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* "Still Hurting" is the ultimate breakup song.

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* "Still Hurting" is the ultimate breakup song. The following line in particular is heart-shattering, especially since many productions have Cathy finally break down in tears during or just before it.
-->''Give me a day, Jamie,''\\
''bring back the lies.''\\
''Hang them back on the wall.''\\
''Maybe I'd see''\\
''how you could be''\\
''so certain that we''\\
''had no chance''\\
''at all''.

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--->'''Cathy:''' And the point is, Jamie,/that you can't spend a single day that's not about/you and you and nothing but you,/"Mahvelous" novelist, you!/Isn't he wonderful? Just twenty-eight!/The savior of writing!/You, and you, and nothing but you!/Miles and piles of you!/Pushing through windows and bursting through walls/En route to the sky!/And I...

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--->'''Cathy:''' And the point is, Jamie,/that Jamie,\\
that
you can't spend a single day that's not about/you about\\
you
and you and nothing but you,/"Mahvelous" you,\\
"Mahvelous"
novelist, you!/Isn't you!\\
Isn't
he wonderful? Just twenty-eight!/The twenty-eight!\\
The
savior of writing!/You, writing!\\
You,
and you, and nothing but you!/Miles you!\\
Miles
and piles of you!/Pushing you!\\
Pushing
through windows and bursting through walls/En walls\\
En
route to the sky!/And sky!\\
And
I...



* She mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*

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* She mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' "heartfelt" (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*

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* Also, there's a line that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice--during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place…
* "See I'm Smiling" and the way Cathy tries ''so'' hard to be what Jamie wants and not rock the boat. Followed by her epic breakdown when she just unloads everything that's wrong with their relationship.
-->'''Cathy:''' I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall… and see I'm crying… and not do anything at all.
* Then, during her penultimate song to Jamie, "I Can Do Better Than That" (which is chronologically taking place at the very beginning of their relationship, but is at the end of the show, after the previous "you and you and nothing but you"), she sings the following:

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* Also, there's "Still Hurting" is the ultimate breakup song.
* "Goodbye Until Tomorrow/I Could Never Rescue You". Even though you already know everything that has happened at this point, the juxtaposition of Cathy's excitement and Jamie's miserable resignation is just HEARTBREAKING.
* There's
a line in "The Next Ten Minutes" that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice--during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate.separate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place…
* "Nobody Needs to Know". It's the regret Jamie feels, and the DarkReprise of "I could be in love with someone like you". Damn Norbert Leo Butz and the break in his voice as he does the line ''"All right, everyone bleeds! All right, I get what I need!"''.
* "See I'm Smiling" and the Smiling":
** The
way Cathy tries ''so'' hard to be what Jamie wants and not rock the boat. Followed by her epic breakdown when she just unloads everything that's wrong with their relationship.
-->'''Cathy:''' --->'''Cathy:''' I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall… and see I'm crying… and not do anything at all.
** Terrible, terrible FridgeBrilliance: in the middle of her rant to Jaime, Cathy sings the following:
--->'''Cathy:''' And the point is, Jamie,/that you can't spend a single day that's not about/you and you and nothing but you,/"Mahvelous" novelist, you!/Isn't he wonderful? Just twenty-eight!/The savior of writing!/You, and you, and nothing but you!/Miles and piles of you!/Pushing through windows and bursting through walls/En route to the sky!/And I...
** From the movie version, especially if you've ever been cheated on or betrayed by a former significant other.
--->'''Jamie:''' Cathy, you're being crazy!\\
'''Cathy:''' ''[visibly in tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!
* Then, during During her penultimate song to Jamie, "I Can Do Better Than That" (which is chronologically taking place at the very beginning of their relationship, but is at the end of the show, after the previous "you and you and nothing but you"), she sings the following:



* She also mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*

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* She also mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*



** I always found "A Part of That" perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.
* Not a verbal one, but a musical one: Once you've heard "I Could Never Rescue You", you can never revisit the show the same way again. Hearing that wistful, bittersweet waltz melody is bad enough at the beginning of the show once you know what it portends, but then hearing it again at the end of "The Next Ten Minutes" is an absolute ''gut punch'' when you know that this is the theme of Jamie giving up on the marriage for good.
* From the movie, this part of "See, I'm Smiling" can hit especially hard, especially if you've ever been cheated on or betrayed by a former significant other.
-->'''Jamie:''' Cathy, you're being crazy!\\
'''Cathy:''' ''[visibly in tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!

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** I always found * "A Part of That" is perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.
* Not a verbal one, but a musical one: Once you've heard "I Could Never Rescue You", you can never revisit the show the same way again. Hearing that wistful, bittersweet waltz melody is bad enough at the beginning of the show once you know what it portends, but then hearing it again at the end of "The Next Ten Minutes" is an absolute ''gut punch'' when you know that this is the theme of Jamie giving up on the marriage for good.
* From the movie, this part of "See, I'm Smiling" can hit especially hard, especially if you've ever been cheated on or betrayed by a former significant other.
-->'''Jamie:''' Cathy, you're being crazy!\\
'''Cathy:''' ''[visibly in tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!
good.



* Rewatching the show/movie proves just how little they actually understood each other in the end. Cathy's first song has the line "Jamie's convinced that the problems are mine/Jamie is probably feeling just fine/And I'm still hurting". During I Could Never Rescue You, Jamie on the other hand confesses: "I'm not the only one who's hurting here/I don't know what the hell is left to do", proving that he actually is in pain as well and that he would like to deal with the problems, but doesn't know how other than to break up.

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* Rewatching the show/movie proves just how little they actually understood each other in the end. Cathy's first song has the line "Jamie's convinced that the problems are mine/Jamie is probably feeling just fine/And I'm still hurting". During I "I Could Never Rescue You, You", Jamie on the other hand confesses: "I'm not the only one who's hurting here/I don't know what the hell is left to do", proving that he actually is in pain as well and that he would like to deal with the problems, but doesn't know how other than to break up.up.
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* In the movie, at the end of her first song Cathy takes off both her wedding ring and also a bracelet and watch. This makes when the bracelet and watch reappear (as gifts from Jamie) a sort of retroactive Tear Jerker.

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* In the movie, at the end of her first song Cathy takes off both her wedding ring and also a bracelet and watch. This makes when the bracelet and watch reappear (as gifts from Jamie) a sort of retroactive Tear Jerker.Jerker.
* Rewatching the show/movie proves just how little they actually understood each other in the end. Cathy's first song has the line "Jamie's convinced that the problems are mine/Jamie is probably feeling just fine/And I'm still hurting". During I Could Never Rescue You, Jamie on the other hand confesses: "I'm not the only one who's hurting here/I don't know what the hell is left to do", proving that he actually is in pain as well and that he would like to deal with the problems, but doesn't know how other than to break up.
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* "A Summer in Ohio" is an upbeat song where Cathy says how much she hates working in Summer Stock in Ohio, but how she's also happy to be doing it believing her life is finally moving forward and this is just a stepping stone to future success ("No, it's not nirvana but it's on the way!"). The song becomes a lot more depressing when you realize years later she's still doing the same thing.

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* "A Summer in Ohio" is an upbeat song where Cathy says how much she hates working in Summer Stock in Ohio, but how she's also happy to be doing it believing her life is finally moving forward and this is just a stepping stone to future success ("No, it's not nirvana but it's on the way!"). The song becomes a lot more depressing when you realize years later she's still doing the same thing.thing.
* In the movie, at the end of her first song Cathy takes off both her wedding ring and also a bracelet and watch. This makes when the bracelet and watch reappear (as gifts from Jamie) a sort of retroactive Tear Jerker.
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'''Cathy:''' ''[visibly in tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!

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'''Cathy:''' ''[visibly in tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!''NOT''!
* "A Summer in Ohio" is an upbeat song where Cathy says how much she hates working in Summer Stock in Ohio, but how she's also happy to be doing it believing her life is finally moving forward and this is just a stepping stone to future success ("No, it's not nirvana but it's on the way!"). The song becomes a lot more depressing when you realize years later she's still doing the same thing.

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* Also, there's a line that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice - during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place...

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* Also, there's a line that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice - during twice--during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place...place…



--> Cathy: "I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall... and see I'm crying... and not do anything at all."

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--> Cathy: "I -->'''Cathy:''' I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall... tall… and see I'm crying... crying… and not do anything at all."



---> Cathy: "I want you and you and nothing but you/Miles and piles of you/Finally I'll have something worthwhile/To think about each morning/You and you and nothing but you/No substitution will do/Nothing but fresh, undiluted and pure/Top of the line and totally mine!"

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---> Cathy: "I --->'''Cathy:''' I want you and you and nothing but you/Miles you\\
Miles
and piles of you/Finally you\\
Finally
I'll have something worthwhile/To worthwhile\\
To
think about each morning/You morning\\
You
and you and nothing but you/No you\\
No
substitution will do/Nothing do\\
Nothing
but fresh, undiluted and pure/Top pure\\
Top
of the line and totally mine!"mine!



* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!), because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.
** I always found 'A Part of That' perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.

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* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess ("Shiksa Goddess" and A "A Part Of That!), That!"), because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.
** I always found 'A "A Part of That' That" perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.



'''Cathy:''' ''(visibly in tears)'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!

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'''Cathy:''' ''(visibly ''[visibly in tears)'' tears]'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!
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* Not a verbal one, but a musical one: Once you've heard "I Could Never Rescue You", you can never revisit the show the same way again. Hearing that wistful, bittersweet waltz melody is bad enough at the beginning of the show once you know what it portends, but then hearing it again at the end of "The Next Ten Minutes" is an absolute ''gut punch'' when you know that this is the theme of Jamie giving up on the marriage for good.

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* Not a verbal one, but a musical one: Once you've heard "I Could Never Rescue You", you can never revisit the show the same way again. Hearing that wistful, bittersweet waltz melody is bad enough at the beginning of the show once you know what it portends, but then hearing it again at the end of "The Next Ten Minutes" is an absolute ''gut punch'' when you know that this is the theme of Jamie giving up on the marriage for good.good.
* From the movie, this part of "See, I'm Smiling" can hit especially hard, especially if you've ever been cheated on or betrayed by a former significant other.
-->'''Jamie:''' Cathy, you're being crazy!\\
'''Cathy:''' ''(visibly in tears)'' No, I'm not, NO, I'M ''NOT''!

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* "Still Hurting", probably the ultimate breakup song. This troper heard it for the first time at a theatre festival with her best friend, who had just had a nasty breakup. It could not have described what he was going through more perfectly or more poignantly.
* This troper always cries when she listens to Goodbye Until Tomorrow/I Could Never Rescue You. Even though you already know everything that has happened at this point, the juxtaposition of Cathy's excitement and Jamie's miserable resignation is just HEARTBREAKING. It doesn't help that it reminds this troper of her very first relationship.
* Also, there's a line that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice - during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place... :(
* This troper thinks she's probably a horrible person, but she cries during "Nobody Needs to Know". It's the regret Jamie feels, and the DarkReprise of "I could be in love with someone like you". Damn Norbert Leo Butz and the break in his voice as he does the line ''"All right, everyone bleeds! All right, I get what I need!"''.

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* "Still Hurting", probably the ultimate breakup song. This troper heard it for the first time at a theatre festival with her best friend, who had just had a nasty breakup. It could not have described what he was going through more perfectly or more poignantly.
* This troper always cries when she listens to Goodbye Until Tomorrow/I Could Never Rescue You. Even though you already know everything that has happened at this point, the juxtaposition of Cathy's excitement and Jamie's miserable resignation is just HEARTBREAKING. It doesn't help that it reminds this troper of her very first relationship.
* Also, there's a line that, once the FridgeBrilliance kicks in, is almost just as heartbreaking. During the wedding song, Cathy and Jamie sing about being together "Till there's no one left / Who has ever known us apart". During the show, because of the way the two timelines work, they are only actually together onstage twice - during their wedding and at the ending of the show when their timelines finally seperate. And that reflects how they were never emotionally together in the first place... :(\n* This troper thinks she's probably a horrible person, but she cries during "Nobody Needs to Know". It's the regret Jamie feels, and the DarkReprise of "I could be in love with someone like you". Damn Norbert Leo Butz and the break in his voice as he does the line ''"All right, everyone bleeds! All right, I get what I need!"''.



* Another heart-shattering instance of (a doubled layering of) terrible, terrible FridgeBrilliance causing a Tear Jerker is more subtle, and actually took a few tearful listen-throughs before this troper required an extra tissue - in "See I'm Smiling", in the middle of her rant to Jaime, Cathy sings the following:
---> Cathy: "And the point is, Jamie,/that you can't spend a single day that's not about/you and you and nothing but you,/"Mahvelous" novelist, you!/Isn't he wonderful? Just twenty-eight!/The savior of writing!/You, and you, and nothing but you!/Miles and piles of you!/Pushing through windows and bursting through walls/En route to the sky!/And I..."

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--> Cathy: "I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall... and see I'm crying... and not do anything at all."



* "I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall... and see I'm crying... and not do anything at all."

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* Not a verbal one, but a musical one: Once you've heard "I swear to God, I'll never understand, how Could Never Rescue You", you can just stand there straight and tall... and see I'm crying... and not do anything never revisit the show the same way again. Hearing that wistful, bittersweet waltz melody is bad enough at all."the beginning of the show once you know what it portends, but then hearing it again at the end of "The Next Ten Minutes" is an absolute ''gut punch'' when you know that this is the theme of Jamie giving up on the marriage for good.
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** I always found 'A Part of That' perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.

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** I always found 'A Part of That' perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.other.
* "I swear to God, I'll never understand, how you can just stand there straight and tall... and see I'm crying... and not do anything at all."
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* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!), because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.

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* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!), because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.crumble.
** I always found 'A Part of That' perfectly fine until the last bit of the song. Something about the way Sherie Rene Scott sings, "I'm a part of that, aren't I?" seems to bring up a lot of self-doubt, which is then confirmed when we realise just how emotionally distant Jamie and Cathy are from each other.
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* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!, because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.

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* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!, That!), because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.
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* She also mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*

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* She also mentions how disappointed she was that her last boyfriend left her with nothing but a "heartfelt letter". The fact that Cathy's pure, unadulterated love for Jamie has been so twisted by the end of their relationship and that she sees none of it coming is heartbreaking enough, but what's worse is that Jamie's final song, "I Could Never Rescue You", is him writing a 'heartfelt' (whether this is true is debatable) letter to inform Cathy that he is leaving her after 5 years of being together. Poor, poor Cathy. * sob*sob*
* Every single time Jamie and Cathy express how happy they are in their relationship (Hi there, Shiksa Goddess and A Part Of That!, because you know from the ''first fucking line in the show'' that it's all gonna crumble.

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