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* The final confrontation isn't anything like a duel or a battle: it's simply Granny Weatherwax explaining to her sister, with barely restrained rage and grief, how her sister got things wrong. She is particularly upset that Lilith had no clue about the harm she did.
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* The final confrontation isn't anything like a duel or a battle: it's simply Granny Weatherwax explaining to her sister, with barely restrained rage and grief, how her sister got things wrong. She is particularly upset that Lilith had no clue about the harm she did.did, not even having fun with it.
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* At the end of the story, Granny states that "good and bad is tricky". This is a fairly humbling concession from someone as stern and judgmental as her, but after her history has been revealed who can blame her?
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* At the end of the story, Granny states that "good and bad is tricky". This is a fairly humbling concession from someone as stern and judgmental as her, but after her history has been revealed who can in this novel you can't really blame her?her.
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** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny
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** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.
** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.
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* The final confrontation isn't anything like a duel or a battle: it's simply Granny Weatherwax explaining to her sister, with barely restrained rage and grief, how her sister got things wrong. She is particularly upset that Lilith had no clue about the harm she did.
** Lilith loses through her own power, illustrating the tragedy of how she lost herself, and not through any move by her sister. She gets sucked into the mirror and has to spend eternity looking for herself so she can escape, something she is unaware of managing.
* Chilling as the idea of Granny Weatherwax as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]
** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny andMarget Magrat find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.
** Lilith loses through her own power, illustrating the tragedy of how she lost herself, and not through any move by her sister. She gets sucked into the mirror and has to spend eternity looking for herself so she can escape, something she is unaware of managing.
* Chilling as the idea of Granny Weatherwax as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]
** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and
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* Magrat inherits a magic wand as part of a FairyGodmother duty, but as the story deconstructs that character trope as seen with Lilith Weatherwax, she has to give up the wand to avoid SlowlySlippingIntoEvil. She ''could'' have done great good with it, but the risk is too great.
** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is that BothSidesHaveAPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is that BothSidesHaveAPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
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* Magrat inherits a magic wand as part of a FairyGodmother duty, but as At the story deconstructs that character trope as seen with Lilith Weatherwax, she has to give up end of the wand to avoid SlowlySlippingIntoEvil. She ''could'' have done great good with it, but the risk is too great.
** Furthermore, Magrat andstory, Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is states that BothSidesHaveAPoint: Magrat simply wants "good and bad is tricky". This is a fairly humbling concession from someone as stern and judgmental as her, but after her history has been revealed who can blame her?
** She adds after that that "maybe what you face matters more than where you stand". This statement reflects how she'd rather do good by being harsh tohelp people, even a little bit or people rather than be helpful, because she just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."can't risk being helpful in case she loses herself like her sister did.
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** She adds after that that "maybe what you face matters more than where you stand". This statement reflects how she'd rather do good by being harsh to
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Or why the old woman, the one in whom anger roiled like pearl barley in a bubbling stew, insisted afterward that [[DueToTheDead it be buried properly instead of skinned and thrown in the bushes]]. She had been very insistent about that.\\
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Or why the old woman, the one in whom [[TranquilFury anger roiled like pearl barley in a bubbling stew, stew]], insisted afterward that [[DueToTheDead it be buried properly instead of skinned and thrown in the bushes]]. She had been very insistent about that.\\
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** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is the BothSidesHaveaPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
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** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is the BothSidesHaveaPoint: that BothSidesHaveAPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
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Or why the old woman, the one in whom anger roiled like pearl barley in a bubbling stew, insisted afterward that [[DueToTheDead it be buried properly instead of skinned and thrown in the bushes.bushes]]. She had been very insistent about that.\\
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"Preeees," it growled. "[[MercyKill Annn enndinggg? Noaaow?]]"\\
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"Preeees," it growled. "[[MercyKill Annn [[MercyKill "Annn enndinggg? Noaaow?]]"\\Noaaow?"]]\\
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"Preeees," it growled. "Annn enndinggg? Noaaow?"\\
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"Preeees," it growled. "Annn "[[MercyKill Annn enndinggg? Noaaow?"\\Noaaow?]]"\\
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* Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.
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* Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years... but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.
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-->"Hah," said Granny. "Yes. Of course. There's always got to be"--she spat the words--"a ''{{happy ending}}''."\\
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-->"Hah," said Granny. "Yes. Of course. There's always got to be"--she be" --she spat the words--"a words-- "a ''{{happy ending}}''."\\
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** The Baron's last scene in the story is him asking Death how much time his daughter has. And Death, being the guy who knows when everyone's time runs out, can only say that Ella won't live forever, but long enough.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress (and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is a witch and knows what is necessary.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress (and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). dress. She even cries a bit, little over the deed, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by a dashing prince- prince - it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is a witch and knows what is necessary.necessary.
** She later keeps a piece of the dress, something even Granny can understand.
* Magrat inherits a magic wand as part of a FairyGodmother duty, but as the story deconstructs that character trope as seen with Lilith Weatherwax, she has to give up the wand to avoid SlowlySlippingIntoEvil. She ''could'' have done great good with it, but the risk is too great.
** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is the BothSidesHaveaPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
** She later keeps a piece of the dress, something even Granny can understand.
* Magrat inherits a magic wand as part of a FairyGodmother duty, but as the story deconstructs that character trope as seen with Lilith Weatherwax, she has to give up the wand to avoid SlowlySlippingIntoEvil. She ''could'' have done great good with it, but the risk is too great.
** Furthermore, Magrat and Granny get into an argument over the use of magic. What's tragic about it is the BothSidesHaveaPoint: Magrat simply wants to help people, even a little bit or just one time, but Granny bitterly points out that "It ''never'' stops at one."
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** There's a tiny little moment when Ella first meets Mrs. Gogol and asks who she is. [[LukeIAmYourFather "I am your...]] [[LastSecondWordSwap friend,]] child." And that's as close as she'll ever be to her daughter.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress (and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is witch and knows what is necessary.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress (and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is a witch and knows what is necessary.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress ( and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is witch and knows what is necessary.
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* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress ( and (and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is witch and knows what is necessary.necessary.
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** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.
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** And yet she still loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.are.
* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress ( and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is witch and knows what is necessary.
* Magrat having to destroy Ella's dress ( and later keeping piece of it, which even Granny understands). She even cries a bit, as she imagines herself wearing it, while being adored by dashing prince- it really tugs at heartstrings, knowing how deeply insecure Magrat is, and how she is aware that almost nobody respects her, much less consider her exceptional. Aside from that, Magrat has always been romantic, with love for pretty and unobtainable things (something she is regularly chided for), so idea of destroying something so beautiful, while fireworks go behind her really hurts. And yet she does it, because she is witch and knows what is necessary.
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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** And yet she still [[spoiler: loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and observe how cut up her arms are.]] *sniff*...
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** And yet she still [[spoiler: loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and what gets this troper is the observation of how cut up her arms are.]] *sniff*...
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** And yet she still [[spoiler: loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and what gets this troper is the observation of observe how cut up her arms are.]] *sniff*...
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* Chilling as the idea of Granny as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]
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* Chilling as the idea of Granny as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]]]
** And yet she still [[spoiler: loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and what gets this troper is the observation of how cut up her arms are.]] *sniff*...
** And yet she still [[spoiler: loves her sister enough to offer her a life in Lancre, and tries to save her after the mirror pulls her in. Nanny and Marget find her unconscious afterwards, and what gets this troper is the observation of how cut up her arms are.]] *sniff*...
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
* Chilling as the idea of Granny as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]
* Chilling as the idea of Granny as a villain is, it's rather tragic to realize that she would have ''preferred'' to be a villain, but resigned herself to a life of being mistrusted, dreaded and exploited by country bumpkins. It explains a lot about her... [[GoodIsNotNice attitude.]]
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Satrurday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Satrurday's Saturday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and saturday Saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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* This troper found the part when Granny tried reaching through the mirror to grab Lilith extremely despairing.despairing.
* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Satrurday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
* [[spoiler: Baron Saturday gets his power, and his revenge. But zombies of the Disc come back to life because they have unfinished business, and Satrurday's reason for coming back was to vanquish Lily. Once that's completed, he knows he'll return to earth. As Mrs. Gogol says, she and saturday had twelve extra years together, and it was a good twelve years...but they could have had more, if it weren't for Lily. And Mrs. Gogol can't even tell Ella that they're related, so she's got no family left. Makes it a bittersweet ending, for her.]]
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