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* Clone!Orm, is understandably left [[CloningBlues devastated]] after accepting the truth. That he was created as an ExpendableClone and all his memories were [[FakeMemories faked]]. Both Orin and M'gann are genuinely sympathetic towards him.

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* Clone!Orm, is understandably left [[CloningBlues [[CloneAngst devastated]] after accepting the truth. That he was created as an ExpendableClone and all his memories were [[FakeMemories faked]]. Both Orin and M'gann are genuinely sympathetic towards him.
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* While Batman revealing that he took Robin in specifically so he ''wouldn't'' turn out like him is certainly sweet, there's notable tragedy in the fact that he is ''very'' well-aware of just [[BrokenAce how]] [[HurtingHero screwed up]] he was, and still ''is'', by the death of his parents all those years ago.

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* While Batman revealing that he took Robin in specifically so he ''wouldn't'' turn out like him is certainly sweet, there's notable tragedy in the fact that he is ''very'' well-aware of just [[BrokenAce how]] [[HurtingHero how screwed up]] he was, and still ''is'', by the death of his parents all those years ago.
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* While Batman revealing that he took Robin in specifically so he ''wouldn't'' turn out like him is certainly sweet, there's notable tragedy in the fact that he is ''very'' well-aware of just [[BrokenAce how]] [[HurtingHero screwed up]] he was, and still ''is'', by the death of his parents all those years ago.
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** The fact the king was killed ''not'' because of his progressive beliefs but because of his hypocrisy: despite preaching there being no difference Green and White Martians, he still believed that Red Martians were superior to both.

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** The fact the king was killed ''not'' because of his progressive beliefs but because of his hypocrisy: despite preaching there being no difference between Green and White Martians, he still believed that Red Martians were superior to both.
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* M'comm all but stating to his mother that he hates her because she is a Ga'ruun, or Green Martian, because of the pain and suffering he endured from the other Ga'ruun growing up.

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* M'comm all but stating to his mother that he hates her because she is a Ga'ruun, G'arrunn, or Green Martian, because of the pain and suffering he endured from the other Ga'ruun G'arrunn growing up.



--> '''M'comm''': Not enough. When only two of twenty-nine children are A'ashin, love is not enough. Our parents failed to teach tolerance and acceptance even in their own home.
--> '''M'gann''': Maybe they... failed, but at least they tried.
--> '''M'comm''': Which is worth what? [[ArmorPiercingQuestion How many of our Ga'ruun siblings plan to attend your wedding?]]
* We learn that M'comm resents his sister M'gann because she left him behind on Mars when things got so bad that she couldn't deal with it anymore. She didn't mean to abandon him, all she could say was because "[[InnocentlyInsensitive she was a child too]]"

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--> '''M'comm''': Not enough. When only two of twenty-nine children are A'ashin, A'ashenn, love is not enough. Our parents failed to teach tolerance and acceptance even in their own home.
--> '''M'gann''': [[ParentsAsPeople Maybe they... failed, but at least they tried. \n]]
--> '''M'comm''': Which is worth what? [[ArmorPiercingQuestion How many of our Ga'ruun G'arrunn siblings plan to attend your wedding?]]
* We learn that M'comm resents his sister M'gann because she left him behind on Mars when things got so bad that she couldn't deal with it anymore. [[InnocentlyInsensitive She didn't mean to abandon him, all him]], she could say was because "[[InnocentlyInsensitive simply hadn't considered how badly her leaving would affect him because, as she puts it, "I was a child too]]"too".



'''M'comm:''' (''voice slightly wavering'') Don’t you think I ''know'' that? But why didn’t you take me with you?! I was a ''child'', and you were my rock! ''[[SuddenlyShouting YOU SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED ME!]]'' (''bitterly'') Instead, you traded me in… for a cute little ''green Beast Boy''.

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'''M'comm:''' (''voice ''(voice slightly wavering'') wavering)'' Don’t you think I ''know'' that? But why didn’t you take me with you?! I was a ''child'', and you were my rock! ''[[SuddenlyShouting YOU SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED ME!]]'' (''bitterly'') ''(bitterly)'' Instead, you traded me in… for a cute little ''green Beast Boy''.''green'' beast boy.



** The fact the king was killed ''not'' because of his progressive beliefs but because of his hypocrisy: despite preaching there being no difference Green and white Martians, he still believed that Red Martians were superior to either.

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** The fact the king was killed ''not'' because of his progressive beliefs but because of his hypocrisy: despite preaching there being no difference Green and white White Martians, he still believed that Red Martians were superior to either.both.



** For a brief moment, the {{Jerkass}} R'ess is able to spin this into an argument to keep the caste system in place that rallies the crowd. Luckily J'emm is able to push back and point out the system is responsible for everything wrong on M'arzz including his father's murder swaying most of the audience to his side.

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** For a brief moment, the {{Jerkass}} R'ess is able to spin this into an argument to keep the caste system in place that rallies the crowd. Luckily J'emm is able to push back and point out the system is responsible for everything wrong on M'arzz including his father's murder murder, swaying most of the audience to his side.



** The stinger shows M'gann crying on the altar where she and Conner were to be married, that they built together with M'gann's famly's help.

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** The stinger shows M'gann crying on the altar where she and Conner were to be married, that they built together with M'gann's famly's family's help.



* Beast Boy has been rather despondent since returning to Earth. He tells his teammates that he's still jet-lagging from the return trip home from Mars. The truth is he still isn't over Conner's death. In his second scene, he comes downstairs at night to watch some TV, he turns on the news showing King Brion's speech of welcoming metahumans. When the news then talks about troubles from Vlatava (his girlfriend Perdita's country), Beast Boy immediately turns off the TV and heads back to bed. In another scene, he's lying on his bed, unable to sleep. He briefly looks at his phone, showing a shrine dedicated to Conner, then faces the ceiling again. In both latter scenes, Beast Boy remained silent.

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* Beast Boy has been rather despondent since returning to Earth. He tells his teammates that he's still jet-lagging from the return trip home from Mars. The truth is he still isn't over Conner's death. In his second scene, he comes downstairs at night to watch some TV, he turns on the news showing King Brion's speech of welcoming metahumans. When the news then talks about troubles from Vlatava (his girlfriend Perdita's country), Beast Boy immediately turns off the TV and heads back to bed. In another scene, he's lying on his bed, unable to sleep. He briefly looks at his phone, showing a shrine dedicated to Conner, then faces the ceiling again. In both latter scenes, Beast Boy remained remains silent.



* As suspected, Joker was involved in Barbara's paralyzation but not in the way everyone [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke expected]]. Orphan was set on killing Joker and was about to deliver the fatal blow. Barbara jumped in between them and took the slash, as she didn't want Cassandra to become a murderer.

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* As suspected, Joker was involved in Barbara's paralyzation paralysis, but not in the way everyone [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke expected]]. Orphan was set on killing Joker and was about to deliver the fatal blow. Barbara jumped in between them and took the slash, as she didn't want Cassandra to become a murderer.



* The Kents and Lois Lane have to explain to Jon Kent that his Uncle Conner is dead, as well as the whole concept of death. By the end of the episode Superman is crying, griefing over the death of his little brother.
* One for Jade as well. It turns out that the reason she cut herself out of her family's lives, and has been engaging in a suicide attack on Sensei and the rest of Infinity Island, is because she felt her daughter would be better off without her in her life, as Jade is afraid she'll do to Lian, what [[AbusiveParents Sportsmaster]] did to her and Artemis.

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* The Kents and Lois Lane have to explain to Jon Kent that his Uncle Conner is dead, as well as the whole concept of death. By the end of the episode Superman is crying, griefing grieving over the death of his little brother.
* One for Jade as well. It turns out that the reason she cut herself out of her family's lives, and has been engaging in a suicide attack on Sensei and the rest of Infinity Island, is because she felt her daughter would be better off without her in her life, as Jade is afraid she'll do to Lian, Lian what [[AbusiveParents Sportsmaster]] did to her and Artemis.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6_B7UZxIxk]] Jason Spisak reads the ending monologue of ''A Midsummer Night's Dream'' as Wally, then adds, "Thanks for everything. [[ItHasBeenAnHonor It was an honor and a pleasure to be your superhero]]."
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* Turns out the Kaizer-thrall is really this universe's version of Danny Chase, who was just an 11-year-old when he had his metagene activated, was trafficked off world, was tortured by Desaad and had his brain put into that machine. Not only that, he's dying and Megan's brother kills him, making Kaizer Thrall attack the heroes. The original Danny Chase was a hated character, but damn the poor kid did nothing to deserve all this.

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* Turns out the Kaizer-thrall is really this universe's version of Danny Chase, who was just an 11-year-old when he had his metagene activated, was trafficked off world, was tortured by Desaad and had his brain put into that machine. Not only that, he's dying and Megan's brother [[spoiler: apparently]] kills him, making Kaizer Thrall attack the heroes. The original Danny Chase was a hated character, but damn the poor kid did nothing to deserve all this.
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!!''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' the Animated Series

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* Beast Boy attends his annual therapy session with Canary, mandatory in order to stay with the Outsiders. While he claims to be improving, he is actually trying to brush past it. Canary appears to see through his deception and gently breaks him down, allowing them both to seek the root of Gar's downward spiral: His guilt in leading his squad and losing more than one ally over his career, and even before that when Queen Bee killed his mother years ago. Canary tells him that none of that was his fault because they were well out of his control, and even superheroes like them face that harsh reality every day. Garfield breaks down crying and finally acknowledges that he needs help in a way that sleep aids and isolation can't fix.
** Even in his attempt to brush past the session, he admits that he was too harsh on Perdita, who was also trying to help him, and is hesitant in contacting her again. It's clear that their relationship is damaged, if not already over.

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** The frantic panic in his voice when he senses Ma'ale'fa'ak's mind attacking his. He's absolutely terrified, screaming "No! Not you!"
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* Turns our Kaizer-thrall is really this universe's version of Danny Chase, who was just an 11 year old when he had his metagene activated, was trafficked off world, was tortured by Desaad and had his brain put into that machine. Not only that, he's dying and Megan's brother kills him, making Kaizer Thrall attack the heroes. The original Danny Chase was a hated character, but damn the poor kid did nothing to deserve all this.

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* Turns our out the Kaizer-thrall is really this universe's version of Danny Chase, who was just an 11 year old 11-year-old when he had his metagene activated, was trafficked off world, was tortured by Desaad and had his brain put into that machine. Not only that, he's dying and Megan's brother kills him, making Kaizer Thrall attack the heroes. The original Danny Chase was a hated character, but damn the poor kid did nothing to deserve all this.
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* Turns our Kaizer-thrall is really this universe's version of Danny Chase, who was just an 11 year old when he had his metagene activated, was trafficked off world, was tortured by Desaad and had his brain put into that machine. Not only that, he's dying and Megan's brother kills him, making Kaizer Thrall attack the heroes. The original Danny Chase was a hated character, but damn the poor kid did nothing to deserve all this.
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* Virgil tells Black Canary about how the Reach [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured him and a bunch of other kids]], [[KilledOffForReal some of which he never saw again]], and [[AdultFear his family has no idea where he is]]. He also requests that he can go home so he can let his family know that he's alright.

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* Virgil tells Black Canary about how the Reach [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured him and a bunch of other kids]], [[KilledOffForReal some of which he never saw again]], and [[AdultFear his family has no idea where he is]].is. He also requests that he can go home so he can let his family know that he's alright.
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* While not given much focus, what with all the political chaos going on at the moment. Orin confronting Orm in his cell, angrily asking his brother if he had first been corrupted by Vandal. Or if Orin had always resented him the moment their mother introduced them to each other. A still angry and bitter Orm never gives him a proper answer.

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* While not given much focus, what with all the political chaos going on at the moment. moment: Orin confronting Orm in his cell, angrily asking his brother if he had first been corrupted by Vandal. Or Vandal, or if Orin he had always resented him the moment their mother introduced them to each other. A still angry and bitter Orm never gives him a proper answer.



---> '''Hallucination Lex Luthor''': [[HeroicBSOD Red Sun.]]
** Clone!Orm, is understandably left [[CloningBlues devastated]] after accepting the truth. That he was created as an ExpendableClone and all his memories were [[FakeMemories faked]]. Both Orm and M'gann are genuinely sympathetic towards him.

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---> --> '''Hallucination Lex Luthor''': [[HeroicBSOD Red Sun.]]
** * Clone!Orm, is understandably left [[CloningBlues devastated]] after accepting the truth. That he was created as an ExpendableClone and all his memories were [[FakeMemories faked]]. Both Orm Orin and M'gann are genuinely sympathetic towards him.
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* As always, Tomar Re dies. He valiantly syphons the promethean's fire breath into space, preventing New Genesis from beign destroyed. A spiteful Lor-Zord burns him with heat vision; unable to maintain both the shield and the syphoning construct, Re choses the latter, being speared by the twin red rays. Hs final thoughts are of Krypton, and how he didn't fail this time.

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* As always, Tomar Re dies. He valiantly syphons siphons the promethean's Promethean's fire breath into space, preventing New Genesis from beign being destroyed. A spiteful Lor-Zord burns him with heat vision; unable to maintain both the shield and the syphoning siphoning construct, Re choses chooses the latter, being speared by the twin red rays. Hs His final thoughts are of Krypton, and how he didn't fail this time.
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* As always, Tomar Re dies. He valiantly syphons the promethean's fire breath into space, preventing New Genesis from beign destroyed. A spiteful Lor-Zord burns him with heat vision; unable to maintain both the shield and the syphoning construct, Re choses the latter, being speared by the twin red rays. Hs final thoughts are of Krypton, and how he didn't fail this time.

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* While not given much focus, what with all the political chaos going on at the moment. Orin confronting Orm in his cell, angrily asking his brother if he had first been corrupted by Vandal. Or if Orin had always resented him the moment their mother introduced them to each other. A still angry and bitter Orm never gives him a proper answer.



* Conner's [[SanitySlippage Mental State]] After waking up from his hallucination that he was Match and he killed Superman. He believes that he failed Ghosty (Phantom Girl) and believes himself to be a [[IAmAMonster monster]]. Only made worse when he spots the bus from the bridge that Klarion had possesed in Zatanna's arc. Seeing that as final proof he's lost his mind a final hallucination appears

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* Conner's [[SanitySlippage Mental State]] After waking up from his hallucination that he was Match and he killed Superman. He believes that he failed Ghosty (Phantom Girl) and believes himself to be a [[IAmAMonster monster]]. Only made worse when he spots the bus from the bridge that Klarion had possesed possessed in Zatanna's arc. Seeing that as final proof he's lost his mind a final hallucination appears




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** Clone!Orm, is understandably left [[CloningBlues devastated]] after accepting the truth. That he was created as an ExpendableClone and all his memories were [[FakeMemories faked]]. Both Orm and M'gann are genuinely sympathetic towards him.

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* [[WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries Razer]] learning that Metron had wanted to test his potential with both the Red and Blue rings. Going so far as to deliberately leave a false trail of clues for Razer to follow. Thus manipulating him so he'd eventually lose the ability to control the latter and return for the former. Razer is understandably outraged at Metron's admission.
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---> '''Hallucination Lex Luthor''' : [[HeroicBSOD Red Sun]]

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---> '''Hallucination Lex Luthor''' : Luthor''': [[HeroicBSOD Red Sun]]
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* Conner's [[SanitySlippage Mental State]] After waking up from his hallucination that he was Match and he killed Superman. He believes that he failed Ghosty (Phantom Girl) and believes himself to be a [[IAmAMonster monster]]. Only made worse when he spots the bus from the bridge that Klarion had possesed in Zatanna's arc. Seeing that as final proof he's lost his mind a final hallucination appears
---> '''Hallucination Lex Luthor''' : [[HeroicBSOD Red Sun]]
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**The scene is gutwrenching, Barbara doesn't even get the chance to try to talk Cassandra down besides a "no," and then she just ''screams.'' Cassandra just sinks to her knees next to her while Bruce gently takes the sword out of her hands while and then Dick just keeps repeating "Oh, God, no" and then telling Babs to hold on.
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'''M'comm:''' (''voice slightly wavering'') Don’t you think I ''know'' that? But why didn’t you take me with you?! I was a ''child'', and you were my rock! ''YOU SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED ME!'' (''bitterly'') Instead, you traded me in… for a cute little ''green Beast Boy''.

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'''M'comm:''' (''voice slightly wavering'') Don’t you think I ''know'' that? But why didn’t you take me with you?! I was a ''child'', and you were my rock! ''YOU ''[[SuddenlyShouting YOU SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED ME!'' ME!]]'' (''bitterly'') Instead, you traded me in… for a cute little ''green Beast Boy''.
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* We learn that M'comm resents his sister Megan because she left him behind on Mars when things got so bad that she couldn't deal with it anymore. She didn't mean to abandon him, all she could say was because "[[InnocentlyInsensitive she was a child too]]"

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* We learn that M'comm resents his sister Megan M'gann because she left him behind on Mars when things got so bad that she couldn't deal with it anymore. She didn't mean to abandon him, all she could say was because "[[InnocentlyInsensitive she was a child too]]"too]]"
** Creator/BenDiskin's performance when M'comm calls out M'gann is just heart-wrenching.
--->'''M'gann:''' I feel like I don’t even know you anymore!\\
'''M'comm:''' Of course you don’t ''know'' me. You ''abandoned'' me. Ran away to Earth.\\
'''M'gann:''' I-I ''had'' to go. I was… ''dying'' here…\\
'''M'comm:''' (''voice slightly wavering'') Don’t you think I ''know'' that? But why didn’t you take me with you?! I was a ''child'', and you were my rock! ''YOU SHOULD HAVE PROTECTED ME!'' (''bitterly'') Instead, you traded me in… for a cute little ''green Beast Boy''.
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** Even harsher is that the way that Wally, Kaldur, Dick and Conner are positioned is a mirror flip of the order they stood when they told the League about how they would be going on missions with or without their permission.
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\n* Even after giving up being Sergeant Marvel, Mary still shows an addiction to power and a lack of restraint with how much of it she uses, even when the power ends up being sapped out of the earth or even her teammates to the point of nearly draining them of all their life force. As a result, Zatanna refuses to allow her to take on the mantle of Doctor Fate along with her, Khalid, and Traci, noting that this behavior along with Nabu’s own personality would create a rather disastrous combo. Taking a personal offense to this, Mary storms off and ends up being manipulated into falling back into her old ways by Granny Goodness.
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\n* TheStinger ends with Zatara breaking down in tears after finally being freed from Nabu following a decade of being trapped as his host. These aren't tears of relief, but exhaustion, as the weight of what he lost and the toil of those ten years finally hits him.

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* Garfield telling Perdita to GetOut despite her attempts to help him recover, too deep in depression to listen.

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* Teekl's death causes Klarion to cry. It's clear that the demonic lord of chaos who's been slaughtering people had affection for his familiar.
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* In the first two episodes, Beast Boy seems to have [[TookALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]]. The credits show why as Beast Boy is listening to Perdita's message on his phone. It seems they're growing distant because both their work is taking a toll in their relationship. Especially Perdita, who has to deal with "all these people fleeing Markovia flooding into Vlatava.". The message ends with her, nearly breaking into tears, wishing her father was alive to handle the situation better, and that Beast Boy was with her. What's more poignant is Beast Boy's tired expression, implying that he listened to before leaving for Mars, and may have played it multiple times when he's alone.

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* In the first two episodes, Beast Boy seems to have [[TookALevelInJerkass taken a level in jerkass]]. The credits show why as Beast Boy is listening to Perdita's message on his phone. It seems they're growing distant because both their work is taking a toll in their relationship. Especially Perdita, who has to deal with "all these people fleeing Markovia flooding into Vlatava.".Vlatava". The message ends with her, nearly breaking into tears, wishing her father was alive to handle the situation better, and that Beast Boy was with her. What's more poignant is Beast Boy's tired expression, implying that he listened to before leaving for Mars, and may have played it multiple times when he's alone.



* Garfield is having PTSD over what happened to Brion, and even drags Conner to the surface during a bad sandstorm out of desperation to help him. If it wasn't for J'emm and the others, they would have been trapped on the surface while Garfield has a PTST-induced nightmare for who knows how long.

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* Garfield is having PTSD over what happened to Brion, and even drags Conner to the surface during a bad sandstorm out of desperation to help him. If it wasn't for J'emm and the others, they would have been trapped on the surface while Garfield has a PTST-induced PTSD-induced nightmare for who knows how long.



* Conner's (apparent) death and right on the day before his ''wedding''. With Wally gone and now him (unless the Legion intervened), we've lost two of the original Team, made worse is that it's implied he may have survived if not for the interference of whomever the Legion has been chasing.

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* Conner's (apparent) death and right on the day before his ''wedding''. With Wally gone and now him (unless the Legion intervened), we've lost two of the original Team, made worse is that it's by it being implied that he may have survived if not for the interference of whomever the Legion has been chasing.
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* As suspected, Joker was involved in Barbara's paralyzation but not in the way everyone [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke expected]]. Orphan was set on killing Joker and was about to deliver the fatal blow. Barbare jumped in between them and took the slash, as she didn't want Cassandra to become a murderer.

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* As suspected, Joker was involved in Barbara's paralyzation but not in the way everyone [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke expected]]. Orphan was set on killing Joker and was about to deliver the fatal blow. Barbare Barbara jumped in between them and took the slash, as she didn't want Cassandra to become a murderer.
-->'''Barbara:''' I wasn’t trying to save Joker. …I was trying to save ''you''.

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