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* Kasumi at first, seemed like a totally blessed person living a charmed life. Unfortunately, she is anything ''but''. In fact, this is arguably one of the most tragic backstories, or depending on your view, '''the most''' tragic backstory possible in any of the Phantom Thieves, if not, one of the most tragic of any character in '''ALL''' of the Persona games. To say that the rest of the Thieves outright ''pale'' in front of the circumstances surrounding her would not be an overstatement. She had a twin sister, whom she promised to go to the gymnastic internationals with together. Key word here being ''[[PosthumousSibling had]]''. Her sister died only recently, having been killed in a car accident '''a month''' before Joker arrived at Leblanc. Yet, if this would be it, so would this entry go to a full stop; to say that this is scraping the surface would be an ''understatement''. The dead sister actually isn't her twin sister, that's ''Kasumi'' herself, and her twin sister, Sumire ''is'' "Kasumi", or more accurately, ''thought that she's Kasumi''. Sumire only "became Kasumi" thanks to Maruki subconsciously unleashing his powers to make her think that she's Kasumi, and this can relapse at any time, which Maruki does admit. The reason why this happened is also nothing short of SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome gone ''horribly wrong''; even Makoto and Sae's conflict is ''nothing'' compared to this, because at least the Nijima sisters slowly but gradually see eye to eye with each other once their respective issues have been ironed out. Unfortunately, the Yoshizawa twins don't have the same opportunity as them. Sumire was on good terms with Kasumi, but had grown envious of her due to her unrivaled talent, and Sumire almost accidentally threw herself into traffic without looking while running away from her; she was only alive because Kasumi took her place in becoming roadkill. She did indeed steal Kasumi's dream by that sacrifice, which eventually twists even further into literally wanting to become her... all to avoid facing the fact that her twin sister died for her and to gain some sense of confidence.

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* Kasumi Kasumi, at first, seemed like a totally blessed person living a charmed life. Unfortunately, she is anything ''but''. In fact, this is arguably one of the most tragic backstories, or depending on your view, '''the most''' tragic backstory possible in any of the Phantom Thieves, if not, not one of the most tragic of any character in '''ALL''' of the Persona games. To say that the rest of the Thieves outright ''pale'' in front of the circumstances surrounding her would not be an overstatement. She had a twin sister, whom she promised to go to the gymnastic internationals with together. Key word here being ''[[PosthumousSibling had]]''. Her sister died only recently, having been killed in a car accident '''a month''' before Joker arrived at Leblanc. Yet, if this would be it, so would this entry go to a full stop; to say that this is scraping the surface would be an ''understatement''. The dead sister actually isn't her twin sister, that's ''Kasumi'' herself, and her twin sister, Sumire ''is'' "Kasumi", or more accurately, ''thought that she's Kasumi''. Sumire only "became Kasumi" thanks to Maruki subconsciously unleashing his powers to make her think that she's Kasumi, and this can relapse at any time, which Maruki does admit. The reason why this happened is also nothing short of SuccessfulSiblingSyndrome gone ''horribly wrong''; even Makoto and Sae's conflict is ''nothing'' compared to this, because at least the Nijima sisters slowly but gradually see eye to eye with each other once their respective issues have been ironed out. Unfortunately, the Yoshizawa twins don't have the same opportunity as them. Sumire was on good terms with Kasumi, but had grown envious of her due to her unrivaled talent, and Sumire almost accidentally threw herself into traffic without looking while running away from her; she was only alive because Kasumi took her place in becoming roadkill. She did indeed steal Kasumi's dream by that sacrifice, which eventually twists even further into literally wanting to become her... all to avoid facing the fact that her twin sister died for her and to gain some sense of confidence.



** When Sumire was "Kasumi," it appears that people never treated her as Kasumi to begin with, they just treat her as if she CameBackWrong; or bluntly put, they think of her as an ''insane'' person. It's just lucky that the Kasumi filter allows her to be unaffected by this somehow. Small wonder she snaps so hard when the cognitive overlay wears off, enough to pull a FaceHeelTurn, desperately not wanting to go back to her good-for-nothing self. Whether Maruki was the distorted "savior" he is now or not, it's only a matter of time once the cognitive manipulation wears off around her, and she will most likely do [[DrivenToSuicide what she wanted to do all along]] for real.

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** When Sumire was "Kasumi," "Kasumi", it appears that people never treated her as Kasumi to begin with, they just treat her as if she CameBackWrong; or bluntly put, they think of her as an ''insane'' person. It's just lucky that the Kasumi filter allows her to be unaffected by this somehow. Small wonder she snaps so hard when the cognitive overlay wears off, enough to pull a FaceHeelTurn, desperately not wanting to go back to her good-for-nothing self. Whether Maruki was the distorted "savior" he is now or not, it's only a matter of time once the cognitive manipulation wears off around her, and she will most likely do [[DrivenToSuicide what she wanted to do all along]] for real.



*** There's also an unused portrait of Sumire hurt that is probably supposed to be used in the same scene as the one above and boy... [[https://i.imgur.com/C2elV6k.png it's heartbreaking]]. [[note]]When Sumire is in counselling with Maruki (Which is the only normal cutscene where she's been seen wearing this jersey), she never uses this "hurt" portrait.[[/note]]
** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (surprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''actually'' CameBackWrong...and it ''shows''.

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*** There's also an unused portrait of Sumire hurt that is probably supposed to be used in the same scene as the one above and boy... [[https://i.imgur.com/C2elV6k.png it's heartbreaking]]. [[note]]When Sumire is in counselling with Maruki (Which (which is the only normal cutscene where she's been seen wearing this jersey), she never uses this "hurt" portrait.[[/note]]
** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (surprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''actually'' CameBackWrong... and it ''shows''.
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* In ''Royal'' the Will Seed chambers make noises about the Palace Ruler's distortions. This naturally includes Futaba's and good god, listen closely and the stuff she echoes are just ''heartbreaking''. These are almost all scenes of her having ''hallucinations'' about her mother.
-->'''Futaba''': "Mom...*sob*...I'm so sorry...I shouldn't be here...I...I'm so sorry...Help me...!...Wh..why? No...I don't wanna hear it! This wouldn't have happened if I hadn't existed...It's all my fault...I'm such a bad person...Just stop...It's so dark...I'm so scared..."
* The modified Wakaba Sphinx boss fight will present you a choice if you agree with the sphinx about Futaba not deserving to be born or not. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential If you do agree]], Futaba will become depressed and it will take triple the time as usual for her to restore the ballista. (It takes three turns for her to do it if you disagree with the Sphinx; should you agree, [[VideoGameCrueltyPunishment it takes nine turns]].)

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* In ''Royal'' the Will Seed chambers make noises about the Palace Ruler's distortions. This naturally includes Futaba's and good god, listen closely and the stuff she echoes are is just ''heartbreaking''. These are almost all scenes of her having ''hallucinations'' about her mother.
-->'''Futaba''': "Mom...*sob*... *sob*... I'm so sorry...sorry... I shouldn't be here...I...here... I... I'm so sorry...sorry... Help me...!...Wh..! ... Wh... why? No...No... I don't wanna hear it! This wouldn't have happened if I hadn't existed...existed... It's all my fault...fault... I'm such a bad person...person... Just stop...stop... It's so dark...I'm so scared..."
* The modified Wakaba Sphinx boss fight will present you a choice if you agree with the sphinx about Futaba not deserving to be born or not. [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential If you do agree]], Futaba will become depressed and it will take triple the time as usual for her to restore the ballista. (It takes three turns for her to do it if you disagree with the Sphinx; should you agree, [[VideoGameCrueltyPunishment it takes nine turns]].)
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*** When investigating Futaba, Makoto was terrified by how dark Sojiro's house is and she latches onto the protagonist's legs, afraid. When Futaba comes out she was instantly just as frightened as Makoto because she and the protagonist was standing next to her and she flees into her room instantly. While in-game you only see Futaba running into her room instantly after she pops up behind Makoto, in the anime Futaba and Makoto ''freak out and scream loudly'' at each other. While obviously PlayedForLaughs, it's actually a lot more horrible when you consider that was Futaba's agoraphobia acting up ''on screen''.

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*** When investigating Futaba, Makoto was terrified by how dark Sojiro's house is and she latches onto the protagonist's legs, afraid. When Futaba comes out she was instantly just as frightened as Makoto because she and the protagonist was were standing next to her and she flees into her room instantly. While in-game you only see Futaba running into her room instantly after she pops up behind Makoto, in the anime Futaba and Makoto ''freak out and scream loudly'' at each other. While obviously PlayedForLaughs, it's actually a lot more horrible when you consider that was Futaba's agoraphobia acting up ''on screen''.
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* Tokyo in this game can be seen as [[CrapsackWorld very oppressive]] where the people in power [[CorruptPolitician are corrupt]], many ordinary individuals [[ApatheticCitizens ignore the problems]] around them and may even support this kind of action. Anyone that try to do anything about it are met with criticism by the general public either due to the [[ItCantBeHelped futility of the attempt]] or because they would shake up the status quo too much. If they're unlucky enough, they may even be met with an arrest or worse.

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* Tokyo in this game can be seen as [[CrapsackWorld very oppressive]] where the people in power [[CorruptPolitician are corrupt]], many ordinary individuals [[ApatheticCitizens ignore the problems]] around them and may even support this kind of action. Anyone that try tries to do anything about it are is met with criticism by the general public either due to the [[ItCantBeHelped futility of the attempt]] or because they would shake up the status quo too much. If they're unlucky enough, they may even be met with an arrest or worse.
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->''...That's right... [[SurvivorGuilt I killed Mom]]. I don't deserve to be alive... This place is a tomb... I'll die here... No...! Someone help me...''

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->''... That's right... [[SurvivorGuilt I killed Mom]]. I don't deserve to be alive... This place is a tomb... I'll die here... No...! Someone help me...''

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* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted one of the country's most beloved politicians". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.

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* The sheer level of ostracism [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer ostracism]] and seething ''contempt'' ''[[HatedByAll contempt]]'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that "[[HeroWithBadPublicity that punk who assaulted one of the country's most beloved politicians".politicians]]". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.



** Even worse is that this disdain from the other students never actually lets up, at all. Months after you start school, you can hear people whispering in the halls about how dangerous they think you are, and even around November time your classmates are ''still'' surprised when you answer any questions correctly. Studying in the library can also increase Guts purely due to how much courage it takes the protagonist to focus on his studying while everyone else in the library takes the time to loudly talk shit about you, knowing that you can hear what they're saying. This is despite the protagonist appearing to be an ordinary, hard-working, and generally harmless student once the Kamoshida incident is over. The rumors and scorn never go away; the only way to really deal with it is to simply get used to it.
** It's also worth noting how much the protagonist in this game contrasts with the ones in the previous two games. The previous two player characters could get involved in clubs and make several friends at school who weren't part of the party, generally having a fulfilling school life on top of their extracurricular heroics. The P5 MC not only doesn't get involved in any clubs, but also only has one friend at Shujin besides the Phantom Thieves and Mishima (who operates the Phan-Site)- and the protagonist can only befriend Kawakami after inadvertently learning her secret.

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** Even worse is that this disdain from the other students never actually lets up, at all. Months after you start school, you can hear people whispering in the halls about how dangerous they think you are, and even around November time your classmates are ''still'' surprised when you answer any questions correctly. Studying in the library prior to Kamoshida's confession can also increase Guts purely due to how much courage it takes the protagonist to focus on his studying while everyone else in the library takes the time to loudly talk shit about you, knowing that you can hear what they're saying. This is despite the protagonist appearing to be an ordinary, hard-working, and generally harmless student once the Kamoshida incident is over. The rumors and scorn never go away; the only way to really deal with it is to simply get used to it.
** It's also worth noting how much the protagonist in this game contrasts with the ones in the previous two games. The previous two player characters could get involved in clubs and make several friends at school who weren't part of the party, generally having a fulfilling school life on top of their extracurricular heroics. The P5 MC not only doesn't get involved in any clubs, but also [[OnlyFriend only has one friend friend]] at Shujin besides the Phantom Thieves and Mishima (who operates the Phan-Site)- and the protagonist can only befriend Kawakami after inadvertently learning her secret.



* Tokyo in this game can be seen as very oppressive where the people in power are corrupt, many ordinary individuals ignore the problems around them and may even support this kind of action. Anyone that try to do anything about it are met with criticism by the general public either due to the futility of the attempt or because they would shake up the status quo too much. If they're unlucky enough, they may even be met with an arrest or worse.

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* Tokyo in this game can be seen as [[CrapsackWorld very oppressive oppressive]] where the people in power [[CorruptPolitician are corrupt, corrupt]], many ordinary individuals [[ApatheticCitizens ignore the problems problems]] around them and may even support this kind of action. Anyone that try to do anything about it are met with criticism by the general public either due to the [[ItCantBeHelped futility of the attempt attempt]] or because they would shake up the status quo too much. If they're unlucky enough, they may even be met with an arrest or worse.



** Picture this: You're an average kid in your hometown walking back home early in the evening. Everything is fine, until you hear two people screaming at each other; one of them sounds particularly distressed. You run to see what's going on, and find a drunken man attempting to force himself on a woman and make her get in his car. [[GoodSamaritan You step in between them and push the man away from her]], maybe a little too forcefully, and he cuts his forehead. The next thing you know, the police are on the scene and the woman you protected is telling them that you attacked the man for no reason. And just like that, [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished you're expelled from your school, taken to court, and sentenced to a year of probation]], [[DisproportionateRetribution all because you pissed off the most corrupt politician in the country]]. These are the protagonist's circumstances and the ones that kick-start ''the entire plot of the game''.
*** One more ''very important'' detail that isn't disclosed until the endgame: all of this was orchestrated by an evil "God" to pull you under his service to dismantle said politician, who he himself set up to become a godlike figure as a ''mockery'' against humanity. After you demolish him, he plans to take you down by making the public think that you don't exist, all to prove that HumansAreFlawed and he is the only God fit to rule over them. In other words, ''your life was ruined because some evil "God" wanted someone he could use to mock humanity with, and he just happened to choose you.''

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** Picture this: You're an average kid in your hometown walking back home early in the evening. Everything is fine, until you hear two people screaming at each other; one of them sounds particularly distressed. You run to see what's going on, and find a drunken man attempting to force himself on a woman and make her get in his car. [[GoodSamaritan You step in between them and push the man away from her]], maybe a little too forcefully, and he cuts his forehead. The next thing you know, the police are on the scene and and [[TheFarmerAndTheViper the woman you protected protected]] is telling them that you attacked the man for no reason. unprovoked.[[labelnote:*]] What's worse is that the man turned out to [[{{Blackmail}} have some dirt]] on the woman; the bitch [[UngratefulBastard sold you out]] to [[ItsAllAboutMe save her own skin]].[[/labelnote]] And just like that, [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished you're expelled from your school, taken to court, and sentenced to a year of probation]], [[DisproportionateRetribution all because you pissed off the most corrupt politician in the country]]. These are the protagonist's circumstances and the ones that kick-start [[DownerBeginning kick-start]] ''the entire plot of the game''.
*** Things don't improve after you get enrolled at Shujin, either; your world-weary homeroom teacher openly considers you to be a burden, your criminal record somehow got leaked before you can even attend your first class, and rumors are spreading like wildfire. All of a sudden, you are Public Enemy #1, and seemingly everyone not named Ryuji Sakamoto would love nothing more than to see you expelled and sent to juvenile hall or prison. Even without that business with Kamoshida's Palace and the Metaverse, it's a highly demoralizing start to a tenure at your new school.
*** One more ''very important'' detail that isn't disclosed until the endgame: all of this was orchestrated by an evil "God" to pull you under his service to dismantle said politician, who he himself set up to become a godlike figure as a ''mockery'' against humanity. After you demolish him, he plans to take you down by making the public think that you don't exist, all to prove that HumansAreFlawed and he is the only God fit to rule over them. In other words, ''your life was ruined [[CosmicPlaything because some evil "God" "God"]] wanted someone he could use to mock humanity with, and he just happened to choose you.[[BornUnlucky you]].''



-->'''Joker:''' Give them one reason to distrust you, and it's all over. That's how it is, especially with adults.

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-->'''Joker:''' Give them one reason to distrust you, and [[EasilyCondemned it's all over.over]]. That's how it is, especially with adults.
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* The true ending of Vanilla has been given this alongside some real FridgeHorror aspects considering Sumire's situation. Since Maruki's Actualization wears off after some time, over time Sumire would had been relapsed, go insane and commit suicide or render herself catatonic for real, especially when you aren't there to bring her back to her senses.

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* The true ending of Vanilla has been given this alongside some real FridgeHorror aspects considering Sumire's situation. Since Maruki's Actualization wears off after some time, over time Sumire would had been relapsed, relapse, and quite possibly go insane and commit suicide or render herself catatonic for real, especially when you aren't there to bring her back to her senses.
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* Picture yourself as Sumire's father. You are a talk show host with a fully functional family with a pair of daughters who was significantly more blessed in family life than any other Phantom Thief out there. Even better, your elder daughter was a nearly perfect person who won gymnast competition after another and was about to go to Shujin, get a scholarship, and go to internationals with the younger one. However, because of her, your younger daughter had something ''very wrong'' in her mind, enough to get her absentmindedly throwing herself into traffic because of her InnocentlyInsensitive remarks and what seems to be CondescendingCompassion (but isn't), and she only survived because your elder daughter took her place to be instantly killed by the traffic. Not only that, your remaining daughter was now so screwed up to the point that you have to bring her to a therapist, who proceeds to change her cognition because she somehow reminded him of his [[TheLostLenore lost ex-fiance]]; not that he knowingly did it, anyway. The next thing is your remaining daughter started thinking as if she were her elder sister who died in her place and the therapist probably told you that he made a mistake and your daughter may relapse over time; it's only a matter of when. All the while she enrolls to Shujin, still treating herself as if she was her deceased elder sister. The school still gave her a scholarship, with all of the stress that comes with it, disregarding her very real issues that the school knows about. Months later, all of Shujin's students think of her as a delusional girl who got special treatment under virtue that she was delusional while they have to suffer under Kamoshida's tyranny. To put the nail in the coffin, the same therapist whom she met before went to Shujin and was desperately trying to cover everything up when the school was revoking her special treatment to prevent a '''train wreck''' in the making. The poor man has no idea what is going on and probably would have had to see his remaining daughter slip back into depression had she not met Joker.

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* Picture yourself as Sumire's father. You are a talk show host with a fully functional family with a pair of daughters who was significantly more blessed in family life than any other Phantom Thief out there. Even better, your elder daughter was a nearly perfect person the very definition of TheAce who won one gymnast competition after another and was about to go to Shujin, get a scholarship, and go to internationals with the younger one. However, because of her, your younger daughter had something ''very wrong'' in her mind, enough to get her absentmindedly throwing herself into traffic because of her InnocentlyInsensitive remarks and what seems to be CondescendingCompassion (but isn't), and she only survived because your elder daughter took her place to be instantly killed by the traffic. Not only that, your remaining daughter was now so screwed up to the point that you have to bring her to a therapist, who proceeds to change her cognition because she somehow reminded him of his [[TheLostLenore lost ex-fiance]]; not that he knowingly did it, anyway. The next thing is your remaining daughter started thinking as if she were her elder sister who died in her place and the therapist probably told you that he made a mistake and your daughter may relapse over time; it's only a matter of when. All the while she enrolls to Shujin, still treating herself as if she was her deceased elder sister. The school still gave her a scholarship, with all of the stress that comes with it, disregarding her very real issues that the school knows about. Months later, all of Shujin's students think of her as a delusional girl who got special treatment under virtue that she was delusional while they have to suffer under Kamoshida's tyranny. To put the nail in the coffin, the same therapist whom she met before went to Shujin and was desperately trying to cover everything up when the school was revoking her special treatment to prevent a '''train wreck''' in the making. The poor man has no idea what is going on and probably would have had to see his remaining daughter slip back into depression had she not met Joker.
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** Just ''what'' kind of person was Sumire actually? You ''will'' be surprised. She is actually a ShrinkingViolet that has absolutely no self-confidence or any self-esteem/ego, in addition to being deep in suicidal depression, which is only made worse when Kasumi died. In short, she's not mentally stable in any way, shape, or form, having been suffering from a combination of jealousy, delusional thoughts and suicidal depression. It's also quite sobering how her self-esteem is below subterranean levels; enough to think that either she will be Kasumi in order to be great, or ''die'' even before her actions led to Kasumi's death. Kasumi helping her for most of her life unwittingly engineered everything up to that point, because she couldn't read how Sumire actually felt.

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** Just ''what'' kind of person was Sumire actually? You ''will'' be surprised. She is actually a ShrinkingViolet that has absolutely no self-confidence or any self-esteem/ego, in addition to being deep in suicidal depression, which is only made worse when Kasumi died. In short, she's not mentally stable in any way, shape, or form, having been suffering from a combination of jealousy, delusional thoughts and suicidal depression. It's also quite sobering how her self-esteem is below subterranean levels; enough to think that either Kasumi's talent renders her a completely worthless human being, to the point that she will be Kasumi in order to be great, or ''die'' didn't value her own life even before her actions led to Kasumi's death. Kasumi helping her for most of her life unwittingly engineered everything up to that point, because she couldn't read how Sumire actually felt.

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* The first week of January is one unbroken string of PlayerPunch tear jerkers. A quick recap: Joker is the only member of the Thieves who realizes that reality has changed. He has to spend an entire week tracking down all of his friends -- the people ''you'' have put hours of work into supporting, comforting, and growing with -- and telling each of them, one by one, that their happiness is fake. Joker has to tell Futaba, Makoto, and Haru that their happy family lives are lies, Yusuke that his sensei betrayed him, Ryuji that he quit the track team in disgrace, Ann that her best friend attempted suicide and moved away, and Morgana that he's not really human. And he has to do it alone, without even Morgana to help this time. His only ally is Akechi, and only because Akechi is already such a bitter shell of a man that he automatically assumes any good thing that happens to him is fake.
** In each case, the character portraits are just expressive enough for you to see the light drain from their eyes. By the third or fourth, you're likely to be wondering whether to just let Maruki win. And you have to do ''all seven.''



* The first week of January is one unbroken string of PlayerPunch tear jerkers. A quick recap: Joker is the only member of the Thieves who realizes that reality has changed. He has to spend an entire week tracking down all of his friends -- the people YOU have put hours of work into supporting, comforting, and growing with -- and telling each of them, one by one, that their happiness is fake. Joker has to tell Futaba, Makoto, and Haru that their happy family lives are lies, Yusuke that his sensei betrayed him, Ryuji that he quit the track team in disgrace, Ann that her best friend attempted suicide and moved away, and Morgana that he's not really human. And he has to do it alone, without even Morgana to help this time. His only ally is Akechi, and only because Akechi is already such a bitter shell of a man that he automatically assumes any good thing that happens to him is fake.
** In each case, the character portraits are just expressive enough for you to see the light drain from their eyes. By the third or fourth, you're likely to be wondering whether to just let Maruki win. And you have to do ''all seven.''
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* The first week of January is one unbroken string of PlayerPunch tear jerkers. A quick recap: Joker is the only member of the Thieves who realizes that reality has changed. He has to spend an entire week tracking down all of his friends -- the people YOU have put hours of work into supporting, comforting, and growing with -- and telling each of them, one by one, that their happiness is fake. Joker has to tell Futaba, Makoto, and Haru that their happy family lives are lies, Yusuke that his sensei betrayed him, Ryuji that he quit the track team in disgrace, Ann that her best friend attempted suicide and moved away, and Morgana that he's not really human. And he has to do it alone, without even Morgana to help this time. His only ally is Akechi, and only because Akechi is already such a bitter shell of a man that he automatically assumes any good thing that happens to him is fake.
** In each case, the character portraits are just expressive enough for you to see the light drain from their eyes. By the third or fourth, you're likely to be wondering whether to just let Maruki win. And you have to do ''all seven.''
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** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (suprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''actually'' CameBackWrong...and it ''shows''.

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** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (suprisingly, (surprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''actually'' CameBackWrong...and it ''shows''.



* Picture youself as Sumire's father. You are a talk show host with a fully functional family with a pair of daughters who was significantly more blessed in family life than any other Phantom Thief out there. Even better, your elder daughter was a nearly perfect person who won gymnast competition after another and was about to go to Shujin, get a scholarship, and go to internationals with the younger one. However, because of her, your younger daughter had something ''very wrong'' in her mind, enough to get her absentmindedly throwing herself into traffic because of her InnocentlyInsensitive remarks and what seems to be CondescendingCompassion (but isn't), and she only survived because your elder daughter took her place to be instantly killed by the traffic. Not only that, your remaining daughter was now so screwed up to the point that you have to bring her to a therapist, who proceeds to change her cognition because she somehow reminded him of his [[TheLostLenore lost ex-fiance]]; not that he knowingly did it, anyway. The next thing is your remaining daughter started thinking as if she were her elder sister who died in her place and the therapist probably told you that he made a mistake and your daughter may relapse over time; it's only a matter of when. All the while she enrolls to Shujin, still treating herself as if she was her deceased elder sister. The school still gave her a scholarship, with all of the stress that comes with it, disregarding her very real issues that the school knows about. Months later, all of Shujin's students think of her as a delusional girl who got special treatment under virtue that she was delusional while they have to suffer under Kamoshida's tyranny. To put the nail in the coffin, the same therapist whom she met before went to Shujin and was desparately trying to cover everything up when the school was revoking her special treatment to prevent a '''train wreck''' in the making. The poor man has no idea what is going on and probably would have had to see his remaining daughter slip back into depression had she not met Joker.

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* Picture youself yourself as Sumire's father. You are a talk show host with a fully functional family with a pair of daughters who was significantly more blessed in family life than any other Phantom Thief out there. Even better, your elder daughter was a nearly perfect person who won gymnast competition after another and was about to go to Shujin, get a scholarship, and go to internationals with the younger one. However, because of her, your younger daughter had something ''very wrong'' in her mind, enough to get her absentmindedly throwing herself into traffic because of her InnocentlyInsensitive remarks and what seems to be CondescendingCompassion (but isn't), and she only survived because your elder daughter took her place to be instantly killed by the traffic. Not only that, your remaining daughter was now so screwed up to the point that you have to bring her to a therapist, who proceeds to change her cognition because she somehow reminded him of his [[TheLostLenore lost ex-fiance]]; not that he knowingly did it, anyway. The next thing is your remaining daughter started thinking as if she were her elder sister who died in her place and the therapist probably told you that he made a mistake and your daughter may relapse over time; it's only a matter of when. All the while she enrolls to Shujin, still treating herself as if she was her deceased elder sister. The school still gave her a scholarship, with all of the stress that comes with it, disregarding her very real issues that the school knows about. Months later, all of Shujin's students think of her as a delusional girl who got special treatment under virtue that she was delusional while they have to suffer under Kamoshida's tyranny. To put the nail in the coffin, the same therapist whom she met before went to Shujin and was desparately desperately trying to cover everything up when the school was revoking her special treatment to prevent a '''train wreck''' in the making. The poor man has no idea what is going on and probably would have had to see his remaining daughter slip back into depression had she not met Joker.



* When Lavenza explains Maruki, she tells the party that he didn't have much control over his Persona's powers before Yaldabaoth unwittingly drove him insane. He was only able to use it subconsciously on Rumi and Sumire. What do those two have in common? They lost their beloved caretakers to what can sum up as merely tragic instances. This implies that when he changed Sumire's cognition, he was being ''triggered'' by being remindered of how Rumi's parents got tragically murdered during that day and ended up having something very wrong with her mind much like Sumire. He didn't want to see Sumire ended up rendering herself catatonic like Rumi deep down and thus the unthinkable happened.

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* When Lavenza explains Maruki, she tells the party that he didn't have much control over his Persona's powers before Yaldabaoth unwittingly drove him insane. He was only able to use it subconsciously on Rumi and Sumire. What do those two have in common? They lost their beloved caretakers to what can sum up as merely tragic instances. This implies that when he changed Sumire's cognition, he was being ''triggered'' by being remindered reminded of how Rumi's parents got tragically murdered during that day and ended up having something very wrong with her mind much like Sumire. He didn't want to see Sumire ended up rendering herself catatonic like Rumi deep down and thus the unthinkable happened.
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*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech she got from Akechi and Sae as well as the Phantom Thieves berating her is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.

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*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech she got from Akechi and Sae as well as the Phantom Thieves berating her for being "useless" is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.
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*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech she got from Sae (and later, Ann) is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.

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*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech she got from Akechi and Sae (and later, Ann) as well as the Phantom Thieves berating her is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.

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*** Sae's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, along with being berated by the Phantom Thieves for being "useless" (to be fair though, [[JerkassHasAPoint they're right]] -- she can't do anything Metaverse-related at that point), is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.

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*** Sae's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, along with being berated by the Phantom Thieves for being "useless" (to be fair though, [[JerkassHasAPoint they're right]] -- TheReasonYouSuckSpeech she can't do anything Metaverse-related at that point), got from Sae (and later, Ann) is what spurs her to make the decision to tail Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, ''anyone'', that she has value as a person.


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*** And then Ann gave her the same speech Sae told her last night. Of course, the Phantom Thieves [[JerkassHasAPoint rightfully pointed out]] that she can't do anything Metaverse-related at that time but it's still an emotional low blow for her.
---->'''Ann''': So you’re here to check up on us? You may be the student council president, but when it comes to what we do, you’re ''useless''.
---->'''Yusuke''': To be frank, yes.
---->'''Ann''': Just stay on your high horse and watch. Or do you wanna eavesdrop, since you’re so good at it?
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*** When investigating Futaba, Makoto was terrified by how dark Sojiro's house is and she latches onto the protagonist's legs, afraid. When Futaba comes out she was instantly just as frightened as Makoto because she and the protagonist was standing next to her and she flees into her room instantly. While in-game you only see Futaba running into her room instantly after she pops up behind Makoto, in the anime Futaba and Makoto ''freak out and scream loudly'' on each other. While obviously PlayedForLaughs, it's actually a lot more horrible when you consider that was Futaba's agoraphobia acting up ''on screen''.

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*** When investigating Futaba, Makoto was terrified by how dark Sojiro's house is and she latches onto the protagonist's legs, afraid. When Futaba comes out she was instantly just as frightened as Makoto because she and the protagonist was standing next to her and she flees into her room instantly. While in-game you only see Futaba running into her room instantly after she pops up behind Makoto, in the anime Futaba and Makoto ''freak out and scream loudly'' on at each other. While obviously PlayedForLaughs, it's actually a lot more horrible when you consider that was Futaba's agoraphobia acting up ''on screen''.

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* Yusuke mentions that he's basically an outcast at his own school. While the situation by itself is enough of a TearJerker to start with, it gets even worse once you remember from a meta standpoint that Hifumi, who attends the same high school, was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen supposed to have been one of the Phantom Thieves.]] So along with losing another party member, Yusuke himself lost someone to keep him company at school.

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* Yusuke mentions that he's basically an outcast at his own school. While the situation by itself is enough of a TearJerker to start with, it gets even worse once you remember from a meta standpoint that Hifumi, who attends the same high school, was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen supposed to have been one of the Phantom Thieves.]] So along with losing another party member, Yusuke himself lost someone to keep him company at school.



*** On a meta-level, Joker's [[WhatTheHellPlayer subtle anger]] is justified in the most painful ways possible. In the new reality, none of the brainwashed Phantom Thieves experienced any of the traumas that led to them bonding with Joker, making them superficial at best while he's forced to be burdened with the truth that no one else remembers. Maruki, and by extension the player, granted Joker his wish of staying with his friends forever in the worst way possible by removing everything that allowed those bonds to be built. Little wonder he's so [[HeroicBSOD emotionless and depressed throughout the ending]].
*** When thinking about this ending, one realizes that in one fell swoop, Joker allowed everything his two predecessors fought for to be invalidated. Makoto Yuki proved that life is worth living if one can withstand the struggles it brings. Yu Narukami proved that accepting harsh truths is necessary to grow as a person. But in Maruki's world, no one is really living, because they've been given the salvation that Nyx would've brought. And no one is growing, because they've fogged up their troubles like Izanami wanted to. Everyone's dying to live a lie, and there's no longer a Velvet Room to save them...
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* Akechi's final days with the Phantom Thieves are a series of heartbreaks. Akechi and Maruki reveal that if Maruki's LotusEaterMachine is undone, Akechi's fate will revert to its proper state when the correct reality is reinstated. Yet Akechi rejects Maruki's reality; the guy who's been manipulated for most of his life refuses to have anything less than total control over it. While his fate remains unknown in the correct reality, [[TheLastDance he still fights just as hard with the group he once opposed just to prove he has some semblance of control over his life]]. While this does double as an awesome moment for Akechi, it's hard to not to feel sorry for the guy, as even in the case that he might be alive, he will still need to suffer what is most likely life behind bars, assuming that he will still have a life at all once the proper reality is restored. And yet... Akechi ''still'' wants to fight together with his only friend in the entire world, even if it means never seeing the outside world ever again, or even worse, throwing his life away. [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Merely because Joker genuinely treated him like a human being, and not a tool or a monster]].

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* Akechi's final days with the Phantom Thieves are a series of heartbreaks. Akechi and Maruki reveal that if Maruki's LotusEaterMachine is undone, Akechi's fate will revert to its proper state when the correct reality is reinstated. Yet Akechi rejects Maruki's reality; the guy who's been manipulated for most of his life refuses to have anything less than total control over it. While his fate remains unknown in the correct reality, [[TheLastDance he still fights just as hard with the group he once opposed just to prove he has some semblance of control over his life]]. While this does double as an awesome moment for Akechi, it's hard to not to feel sorry for the guy, as even in the case that he might be alive, he will still need to suffer what is most likely life behind bars, assuming that he will still [[UncertainDoom he'll have a life at all once the proper reality is restored.restored]]. And yet... Akechi ''still'' wants to fight together with his only friend in the entire world, even if it means never seeing the outside world ever again, or even worse, throwing his life away. [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Merely because Joker genuinely treated him like a human being, and not a tool or a monster]].
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* Akechi's final days with the Phantom Thieves are a series of heartbreaks. Akechi and Maruki reveal that if Maruki's LotusEaterMachine is undone, Akechi's fate will revert to its proper state when the correct reality is reinstated. Yet Akechi rejects Maruki's reality; the guy who's been manipulated for most of his life refuses to have anything less than total control over it. While his fate remains unknown in the correct reality, [[TheLastDance he still fights just as hard with the group he once opposed just to prove he has some semblance of control over his life]]. While this does double as an awesome moment for Akechi, it's hard to not to feel sorry for the guy, as even in the case that he might be alive, he will still need to suffer what is most likely life behind bars. And yet... Akechi ''still'' wants to fight together with his only friend in the entire world, even if it means never seeing the outside world ever again, or even worse, throwing his life away. [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Merely because Joker genuinely treated him like a human being, and not a tool or a monster]].

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* Akechi's final days with the Phantom Thieves are a series of heartbreaks. Akechi and Maruki reveal that if Maruki's LotusEaterMachine is undone, Akechi's fate will revert to its proper state when the correct reality is reinstated. Yet Akechi rejects Maruki's reality; the guy who's been manipulated for most of his life refuses to have anything less than total control over it. While his fate remains unknown in the correct reality, [[TheLastDance he still fights just as hard with the group he once opposed just to prove he has some semblance of control over his life]]. While this does double as an awesome moment for Akechi, it's hard to not to feel sorry for the guy, as even in the case that he might be alive, he will still need to suffer what is most likely life behind bars.bars, assuming that he will still have a life at all once the proper reality is restored. And yet... Akechi ''still'' wants to fight together with his only friend in the entire world, even if it means never seeing the outside world ever again, or even worse, throwing his life away. [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe Merely because Joker genuinely treated him like a human being, and not a tool or a monster]].
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--->'''Akechi''': (To Phantom) I wish I could've met you a few years earlier...

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** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (suprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''did'' CameBackWrong...and it ''shows''.

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** All of this talk paints a ''much, more'' HarsherInHindsight atmosphere to her "fake" confidant hangouts and her fake awakening. When she was "Kasumi", her cognition is those of Kasumi's, but her physical properties are all ''Sumire's''. In other hand, when she had depressive fits, prepared weird food for Joker, choosing joke glasses for her father with Joker and missing balls in the batting cages, she's suffering from cognitive dissonance. It's pretty clear that Sumire doesn't feel comfortable in her daily routines because she's been made to think that she's the near-perfect Kasumi, who obviously isn't used to failing almost everything that she does quite effortlessly in the past. It turned out for the worst when her head teacher and Vice Principal tried to revoke her scholarship (suprisingly, for a good reason this time) and she's trying desperately to uphold the expectations people put on her, because she didn't feel like Kasumi at all. She's fruitlessly trying to uphold an identity that she clearly ''isn't''. In other words, she ''did'' ''actually'' CameBackWrong...and it ''shows''.
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* ''[[HateSink Shadow Madarame]]'' of all people gets one after his defeat when, in the midst of his collapsing palace, he reaches out to Yusuke one last time in what surprisingly ''isn't'' a trick. It gives the impression that deep down, beneath even the cruel and ruthless con-man he hid inside himself, he actually ''did'' love Yusuke like family.
--->'''Shadow Madarame:''' Hey, Yusuke... what should I do?
--->'''Yusuke:''' Put an end to all this and use your own artwork for once.
--->'''Shadow Madarame:''' (desperately while sobbing) [[PleaseDontLeaveMe No wait, please! Yusuke! Yusukeee!]]
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** This is perhaps best exemplified when the gang are celebrating taking down Kamoshida, and despite starting off in high spirits, they're soon aware that every adult at the buffet is looking down on them, or treating them like a nuisance. And no matter where they go, it seems they just don't belong anywhere.

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** This is perhaps best exemplified when the gang are celebrating taking down Kamoshida, and despite starting off in high spirits, they're soon aware that every adult at the buffet is looking down on them, or treating them like a nuisance. And no matter where they go, it seems they just don't belong anywhere.''anywhere''.
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** Even worse is that this disdain from the other students never actually lets up, at all. Months after you start school, you can hear people whispering in the halls about how dangerous they think you are, and even around November time your classmates are ''still'' surprised when you answer any questions correctly. Studying in the library can also increase Guts purely due to how much courage it takes the protagonist to focus on his studying while everyone else in the library takes the time to loudly talk shit about you, knowing that you can hear what they're saying. This is despite the protagonist appearing to be an ordinary, hard-working, and generally harmless student once the Kamoshida incident is over. The rumors and scorn never go away and the only way to really deal with it is to simply get used to it.

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** Even worse is that this disdain from the other students never actually lets up, at all. Months after you start school, you can hear people whispering in the halls about how dangerous they think you are, and even around November time your classmates are ''still'' surprised when you answer any questions correctly. Studying in the library can also increase Guts purely due to how much courage it takes the protagonist to focus on his studying while everyone else in the library takes the time to loudly talk shit about you, knowing that you can hear what they're saying. This is despite the protagonist appearing to be an ordinary, hard-working, and generally harmless student once the Kamoshida incident is over. The rumors and scorn never go away and away; the only way to really deal with it is to simply get used to it.
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* Poor Shiho. She may be a side character, but just imagine her situation. One of your teachers, an authority figure you should be able to trust, is a sexual predator who has been targeting your best friend, and when she denies his advances, he ''targets you instead''. And then it gets so bad you think that the only way out of this is to [[DrivenToSuicide kill yourself]].

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* Poor Shiho. She may be a side character, but just imagine her situation. One of your teachers, an authority figure you should be able to trust, is a sexual predator who has been targeting your best friend, and when she denies his advances, he ''targets ''he targets you instead''. And then it gets so bad you think that the only way out of this is to [[DrivenToSuicide kill yourself]].



*** It gets ''worse'' after Shido's change of heart, as instead of being elated at learning the truth the Phan-Site's users hit the DespairEventHorizon due to one of the few hopes for the future they had being torn away from them. The people of Tokyo couldn't be a starker contrast to VideoGame/Persona4's idea of how people would react to "the truth."

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*** It gets ''worse'' after Shido's change of heart, as instead of being elated at learning the truth the Phan-Site's users hit the DespairEventHorizon due to one of the few hopes for the future they had being torn away from them. The people of Tokyo couldn't be a starker contrast to VideoGame/Persona4's ''VideoGame/Persona4''[='=]s idea of how people would react to "the truth."
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* When you're infiltrating Madarame's Palace and interact with the distorted paintings, each of the party members will sadly note on how it's a depiction of another pupil that Madarame has used and thrown away. However, if you look at the paintings while Yusuke is in your party, he'll have a sad note on most of the paintings, who the people were and even on his own painting. It truly puts into perspective how many lives Yusuke has seen ruined by his teacher, which he notes them all with a sad look on his face. The most jarring is when he sees his own painting in Madarame's gallery and his comments on it.

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* When you're infiltrating Madarame's Palace and interact with the distorted paintings, each all of the party members will sadly note on how it's a depiction of another pupil that Madarame has used and thrown away. However, if you look at the paintings while Yusuke is in your party, he'll have a sad note on most of the paintings, who the people were and even on his own painting. It truly puts into perspective how many lives Yusuke has seen ruined by his teacher, which he notes them all with a sad look on his face. The most jarring is when he sees his own painting in Madarame's gallery and his comments on it.
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** Haru's circumstances don't seem as bad as those of the other Thieves at first glance -- she's a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, but as we see her interact with her fiance and her father's perception of him, it becomes clear how viscerally horrifying her situation really is. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm, tries to coerce her into having sex with him, and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene. Later on, the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].

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** Haru's circumstances don't seem as bad as those of the other Thieves at first glance -- she's a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, but as we see her interact with her fiance and her father's perception of him, it becomes clear how viscerally horrifying her situation really is. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm, tries to coerce her into having sex with him, and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene. Later on, the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] it, [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].



** In a scene leading up to the reveal of the truth behind Sumire, you see Shinichi sitting beside Kasumi's corpse, telling her that her mother, her grandmother, and possibly Sumire are coming to see her, right before completely breaking down in tears. It is completely and utterly '''''[[AdultFear heartbreaking]]''''' to watch...

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*** Despite all of the above, Yusuke's confidant shows that he still can't bring himself to ''completely'' hate Madarame, being unable to forget whatever happy times he had living in the atelier with Madarame and the other students -- something that also ties in with him previously being unable to see himself as an abuse victim. Despite everything Madarame did to him, Yusuke ''still'' decides that Madarame wasn't completely evil because he reasons that [[FridgeLogic being taken in purely on the off-chance that he would grow up to have artistic talent doesn't make much logical sense]]. In the main story, he acknowledges during Okumura's Palace that he understands the mental and emotional abuse that Okumura's employees go through -- in which they would do anything to help and serve their boss, seeming to be almost proud of their status as disposable robots -- because [[{{Gaslighting}} he went through it himself]].

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*** Despite all of the above, Yusuke's confidant shows that he still ''still'' can't bring himself to ''completely'' hate Madarame, being unable to forget whatever happy times he had living in the atelier with Madarame and the other students -- something that also ties in with him previously being unable to see himself as an abuse victim. Despite everything Madarame did to him, Yusuke ''still'' decides that Madarame wasn't completely evil because he reasons that [[FridgeLogic being taken in purely on the off-chance that he would grow up to have artistic talent doesn't make much logical sense]]. In the main story, he acknowledges during Okumura's Palace that he understands the mental and emotional abuse that Okumura's employees go through -- in which they would do anything to help and serve their boss, seeming to be almost proud of their status as disposable robots -- because [[{{Gaslighting}} he went through it himself]].
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** While Ryuji may seem like a rowdy delinquent in the story proper, he has a very good reason for being that way. When he was a former track star, Shujin's PE teacher, Kamoshida, intentionally tried to provoke him by spreading rumors about [[AbusiveParents his]] [[DomesticAbuse home life]]. When Ryuji finally hit his RageBreakingPoint and punched him, Kamoshida ''broke his leg'' claiming self-defense, and subsequently disbanded the track club. Ryuji's former teammates blamed him entirely for the incident, and after the fact, when he was labeled a delinquent by the rest of the school, Ryuji decided that if people thought he was nothing but a troublemaker, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then he might as well be one]]. All of this left him friendless until the protagonist enrolls at Shujin. But even then, he's still left with irreparable damage to his leg that impairs his ability to run without his Persona's assistance.

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** While Ryuji may seem like a rowdy delinquent in the story proper, he has a very good reason for being that way. When he was a former track star, Shujin's PE teacher, Kamoshida, intentionally tried to provoke him by spreading rumors about [[AbusiveParents his]] [[DomesticAbuse home life]]. When Ryuji finally hit his RageBreakingPoint and punched him, Kamoshida ''broke his leg'' claiming self-defense, and subsequently disbanded the track club. Ryuji's former teammates blamed him entirely for the incident, and after the fact, when he was labeled a delinquent by the rest of the school, Ryuji decided that if people thought he was nothing but a troublemaker, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then he might as well be one]]. one.]] All of this left him friendless until the protagonist enrolls at Shujin. But even then, he's still left with irreparable damage to his leg that impairs his ability to run without his Persona's assistance.
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* In the modified version of the Shadow Kamoshida boss fight, he will summon a cognitive Shiho wearing a playboy bunny outfit, indicating that just like with Ann, Kamoshida didn't treat her as anything other than a slut. Now this is the kicker: Morgana will tell you to kill her because it's a cognition, and indeed you can! You can even get 1 More from downing her from any attack, as she's weak to ''everything''. The only saving grace is that if you don't want to "kill" Shiho, attacking Kamoshida himself for around 300 damage will let you pass without having to hit it at all.

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* In the modified version of the Shadow Kamoshida boss fight, he will summon a cognitive Shiho wearing a playboy bunny outfit, indicating that just like with Ann, Kamoshida didn't treat her as anything other than a slut. Now this is the kicker: Morgana will tell you to kill her because it's a cognition, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential and indeed you can! can!]] You can even get 1 More from downing her from any attack, as she's weak to ''everything''. The only saving grace is that [[VideoGameCaringPotential if you don't want to "kill" Shiho, Shiho]], attacking Kamoshida himself for around 300 damage will let you pass without having to hit it at all.

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