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* Upon further reflection on her father's words, Kiara's very heartbroken that her father and Kovu's mother are fighting a war that ended a long time ago. Upon learning that the Outsiders have invaded, she just couldn't bear the thought of her fellow lions slaughtering each other.

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* Upon further reflection on her father's words, Kiara's Kiara is very heartbroken that her father and Kovu's mother are fighting a war that ended a long time ago. Upon learning that the Outsiders have invaded, she just couldn't bear the thought of her fellow lions slaughtering each other.
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* After Kovu and Kiara escape from the crocodile swamp, Kiara tries to play tag with Kovu who doesn’t respond to as much. When she tries to casually explain the game like it’s the most obvious thing, Kovu merely gives her a confused look, making clear he doesn’t even know what it is. Later on, when meeting back with Vitani, she asks if he wants to fight, which seems to be their way of playing. It’s a subtle showing of how Kovu wasn’t raised to enjoy something as simple and innocent as a game of tag.

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* After Kovu and Kiara escape from the crocodile swamp, Kiara tries to play tag with Kovu Kovu, who doesn’t respond to it as much. When she tries to casually explain the game like it’s the most obvious thing, Kovu merely gives her a confused look, making clear he doesn’t even know what it is. Later on, when meeting back with Vitani, she asks if he wants to fight, which seems to be their way of playing. It’s a subtle showing of how Kovu wasn’t raised to enjoy something as simple and innocent as a game of tag.



** The consequences given to Kovu, who is disowned by his mother and branded with a villainous scar after she strikes him in fury (even she needs to briefly pause from her fury in disbelief following this imagery). Keeping in mind Kovu, despite outshining Nuka and earning his constant jealousy, genuinely cared about his brother, being blamed for his death served was quite a gut punch.

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** The consequences given to Kovu, who is disowned by his mother and branded with a villainous scar after she strikes him in fury (even she needs to briefly pause from her fury in disbelief following this imagery). Keeping in mind Kovu, despite outshining Nuka and earning his constant jealousy, genuinely cared about his brother, being blamed for his death served was as quite a gut punch.



*** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara by exiling Kovu, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen at knowing just how much he had failed and disappointed his father..

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*** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara by exiling Kovu, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had have been if that did happen at knowing just how much he had failed and disappointed his father..



** On top of it Simba is [[DeathGlare glaring]] Kovu on the top of the Pride Rock.

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** On top of it Simba is [[DeathGlare glaring]] at Kovu from on the top of the Pride Rock.



* After all this time, it turns out Simba is ''still'' not completely over his father's death (even though he wasn't responsible for it), and he shuns the Outsiders for their actions, thinking Mufasa would have done the same. Plus, he has a nightmare of not being able to save him in the stampede. Makes you wonder who's the ''real'' [[TheWoobie woobie]] in this.

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* After all this time, it turns out Simba is ''still'' not completely over his father's death (even though he wasn't responsible for it), and he it). He shuns the Outsiders for their actions, thinking Mufasa would have done the same. Plus, he has a nightmare of not being able to save him in the stampede. Makes you wonder who's the ''real'' [[TheWoobie woobie]] in this.



** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[RunningAwayToCry Kiara as she runs crying into the den just kills it]].

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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that this shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[RunningAwayToCry Kiara as she runs crying into the den just kills it]].



* Upon further reflection on her father's words, she's very heartbroken that her father and Kovu's mother are fighting a war that ended a long time ago. Upon learning that the Outsiders have invaded, she just couldn't bear the thought of her fellow lions slaughtering each other.

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* Upon further reflection on her father's words, she's Kiara's very heartbroken that her father and Kovu's mother are fighting a war that ended a long time ago. Upon learning that the Outsiders have invaded, she just couldn't bear the thought of her fellow lions slaughtering each other.



* Kovu struggling with how to tell Kiara about his role in Zira's plot. He's fallen in love with her and is no longer the person he was before in wanting to kill Simba due to his mother's orders. He's clearly sickened over having lied to her, and, let's face it, having to admit to the person you've fallen in love with that you were using them and trying to murder their father to invade their home isn't easy. When he ultimately decides to come clean with Kiara, his last words before he tries to tell her (before Simba interrupts) are, "She'll never believe me. But I gotta try." Kovu clearly knows that if he tells her this, she will likely abandon him out of disgust. But, it's the right thing to do so he must do it.

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* Kovu struggling with how to tell Kiara about his role in Zira's plot. He's fallen in love with her and is no longer the person he was before in wanting to kill Simba due to his mother's orders. He's clearly sickened over having lied to her, and, let's face it, having to admit to the person you've fallen in love with that you were using them and trying to murder their father to invade their home isn't easy. When he ultimately decides to come clean with Kiara, his last words before he tries to tell her (before Simba interrupts) are, are "She'll never believe me. But me, but I gotta try." Kovu clearly knows that if he tells her this, she will likely abandon him out of disgust. But, However, it's the right thing to do do, so he must do it.
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*** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen at knowing just how much he had failed and disappointed his father..

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*** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara, Kiara by exiling Kovu, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen at knowing just how much he had failed and disappointed his father..
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** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen..

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** *** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen..happen at knowing just how much he had failed and disappointed his father..
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** And to make things worse, it was originally planned for Mufasa’s spirit to appear to harshly tell Simba off for his selfishness, as not only had he approved of Kovu, Simba had also driven away Kiara, breaking apart both his family and the Circle of Life. One can only imagine just how horrified and guilt stricken Simba would had been if that did happen..
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** On top of it Simba is [[DeathGlare glaring]] Kovu on the top of the Pride Rock.

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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[RunningAwayToCry
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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[RunningAwayToCry
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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[Running AwaytoCry Kiara as she runs crying into the den just kills it]].

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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[Running AwaytoCry [[RunningAwayToCry
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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at Kiara as she runs crying into the den just kills it.

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** Simba's StunnedSilence when he hears that shows that [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he knows he screwed up big time]]. The equally stunned lionesses simply looking at [[Running AwaytoCry Kiara as she runs crying into the den just kills it.it]].
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* Upon further reflection on her father's words, she's very heartbroken that her father and Kovu's mother are fighting a war that ended a long time ago. Upon learning that the Outsiders have invaded, she just couldn't bear the thought of her fellow lions slaughtering each other.
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* After Kovu and Kiara escape from the crocodile swamp, Kiara tries to play tag with Kovu who doesn’t respond to as much. When she tries to casually explain the game like it’s the most obvious thing, Kovu merely gives her a confused look, making clear he doesn’t even know what it is. Later on, when meeting back with Vitani, she asks if he wants to fight, which seems to be their way of playing. It’s a subtle showing of how Kovu wasn’t raised to enjoy something as simple and innocent as a game of tag.
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-->'''Nuka:''' [[GoOutWithASmile *smiles*]] Well... I [[TheUnfavourite finally got your attention]], didn't I? Didn't I?

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-->'''Nuka:''' --->'''Nuka:''' [[GoOutWithASmile *smiles*]] Well... I [[TheUnfavourite finally got your attention]], didn't I? Didn't I?



--> [[SoProudOfYou "Well done, my son.]] ''[[ArcWords We are one."]]''

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--> ---> [[SoProudOfYou "Well done, my son.]] ''[[ArcWords We are one."]]''



--> "Daddy... I tried."

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--> ---> "Daddy... I tried."
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--->'''Mufasa:''' You have let your family break apart, and in doing so, you have ''broken'' the Circle of Life!

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--->'''Mufasa:''' ---->'''Mufasa:''' You have let your family break apart, and in doing so, you have ''broken'' the Circle of Life!
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*** Then there is the other CallBack to the first movie in the scene, of the famous scene where Simba sees his reflection turn into Mufasa's. Only now it's an [[IronicEcho]] with Kovu's reflection turning into Scar's (the page image).

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*** Then there is the other CallBack to the first movie in the scene, of the famous scene where Simba sees his reflection turn into Mufasa's. Only now it's an [[IronicEcho]] IronicEcho with Kovu's reflection turning into Scar's (the page image).



* Kiara, devastated at Kovu's exile and frustrated with Simba's obstinate attitude, yells, "You will ''never'' be Mufasa!"

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* Kiara, devastated at Kovu's exile and frustrated with Simba's obstinate attitude, yells, "You will ''never'' "[[PretenderDiss You will]] ''[[PretenderDiss never]]'' [[PretenderDiss be Mufasa!"Mufasa!"]].
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*** Then there is the other CallBack to the first movie in the scene, of the famous scene where Simba sees his reflection turn into Mufasa's. Only now it's an [[IronicEcho]] with Kovu's reflection turning into Scar's (the page image).
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** After exiling Kovu, Simba says that he must follow his father's pawprints. But the kicker is that it was ''Mufasa's'' idea to unite Kovu and Kiara. The ''same guy'' that Simba thought would've banished Kovu had he been alive. And so in basically cruel and saddening irony, in an attempt to follow the perceived example of Mufasa, Simba ended up going against his own father's wishes and never even realized it.

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** After exiling Kovu, Simba says that he must follow his father's pawprints. But the kicker is that it was ''Mufasa's'' idea to unite Kovu and Kiara. The ''same guy'' that Simba thought would've banished Kovu had he been alive. And so in basically cruel and saddening irony, in an attempt to follow the perceived example of Mufasa, Simba ended up going against his own father's wishes and never even realized it.it until it was too late.
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** After exiling Kovu, Simba says that he must follow his father's pawprints. But the kicker is that it was ''Mufasa's'' idea to unite Kovu and Kiara. The ''same guy'' that Simba thought would've banished Kovu had he been alive. And so in basically cruel and saddening irony, in an attempt to follow the perceived example of Mufasa, Simba ended up going against his own father's wishes and never even realized it.

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** Even though the cut scene of her was incredibly dark and sad in its own way, the way Zira goes out in the official ending is this in a way if you look carefully. Even after Kiara gets swiped at in an attempt to help her, likely trying to at least take Kiara down with her, Zira is still shown mercy by Kiara who states that she wants to help her. As Zira struggles to get back up, you can see the fear in her eyes before she plummets to her doom and a slight gasp after Kiaras offer, implying that she actually finally believes her. Unfortunately, by that point it's too late. In this regard, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Zira may have died knowing that she made a horrible mistake and regretted it.]]

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** It also doesn't help that while trying to pull Zira up, Kiara outright ''pleads'' "Zira, come on; let me help you..." She desperately wanted to give everyone a happy ending but failed.
** Even though the cut scene of her was incredibly dark and sad in its own way, the way Zira goes out in the official ending is this in a way if you look carefully. Even after Kiara gets swiped at in an attempt to help her, likely trying to at least take Kiara down with her, Zira is still shown mercy by Kiara who states that she wants to help her. As Zira struggles to get back up, you can see the fear in her eyes before she plummets to her doom and a slight gasp after Kiaras Kiara's offer, implying that she actually finally believes her. Unfortunately, by that point it's too late. In this regard, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Zira may have died knowing that she made a horrible mistake and regretted it.]]
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* Even though the cut scene of her was incredibly dark and sad in its own way, the way Zira goes out in the official ending is this in a way if you look carefully. Even after Kiara gets swiped in an attempt to help her, likely trying to at least take Kiara down with her, Zira is still shown mercy by Kiara who states that she wants to help her. As Zira struggles to get back up, you can see the fear in her eyes before she plummets to her doom and a slight gasp after Kiaras offer, implying that she actually finally believes her. Unfortunately, by that point it's too late. In this regard, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Zira may have died knowing that she made a horrible mistake and regretted it.]]

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* ** Even though the cut scene of her was incredibly dark and sad in its own way, the way Zira goes out in the official ending is this in a way if you look carefully. Even after Kiara gets swiped at in an attempt to help her, likely trying to at least take Kiara down with her, Zira is still shown mercy by Kiara who states that she wants to help her. As Zira struggles to get back up, you can see the fear in her eyes before she plummets to her doom and a slight gasp after Kiaras offer, implying that she actually finally believes her. Unfortunately, by that point it's too late. In this regard, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Zira may have died knowing that she made a horrible mistake and regretted it.]]
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* Even though the cut scene of her was incredibly dark and sad in its own way, the way Zira goes out in the official ending is this in a way if you look carefully. Even after Kiara gets swiped in an attempt to help her, likely trying to at least take Kiara down with her, Zira is still shown mercy by Kiara who states that she wants to help her. As Zira struggles to get back up, you can see the fear in her eyes before she plummets to her doom and a slight gasp after Kiaras offer, implying that she actually finally believes her. Unfortunately, by that point it's too late. In this regard, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Zira may have died knowing that she made a horrible mistake and regretted it.]]
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*** The whole sequence would have been one ''hell'' of a lot worse if they kept in [[WhatTheHellHero this deleted line]] from Mufasa's spirit, as seen in [[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyohyz the making-of featurette.]]

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*** The whole sequence would have been one ''hell'' of a lot worse if they kept in [[WhatTheHellHero this deleted line]] line from Mufasa's spirit, spirit as he scolds Simba for what he had done]], as seen in [[https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyohyz the making-of featurette.]]
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* Kovu struggling with how to tell Kiara about his role in Zira's plot. He's fallen in love with her and is no longer the person he was before in wanting to kill Simba due to his mother's orders. He's clearly sickened over having lied to her, and, let's face it, having to admit to the person you've fallen in love with that you were using them and trying to murder their father to invade their home isn't easy. When he ultimately decides to come clean with Kiara, his last words before he tries to tell her (before Simba interrupts) are, "She'll never believe me. But I gotta try." Kovu clearly knows that if he tells her this, she will likely abandon him out of disgust. But, it's the right thing to do so he must do it.

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* Kovu struggling with how to tell Kiara about his role in Zira's plot. He's fallen in love with her and is no longer the person he was before in wanting to kill Simba due to his mother's orders. He's clearly sickened over having lied to her, and, let's face it, having to admit to the person you've fallen in love with that you were using them and trying to murder their father to invade their home isn't easy. When he ultimately decides to come clean with Kiara, his last words before he tries to tell her (before Simba interrupts) are, "She'll never believe me. But I gotta try." Kovu clearly knows that if he tells her this, she will likely abandon him out of disgust. But, it's the right thing to do so he must do it.it.

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