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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Sodia tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Sodia tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part Part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose was widely hated in Japan due to her part in the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's not as divisive in the west by comparison, but due to how well documented the whole issue is, she remains at ''best'' a BaseBreakingCharacter.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose was widely hated in Japan due to her part in the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's not as divisive in the west West by comparison, but due to how well documented the whole issue is, she remains at ''best'' a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose is generally viewed in Japan as being a Scrappy in part due to the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's rather poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's not as divisive in the west by comparison, but due to how well documented the whole issue is, she remains at ''best'' a BaseBreakingCharacter.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose is generally viewed was widely hated in Japan as being a Scrappy in part due to her part in the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's rather poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's not as divisive in the west by comparison, but due to how well documented the whole issue is, she remains at ''best'' a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'': Rideaux is an in-universe Scrappy, but the game still goes out of its way to make you hate him with the same passion the game characters do. The least of which includes saddling Ludger with a 15 million Gald bill for treating his and Elle's injuries, and takes Elle hostage which forces Ludger to take out a loan to pay him. It's all his fault you have to deal with the above mentioned debt system.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia2'': Rideaux is an in-universe Scrappy, but the game still goes out of its way to make you hate him with the same passion the game characters do. The least of which includes saddling Ludger with a 15 million Gald bill for treating his and Elle's injuries, and takes Elle hostage which forces Ludger to take out a loan to pay him. It's all his fault you have to deal with [[ScrappyMechanic the above mentioned debt system.system]].
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* Videogame/TalesOfInnocence: Coda. It's not that he does something to be hated - it's that he doesn't do anything at all for the whole game. He has no backstory and no plot purpose. He's just there for the sake of being the game's mascot and tutorial. And rag on about food. The game actually acknowledges this numerous times, so this is most likely intentional.

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* Videogame/TalesOfInnocence: ''VideoGame/TalesOfInnocence'': Coda. It's not that he does something to be hated - it's that he doesn't do anything at all for the whole game. He has no backstory and no plot purpose. He's just there for the sake of being the game's mascot and tutorial. And rag on about food. The game actually acknowledges this numerous times, so this is most likely intentional.
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Now Flame Bait and Darth.


* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': Chocolat, who is a DamselInDistress the party must save ''twice''. She's kidnapped by Magnius and his Desian goons and taken to the Human Ranch near Palmacosta. When Lloyd and company show up to save her, Magnius reveals Lloyd killed Chocolat's grandmother Marble back in Iselia. Chocolat freaks out, ''refuses'' to accept that Lloyd tried to ''save'' Marble, only killing her because [[MercyKill she asked him to]], and [[WhatAnIdiot Chocolat willingly allows the Desians to take her away rather than be rescued by Lloyd]]. Much later in the game, the group must infiltrate the Iselia Human Ranch, and Chocolat still refuses to thank Lloyd and only allows the group to save her begrudgingly. The game does attempt to redeem her by having her call out the HateSink Mayor of Iselia, but in the eyes of many players, it's too little, too late.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': Chocolat, who is a DamselInDistress the party must save ''twice''. She's kidnapped by Magnius and his Desian goons and taken to the Human Ranch near Palmacosta. When Lloyd and company show up to save her, Magnius reveals Lloyd killed Chocolat's grandmother Marble back in Iselia. Chocolat freaks out, ''refuses'' to accept that Lloyd tried to ''save'' Marble, only killing her because [[MercyKill she asked him to]], and [[WhatAnIdiot Chocolat willingly allows the Desians to take her away rather than be rescued by Lloyd]].Lloyd. Much later in the game, the group must infiltrate the Iselia Human Ranch, and Chocolat still refuses to thank Lloyd and only allows the group to save her begrudgingly. The game does attempt to redeem her by having her call out the HateSink Mayor of Iselia, but in the eyes of many players, it's too little, too late.
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Pretty sure the original Ion is meant to be hated.


** Anise gets scrappy points for [[spoiler:her involvment in Ion's [[HeroicSacrifice death]] and being forced to be [[TheMole a mole]] by [[CorruptChurch Mohs]].]] Also, she gets additional scrappy points for being too EasilyForgiven for her transgressions compared to what Luke goes through after his screwup.
** Arietta for whining at the party for killing her Liger-mama, refusing to hear any sort of explanation and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for having a screechy, high voice]]. [[spoiler: The original Ion is also disliked for partly creating a lot of Arietta's issues, not to mention for having a {{Jerkass}} attitude in general, a stark contrast to his replica.]]

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** Anise gets scrappy points for [[spoiler:her involvment in Ion's [[HeroicSacrifice death]] and being forced to be [[TheMole a mole]] by [[CorruptChurch Mohs]].]] Also, she gets additional scrappy points for being too EasilyForgiven for her transgressions compared to what Luke goes through after his screwup.
screwup, and for being the most one-note member of the party with what little CharacterDevelopment she gets coming very late.
** Arietta for whining at the party for killing her Liger-mama, refusing to hear any sort of explanation and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking for having a screechy, high voice]]. [[spoiler: The original Ion is also disliked for partly creating a lot of Arietta's issues, not to mention for having a {{Jerkass}} attitude in general, a stark contrast to his replica.]]

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Zagi being The Scrappy doesn't sit right with me, because I'm fairly sure he has a good amount of fans who like that aspect about him


* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'':
** Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.
** [[DiabolusExNihilo Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]]) He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.

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''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.
** [[DiabolusExNihilo Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]]) He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.
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This entry seems targeted at the voice, now the character.


* ''VideoGame/TalesOfHearts'': The Mechanoid Corundum, a loli with an excessively high, shrill voice and an annoying giggle... also, [[spoiler:the only enemy Guardian Knight you don't get to own in a boss fight. In fact, she's a cameo summon in the original DS version.]] Thanks a lot, Creator/TomokoKaneda.
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** [[DiabolusExMachina Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]]) He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.

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** [[DiabolusExMachina [[DiabolusExNihilo Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]]) He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.
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** [[DiabolusExMachina Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]] He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.

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** [[DiabolusExMachina Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]] ]]) He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.

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I've noticed from others than Zagi from Vesperia isn't very well liked by players


* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.

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Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.side.
** [[DiabolusExMachina Zagi]] is also this. He only shows up just to fight the player and has no real bearing on the plot whatsoever (outside of nearly destroying [[spoiler: Zaphias.]] He has no particular allegiance to any other antagonist past the first act, he just shows up out of nowhere to cause trouble. Many also consider his creepy obsession with Yuri to be very annoying. It doesn't help that he's fought a total of ''five time'' throughout the game.

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I don't see enough to qualify Karol


* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'':
** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. The story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.
** Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'':
** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. The story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.
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''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'': Sodia also tends to get a lot of hate, mostly due to [[spoiler:stabbing Yuri at the end of part 2. To be fair, she ''instantly'' regrets it.]] In her case, it doesn't help that many view her as a [[ClingyJealousGirl Clingy Jealous Fangirl]] or that she's EasilyForgiven, the latter being false because [[spoiler: Yuri]] makes it perfectly clear that she is not forgiven and that Flynn not knowing is only because he needs someone he can trust by his side.



* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose is generally viewed in Japan as being a Scrappy in part due to the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's rather poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's less divisive in the west, but there are still some who feel this way.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria'': Rose is generally viewed in Japan as being a Scrappy in part due to the whole Alisha controversy, but also due to the game's rather poor writing for her character, such as her being [[spoiler: part of a group of "pure-hearted" assassins who only targets people who have bad intentions in their eyes]], which is flimsily justified in game. Other reasons include her ability to Armatize with the Seraphs on the grounds that [[spoiler:Dezel possessing her somehow allows her to do so]], and how much of her character seems rushed including backstory and personality. The Alisha DLC made this worse for those who dislike her for TookALevelInJerkass and [[spoiler:becoming the Shepherd while Sorey is asleep.]] The backlash of all these combined was so strong in Japan that it's almost as well-known as the game itself. She's less not as divisive in the west, west by comparison, but there are still some who feel this way.due to how well documented the whole issue is, she remains at ''best'' a BaseBreakingCharacter.
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** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. As noted above in DecoyProtagonist, the story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.

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** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. As noted above in DecoyProtagonist, the The story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.
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Complaining about the way a character phrases something is more nitpicking, especially when the ehtry lists other, more substantial complaints.


** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. He also develops a habit of either including Rita, Raven, and Estelle in the guild, or acting like they should stay behind while Brave Vesperia goes on to do things (depending on how you take his wording of "Brave Vesperia will do X" when he really means the entire team). Something nobody, not even Rita or Raven, call him out on. As noted above in DecoyProtagonist, the story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.

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** TagAlongKid Karol is hated by for being slow, [[TierInducedScrappy useless]], and because he ''never shuts up'' about guilds. Not to mention his character arc is about gaining the courage to risk his life for his friends, which seems like small potatoes when Yuri and Estelle were risking their lives to help total strangers right from the beginning of the game. It's also easy to question whether it isn't irresponsible of him to try and tag along with the Hunting Blades on monster hunts or the party on their dangerous travels when he's too cowardly not to [[TheLoad leave them in a lurch at the first sign of trouble]]. He also develops a habit of either including Rita, Raven, and Estelle in the guild, or acting like they should stay behind while Brave Vesperia goes on to do things (depending on how you take his wording of "Brave Vesperia will do X" when he really means the entire team). Something nobody, not even Rita or Raven, call him out on. As noted above in DecoyProtagonist, the story also seems to shift to be less about Yuri (or Estelle) and more about Karol after Ghasfarost, making him something of a SpotlightStealingSquad member.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'': Muzet, largely due to her KarmaHoudini status. [[spoiler: In Jude's path she outright ''murders'' most of the villagers in Nia Khera, just because they had heard [[HeKnowsTooMuch stories about the schism]], and to top it all off, also giving Jude a malignant MindRape about Milla's status as a double for Maxwell a bit too gleefully that he fell into a ''big'' HeroicBSOD. In Milla's path she does the same but we learn she also slaughtered many spirits out of suspicion that one may be Milla in disguise. Her feelings of being abandoned by Maxwell can come off as {{Wangst}} to the player.]] On top of all this, she's an absurdly cheap boss in Milla's story, one of the hardest in the game.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'': Muzet, largely due to her KarmaHoudini status. [[spoiler: In Jude's path she outright ''murders'' most of the villagers in Nia Khera, just because they had heard [[HeKnowsTooMuch stories about the schism]], and to top it all off, also giving Jude a malignant MindRape about Milla's status as a double for Maxwell a bit too gleefully that he fell into a ''big'' HeroicBSOD. In Milla's path she does the same but we learn she also slaughtered many spirits out of suspicion that one may be Milla in disguise. Her feelings of being abandoned by Maxwell can come off as {{Wangst}} to the player.]] On top of all this, she's an absurdly cheap boss in Milla's story, one of the hardest in the game. That said, she is less disliked in the sequel due to making a HeelFaceTurn and showing legitimate regret for her past behavior.
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Rutee was agreed upon in the Scrappy thread ages ago. She was hated character-wise while Leon was beloved, so your argument makes little sense. Take it up with the thread if you have issues with her inclusion.

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* ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny'': Rutee in the original game. She's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold {{Tsundere}} OnlyInItForTheMoney with too much emphasis on the jerk part, too much story sympathy, and violent interactions with characters who don't deserve it. Added with the DieForOurShip from Stahn[=/=]Leon fans, she's not well-liked at all, though her Jerkass tendencies were toned down in the remake, much like Leon's, and she shows remorse for some of her actions, like insulting Philia.
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At best Rutee is a Base Breaker, especially when compared to Leon considering that he regularly shocked the party on multiple occasions in the original. Rutee's greed only ever became significant in the Bad Ending where she and the rest of the party beat and become unstoppable bandits which admittedly pretty out of character for all of them.

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