History TheScrappy / VideoGames

25th May '16 12:42:59 PM Eryops
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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase.

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** [[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction Naoto Kurogane]] got the cold shoulder [[TaintedByThePreview before the game even came out]]. If the [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} near-blatant name lift]] wasn't reason enough to hate him, he's the main protagonist of ''another'' [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] novel spinoff, ''Bloodedge Experience'', and his "generic protagonist" personality vibes do little to endear him to fans, nor does his many striking similarities to Ragna the Bloodedge (the core story's main protagonist). Further, he has near zero foreshadowing in the games (which is saying something, as even the aforementioned Celica A. Mercury was posthumously developed before ''Chronophantasma'') and his first line in the trailer revolves around destroying a Murakumo, though it's not clear which (each of the three has their own fanbase, and two of them are protagonistic). Already the Western fanbase dreads the level of focus he's going to get in the inevitable console release, which could push him dangerously close to CreatorsPet territory. But what arguably makes him a special little snowflake, however, is that apocryphal stories suggest that ''Bloodedge Experience'' is selling poorly compared to the other novels and that Mori tried to push copies out during EVO; the truth to these stories may be questionable, but if they're even half-true, then it could be a clear warning that ''[[UpToEleven even the Japanese think this is getting old]]''. Strangely enough, this is played with in-universe, with [[spoiler:some of the cast becoming unduly antagonistic towards Naoto's existence because it threatens Ragna's]].

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** [[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction Naoto Kurogane]] got the cold shoulder among some fans [[TaintedByThePreview before the game even came out]]. If the He has been said to have had a [[VideoGame/{{Persona4}} near-blatant name lift]] wasn't reason enough to hate him, he's lift]], is the main protagonist of ''another'' [[NoExportForYou Japan-exclusive]] novel spinoff, ''Bloodedge Experience'', and his there have been claims that he has a "generic protagonist" personality vibes do little to endear him to fans, nor does his vibes, and he has many striking similarities to Ragna the Bloodedge (the core story's main protagonist). Further, he has near zero foreshadowing in the games (which is saying something, as even the aforementioned Celica A. Mercury was posthumously developed before ''Chronophantasma'') and his first line in the trailer revolves around destroying a Murakumo, though it's not clear which (each of the three has their own fanbase, and two of them are protagonistic). Already the Western fanbase dreads the fears he might have a high level of focus he's going to get in the inevitable console release, which could push him dangerously close to CreatorsPet territory. But what arguably makes him a special little snowflake, however, is that apocryphal stories suggest that ''Bloodedge Experience'' is selling poorly compared to the other novels and that Mori tried to push copies out during EVO; the truth to these stories may be questionable, but if they're even half-true, then it could be a clear warning that ''[[UpToEleven even the Japanese think this is getting old]]''. Strangely enough, this is played with in-universe, with [[spoiler:some of the cast becoming unduly antagonistic towards Naoto's existence because it threatens Ragna's]].
11th May '16 3:49:30 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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9th May '16 6:46:37 PM ChrisX
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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase. And then she got into the ''Central Fiction'' roster with said ultra-tart outfit, amplifying said outcry.

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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase. And then she got into the ''Central Fiction'' roster with said ultra-tart outfit, amplifying said outcry.
9th May '16 6:28:48 PM ChrisX
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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase.

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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase. And then she got into the ''Central Fiction'' roster with said ultra-tart outfit, amplifying said outcry.
9th May '16 10:49:16 AM CerotechOmega
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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough.

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** While she hasn't appeared in any of the games herself, Mai Natsume from the manga spinoff ''VideoGame/BlazBlue Heart Remix'' is one of the few characters in the series that most of the fanbase genuinely wants to see less of. In addition to being the protagonist of said spinoff[[labelnote:*]]which is widely criticized for being little more than {{Ecchi}} fluff [[RecycledInSPACE with a handful of the main characters from the NOL]][[/labelnote]] (which consequently makes her an easy target for the many detractors of the work), her rather obvious design lift from [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Dizzy]] and unhealthy reliance on CommonMarySueTraits do little in the way of earning her fans. She's then confirmed to appear in ''Chronophantasma Extend'', but only time will tell if she gets rounded up and pulls herself away from the heap, like if the {{ecchi}} fluff was excised from the ''Remix Heart'' retelling. Results so far seemed fair, since the {{ecchi}} fluff was toned down, but probably not enough. And then the ''Variable Heart'' manga was announced, and the ultra-tart outfit with it, which induced significant outcry from the fanbase.
6th May '16 3:21:38 PM supergod
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* Deekin Scalesinger from ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights: Shadows of Undrentide'' is a Scrappy to some fans. He shows up in ''Hordes of the Underdark'', where he's the only character who can accompany the character for the entire game, and even has a cameo appearance in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2'' as a shopkeeper, despite the fact that, thanks to his epic-level adventures in ''Hordes'', he's now powerful enough to level most of the city.
** This was even referenced in ''Hordes of the Underdark'' where the innkeeper Durnan thinks Deekin is annoying and will be surprised if you say that you like him.
** Deekin's big problems in ''Shadows'' were that his only real personality trait was his cowardice and the fact he had mediocre stats for the two classes he could choose from (Bard/Rogue), making him equally inept at both apart from his song buff. Dorna was a better rogue while Xanos was a better spellcaster, and both had better personalities. ''Hordes'' was his [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescuing]] in a number of ways. His personality was refined to focus less on his cowardice and more on his drive to be a great bard who wrote and told epic stories, while gameplay wise the Red Dragon Disciple prestige class gave a huge boost to his power and survivability, making him less like {{The Load}} and more of an endearing {{Spoony Bard}} that belched fireballs.



** While not on the same level as those two, Elanee tends to get some flak due to her romance with a male PC having some arguably [[StalkerWithACrush disturbing]] [[JailBaitWait undertones]], as well as, in some people's minds, just not being as interesting as [[FanPreferredCouple Neeshka]].
** In the same vein as Elanee, Casavir gets some mud slung his way for being another boring, stereotypical paladin, for the way his "romance" with a female PC comes pretty much out of nowhere, and for having his RomanceSidequest left in while [[FanPreferredCouple Bishop's]] had to be cut.
4th May '16 10:50:31 PM Kid
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For characters that have a decent personality but are hated for being too weak or too strong in the game, see TierInducedScrappy. For hated enemies see GoddamnedBats or DemonicSpiders. For hated bosses see ThatOneBoss or GoddamnedBoss. For hated aspects of gameplay, see ScrappyMechanic


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For characters that have a decent personality but are hated for being too weak or too strong in the game, see TierInducedScrappy. For hated enemies see GoddamnedBats or DemonicSpiders. For hated bosses see ThatOneBoss or GoddamnedBoss. For hated aspects of gameplay, see ScrappyMechanic

ScrappyMechanic.

27th Apr '16 8:35:34 AM 20person
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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' gives us Marcy Long, a foul-tempered JerkAss who often goes out of her way to bitch at the player [[WelcometoCorneria with the same four lines of dialogue over and over again]]. Her husband Jun claims it's her way of mourning their son's death, but a terminal in Quincy implies otherwise. What players especially find irritating is that when they finally snap and unload a shotgun into her face, both she and her husband are marked as essential despite contributing absolutely nothing to the story (unlike Sturges and Mama Murphy, who are also essential for the most part but actually have some use).
** Preston Garvey also gets some hate for the constant stream of [[FetchQuest Fetch Quests]] involving helping out settlements (frequently located on the other side of the map). To make it worse, he gives out a new quest as soon as soon as you turn an old one in. In addition, his lines are somewhat [[{{Narm}} Narmy]] after you romance him.
*** Mitigated in a patch. Now most of the fetch quests that Garvey gave out are now given out by listening to Radio Freedom, and Garvey himself gives out quests far less frequently
** Once the ''Wasteland Workshop'' DLC came out (allowing, among other things, the ability to create arenas where settlers can fight wasteland creatures or each other), many players have assigned Marcy to an arena to fight [[LightningBruiser Deathclaws]] unarmed, and [[TakeThatScrappy watching her die over and over again]] due to her essential status.

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* ** ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' gives us Marcy Long, a foul-tempered JerkAss who often goes out of her way to bitch at the player [[WelcometoCorneria with the same four lines of dialogue over and over again]]. Her husband Jun claims it's her way of mourning their son's death, but a terminal in Quincy implies otherwise. What players especially find irritating is that when they finally snap and unload a shotgun into her face, both she and her husband are marked as essential despite contributing absolutely nothing to the story (unlike Sturges and Mama Murphy, who are also essential for the most part but actually have some use).
** *** Preston Garvey also gets some hate for the constant stream of [[FetchQuest Fetch Quests]] involving helping out settlements (frequently located on the other side of the map). To make it worse, he gives out a new quest as soon as soon as you turn an old one in. In addition, his lines are somewhat [[{{Narm}} Narmy]] after you romance him.
*** **** Mitigated in a patch. Now most of the fetch quests that Garvey gave out are now given out by listening to Radio Freedom, and Garvey himself gives out quests far less frequently
** *** Once the ''Wasteland Workshop'' DLC came out (allowing, among other things, the ability to create arenas where settlers can fight wasteland creatures or each other), many players have assigned Marcy to an arena to fight [[LightningBruiser Deathclaws]] unarmed, and [[TakeThatScrappy watching her die over and over again]] due to her essential status.
27th Apr '16 8:34:58 AM 20person
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** Fallout 4 gives us Marcy Long, a foul-tempered JerkAss who often goes out of her way to bitch at the player [[WelcometoCorneria with the same four lines of dialogue over and over again]]. Her husband Jun claims it's her way of mourning their son's death, but a terminal in Quincy implies otherwise. What players especially find irritating is that when they finally snap and unload a shotgun into her face, both she and her husband are marked as essential despite contributing absolutely nothing to the story (unlike Sturges and Mama Murphy, who are also essential for the most part but actually have some use).

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** Fallout 4 * ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' gives us Marcy Long, a foul-tempered JerkAss who often goes out of her way to bitch at the player [[WelcometoCorneria with the same four lines of dialogue over and over again]]. Her husband Jun claims it's her way of mourning their son's death, but a terminal in Quincy implies otherwise. What players especially find irritating is that when they finally snap and unload a shotgun into her face, both she and her husband are marked as essential despite contributing absolutely nothing to the story (unlike Sturges and Mama Murphy, who are also essential for the most part but actually have some use).use).
** Preston Garvey also gets some hate for the constant stream of [[FetchQuest Fetch Quests]] involving helping out settlements (frequently located on the other side of the map). To make it worse, he gives out a new quest as soon as soon as you turn an old one in. In addition, his lines are somewhat [[{{Narm}} Narmy]] after you romance him.
*** Mitigated in a patch. Now most of the fetch quests that Garvey gave out are now given out by listening to Radio Freedom, and Garvey himself gives out quests far less frequently
** Once the ''Wasteland Workshop'' DLC came out (allowing, among other things, the ability to create arenas where settlers can fight wasteland creatures or each other), many players have assigned Marcy to an arena to fight [[LightningBruiser Deathclaws]] unarmed, and [[TakeThatScrappy watching her die over and over again]] due to her essential status.
19th Apr '16 11:54:54 PM Gravityman
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** Carl "CJ" Johnson:
*** According to some fans. These fans tend to criticise the fact that CJ is whiny at times and isn't as {{badass}} as his predecessors, Claude (''GTA III'') and Tommy Vercetti (''Vice City''). Most fans like him though.
*** The major problem fingered with CJ is cut-scene/gameplay dissonance. Claude is, at best, amoral and Tommy is a complete psycho, whereas CJ is depicted as having fundamentally good motivations and just 'doin it fo da hood.' Which somehow doesn't gel with the fact you just ran over a few old women and beat police officers to death with a dildo.
*** A bigger problem with CJ is that even if the player doesn't go on random massacres in the sandbox, many of the missions have CJ deciding to kill a bunch of innocent people for no good reason. SequenceBreaking aside, there is no way for CJ to be even close to the person he considers himself to be. That what makes him annoying to a lot of people (intentional though it may be).

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** Carl "CJ" Johnson:
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Johnson, according to some fans. These Some fans tend to criticise think he doesn't have quite the fact that CJ is whiny at times and isn't right temperament or motives to work as {{badass}} as his predecessors, a ''Grand Theft Auto'' protagonist, since the ones before him like Claude (''GTA III'') and Tommy Vercetti (''Vice City''). Most fans like him though.
*** The major problem fingered with CJ is cut-scene/gameplay dissonance. Claude is, at best,
City'') were portrayed as much more amoral and Tommy is a complete psycho, psychotic than he is, whereas CJ is depicted as having fundamentally good motivations and just 'doin it fo da hood.' Which somehow doesn't gel with hood,' making the fact you just ran over a few old women and beat police officers VideoGameCrueltyPotential the player is all but encouraged to death with a dildo.
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dish out seem out of character for him. A bigger problem with CJ is that even if the player doesn't go on random massacres in the sandbox, many of the missions have CJ deciding to kill a bunch of innocent people for no good reason. SequenceBreaking aside, there is no way for CJ to be even close to the person he considers himself to be. That what makes him annoying to a lot of people (intentional though it may be).
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