], on the other hand, are not so lucky. [[BrattyHalfPint Luna]] is extremely loud-mouthed and obnoxious, making a habit of insulting and generally being a [[JerkAss rude bitch]] to pretty much everyone around her. Sena, on the other hand, is typically seen as [[ShrinkingViolet a wet noodle]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass too spineless to keep Luna in check]]. Further, their relatively limited screentime - and consequently, development - make it hard to support Sena and leaves Luna almost entirely devoid of any redeeming character traits. During ''Continuum Shift'' and most of ''Chronophantasma'' arcade, 95% of the time it's Luna and Sena at the fore, with Western fans perplexed at how the Japanese can stomach the brat. While the story mode for ''Chronophantasma'' puts Trinity at the fore, [[spoiler:by the end of it Hazama shanks her just before he dies, and it's anyone's guess who's going to represent this character for the next game]].
** Mai Natsume, who originates in the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'', is disliked by a segment of the fanbase due to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which has been said by some to be little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]], as well as being accused of having a design based on [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]].

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** [[TheAtoner Trinity]] is exempt from this category due to having a well-defined character and personality, in addition to the strong ties to the story being one of the Six Heroes provides. [[TokenMiniMoe Platinum's]] [[SharingABody other personalities]], on the other hand, are not so lucky. [[BrattyHalfPint Luna]] is extremely loud-mouthed and obnoxious, making a habit of insulting and generally being a [[JerkAss rude bitch]] to pretty much everyone around her. Sena, on the other hand, is typically seen as [[ShrinkingViolet a wet noodle]], [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass too spineless to keep Luna in check]]. Further, their relatively limited screentime - and consequently, development - make it hard to support Sena and leaves Luna almost entirely devoid of any redeeming character traits. During ''Continuum Shift'' and most of ''Chronophantasma'' arcade, 95% of the time it's Luna and Sena at the fore, with Western fans perplexed at how the Japanese can stomach the brat. While the story mode for ''Chronophantasma'' puts Trinity at the fore, [[spoiler:by the end of it Hazama shanks her just before he dies, leaving Luna and it's anyone's guess who's going Sena in the body while Trinity unwittingly migrates to represent this character Jin; how the future bodes for the next game]].
them is yet to be seen]].
** Mai Natsume, who originates in the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'', is disliked by a segment of the fanbase due to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which has been said by some to be little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]], as well as being accused of having a design based on [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]]. There's also the choice of [[{{Stripperiffic}} outfit]] and [[BladeOnAStick weapon]] shown in ''Variable Heart''[[note]]another manga which serves as the sequel to ''Remix Heart''[[/note]], which only flared in intensity when she was confirmed as playable in ''Central Fiction''.
9th Aug '16 11:08:12 PM Anddrix
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** Back in the day when the game was first released, Bottles the Mole got a lot of attention as TheScrappy of choice. Many gamers were boggled by the first scene of the game (not counting the intro) being him popping out of his hole and speaking in his bizarre voice. In the sequel, ''Banjo-Tooie'', Rare must have been aware of this, because [[AlasPoorScrappy Bottles is killed off right at the beginning]] and replaced by his Brother, Jamjars, as Banjo's mentor, though Jamjars himself ended up being a BaseBreaker at best for those who were fans of Bottles.

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** Back in the day when the game was first released, Bottles the Mole got a lot of attention as TheScrappy of choice. Many gamers were boggled by the first scene of the game (not counting the intro) being him popping out of his hole and speaking in his bizarre voice. In the sequel, ''Banjo-Tooie'', Rare must have been aware of this, because [[AlasPoorScrappy Bottles is killed off right at the beginning]] and replaced by his Brother, Jamjars, as Banjo's mentor, though Jamjars himself ended up being a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter at best for those who were fans of Bottles.



** Chris Redfield is viewed as bland and uninteresting compared to the prettier and snarky Leon, though his storyline in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'' is changing some fans' minds about him (which works both ways - some who previously didn't mind him felt alienated by his abrupt and nonsensical[[note]]He was fine in Resident Evil 5 after Jill's supposed death, but quit the BSAA and became an alcoholic after a random squad of {{Red Shirt}}s was killed?[[/note]] character shift). He's an odd case of this trope and seems to invoke [[BaseBreaker a love-or-hate-him reaction]].

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** Chris Redfield is viewed as bland and uninteresting compared to the prettier and snarky Leon, though his storyline in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'' is changing some fans' minds about him (which works both ways - some who previously didn't mind him felt alienated by his abrupt and nonsensical[[note]]He was fine in Resident Evil 5 after Jill's supposed death, but quit the BSAA and became an alcoholic after a random squad of {{Red Shirt}}s was killed?[[/note]] character shift). He's an odd case of this trope and seems to invoke [[BaseBreaker a love-or-hate-him reaction]].reaction.



** Guest characters tend to be [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] [[TierInducedScrappy among the fans]]. Offenders include [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]] and [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] and ComicBook/{{Spawn}} in ''Soul Calibur II'' ([=PS2=], [=GameCube=], and Xbox respectively) - Heihachi due his lack of weapon making him impossible to see in an Invisible match, as well as being the only fighter in a weapons based fighting game to not actually use a weapon. Link due to super-spammable attacks that make him a pain to fight against as a CPU while being at the bottom of the tier list making it unlikely for tournament players to want to play as him. Spawn for feeling [[AnachronismStew out of place]] in the setting and due to his axes having nothing to do with his character from the comics. [[StarWars Yoda and Starkiller]] in Soul Calibur IV due to the former's immunity to grabs/high attacks and the latter's brokenness in Arcade Mode yet relative uselessness as a player character. Darth Vader for being [[AnachronismStew Darth]] [[SpaceOpera Vader]] in a medieval setting. Yet all of these characters also have their fans.

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** Guest characters tend to be [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] {{Base Breaking Character}}s [[TierInducedScrappy among the fans]]. Offenders include [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]] and [[Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda Link]] and ComicBook/{{Spawn}} in ''Soul Calibur II'' ([=PS2=], [=GameCube=], and Xbox respectively) - Heihachi due his lack of weapon making him impossible to see in an Invisible match, as well as being the only fighter in a weapons based fighting game to not actually use a weapon. Link due to super-spammable attacks that make him a pain to fight against as a CPU while being at the bottom of the tier list making it unlikely for tournament players to want to play as him. Spawn for feeling [[AnachronismStew out of place]] in the setting and due to his axes having nothing to do with his character from the comics. [[StarWars Yoda and Starkiller]] in Soul Calibur IV due to the former's immunity to grabs/high attacks and the latter's brokenness in Arcade Mode yet relative uselessness as a player character. Darth Vader for being [[AnachronismStew Darth]] [[SpaceOpera Vader]] in a medieval setting. Yet all of these characters also have their fans.



** ZWEI has become quite the [[BaseBreaker basebreaker]] in the community and is probably the most controversial of the newcomers. Some fans like him, however common criticisms include his character design (which doesn't fit into the 16th Century setting and looks more at home in a [[TheApunkalypse street-punk]]), Namco spending so much time in interviews playing him up only for him to have almost no [[DemotedToExtra screentime or character development in the actual game]] see Patrokolos example above. Lastly, the mere fact that he is a new character that gets so much marketing at the expense of older fan favorites most of whom didn't return for this game is bound to make him controversial.

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** ZWEI has become quite the [[BaseBreaker basebreaker]] BaseBreakingCharacter in the community and is probably the most controversial of the newcomers. Some fans like him, however common criticisms include his character design (which doesn't fit into the 16th Century setting and looks more at home in a [[TheApunkalypse street-punk]]), Namco spending so much time in interviews playing him up only for him to have almost no [[DemotedToExtra screentime or character development in the actual game]] see Patrokolos example above. Lastly, the mere fact that he is a new character that gets so much marketing at the expense of older fan favorites most of whom didn't return for this game is bound to make him controversial.



*** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades or Medusa, and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.
** Diddy Kong managed to become this in some circles in ''[=Wii U/3DS=]'' prior to the 1.0.6 patch. Widely considered a broken character in the fourth game due to his overpowered and annoying "[[MemeticMutation hoo-hah]]" combo (down throw to up air) and the fact that he was one of the least technical and most boring characters in competitive play, he has also been subject to criticism for his monkey noises and goofy appearance not helping matters. You'd better believe [[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nsee/hoo_hah_has_been_nerfed/ people were happy]] when he got nerfed. While more of a BaseBreaker in his debut in ''Brawl'' (Considering Meta Knight and the Ice Climbers were more broken and his high tier status came late in the scene), he still took plenty of flack for his juvenile appearance complimenting a ridiculously effective moveset. While balance patches have removed his overwhelming advantages, his previous stigma persists with some players. As one Reddit commenter put it:

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*** Dark Pit in ''U/[=3DS=]''. He's not a Scrappy in his [[VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising home game]] (in fact, he's quite popular there), but the general consensus is that he was about the worst possible choice for a Smash Bros representative. He is a MovesetClone of Pit, and a borderline PaletteSwap, with the only major difference being his different FinalSmash (which is mechanically identical to Zelda's). Furthermore, his distinct personality in ''Uprising'' isn't something you can really convey in a game with no plot, leading to him being called a "[[CopyCatSue Deviantart OC]]," with more than a few "[[MemeticMutation Coldsteel the Hedgeheg]]" jokes. While Dark Pit wasn't the only clone character in ''Smash 4'' and both Lucina and Dr. Mario generally slide by more as [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] {{Base Breaking Character}}s for their own reasons, Dark Pit also has the unfortunate distinction of being a symptom of ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising'''s over-representation in these games on top of being a clone. People who perceived ''Uprising'' as Sakurai's pet franchise hated him, because he meant that ''Uprising'' was officially more represented than proven classics like ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' or especially ''VideoGame/{{Metroid}},'' people who liked ''Uprising'' admitted they'd rather have had a more interesting or diverse character like Hades or Medusa, and the overall perception was that he was a very lazy addition at best and the reason [insert Wolf, Ice Climbers, Ridley, Geno, Waluigi, Lip here] didn't make it into the game at worst.
** Diddy Kong managed to become this in some circles in ''[=Wii U/3DS=]'' prior to the 1.0.6 patch. Widely considered a broken character in the fourth game due to his overpowered and annoying "[[MemeticMutation hoo-hah]]" combo (down throw to up air) and the fact that he was one of the least technical and most boring characters in competitive play, he has also been subject to criticism for his monkey noises and goofy appearance not helping matters. You'd better believe [[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/32nsee/hoo_hah_has_been_nerfed/ people were happy]] when he got nerfed. While more of a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter in his debut in ''Brawl'' (Considering Meta Knight and the Ice Climbers were more broken and his high tier status came late in the scene), he still took plenty of flack for his juvenile appearance complimenting a ridiculously effective moveset. While balance patches have removed his overwhelming advantages, his previous stigma persists with some players. As one Reddit commenter put it:
7th Aug '16 5:44:01 AM BSonirachi
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** Canary Mary. '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''' She and [[ThatOneLevel her levels]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.

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** Canary Mary. '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''' She and [[ThatOneLevel [[ThatOneSidequest her levels]] races]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.
7th Aug '16 2:03:27 AM TheGrandestDad
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** Canary Mary. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''' ]] She and [[ThatOneLevel her levels]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.

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** Canary Mary. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''' ]] She and [[ThatOneLevel her levels]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.
7th Aug '16 2:03:06 AM TheGrandestDad
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** Canary Mary. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''']] She and [[ThatOneLevel her levels]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.

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** Canary Mary. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis '''Canary. ''FUCKING.'' Mary.''']] ''' ]] She and [[ThatOneLevel her levels]] are utterly reviled by gamers to this day for the rage she induced. L.O.G., another scrappy, even ''taunts you about her'' during the loading screens.
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