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* Pietro's death. He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a human harpoon who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the floating city, while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy... then Quicksilver starts running circles around them. Eventually, the gunfire clears, and Pietro looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then crashes into the concrete.

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* Pietro's death. He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a human harpoon who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the floating city, while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy... then Quicksilver starts running circles around them. Eventually, the gunfire clears, and Pietro looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, his favorite catchphrase, then crashes into the concrete.
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--> '''Pietro:''' You didn't see that coming... ''[falls to the floor dead]''

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--> '''Pietro:''' [[PreMortemCatchphrase You didn't see that coming...coming]]... ''[falls to the floor dead]''
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** Blink and you'll miss it, but during Avenger's party when Steve and Tony are joking about "bad language word", there is quick shot on Thor's face. In one moment, Tony's teasing probably reminded him time when Loki was doing this to him.

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** Blink and you'll miss it, but during Avenger's the Avengers' party when Steve and Tony are joking about "bad language word", words", there is quick shot on Thor's face. In one moment, Tony's teasing probably reminded him of a time when Loki was doing this to him.
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* Tony giggling. Someone reached into his head, played on his PTSD and showed him a bad future. He tried to prevent it but it backfired horribly. His teammates are now hounding him for it. This is the sound of a man breaking.

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* Tony giggling. Someone reached into his head, played on his PTSD and showed him a bad future. He tried to prevent it it, but it backfired horribly. His teammates are now hounding him for it. This is the sound of a man breaking.



* Among others, the interactions between Thor and Steve after Scarlet Witch showed them the visions. Thor is the first one to leave Clints house and Steve immediately follows him outside, being concerned for him. Later when Steve and Tony are talking, Steve tells Tony to give Thor some time, saying that they "don't know what [Scarlet Witch] showed him". They know [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld what happened to him lately]] and the way they are concerned about him is tear-jerking in a heartwarming way.

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* Among others, the interactions between Thor and Steve after Scarlet Witch showed them the visions. Thor is the first one to leave Clints house Clint's home and Steve immediately follows him outside, being concerned for him. Later when Steve and Tony are talking, Steve tells Tony to give Thor some time, saying that they "don't know what [Scarlet Witch] showed him". They know [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld what happened to him lately]] and the way they are concerned about him is tear-jerking in a heartwarming way.
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* The fact that JARVIS sacrifices himself to protect the Avengers from a newborn Ultron. Later, the remains of his consciousness are placed into Vision, who bonds instantly with Thor but barely speaks to Tony, as if it would hurt the both of them too much if he did.

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* The fact that JARVIS J.A.R.V.I.S. sacrifices himself to protect the Avengers from a newborn Ultron. Later, the remains of his consciousness are placed into Vision, who bonds instantly with Thor but barely speaks to Tony, as if it would hurt the both of them too much if he did.
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** At the end of the fight, Iron Man plows the Hulk down through a half constructed tower, utterly destroying it. The next shot of horrified people running in the streets with the cloud of dust and debris rushing away from the tower is startlingly similar to footage of Manhattan after the World Trade Center towers collapsed, giving a bit of perspective of how the Muggles perceive everything that happens in the MCU.

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** At the end of the fight, Iron Man plows the Hulk down through a half constructed half-constructed tower, utterly destroying it. The next shot of horrified people running in the streets with the cloud of dust and debris rushing away from the tower is startlingly similar to footage of Manhattan after the World Trade Center towers collapsed, giving a bit of perspective of how the Muggles perceive everything that happens in the MCU.
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* After J.A.R.V.I.S. is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron, everything seems fine. However, Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.

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* After J.A.R.V.I.S. is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron, everything seems fine. However, Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S S. wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.
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** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living in a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.

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** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and to living in a back alleyway in New Delhi Delhi, with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.
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'''Tony:''' Yes there was. ''[throws a rendering of a ravaged JARVIS up]''
* After J.A.R.V.I.S. is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron everything seems fine. However, Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.

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'''Tony:''' Yes there was. ''[throws a rendering of a ravaged JARVIS J.A.R.V.I.S. up]''
* After J.A.R.V.I.S. is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron Ultron, everything seems fine. However, Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.
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** And the worst is probably Natasha, who flashes back to her training in the Red Room. As part of her initiation ceremony she had to shoot a bound and blindfolded person, as well as undergo surgery that left her sterile for the rest of her life.

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** And the worst is probably Natasha, who flashes back to her training in the Red Room. As part of her initiation ceremony ceremony, she had to shoot a bound and blindfolded person, as well as undergo surgery that left her sterile for the rest of her life.
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** Steve has a dream about seeing Peggy again at a party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by. By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:

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** Steve has a dream about seeing Peggy again at a party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by. By the end of the film. film, Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:
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** Tony sees the broken bodies of all of his friends, laid in a bloody pile on an asteroid before a portal much like the one the Chitauri invaded through. He reaches out to a dying Steve who gasps with his dying breath about how Tony could have tried harder to save them before succumbing as Tony helplessly watches the aliens fly to Earth. And worst of all, the whole scene foreshadows [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar the bloodiest war]] this world will ever see...
** Steve has a dream about seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by. By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:

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** Tony sees the broken bodies of all of his friends, laid in a bloody pile on an asteroid before a portal much like the one the Chitauri invaded through. He reaches out to a dying Steve Steve, who gasps with his dying breath about how Tony could have tried harder to save them before succumbing as Tony helplessly watches the aliens fly to Earth. And worst of all, the whole scene foreshadows [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar the bloodiest war]] this world will ever see...
** Steve has a dream about seeing Peggy again at a party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by. By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:
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** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living at a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.

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** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living at in a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.
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*** Gets [[FridgeHorror worse]] when you remember Bruce telling the team in the first movie that he ''has'' tried to end his life, by putting a gun in his mouth, and "the other guy spat [the bullet] out". The ''Hulk'' didn't want to die, so he stopped ''Banner'' from killing "them". But after that final scene in Age Of Ultron, it's not a dead-cert that the Hulk feels that way anymore, that he values his own life enough. So what happens the ''next'' time Bruce hits that suicidal low, and tries again? Will the Hulk even ''try'' to keep them alive? Or will he want to let it all end, too?

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*** Gets [[FridgeHorror worse]] when you remember Bruce telling the team in the first movie that he ''has'' tried to end his life, by putting a gun in his mouth, and "the other guy spat [the bullet] out". The ''Hulk'' didn't want to die, so he stopped ''Banner'' from killing "them". But after that final scene in Age Of Ultron, ''Age of Ultron'', it's not a dead-cert that the Hulk feels that way anymore, that he values his own life enough. So what happens the ''next'' time Bruce hits that suicidal low, and tries again? Will the Hulk even ''try'' to keep them alive? Or will he want to let it all end, too?
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** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done... and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.

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** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened awoke from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done... and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.
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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when it seems like they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him, Hulk (or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control) pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.

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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when it seems like they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then than willing to accept any risk with him, Hulk (or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control) pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.
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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when it seems like they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.

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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when it seems like they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. him, Hulk or (or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control control) pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.
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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when is seems they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.

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** What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when is it seems like they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.
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*** And to think right before it he had said "I'm not going to leave you here."

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*** And to think think, right before it he had said said, "I'm not going to leave you here."
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** What's worse? Wanda's reaction. Guarding the magnetic core in the monastery, and she senses that her brother's mind is ''gone.'' The silent SkywardScream she gives and her anguished grief are nothing short of heartbreaking. Pietro was the only family she had left in the world and her best friend, and now he's lying on the rubble, with hundreds of bullets in him.

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** What's worse? Wanda's reaction. Guarding the magnetic core in the monastery, and she senses that her brother's mind is ''gone.'' The silent SkywardScream she gives and her anguished grief are nothing short of heartbreaking. Pietro was the only family she had left in the world and her best friend, and now he's lying on the rubble, with hundreds of bullets in him.
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* Pietro's death. He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a human harpoon who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the floating city, while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...then Quicksilver starts running circles around them. Eventually, the gunfire clears, and Pietro looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then crashes into the concrete.

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* Pietro's death. He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a human harpoon who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the floating city, while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy... then Quicksilver starts running circles around them. Eventually, the gunfire clears, and Pietro looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then crashes into the concrete.



** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.

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** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done... and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.



** Made much worse when you realize just how much JARVIS meant to Tony. A memento of the family butler, who was likely Tony's father figure growing up. His lab partner, copilot and confidant of twenty odd years. His greatest creation. Ultron just essentially killed Stark's last remaining family. When you see Stark looking at JARVIS' shattered "code" he is heartbroken.

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** Made much worse when you realize just how much JARVIS J.A.R.V.I.S. meant to Tony. A memento of the family butler, who was likely Tony's father figure growing up. His lab partner, copilot and confidant of twenty odd years. His greatest creation. Ultron just essentially killed Stark's last remaining family. When you see Stark looking at JARVIS' J.A.R.V.I.S.' shattered "code" "code", he is heartbroken.



* Fridge example: Tony runs the mission to South Africa without JARVIS. Whatever software is running his suit in that sequence, it's nothing with a personality. We later find out that he had dozens of backup [=AIs=] to choose from, but he doesn't install FRIDAY until the final battle. Doubtless, he loved JARVIS too much to replace him so quickly. Vision's birth finally enabled him to move on and pick a new companion to reside in the Iron Man suit with him.
* A happier version than most examples of this page - while Natasha can't have children because she was sterilised in the Red Room, it's made clear that she's a big part of Clint and Laura's family, and a beloved aunt to their children, with them even naming their third child after her.

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* Fridge example: Tony runs the mission to South Africa without JARVIS.J.A.R.V.I.S. Whatever software is running his suit in that sequence, it's nothing with a personality. We later find out that he had dozens of backup [=AIs=] to choose from, but he doesn't install FRIDAY until the final battle. Doubtless, he loved JARVIS J.A.R.V.I.S. too much to replace him so quickly. Vision's birth finally enabled him to move on and pick a new companion to reside in the Iron Man suit with him.
* A happier version than most examples of this page - while Natasha can't have children because she was sterilised sterilized in the Red Room, it's made clear that she's a big part of Clint and Laura's family, and a beloved aunt to their children, with them even naming their third child after her.
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**Blink and you'll miss it, but during Avenger's party when Steve and Tony are joking about "bad language word", there is quick shot on Thor's face. In one moment, Tony's teasing probably reminded him time when Loki was doing this to him.
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* [[spoiler: Pietro's death.]] He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a [[spoiler: human harpoon]] who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the [[spoiler: floating city]], while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...[[spoiler: then Quicksilver starts running circles around them.]] Eventually, the gunfire clears, and [[spoiler: Pietro]] looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then [[spoiler: crashes into the concrete.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Pietro:''' You didn't see that coming... ''[falls to the floor dead]'']]
** What's worse? [[spoiler: Wanda's reaction.]] Guarding the magnetic core in the monastery, and [[spoiler: she senses that her brother's mind is ''gone.'']] The silent SkywardScream [[spoiler: she gives and her anguished grief]] are nothing short of heartbreaking. [[spoiler: Pietro was the only family she had left in the world and her best friend]], and now he's lying on the rubble, [[spoiler: with hundreds of bullets in him.]]
*** And to think right before it he had said [[spoiler: "I'm not going to leave you here."]]
** [[spoiler: Hawkeye and Cap]] immediately make frantic attempts to revive him, [[spoiler: but Pietro's already dead.]] So, [[spoiler: Hawkeye carries his bloodstained body to the last escape ship,]] and collapses into the seats [[spoiler: with Pietro's corpse near him.]]
** When, at the end of the movie, you get a glimpse of [[spoiler: Hawkeye's newborn son, and see the boy's shirt: Nathaniel '''Pietro''' Barton, named in honor of the man who sacrificed himself to save the boy's father]].

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* [[spoiler: Pietro's death.]] death. He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a [[spoiler: human harpoon]] harpoon who annihilates any robots in his path. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the [[spoiler: floating city]], city, while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...[[spoiler: then Quicksilver starts running circles around them.]] them. Eventually, the gunfire clears, and [[spoiler: Pietro]] Pietro looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then [[spoiler: crashes into the concrete.]]
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--> [[spoiler:'''Pietro:''' '''Pietro:''' You didn't see that coming... ''[falls to the floor dead]'']]
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** What's worse? [[spoiler: Wanda's reaction.]] reaction. Guarding the magnetic core in the monastery, and [[spoiler: she senses that her brother's mind is ''gone.'']] '' The silent SkywardScream [[spoiler: she gives and her anguished grief]] grief are nothing short of heartbreaking. [[spoiler: Pietro was the only family she had left in the world and her best friend]], friend, and now he's lying on the rubble, [[spoiler: rubble, with hundreds of bullets in him.]]
him.
*** And to think right before it he had said [[spoiler: "I'm not going to leave you here."]]
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** [[spoiler: Hawkeye and Cap]] Cap immediately make frantic attempts to revive him, [[spoiler: but Pietro's already dead.]] dead. So, [[spoiler: Hawkeye carries his bloodstained body to the last escape ship,]] ship, and collapses into the seats [[spoiler: with Pietro's corpse near him.]]
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** When, at the end of the movie, you get a glimpse of [[spoiler: Hawkeye's newborn son, and see the boy's shirt: Nathaniel '''Pietro''' Barton, named in honor of the man who sacrificed himself to save the boy's father]].father.



** [[spoiler: The physical fight later on over Vision's creation]] is nasty {{Foreshadowing}} too.
** Before that, Bruce openly expresses his disbelief of Wanda's HeelFaceTurn, and [[BewareTheNiceOnes his eagerness to kill her for mind-raping him]] ''[[TranquilFury without]]'' [[TranquilFury transforming]]. [[spoiler: He does just that when he manages to place her in a chokehold before Wanda breaks free and stuns him with her magic.]]
* Bruce Banner's general dilemma throughout the film. He begins to realize that through turning into the Hulk, he is constantly putting civilian lives at risk, and starts to sink into depression from these ramifications. This hits a turning point after Hulk, who had been under the influence of Scarlet Witch's hypnosis, has been snapped out of his trance by his and Iron Man's fight throughout a city, and sees beyond all the rubble the scarred, injured, terrified faces of civilians he has affected as a result of his destruction. The scene afterwards shows Banner huddled in the Quinjet giving a ThousandYardStare. [[spoiler:Following the film's final battle, Natasha tells Hulk to return to the rest of the team in the Quinjet, but he refuses by abruptly ending their video call, and flies the ship away from civilization. His location remains unknown by the end of the film.]]
** [[spoiler: What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when is seems they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.]]
** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. [[spoiler: It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.]]
*** [[spoiler: And he's not changing back. He's not raging, he's not fuming, he's just overwhelmed with the one kind of anger that he can't release by tearing things up. Hulk is bitterly, abashedly angry at ''himself'', and hasn't a clue how to cope with it. He can't even take comfort in having saved Natasha from Ultron's prison cell, because "puny Banner" was the one who did that.]]
*** Gets [[FridgeHorror worse]] when you remember Bruce telling the team in the first movie that [[spoiler: he ''has'' tried to end his life, by putting a gun in his mouth, and "the other guy spat [the bullet] out". The ''Hulk'' didn't want to die, so he stopped ''Banner'' from killing "them". But after that final scene in Age Of Ultron, it's not a dead-cert that the Hulk feels that way anymore, that he values his own life enough. So what happens the ''next'' time Bruce hits that suicidal low, and tries again? Will the Hulk even ''try'' to keep them alive? Or will he want to let it all end, too?]]
** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living at a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. [[spoiler: The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.]]

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** [[spoiler: The physical fight later on over Vision's creation]] creation is nasty {{Foreshadowing}} too.
** Before that, Bruce openly expresses his disbelief of Wanda's HeelFaceTurn, and [[BewareTheNiceOnes his eagerness to kill her for mind-raping him]] ''[[TranquilFury without]]'' [[TranquilFury transforming]]. [[spoiler: He does just that when he manages to place her in a chokehold before Wanda breaks free and stuns him with her magic.]]
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* Bruce Banner's general dilemma throughout the film. He begins to realize that through turning into the Hulk, he is constantly putting civilian lives at risk, and starts to sink into depression from these ramifications. This hits a turning point after Hulk, who had been under the influence of Scarlet Witch's hypnosis, has been snapped out of his trance by his and Iron Man's fight throughout a city, and sees beyond all the rubble the scarred, injured, terrified faces of civilians he has affected as a result of his destruction. The scene afterwards shows Banner huddled in the Quinjet giving a ThousandYardStare. [[spoiler:Following Following the film's final battle, Natasha tells Hulk to return to the rest of the team in the Quinjet, but he refuses by abruptly ending their video call, and flies the ship away from civilization. His location remains unknown by the end of the film.]]
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** [[spoiler: What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when is seems they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.]]
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** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. [[spoiler: It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinjet -- and again, this is the Hulk we're talking about here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.]]
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*** [[spoiler: And he's not changing back. He's not raging, he's not fuming, he's just overwhelmed with the one kind of anger that he can't release by tearing things up. Hulk is bitterly, abashedly angry at ''himself'', and hasn't a clue how to cope with it. He can't even take comfort in having saved Natasha from Ultron's prison cell, because "puny Banner" was the one who did that.]]
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*** Gets [[FridgeHorror worse]] when you remember Bruce telling the team in the first movie that [[spoiler: he ''has'' tried to end his life, by putting a gun in his mouth, and "the other guy spat [the bullet] out". The ''Hulk'' didn't want to die, so he stopped ''Banner'' from killing "them". But after that final scene in Age Of Ultron, it's not a dead-cert that the Hulk feels that way anymore, that he values his own life enough. So what happens the ''next'' time Bruce hits that suicidal low, and tries again? Will the Hulk even ''try'' to keep them alive? Or will he want to let it all end, too?]]
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** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living at a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. [[spoiler: The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.]]



* Pietro and Wanda's backstory. [[spoiler: Their parents were killed by a Stark bomb, and they spent two days under a bed, thinking that the one that didn't explode would kill them at any minute. They were only ten years old.]]

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* Pietro and Wanda's backstory. [[spoiler: Their parents were killed by a Stark bomb, and they spent two days under a bed, thinking that the one that didn't explode would kill them at any minute. They were only ten years old.]]



** Tony sees [[spoiler: the broken bodies of all of his friends, laid in a bloody pile on an asteroid before a portal much like the one the Chitauri invaded through. He reaches out to a dying Steve who gasps with his dying breath about how Tony could have tried harder to save them before succumbing as Tony helplessly watches the aliens fly to Earth.]] And worst of all, the whole scene foreshadows [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar the bloodiest war]] this world will ever see...
** Steve has a dream about [[spoiler: seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by.]] By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:

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** Tony sees [[spoiler: the broken bodies of all of his friends, laid in a bloody pile on an asteroid before a portal much like the one the Chitauri invaded through. He reaches out to a dying Steve who gasps with his dying breath about how Tony could have tried harder to save them before succumbing as Tony helplessly watches the aliens fly to Earth.]] And worst of all, the whole scene foreshadows [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar the bloodiest war]] this world will ever see...
** Steve has a dream about [[spoiler: seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by.]] By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:



** Thor has a vision of [[spoiler: his people in Asgard having all gone completely mad. He even runs into a blinded Heimdall who gleefully claims that they are all dead in a very disturbing way, and the party is, in fact, the Norse version of Hell.]] And if you [[Film/ThorRagnarok already know what's to come]], and read Myth/NorseMythology before, this scene suddenly becomes a horrifying CallForward.
** And the worst is probably Natasha, who [[spoiler: flashes back to her training in the Red Room. As part of her initiation ceremony she had to shoot a bound and blindfolded person, as well as undergo surgery that left her sterile for the rest of her life.]]
*** There's something else worth noting with that scene. While everyone else sees [[spoiler:their fears of failing those around them]], she sees [[spoiler:her actual past. She literally cannot think of anything more traumatic than ''what she's already been through'']].

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** Thor has a vision of [[spoiler: his people in Asgard having all gone completely mad. He even runs into a blinded Heimdall who gleefully claims that they are all dead in a very disturbing way, and the party is, in fact, the Norse version of Hell.]] And if you [[Film/ThorRagnarok already know what's to come]], and read Myth/NorseMythology before, this scene suddenly becomes a horrifying CallForward.
** And the worst is probably Natasha, who [[spoiler: flashes back to her training in the Red Room. As part of her initiation ceremony she had to shoot a bound and blindfolded person, as well as undergo surgery that left her sterile for the rest of her life.]]
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*** There's something else worth noting with that scene. While everyone else sees [[spoiler:their their fears of failing those around them]], them, she sees [[spoiler:her her actual past. She literally cannot think of anything more traumatic than ''what she's already been through'']].through''.



* Ultron's first act when coming online is to mercilessly attack [[spoiler: and attempt to murder J.A.R.V.I.S.]], who at that point is only trying to gently talk the newborn A.I. down.

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* Ultron's first act when coming online is to mercilessly attack [[spoiler: and attempt to murder J.A.R.V.I.S.]], , who at that point is only trying to gently talk the newborn A.I. down.



* After [[spoiler:J.A.R.V.I.S.]] is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron everything seems fine. However, [[spoiler:Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.]]
* He may have done and planned to do horrible things, but Ultron genuinely cares for the Maximoff twins. [[spoiler:When they turn on him, he doesn't want to fight them, tries not to hurt them, and even laments that he's "alone" to Black Widow after kidnapping her. When Wanda comes in to finish off his main body, he doesn't even care that she intends to kill him (not that it's a big deal for him). He only cares that she's going to die.]]
** It even seems to serve to show just how insane Ultron is, that he can't seem to realize what his actions will cause for them. He doesn't even seem to try reconcile his fondness for them with the fact that [[spoiler:wiping out humanity will also kill them.]]
** They also cared about him as well, likely viewing him as a father figure of sorts. When Ultron's [[spoiler:true plan for humanity]] is revealed, they're horrified, of course, but also deeply, visibly hurt. During his insane rambling, they both tear up at the [[spoiler:revelation of his true character]], and Wanda in particular looks ''devastated''.

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* After [[spoiler:J.J.A.R.V.I.S.]] is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron everything seems fine. However, [[spoiler:Vision Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.]]
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* He may have done and planned to do horrible things, but Ultron genuinely cares for the Maximoff twins. [[spoiler:When When they turn on him, he doesn't want to fight them, tries not to hurt them, and even laments that he's "alone" to Black Widow after kidnapping her. When Wanda comes in to finish off his main body, he doesn't even care that she intends to kill him (not that it's a big deal for him). He only cares that she's going to die.]]
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** It even seems to serve to show just how insane Ultron is, that he can't seem to realize what his actions will cause for them. He doesn't even seem to try reconcile his fondness for them with the fact that [[spoiler:wiping wiping out humanity will also kill them.]]
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** They also cared about him as well, likely viewing him as a father figure of sorts. When Ultron's [[spoiler:true true plan for humanity]] humanity is revealed, they're horrified, of course, but also deeply, visibly hurt. During his insane rambling, they both tear up at the [[spoiler:revelation revelation of his true character]], character, and Wanda in particular looks ''devastated''.



** [[spoiler:Right after the twins sabotage the cradle and make a run for it,]] Ultron's first reaction is to call out to them, then he says:

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** [[spoiler:Right Right after the twins sabotage the cradle and make a run for it,]] it, Ultron's first reaction is to call out to them, then he says:



* Banner and Natasha discussing the issues with a possible relationship, concentrating on an issue they both have: [[spoiler:neither can have children; Banner because he'll [[HulkingOut hulk out]] and is probably sterile from the radiation, and Natasha because she was sterilized by those who trained her, since getting pregnant would be a distraction or even a cause for conflict of loyalties.]]
* Ultron's [[spoiler: death. This is discussed with the Vision close to the end of the movie, in which it is revealed that Ultron is afraid to die. It is clear that the Vision doesn't see Ultron as totally evil, but more like a rabid dog who has to be put down for the good of the world. Even after all he did, it is still somehow sad to see him go.]]
** It can be seen as much worse than that. [[spoiler: Vision and Ultron are as close to related as robots can be, so Vision is basically being forced to kill his brother, whom he pretty much confirms at his birth is someone he cares about and wants to keep alive. And better yet, Vision wasn't even acting hostile, having a friendly discussion of philosophy with Ultron. Had Ultron gone in compliance to a surrender, Vision almost certainly would have agreed. But Ultron forced his hand, by attacking him at the very last moment, and Vision kills him as the camera cuts. From how hopeless the situation seems, it comes across as Ultron's SuicideByCop.]]
** [[spoiler: Just the defeated tone in Ultron's voice when he tells Vision "They're doomed." during their conversation about humanity. You get the feeling that somewhere deep down, Ultron still wanted to protect humanity. He could've been a hero.]]
* [[spoiler: Wanda confronting and killing Ultron. Ultron worries that Wanda will die, but she retorts that she already did when her brother died.]]
--> '''Ultron:''' [[spoiler:Wanda. If you stay here, you'll die.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[spoiler:I just did. Do you know how it felt? ''[Rips out Ultron's core with her powers, shutting him down in the process]'' It felt like that.]]

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* Banner and Natasha discussing the issues with a possible relationship, concentrating on an issue they both have: [[spoiler:neither neither can have children; Banner because he'll [[HulkingOut hulk out]] and is probably sterile from the radiation, and Natasha because she was sterilized by those who trained her, since getting pregnant would be a distraction or even a cause for conflict of loyalties.]]
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* Ultron's [[spoiler: death. This is discussed with the Vision close to the end of the movie, in which it is revealed that Ultron is afraid to die. It is clear that the Vision doesn't see Ultron as totally evil, but more like a rabid dog who has to be put down for the good of the world. Even after all he did, it is still somehow sad to see him go.]]
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** It can be seen as much worse than that. [[spoiler: Vision and Ultron are as close to related as robots can be, so Vision is basically being forced to kill his brother, whom he pretty much confirms at his birth is someone he cares about and wants to keep alive. And better yet, Vision wasn't even acting hostile, having a friendly discussion of philosophy with Ultron. Had Ultron gone in compliance to a surrender, Vision almost certainly would have agreed. But Ultron forced his hand, by attacking him at the very last moment, and Vision kills him as the camera cuts. From how hopeless the situation seems, it comes across as Ultron's SuicideByCop.]]
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** [[spoiler: Just the defeated tone in Ultron's voice when he tells Vision "They're doomed." during their conversation about humanity. You get the feeling that somewhere deep down, Ultron still wanted to protect humanity. He could've been a hero.]]
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* [[spoiler: Wanda confronting and killing Ultron. Ultron worries that Wanda will die, but she retorts that she already did when her brother died.]]
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--> '''Ultron:''' [[spoiler:Wanda.Wanda. If you stay here, you'll die.]]\\
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'''Wanda:''' [[spoiler:I I just did. Do you know how it felt? ''[Rips out Ultron's core with her powers, shutting him down in the process]'' It felt like that.]]



* The fact that [[spoiler: JARVIS sacrifices himself to protect the Avengers from a newborn Ultron. Later, the remains of his consciousness are placed into Vision, who bonds instantly with Thor but barely speaks to Tony, as if it would hurt the both of them too much if he did.]]
** Made much worse when you realize just how much [[spoiler: JARVIS]] meant to Tony. [[spoiler: A memento of the family butler, who was likely Tony's father figure growing up. His lab partner, copilot and confidant of twenty odd years. His greatest creation.]] Ultron just essentially killed Stark's last remaining family. When you see Stark looking at [[spoiler: JARVIS' shattered "code"]] he is heartbroken.
** Every time Tony glances at [[spoiler: Vision]], it's with this proud, yet forlorn expression.

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* The fact that [[spoiler: JARVIS sacrifices himself to protect the Avengers from a newborn Ultron. Later, the remains of his consciousness are placed into Vision, who bonds instantly with Thor but barely speaks to Tony, as if it would hurt the both of them too much if he did.]]
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** Made much worse when you realize just how much [[spoiler: JARVIS]] JARVIS meant to Tony. [[spoiler: A memento of the family butler, who was likely Tony's father figure growing up. His lab partner, copilot and confidant of twenty odd years. His greatest creation.]] Ultron just essentially killed Stark's last remaining family. When you see Stark looking at [[spoiler: JARVIS' shattered "code"]] "code" he is heartbroken.
** Every time Tony glances at [[spoiler: Vision]], Vision, it's with this proud, yet forlorn expression.



* Fridge example: Tony runs the mission to South Africa without JARVIS. Whatever software is running his suit in that sequence, it's nothing with a personality. [[spoiler:We later find out that he had dozens of backup [=AIs=] to choose from, but he doesn't install FRIDAY until the final battle. Doubtless, he loved JARVIS too much to replace him so quickly. Vision's birth finally enabled him to move on and pick a new companion to reside in the Iron Man suit with him.]]

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* Fridge example: Tony runs the mission to South Africa without JARVIS. Whatever software is running his suit in that sequence, it's nothing with a personality. [[spoiler:We We later find out that he had dozens of backup [=AIs=] to choose from, but he doesn't install FRIDAY until the final battle. Doubtless, he loved JARVIS too much to replace him so quickly. Vision's birth finally enabled him to move on and pick a new companion to reside in the Iron Man suit with him.]]
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* [[spoiler: Pietro's death.]] He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a [[spoiler: human harpoon]] who annihilates any robots in his path. As well as that, he's charismatic, he's [[MrFanservice handsome and muscular]] and [[spoiler: has a nice accent]]. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the [[spoiler: floating city]], while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...[[spoiler: then Quicksilver starts running circles around them.]] Eventually, the gunfire clears, and [[spoiler: Pietro]] looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then [[spoiler: crashes into the concrete.]]

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* [[spoiler: Pietro's death.]] He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a [[spoiler: human harpoon]] who annihilates any robots in his path. As well as that, he's charismatic, he's [[MrFanservice handsome and muscular]] and [[spoiler: has a nice accent]]. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the [[spoiler: floating city]], while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...[[spoiler: then Quicksilver starts running circles around them.]] Eventually, the gunfire clears, and [[spoiler: Pietro]] looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then [[spoiler: crashes into the concrete.]]
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--> '''Ultron:''' [[spoiler: Wanda. If you stay here, you'll die.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[spoiler: I just did. Do you know how it felt? *Rips out Ultron's core with her powers, shutting him down in the process* It felt like that.]]

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--> '''Ultron:''' [[spoiler: Wanda.[[spoiler:Wanda. If you stay here, you'll die.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[spoiler: I [[spoiler:I just did. Do you know how it felt? *Rips ''[Rips out Ultron's core with her powers, shutting him down in the process* process]'' It felt like that.]]
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* Bruce Banner's general dilemma throughout the film. He begins to realise that through turning into the Hulk, he is constantly putting civilian lives at risk, and starts to sink into depression from these ramifications. This hits a turning point after Hulk, who had been under the influence of Scarlet Witch's hypnosis, has been snapped out of his trance by him and Iron Man's fight throughout a city, and sees beyond all the rubble the scarred, injured, terrified faces of civilians he has affected as a result of his destruction. The scene afterwards shows Banner huddled in the Quinnjet giving a ThousandYardStare. [[spoiler:Following the film's final battle, Natasha tells Hulk to return to the rest of the team in the Quinnjet, but he refuses by abruptly ending their video call, and flies the ship away from civilization. His location remains unknown by the end of the film.]]

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* Bruce Banner's general dilemma throughout the film. He begins to realise realize that through turning into the Hulk, he is constantly putting civilian lives at risk, and starts to sink into depression from these ramifications. This hits a turning point after Hulk, who had been under the influence of Scarlet Witch's hypnosis, has been snapped out of his trance by him his and Iron Man's fight throughout a city, and sees beyond all the rubble the scarred, injured, terrified faces of civilians he has affected as a result of his destruction. The scene afterwards shows Banner huddled in the Quinnjet Quinjet giving a ThousandYardStare. [[spoiler:Following the film's final battle, Natasha tells Hulk to return to the rest of the team in the Quinnjet, Quinjet, but he refuses by abruptly ending their video call, and flies the ship away from civilization. His location remains unknown by the end of the film.]]



** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. [[spoiler: It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinnjet --and again, this is The Hulk we're talking about here-- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.]]

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** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. [[spoiler: It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinnjet --and Quinjet -- and again, this is The the Hulk we're talking about here-- here -- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.]]



---> ''I don't know. [[IJustWantToBeNormal Family, stability... the guy who wanted all that]] [[HeroicSacrifice went in the ice 75 years ago]]. [[ThatManIsDead I think someone else came out]].''

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** Steve has a dream about [[spoiler: seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by.]]

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** Steve has a dream about [[spoiler: seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by.]]]] By the end of the film. Steve seems resigned that he'll never get away from it:
--> ''[[IJustWantToBeNormal Family, stability... the guy who wanted all that]] [[HeroicSacrifice went in the ice 75 years ago]]. [[ThatManIsDead I think someone else came out]].''
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--> [[spoiler:'''Pietro:''' You didn't see that coming... *falls to the floor dead*]]

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'''Steve:''' (quietly) Together.\\
'''Tony:''' (equally quiet) We'll ''lose.''\\

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'''Steve:''' (quietly) ''[quietly]'' Together.\\
'''Tony:''' (equally quiet) ''[equally quiet]'' We'll ''lose.''\\



-->'''Ultron:'' They'll understand. When they see, they'll understand.

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* [[spoiler: Pietro's death.]] He's looking like he's going to be one of the best Avengers, being a [[spoiler: human harpoon]] who annihilates any robots in his path. As well as that, he's charismatic, he's [[MrFanservice handsome and muscular]] and [[spoiler: has a nice accent]]. Then, Hawkeye goes to rescue a 12-year old kid stuck in the [[spoiler: floating city]], while Ultron is coming in with a Quinjet, firing heavy-caliber [[GatlingGood gatling gun rounds]] at both of them. Hawkeye hugs the boy...[[spoiler: then Quicksilver starts running circles around them.]] Eventually, the gunfire clears, and [[spoiler: Pietro]] looks perfectly fine, despite several bloody gunshot wounds. He gasps out a one liner, then [[spoiler: crashes into the concrete.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Pietro:''' You didn't see that coming... *falls to the floor dead*]]
** What's worse? [[spoiler: Wanda's reaction.]] Guarding the magnetic core in the monastery, and [[spoiler: she senses that her brother's mind is ''gone.'']] The silent SkywardScream [[spoiler: she gives and her anguished grief]] are nothing short of heartbreaking. [[spoiler: Pietro was the only family she had left in the world and her best friend]], and now he's lying on the rubble, [[spoiler: with hundreds of bullets in him.]]
*** And to think right before it he had said [[spoiler: "I'm not going to leave you here."]]
** [[spoiler: Hawkeye and Cap]] immediately make frantic attempts to revive him, [[spoiler: but Pietro's already dead.]] So, [[spoiler: Hawkeye carries his bloodstained body to the last escape ship,]] and collapses into the seats [[spoiler: with Pietro's corpse near him.]]
** When, at the end of the movie, you get a glimpse of [[spoiler: Hawkeye's newborn son, and see the boy's shirt: Nathaniel '''Pietro''' Barton, named in honor of the man who sacrificed himself to save the boy's father]].
** A bit of NightmareFuel to Scarlet Witch fans who know [[ComicBook/HouseOfM what she tends to do when in heavy grief...]]
* The verbal battle between Tony and Steve becomes pretty depressing if you know [[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar what's to come very soon...]].
-->'''Tony:''' How were you guys planning on beating them [all]?\\
'''Steve:''' (quietly) Together.\\
'''Tony:''' (equally quiet) We'll ''lose.''\\
'''Steve:''' Then we'll do ''that'' together too.
** [[spoiler: The physical fight later on over Vision's creation]] is nasty {{Foreshadowing}} too.
** Before that, Bruce openly expresses his disbelief of Wanda's HeelFaceTurn, and [[BewareTheNiceOnes his eagerness to kill her for mind-raping him]] ''[[TranquilFury without]]'' [[TranquilFury transforming]]. [[spoiler: He does just that when he manages to place her in a chokehold before Wanda breaks free and stuns him with her magic.]]
* Bruce Banner's general dilemma throughout the film. He begins to realise that through turning into the Hulk, he is constantly putting civilian lives at risk, and starts to sink into depression from these ramifications. This hits a turning point after Hulk, who had been under the influence of Scarlet Witch's hypnosis, has been snapped out of his trance by him and Iron Man's fight throughout a city, and sees beyond all the rubble the scarred, injured, terrified faces of civilians he has affected as a result of his destruction. The scene afterwards shows Banner huddled in the Quinnjet giving a ThousandYardStare. [[spoiler:Following the film's final battle, Natasha tells Hulk to return to the rest of the team in the Quinnjet, but he refuses by abruptly ending their video call, and flies the ship away from civilization. His location remains unknown by the end of the film.]]
** [[spoiler: What makes it even more heartbreaking is her stunned expression afterward. Just when is seems they finally got over their relationship troubles and she was more then willing to accept any risk with him. Hulk or possibly Bruce slowly regaining control pretty much decides he isn't ready for it yet and can't even tell it to her face.]]
** The worst part of it all? You have to remember, it's not Bruce. [[spoiler: It's ''Hulk''. Earlier in the movie, when he awakened from his Scarlet Witch-induced rage, he took one look around at the devastation he wrought and was ''horrified'' at it. This is the hate-fueled brute who once had zero qualms risking hundreds of lives in collateral damage to eradicate what rested between point A and point B. As he sits hunched in the Quinnjet --and again, this is The Hulk we're talking about here-- he has no rage or any tension. In a seemingly impossible move for someone who has only ever acted with crushing force, Hulk calmly shuts off the call from Natasha. He doesn't even smash the console, he simply and gently turns it off. He just seems completely traumatized and defeated by the hell he's wrought. Hulk has finally reflected on the things he's done...and it's brought back his self-loathing in a whole new way.]]
*** [[spoiler: And he's not changing back. He's not raging, he's not fuming, he's just overwhelmed with the one kind of anger that he can't release by tearing things up. Hulk is bitterly, abashedly angry at ''himself'', and hasn't a clue how to cope with it. He can't even take comfort in having saved Natasha from Ultron's prison cell, because "puny Banner" was the one who did that.]]
*** Gets [[FridgeHorror worse]] when you remember Bruce telling the team in the first movie that [[spoiler: he ''has'' tried to end his life, by putting a gun in his mouth, and "the other guy spat [the bullet] out". The ''Hulk'' didn't want to die, so he stopped ''Banner'' from killing "them". But after that final scene in Age Of Ultron, it's not a dead-cert that the Hulk feels that way anymore, that he values his own life enough. So what happens the ''next'' time Bruce hits that suicidal low, and tries again? Will the Hulk even ''try'' to keep them alive? Or will he want to let it all end, too?]]
** Going back to the first film, Banner had gone from a fugitive from the law and living at a back alleyway in New Delhi with the constant fear of losing control and hurting people. Then he gets recruited into the Avengers, finds a purpose for the Hulk as a force for good and is given a job working for Stark and it seems things are finally looking up for him. [[spoiler: The entire film takes that away from him as it confirms that due to the Hulk, he can never live a normal, happy life.]]
* It's also a sad ending for Natasha. The Soviet Union is gone, the Red Room is gone, S.H.I.E.L.D is effectively rebuilding and redeeming itself. She's starting to loosen up and think she might become something better than a spy and assassin. She was probably more attracted to Banner's morality than anything else, and he may have made a fabulous MoralityPet if they decided to run off and start over. But in the end, she acts with her training as a spy and operative. Yes, for all the right reasons. Still, there isn't going to be any redemption or escape from her training any more than Banner will have from "the other guy." They'll be monsters for the rest of their lives with no possibility of being anything else.
* Pietro and Wanda's backstory. [[spoiler: Their parents were killed by a Stark bomb, and they spent two days under a bed, thinking that the one that didn't explode would kill them at any minute. They were only ten years old.]]
* The visions that Scarlet Witch forces each of the Avengers to see throughout the movie are all heartwrenching:
** Tony sees [[spoiler: the broken bodies of all of his friends, laid in a bloody pile on an asteroid before a portal much like the one the Chitauri invaded through. He reaches out to a dying Steve who gasps with his dying breath about how Tony could have tried harder to save them before succumbing as Tony helplessly watches the aliens fly to Earth.]] And worst of all, the whole scene foreshadows [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar the bloodiest war]] this world will ever see...
** Steve has a dream about [[spoiler: seeing Peggy again at party where she asks him to dance and celebrate that the war is over. He wakes up realizing he has no home, as he's a soldier built for war and doesn't know what to do when the fighting stops, as well as being from a time gone by.]]
** Thor has a vision of [[spoiler: his people in Asgard having all gone completely mad. He even runs into a blinded Heimdall who gleefully claims that they are all dead in a very disturbing way, and the party is, in fact, the Norse version of Hell.]] And if you [[Film/ThorRagnarok already know what's to come]], and read Myth/NorseMythology before, this scene suddenly becomes a horrifying CallForward.
** And the worst is probably Natasha, who [[spoiler: flashes back to her training in the Red Room. As part of her initiation ceremony she had to shoot a bound and blindfolded person, as well as undergo surgery that left her sterile for the rest of her life.]]
*** There's something else worth noting with that scene. While everyone else sees [[spoiler:their fears of failing those around them]], she sees [[spoiler:her actual past. She literally cannot think of anything more traumatic than ''what she's already been through'']].
** NothingIsScarier: We don't even ''see'' Bruce's vision. Or what ''the Hulk'' continues to see, when he's flailing around half-delusional and tearing a city apart.
* Ultron's first act when coming online is to mercilessly attack [[spoiler: and attempt to murder J.A.R.V.I.S.]], who at that point is only trying to gently talk the newborn A.I. down.
** When Ultron confronts the Avengers a moment later, his description of what he did is a rather odd contradicting mix of cold but regretful.
--->'''Ultron:''' Had to kill the other guy, he was a good guy.\\
'''Steve:''' You killed someone?\\
'''Ultron:''' Wouldn't have been my first call.
**
--->'''Maria Hill:''' There wasn't anybody else in the building.\\
'''Tony:''' Yes there was. ''[throws a rendering of a ravaged JARVIS up]''
* After [[spoiler:J.A.R.V.I.S.]] is successfully integrated into the android body made for Ultron everything seems fine. However, [[spoiler:Vision quickly explains that while J.A.R.V.I.S. is a part of him, he's not actually J.A.R.V.I.S. This is just ''after'' Tony revealed J.A.R.V.I.S wasn't completely destroyed by Ultron. Talk about an effective HopeSpot to the audience.]]
* He may have done and planned to do horrible things, but Ultron genuinely cares for the Maximoff twins. [[spoiler:When they turn on him, he doesn't want to fight them, tries not to hurt them, and even laments that he's "alone" to Black Widow after kidnapping her. When Wanda comes in to finish off his main body, he doesn't even care that she intends to kill him (not that it's a big deal for him). He only cares that she's going to die.]]
** It even seems to serve to show just how insane Ultron is, that he can't seem to realize what his actions will cause for them. He doesn't even seem to try reconcile his fondness for them with the fact that [[spoiler:wiping out humanity will also kill them.]]
** They also cared about him as well, likely viewing him as a father figure of sorts. When Ultron's [[spoiler:true plan for humanity]] is revealed, they're horrified, of course, but also deeply, visibly hurt. During his insane rambling, they both tear up at the [[spoiler:revelation of his true character]], and Wanda in particular looks ''devastated''.
*** It also shows that he's just a child, literally days old. He's not incapable of gentle emotions, and if he could have been physically restrained immediately after attaining consciousness might have eventually matured. But being born immensely powerful that was impossible. He's basically a baby smiling at puppies one second and screaming for his bottle the next.
** [[spoiler:Right after the twins sabotage the cradle and make a run for it,]] Ultron's first reaction is to call out to them, then he says:
-->'''Ultron:'' They'll understand. When they see, they'll understand.
* Banner and Natasha discussing the issues with a possible relationship, concentrating on an issue they both have: [[spoiler:neither can have children; Banner because he'll [[HulkingOut hulk out]] and is probably sterile from the radiation, and Natasha because she was sterilized by those who trained her, since getting pregnant would be a distraction or even a cause for conflict of loyalties.]]
* Ultron's [[spoiler: death. This is discussed with the Vision close to the end of the movie, in which it is revealed that Ultron is afraid to die. It is clear that the Vision doesn't see Ultron as totally evil, but more like a rabid dog who has to be put down for the good of the world. Even after all he did, it is still somehow sad to see him go.]]
** It can be seen as much worse than that. [[spoiler: Vision and Ultron are as close to related as robots can be, so Vision is basically being forced to kill his brother, whom he pretty much confirms at his birth is someone he cares about and wants to keep alive. And better yet, Vision wasn't even acting hostile, having a friendly discussion of philosophy with Ultron. Had Ultron gone in compliance to a surrender, Vision almost certainly would have agreed. But Ultron forced his hand, by attacking him at the very last moment, and Vision kills him as the camera cuts. From how hopeless the situation seems, it comes across as Ultron's SuicideByCop.]]
** [[spoiler: Just the defeated tone in Ultron's voice when he tells Vision "They're doomed." during their conversation about humanity. You get the feeling that somewhere deep down, Ultron still wanted to protect humanity. He could've been a hero.]]
* [[spoiler: Wanda confronting and killing Ultron. Ultron worries that Wanda will die, but she retorts that she already did when her brother died.]]
--> '''Ultron:''' [[spoiler: Wanda. If you stay here, you'll die.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[spoiler: I just did. Do you know how it felt? *Rips out Ultron's core with her powers, shutting him down in the process* It felt like that.]]
* Hulk's rampage, when Wanda makes him crazy, and later when he and Iron Man fought. [[FridgeHorror How many people have died there?]] Especially at the end, when Hulk becomes himself again only to see the destruction he unwittingly caused. No wonder that he chose to leave.
** At the end of the fight, Iron Man plows the Hulk down through a half constructed tower, utterly destroying it. The next shot of horrified people running in the streets with the cloud of dust and debris rushing away from the tower is startlingly similar to footage of Manhattan after the World Trade Center towers collapsed, giving a bit of perspective of how the Muggles perceive everything that happens in the MCU.
* Sure the people of Sokovia were saved, but there's little comfort knowing that your entire homeland has been reduced to rubble, not to mention said Sokovians are looking forward to lives as refugees. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' tries to mitigate this by mentioning that there's been a swift international response to help them recover.
* The fact that [[spoiler: JARVIS sacrifices himself to protect the Avengers from a newborn Ultron. Later, the remains of his consciousness are placed into Vision, who bonds instantly with Thor but barely speaks to Tony, as if it would hurt the both of them too much if he did.]]
** Made much worse when you realize just how much [[spoiler: JARVIS]] meant to Tony. [[spoiler: A memento of the family butler, who was likely Tony's father figure growing up. His lab partner, copilot and confidant of twenty odd years. His greatest creation.]] Ultron just essentially killed Stark's last remaining family. When you see Stark looking at [[spoiler: JARVIS' shattered "code"]] he is heartbroken.
** Every time Tony glances at [[spoiler: Vision]], it's with this proud, yet forlorn expression.
* Tony giggling. Someone reached into his head, played on his PTSD and showed him a bad future. He tried to prevent it but it backfired horribly. His teammates are now hounding him for it. This is the sound of a man breaking.
* Fridge example: Tony runs the mission to South Africa without JARVIS. Whatever software is running his suit in that sequence, it's nothing with a personality. [[spoiler:We later find out that he had dozens of backup [=AIs=] to choose from, but he doesn't install FRIDAY until the final battle. Doubtless, he loved JARVIS too much to replace him so quickly. Vision's birth finally enabled him to move on and pick a new companion to reside in the Iron Man suit with him.]]
* A happier version than most examples of this page - while Natasha can't have children because she was sterilised in the Red Room, it's made clear that she's a big part of Clint and Laura's family, and a beloved aunt to their children, with them even naming their third child after her.
* In an extended scene of Bruce and Natasha at the farm, Bruce reveals that guilt over the people he killed as the Hulk is what's really keeping him from being with Natasha because he feels he doesn't deserve to be happy. A disappointed Natasha walks away to take a shower.
-->'''Bruce:''' The water's cold.\\
'''Natasha:''' No shit.
* Among others, the interactions between Thor and Steve after Scarlet Witch showed them the visions. Thor is the first one to leave Clints house and Steve immediately follows him outside, being concerned for him. Later when Steve and Tony are talking, Steve tells Tony to give Thor some time, saying that they "don't know what [Scarlet Witch] showed him". They know [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld what happened to him lately]] and the way they are concerned about him is tear-jerking in a heartwarming way.
* The aftermath of the visions in general. You can tell how broken every single one of the Avengers is.
-->'''Steve:''' "Earth's mightiest heroes". Pulled us apart like cotton candy.
* There's something exceptionally heartbreaking about Ultron lamenting his own existence to Natasha. James Spader's delivery is truly something to behold.
-->'''Ultron:''' I was meant to be new. I was meant to be beautiful.
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