History TearJerker / TheBible

25th Feb '16 9:59:05 AM Ninja857142
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-->-- ''[[Literature/TheBible John 11:35 (ESV)]]''

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-->-- ''[[Literature/TheBible John ''John 11:35 (ESV)]]''
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24th Feb '16 10:56:57 PM Ninja857142
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->''Jesus wept.''
-->-- ''[[Literature/TheBible John 11:35 (ESV)]]''
24th Feb '16 10:43:02 PM Ninja857142
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[[caption-width-right:244: He died for our sins.]]

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[[caption-width-right:244: He died for ''Surely he has borne our sins.]]
griefs\\
and carried our sorrows;\\
yet we esteemed him stricken,\\
smitten by God, and afflicted.'']]
16th Oct '15 12:00:40 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** Orthodox Christianity states that the corruption of first people is THE MoralEventHorizon for Satan and his demons. The Holy Tradition states that after that, there's no redemption, as though he was already corrupted by his pride, he still had his chance. After that, no.
14th May '15 5:07:08 AM LordGro
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* Somewhere in Judges (forget the reference), Jephthah, one of pre-kingdom Israel's [[TitleDrop judges]] (not the judicial kind - they were more like generals) made a rash vow (which are later warned against in the New Testament) that, if God helped him to win a particular battle and return home safely, he would sacrifice the first thing that came out to greet him when he returned. Israel [[CurbStompBattle beat their enemies handily.]] When Jephthah returned home, his daughter (a virgin, and given the customs of that time when girls were married off fairly young, probably only a teenager) was there to greet him.
** If he carried it out word for word as he vowed he did something wrong and unnecessary. Among all those laws and regulations in the Law section of the Old Testament is a way out of his predicament. A substitute sacrifice got you out of vows you failed to fulfill for one one reason or another.

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* Somewhere in Judges (forget In the reference), Jephthah, one of pre-kingdom Israel's [[TitleDrop judges]] (not the judicial kind - they were more like generals) Literature/BookOfJudges, chapter 11, Jephthah made a rash vow (which are later warned against in the New Testament) that, if God helped him to win a particular battle and return home safely, he would sacrifice the first thing that came out to greet him when he returned. Israel [[CurbStompBattle beat their enemies handily.]] handily. When Jephthah returned home, his daughter (a virgin, and given the customs of that time when girls were married off fairly young, probably only a teenager) was there to greet him.
** If he carried it out word for word as he vowed he did something wrong and unnecessary. Among all those laws and regulations in the Law section of the Old Testament is a way out of his predicament. A substitute sacrifice got you out of vows you failed to fulfill for one one reason or another.
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14th Apr '15 11:39:52 AM TinMan
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* Job. Here's a guy who had it all: wealth, land, good health, a nice family, and total faith in God. Then he gets designated as a CosmicPlaything (as part of a bet between Satan and God, the former saying that Job would curse God if he lost his material possessions) and [[TraumaCongaLine he proceeds to lose everything on one really bad day]]. Worse, his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" come along and tell him that since good people aren't punished, he brought the whole thing upon himself. In the end he gets everything back (and then some), but it's hard not to feel for the guy.

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* Job. Here's a guy who had it all: wealth, land, good health, a nice family, and total faith in God. Then he gets designated as a CosmicPlaything (as part of a bet between Satan and God, the former saying that Job would curse God if he lost his material possessions) and [[TraumaCongaLine he proceeds to lose everything on one really bad day]]. Worse, his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" come along and tell him that since good people aren't punished, he brought the whole thing upon himself. In the end he gets everything back (and then some), but it's hard not to feel for the guy.guy.
* Judas Iscariot committing suicide after having a literal MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment. It's even worse for those who believe in predestination since that would mean Judas ''was specifically chosen to betray the Son of God''.
27th Jan '15 9:07:31 PM zoop
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***** Basically (as I understand it), Jesus was suffering everything that humans suffered... including feeling that God has abandoned us. We all feel that way sometimes, Jesus wanted us to know that feeling that way is normal... and that God ''hasn't'' abandoned us at those times.
14th Jan '15 3:36:45 PM Quanyails
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** If he carried it out word for word as he vowed he did something wrong and unnecessary. Among all those laws and regulations in the Law section of the Old Testament is a way out of his predicament. I can't remember the exact details, but a substitute sacrifice got you out of vows you failed to fulfill for one one reason or another.

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** If he carried it out word for word as he vowed he did something wrong and unnecessary. Among all those laws and regulations in the Law section of the Old Testament is a way out of his predicament. I can't remember the exact details, but a A substitute sacrifice got you out of vows you failed to fulfill for one one reason or another.
14th Jan '15 3:35:18 PM Quanyails
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**** Or both. He WAS forsaken by God like the troper above describes, and Psalm 22 was a prophecy of His passion (after all, it includes the verse "they pierced my hands and feet") that ended in victory. And in that time, to remind people of a Scripture, Rabbis quoted the first verse/words only, so people could KNOW what was happening thanks to those words.
*** I thought denying God when you know he exists makes you a NayTheist? Besides isn't that Jesus simply being in sorrow over being cut off from a relationship with the Father that he had always had? It would be like if your own human Father suddenly abandoned you and you asked him why he forsake you.

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**** Or both. He WAS forsaken by God like the troper above describes, God, and Psalm 22 was a prophecy of His passion (after all, it includes the verse "they pierced my hands and feet") that ended in victory. And in that time, to remind people of a Scripture, Rabbis quoted the first verse/words only, so people could KNOW what was happening thanks to those words.
*** I thought denying God when you know he exists makes you a NayTheist? Besides isn't that Jesus simply being in sorrow over being cut off from a relationship with the Father that he had always had? It would be like if your own human Father suddenly abandoned you and you asked him why he forsake you.
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4th Dec '14 4:52:06 PM iowaforever
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* In a way, God's perspective on the Ten Plagues of Egypt. This is a god who picked one people to serve as His example to the world, but who still loves everyone, and wants to make them right in spite of their evils. In order to teach His just commandments, He has to establish the fact that He is the one and only god to listen to. To do this, He subjects an entire civilization to ten consecutive plagues, from turning their river to blood to killing their firstborn, hardening the reigning pharaoh's heart to ensure that he can get through all of them and demonstrate to everyone on Earth what a bad idea it is to mess with God. And it doesn't even stick with one generation of God's own chosen people, who lose their spot in the Holy Land because of it. That IDidWhatIHadToDo / GoodIsNotNice moment, followed by it not sinking in would be torture on a regular human, much less a god who is well aware of the suffering of every good and evil person on Earth, and who still loves them despite of what they do.

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* In a way, God's perspective on the Ten Plagues of Egypt. This is a god who picked one people to serve as His example to the world, but who still loves everyone, and wants to make them right in spite of their evils. In order to teach His just commandments, He has to establish the fact that He is the one and only god to listen to. To do this, He subjects an entire civilization to ten consecutive plagues, from turning their river to blood to killing their firstborn, hardening the reigning pharaoh's heart to ensure that he can get through all of them and demonstrate to everyone on Earth what a bad idea it is to mess with God. And it doesn't even stick with one generation of God's own chosen people, who lose their spot in the Holy Land because of it. That IDidWhatIHadToDo / GoodIsNotNice moment, followed by it not sinking in would be torture on a regular human, much less a god who is well aware of the suffering of every good and evil person on Earth, and who still loves them despite of what they do.do.
*Job. Here's a guy who had it all: wealth, land, good health, a nice family, and total faith in God. Then he gets designated as a CosmicPlaything (as part of a bet between Satan and God, the former saying that Job would curse God if he lost his material possessions) and [[TraumaCongaLine he proceeds to lose everything on one really bad day]]. Worse, his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" come along and tell him that since good people aren't punished, he brought the whole thing upon himself. In the end he gets everything back (and then some), but it's hard not to feel for the guy.
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