History TearJerker / VorkosiganSaga

18th Oct '16 4:49:06 PM Ciara25
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* The part in ''Barrayar'' when Cordelia nearly dies giving birth to Miles, and Aral admits he hasn't been so scared since he was eleven years old: which was when the [[TheCaligula old Emperor]] murdered his mother and brother in front of him.
* This part in ''Barrayar'', where Aral and Cordelia confront [[spoiler:Vorhalas]], who's just tried to murder them with poison gas:
-->"You missed me, [[spoiler:Evon]]." [[spoiler:Vorhalas]] spat in his face, spittle bloody from his injured mouth. Vorkosigan made no move to wipe it away. "You missed my wife," he went on in a soft slow cadence. "But you got my son. Did you dream of sweet revenge? You have it. Look at her eyes. A man could drown in those sea-grey eyes. I'll be looking at them every day for the rest of my life. So eat vengeance, [[spoiler:Evon]]. Drink it. Fondle it. Wrap it round you in the night watch. It's all yours. I will it all to you. For myself, I've gorged to the gagging point and lost my stomach for it."
* On the next page, [[spoiler:Evon]] is indeed forced to confront Cordelia directly.
--> "It wasn't the result I intended. I meant to kill him. I didn't even know for sure that you shared the same room at night." He was looking everywhere, now, except her face. "I never thought about killing your..."
--> "Look at me," she croaked, "and say the word out loud."
--> "Baby," he whispered, and burst into sudden, shocking sobs.
* Kareen's senseless death, and Cordelia's SanitySlippage afterward, burning the ''castle'' with an arc thrower, thinking that there could be no blaze large enough to be a suitable death offering for the dead princess.
* Really, most of the plot of ''Barrayar'' is potentially tear-jerky. There are so many babies and children in peril. This troper loves the book, but read it for the first time while pregnant with her firstborn son. Not recommended unless you like weeping openly on public transit.
* Admiral Lord Vorkosigan vs. General Count Vorkosigan in ''Barrayar''
--> '''Aral''': My home isn't a place, sir. It's a person. ''({{Beat}})'' People.
** To put that line in context, in an argument over whether or not to keep Aral's crippled (and as yet still unborn) son Miles, Aral is so angry with his father that Cordelia realizes it's the first time she's truly seen him in one of infamous rages, and Piotr is in the process of disowning Aral as much as he can; this is Aral's response to Piotr kicking him out of Vorkosigan House. He states how little a physical residence means to him...and reluctantly admits how much his father still does.
* After an assassination attempt, when Aral and Koudelka are stunned and can't hear very well, Aral reassures the perturbed Kou that it's only temporary. However, logically, the temporary deafness must recall Aral's traumatic childhood injury after his family's massacre. I can't recall now whether it was explicitly discussed in the text, but it was all I could think about.
* The part from ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' where Miles says he wants to make his life "an offering fit to lay at my father's feet":
--> '''Aral''': Clay, boy. Only clay. Not fit to receive so golden a sacrifice.
* The death of [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]] and the final remembering at the end of the book.

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* ** The part in ''Barrayar'' when Cordelia nearly dies giving birth to Miles, and Aral admits he hasn't been so scared since he was eleven years old: which was when the [[TheCaligula old Emperor]] murdered his mother and brother in front of him.
* ** This part in ''Barrayar'', where Aral and Cordelia confront [[spoiler:Vorhalas]], who's just tried to murder them with poison gas:
-->"You ---> "You missed me, [[spoiler:Evon]]." [[spoiler:Vorhalas]] spat in his face, spittle bloody from his injured mouth. Vorkosigan made no move to wipe it away. "You missed my wife," he went on in a soft slow cadence. "But you got my son. Did you dream of sweet revenge? You have it. Look at her eyes. A man could drown in those sea-grey eyes. I'll be looking at them every day for the rest of my life. So eat vengeance, [[spoiler:Evon]]. Drink it. Fondle it. Wrap it round you in the night watch. It's all yours. I will it all to you. For myself, I've gorged to the gagging point and lost my stomach for it."
* ** On the next page, [[spoiler:Evon]] is indeed forced to confront Cordelia directly.
--> ---> "It wasn't the result I intended. I meant to kill him. I didn't even know for sure that you shared the same room at night." He was looking everywhere, now, except her face. "I never thought about killing your..."
--> ---> "Look at me," she croaked, "and say the word out loud."
--> ---> "Baby," he whispered, and burst into sudden, shocking sobs.
* ** Kareen's senseless death, and Cordelia's SanitySlippage afterward, burning the Imperial ''castle'' with an arc thrower, thinking that there could be no blaze large enough to be a suitable death offering for the dead princess.
* ---> ''Burn, you. Burn for Kareen. Pile a death-offering to match her courage and agony, blazing higher and higher—'' As they reached the door of the old Emperor's bedchamber, she fired the hallway in the opposite direction for good measure. ''THAT for what you've done to me, and to my boy—'' the flames should hold back pursuit for a few minutes. She felt as though her body were floating, light as air. ''Is this how Bothari feels, when he kills?''
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Really, most of the plot of ''Barrayar'' is potentially tear-jerky. There are so many babies and children in peril. This troper loves the book, but read it for the first time while pregnant with her firstborn son. Not recommended unless you like weeping openly on public transit.
* Admiral Lord Vorkosigan vs. General Count Vorkosigan in ''Barrayar''
--> '''Aral''': My home isn't a place, sir. It's a person. ''({{Beat}})'' People.
** To put that line in context, in an argument over whether or not to keep Aral's crippled (and as yet still unborn) son Miles, Aral is so angry with his father that Cordelia realizes it's the first time she's truly seen him in one of infamous rages, and Piotr is in the process of disowning Aral as much as he can; this is Aral's response to Piotr kicking him out of Vorkosigan House. He states how little a physical residence means to him...and reluctantly admits how much his father still does.
* After an assassination attempt, when Aral and Koudelka are stunned and can't hear very well, Aral reassures the perturbed Kou that it's only temporary. However, logically, the temporary deafness must recall Aral's traumatic childhood injury after his family's massacre. I can't recall now whether it was explicitly discussed in the text, but it was all I could think about.
* The part from ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' where Miles says he wants to make his life "an offering fit to lay at my father's feet":
--> '''Aral''': Clay, boy. Only clay. Not fit to receive so golden a sacrifice.
* The death of [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]] and the final remembering at the end of the book.
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** Admiral Lord Vorkosigan vs. General Count Vorkosigan in ''Barrayar''
---> '''Aral''': My home isn't a place, sir. It's a person. ''({{Beat}})'' People.
*** To put that line in context, in an argument over whether or not to keep Aral's crippled (and as yet still unborn) son Miles, Aral is so angry with his father that Cordelia realizes it's the first time she's truly seen him in one of infamous rages, and Piotr is in the process of disowning Aral as much as he can; this is Aral's response to Piotr kicking him out of Vorkosigan House. He states how little a physical residence means to him...and reluctantly admits how much his father still does.
** After an assassination attempt, when Aral and Koudelka are stunned and can't hear very well, Aral reassures the perturbed Kou that it's only temporary. However, logically, the temporary deafness must recall Aral's traumatic childhood injury after his family's massacre. I can't recall now whether it was explicitly discussed in the text, but it was all I could think about.
* The part from ''The Warrior's Apprentice'' where Miles says he wants to make his life "an offering fit to lay at my father's feet":
--> '''Aral''': Clay, boy. Only clay. Not fit to receive so golden a sacrifice.
** The death of [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari]] and the final remembering at the end of the book.



** During "The Mountains of Mourning", Miles must preside over an infanticide case in a backwater area of his family's district; the baby was killed for having a hair-lip. Miles is initially annoyed at having this time taken out of his shore-leave, but gets sucker-punched by the enormity of what's happened during the disinterring of the baby girl's corpse. When her mother burns a funeral offering on her grave...
---> Miles, caught short, felt in his pockets. "I have no offering on me that will burn," he said apologetically.\\
Harra glanced up, surprised at even the implied offer. "No matter, m'lord." Her little pile of scraps flared briefly and went out, like her infant Raina's life.\\
''But it does matter,'' thought Miles.\\
''Peace to you, small lady, after our rude invasions. I will give you a better sacrifice, I swear by my word as Vorkosigan. And the smoke of that burning will rise and be seen from one end of these mountains to the other.''
** The murderer in "The Mountains of Mourning" is a thoroughly unpleasant old woman. But while interrogated under [[TruthSerum fast-penta]], she bursts into tears at one point, saying to Miles, "Damn you! What use is your justice to me ''now''? I needed it then ... where were you ''then''?" The implication that back when this nasty harridan was a young mother, she, too, would've been ''overjoyed'' to be told she didn't have to [[spoiler:kill three of her babies]]....



* The murderer in "The Mountains of Mourning" is a thoroughly unpleasant old woman. But while interrogated under [[TruthSerum fast-penta]], she bursts into tears at one point, saying to Miles, "Damn you! What use is your justice to me ''now''? I needed it then ... where were you ''then''?" The implication that back when this nasty harridan was a young mother, she, too, would've been ''overjoyed'' to be told she didn't have to [[spoiler:kill three of her babies]]....
29th May '16 2:23:46 PM AnotherGuy
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** Then there's this subtly sad exchange between Mark and Cordelia, which shows how much she ''really'' gave up coming to Barrayar.
--->“I’ve never heard you analyze yourself, ma’am,” he said sourly. Yes, who shaved the barber?\\
“Me?” She smiled bleakly. “I’m a fool, boy.”\\
She evaded the question. Or did she? “A fool for love?” he said lightly, in an effort to escape the sudden awkwardness his question had created.\\
“And other things.” Her eyes were wintry.
28th Jan '16 6:49:30 PM AnotherGuy
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* Also from ''Captain Vorpatril's Alliance'', Lady ghem Estif’s story about her stepson, who went back into Vorkosigan Vashnoi to find his Barrayaran lover, and ended up being nuked along with his boyfriend and the rest of the province. She must have really loved him, because she asks Ivan to pay them tribute the next time he flies over it.
19th Sep '15 6:03:18 PM Conradus
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** To put that line in context, in an argument over whether or not to keep Aral's crippled (and as yet still unborn) son Miles, Aral is so angry with his father that Cordelia realizes it's the first time she's truly seen him in one of infamous rages, and Piotr is in the process of disowning Aral as much as he can; this is Aral's response to Piotr kicking him out of Vorkosigan House. He states how little a physical residence means to him...and reluctantly admits how much his father still does.
25th Mar '15 3:42:33 PM Anthrax_0
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* Really, most of the plot of Barrayar is potentially tear-jerky. There are so many babies and children in peril. This troper loves the book, but read it for the first time while pregnant with her firstborn son. Not recommended unless you like weeping openly on public transit.

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* Really, most of the plot of Barrayar ''Barrayar'' is potentially tear-jerky. There are so many babies and children in peril. This troper loves the book, but read it for the first time while pregnant with her firstborn son. Not recommended unless you like weeping openly on public transit.
15th Oct '14 9:00:39 PM AnotherGuy
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* Kareen's senseless death, and Cordelia's SanitySlippage afterward, burning the ''castle'', thinking that there could be no blaze large enough to be a suitable DeathOffering for the dead princess.

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* Kareen's senseless death, and Cordelia's SanitySlippage afterward, burning the ''castle'', ''castle'' with an arc thrower, thinking that there could be no blaze large enough to be a suitable DeathOffering death offering for the dead princess.
15th Oct '14 8:58:18 PM AnotherGuy
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* Kareen's senseless death, and Cordelia's SanitySlippage afterward, burning the ''castle'', thinking that there could be no blaze large enough to be a suitable DeathOffering for the dead princess.
26th Sep '14 1:22:45 PM AnotherGuy
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** It is at this point Cordelia realizes she's no longer Betan, but full Barrayaran.

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** It is at this point Cordelia realizes she's no longer Betan, but full Barrayaran.Barrayaran.
* In ''Cetaganda'', Ivan tells a story of how Miles got the two of them buried alive in a tunnel for a few minutes, til Bothari rescued them. Ivan wistfully says that he wishes Bothari were still around to save them. Miles starts to snap then thinks to himself painfully, ''I miss Bothari, too'', and wishes Ivan hadn't made him revisit that wound that hasn't healed (nor has it ever.)
9th Sep '14 11:22:47 AM AnotherGuy
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** She also says it's her last time - and it's ''strongly'' implied that it's because Tej is with Ivan at the time. Party because she sees they're in love with each other, and she wants to tell the story for their benefit, and also because she's hinting that the tradition can be carried on by Ivan if he wants to.
19th Jan '14 9:49:34 AM AnotherGuy
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* In ''Barrayar,'' five-year-old Gregor at his mother's funeral asking Cordelia, "Are they going to kill me, too?" with morbid curiosity.

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* In ''Barrayar,'' five-year-old Gregor at his mother's funeral asking Cordelia, "Are they going to kill me, too?" with morbid curiosity.curiosity.
** It is at this point Cordelia realizes she's no longer Betan, but full Barrayaran.
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