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Didn't Shido make sure that nobody knew of his involvement? And nobody ever mentions the protagonist as having assaulted a politician.


* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted Japan's most beloved politician". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.

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* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted Japan's most beloved politician".someone". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.
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-->Joker: Give them one reason to distrust you, and it's all over. That's how it is, especially with adults.

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-->Joker: -->'''Joker:''' Give them one reason to distrust you, and it's all over. That's how it is, especially with adults.
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** The traitor [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath sacrificing himself to save the rest of the Phantom Thieves]] from his Cognitive Self and the horde of Shadows it brings by locking himself inside the engine room in a last attempt at redemption, entrusting the Thieves to carry out his last wish of bringing Shido down.]] As if that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:The Justice Confidant link hits rank 10 during this scene.]] Ouch.
** Quite a few lines that The Traitor said during the game was ''much'' HarsherInHindsight once you know the full story.

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** The traitor [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath sacrificing himself to save the rest of the Phantom Thieves]] from his Cognitive Self and the horde of Shadows it brings by locking himself inside the engine room in a last attempt at redemption, entrusting the Thieves to carry out his last wish of bringing Shido down.]] As if that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:the Justice Confidant link hits rank 10 during this scene.]] Ouch.
** Quite a few lines that The Traitor said the traitor says during the game was are ''much'' HarsherInHindsight once you know the full story.



** [[spoiler:While it is possibly justified the fact that he is the traitor and more of a temporarily party member, though it was looking like he was genuinely ready to turn down to a path of redemption or at least face his crimes with some dignity, the fact that Goro barely gets mentioned much at all after his apparent death and character arc just seems sad.]]

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** [[spoiler:While it is possibly justified by the fact that he is the traitor and more of a temporarily temporary party member, though it was looking looked like he was genuinely ready to turn down to a path of redemption or at least face his crimes with some dignity, the fact that Goro barely gets mentioned much at all after his apparent death and character arc just seems sad.]]
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* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted someone". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.

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* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted someone".Japan's most beloved politician". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make her situation one of the most viscerally horrifying out of the Thieves. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].

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** Haru is Haru's circumstances don't seem as bad as those of the other Thieves at first glance--she's a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not but as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, we see her interactions interact with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's [[spoiler: and her father's perception of him]] make her situation one of the most him]], it becomes clear how viscerally horrifying out of the Thieves. her situation really is. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on on, [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].
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** Her situation was bad from the outset, even before the heavily-implied rape. Like the rest of the volleyball team, being beaten by Kamoshida was a regular occurrence for her, to the point of a visible bruise over one eye and a swollen leg, and like the rest of the team, the game implies he threatened her into keeping quiet about his brutal treatment, blowing it off as 'just practice' due to competing on a national level.
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*** Just in case you thought the monsters behind [[spoiler:her mother's murder]] couldn't get any worse, the murals in her Palace show that [[spoiler:the bastards ''read the suicide note aloud in front of a grief-stricken Futaba and all of her relatives.'' They killed her mother, made a point of forging a note that blamed her for her mother's death, [[KickTheDog for literally no reason]], then carefully orchestrated things so that not only would she have to sit there and listen to it, but her relatives (who didn't seem like the most pleasant of people to begin with) were almost guaranteed to turn on her. No wonder her shadow urges her to get angry -- after that, it's a wonder that Futaba doesn't track down the "men in black" personally and exact vengeance]].

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*** Just in case you thought the monsters behind [[spoiler:her mother's murder]] couldn't get any worse, the murals in her Palace show that [[spoiler:the bastards ''read the suicide note aloud in front of a grief-stricken Futaba and all of her relatives.'' They killed her mother, made a point of forging a note that blamed her for her mother's death, [[KickTheDog for literally no reason]], then carefully orchestrated things so that not only would she have to sit there and listen to it, but her relatives (who didn't seem like the most pleasant of people to begin with) were almost guaranteed to turn on her. No wonder her shadow urges her to get angry -- after angry--after that, it's a wonder that Futaba doesn't track down the "men in black" personally and exact vengeance]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make her situation one of the most viscerally horrifying out of the Thieves. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make her situation one of the most viscerally horrifying out of the Thieves. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, place,]] [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].
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** Picture this: You're an average kid in your hometown walking back home early in the evening. Everything is fine, until you hear screaming. You run to see what's going on, and find a drunken man attempting to assault a woman and force her into a car; [[GoodSamaritan you step in between them, and push the man away from her]], maybe a little too forcefully, and he cuts his forehead. The next thing you know the police are on the scene and the woman you protected is telling them that you attacked the man for no reason. And just like that, [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished you're expelled from your school, taken to court, and sentenced to a year on probation]], all because you happened to cross [[spoiler:the most corrupt politician in the country]]. These are the protagonist's circumstances and the ones that kick-start ''the entire plot of the game''.
** While Ryuji may seem like a rowdy delinquent in the story proper, he has a very good reason for being that way. When he was a former track star, the volleyball coach, Kamoshida, intentionally tried to provoke him by [[spoiler:spreading rumors about [[AbusiveParents his]] [[DomesticAbuse home life]]. When Ryuji finally hit his RageBreakingPoint and punched him, Kamoshida ''broke his leg'' claiming self-defense, and subsequently disbanded the track club. Ryuji's former teammates blamed him entirely for the incident, leaving him friendless until the protagonist enrolls at Shujin. But even then, he's still left with irreparable damage to his leg that leaves him almost unable to run without his Persona's assistance]].
** Ann, despite having [[ButNotTooWhite mostly Japanese]] parents and being raised in Japan, is bullied and slut-shamed by her peers and becomes the subject of Kamoshida's unwanted sexual advances purely because of her foreign appearance. When she refuses him, he set his sights on her friend Shiho, and sexually assaults ''her'' in Ann's stead. The assault drives Shiho to attempt suicide while the entire school, including Ann, watches. Shiho ultimately survives, but it leaves a huge mark on Ann, and taking revenge for Shiho becomes her motivation for joining the Thieves in the first place.
** When his mother died, Yusuke was adopted by his mentor, Madarame, but instead of being HappilyAdopted, he ended up [[spoiler:starving in a ramshackle house, putting out artwork for his adoptive father to profit from, and the worst part is that his loyalty to Madarame ran so deeply he couldn't even fathom the idea that he was an abuse victim]]. Yusuke later learns that [[spoiler:his mother was a former pupil of Madarame's, who chose to let her die during a seizure rather than seek medical attention for her so he could claim "Sayuri" as his own]].
** Although Makoto probably has the fewest issues of the Thieves, she still qualifies -- she's constantly pressured by everyone in her life, not least by her older sister Sae, to be an exemplar of everything she does, resulting in her peers viewing her somewhat correctly as an ineffectual TeachersPet, and Sae treating her as a liability when Makoto becomes cognizant of her own lack of focus and questions the importance of academic success. When Principal Kobayakawa forces her to investigate both the Phantom Thieves and a criminal group that uses Shujin students as drug smugglers, [[spoiler:she recklessly endangers herself by confronting the group's boss directly in an attempt to prove her "usefulness", and is nearly blackmailed into [[SexSlave sexual slavery]]]]. Like Futaba, the ending you get if you fail to complete Kaneshiro's palace is ''terrifying'': the protagonist misremembers the context of his arrest, [[spoiler:believing instead that he was taken in for questioning after Makoto was found at an "establishment for illegal services" and managed to incriminate him despite being in a drug-induced stupor]]. Even though, as with the other endings associated with failing to complete a palace, it could never have happened, the fact it's such a plausible scenario is as much NightmareFuel as it is a TearJerker.
** Futaba's mother Wakaba was killed in a hit-and-run [[spoiler:after Goro Akechi murdered her Shadow in a bid to help Masayoshi Shido steal her research on cognitive psience]]. [[spoiler:Members of the Conspiracy framed the incident as a suicide by forging a note in which Wakaba purportedly claimed to be unable to deal with the stress of single motherhood]], compounding Futaba's social anxiety with a case of [[SurvivorGuilt post-traumatic stress disorder]] that gives her auditory hallucinations, paranoid delusions of her mother's face overlaying other peoples', and keeps her from ''leaving her own house''. Her self-blame is so extreme that [[spoiler:it manifests itself as the boss of her palace, a monstrous half-sphinx version of Wakaba who screams that Futaba never should have been born]].
*** The very fact that she has a Palace. Most people's issues are minor enough that they have no Palace of their own, just Mementos. Only extreme distorted desires can create a Palace, like an abusive teacher who sees an entire school as his castle, or a crime boss who views all of Shibuya as his personal bank. Think about it, Futaba hates herself so much that it created a Palace on the same level as those. That should say something.

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** Picture this: You're an average kid in your hometown walking back home early in the evening. Everything is fine, until you hear screaming. two people screaming at each other, and one of them sounds particularly distressed. You run to see what's going on, and find a drunken man attempting to assault a woman and force her into a car; car. [[GoodSamaritan you You step in between them, and push the man away from her]], maybe a little too forcefully, and he cuts his forehead. The next thing you know the police are on the scene and the woman you protected is telling them that you attacked the man for no reason.unprovoked. And just like that, [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished you're expelled from your school, taken to court, and sentenced to a year on probation]], all because you happened to cross [[spoiler:the most corrupt politician in the country]]. These are the protagonist's circumstances and the ones that kick-start ''the entire plot of the game''.
** While Ryuji may seem like a rowdy delinquent in the story proper, he has a very good reason for being that way. When he was a former track star, the volleyball coach, Kamoshida, intentionally tried to provoke him by [[spoiler:spreading rumors about [[AbusiveParents his]] [[DomesticAbuse home life]]. When Ryuji finally hit his RageBreakingPoint and punched him, Kamoshida ''broke his leg'' claiming self-defense, and subsequently disbanded the track club. Ryuji's former teammates blamed him entirely for the incident, leaving him friendless until the protagonist enrolls at Shujin. But even then, he's still left with irreparable damage to his leg that leaves him almost unable impairs his ability to run without his Persona's assistance]].
** Ann, despite having [[ButNotTooWhite mostly Japanese]] parents and being raised in Japan, is bullied and slut-shamed by her peers peers, and becomes the subject of Kamoshida's unwanted sexual advances purely because of her foreign appearance. When she refuses him, he set sets his sights on her best friend Shiho, and sexually assaults rapes ''her'' in Ann's stead. The assault rape drives Shiho to attempt suicide while the entire school, including Ann, watches. Shiho ultimately survives, but it leaves a huge mark on Ann, and taking revenge for Shiho becomes her motivation for joining the Thieves in the first place.
** When his mother died, Yusuke was adopted by his mentor, Madarame, but instead of being HappilyAdopted, he ended up [[spoiler:starving in a ramshackle house, putting out artwork for his adoptive foster father [[spoiler:turns out to profit from, be an abuser who forces him to live in poverty, keeps him in a state of semi-starvation, and the worst part is that ruthlessly plagiarizes his loyalty to Madarame ran so deeply he couldn't even work for profit. In heartbreakingly realistic form, Yusuke himself can't fathom the idea that he was he's an abuse victim]]. Yusuke victim, and lashes out at the Thieves when they attempt to help.]] He later learns that [[spoiler:his mother was a former pupil of Madarame's, who and that he chose to let her die during a seizure rather than seek medical attention for her so he could claim "Sayuri" her masterwork, "Sayuri", as his own]].
own]], removing any of Yusuke's doubts that Madarame is irredeemable.
** Although Makoto probably has the fewest issues of the Thieves, she still qualifies -- she's qualifies--she's constantly pressured by everyone in her life, not least by her older sister Sae, to be an exemplar of everything she does, resulting in her peers viewing her somewhat correctly as an ineffectual TeachersPet, and Sae treating her as a liability when Makoto she becomes cognizant aware of her own lack of focus and questions begins questioning the importance of academic success. When Principal Kobayakawa forces her to investigate both the Phantom Thieves and a criminal group that uses Shujin students as drug smugglers, [[spoiler:she recklessly endangers herself by confronting the group's boss directly in an attempt to prove her "usefulness", and is nearly blackmailed into [[SexSlave sexual slavery]]]]. Like Futaba, the ending you get if you fail to complete Kaneshiro's palace is ''terrifying'': the protagonist misremembers the context of his arrest, [[spoiler:believing instead that he was taken in for questioning after Makoto was found at an "establishment for illegal services" and managed to incriminate him despite being in a drug-induced stupor]]. Even though, as though it could never have happened (as with the other endings associated with failing to complete a palace, it could never have happened, palace) the fact it's such a plausible scenario is as much NightmareFuel as it is a TearJerker.
** Futaba's mother Wakaba was killed in a hit-and-run [[spoiler:after Goro Akechi murdered her Shadow in a successful bid to help Masayoshi Shido steal her research on cognitive psience]]. [[spoiler:Members of the Conspiracy framed the incident as a suicide by forging a note in which Wakaba purportedly claimed to be unable to deal with the stress of single motherhood]], compounding Futaba's social anxiety with a case of [[SurvivorGuilt post-traumatic stress disorder]] that gives her auditory hallucinations, hallucinations and paranoid delusions of her mother's face overlaying other peoples', and keeps her from ''leaving her own house''. Her self-blame is so extreme that [[spoiler:it manifests itself as the boss of her palace, a monstrous half-sphinx version of Wakaba who screams that Futaba never should have been born]].
*** The very fact that she has a Palace. Most people's issues are minor enough that they have no Palace of their own, just Mementos. Only extreme extremely distorted desires can create a Palace, like an abusive teacher who sees an entire school as his castle, or a crime boss who views all of Shibuya as his personal bank. Think about it, Futaba hates herself so much that it created a Palace on the same level as those. That should say something.



*** Futaba's past circumstances snowball in Sojiro's Confidant link. [[spoiler:Believing her to be responsible for her mother's death, Wakaba's family completely rejected her, and the relatives acting as her legal guardians began abusing her. At the peak of the abuse, Futaba, who was living with an [[EvilUncle uncle]] at the time, was forced to sleep on the floor and forbidden from bathing, at which point Sojiro intervened and all but bought Futaba off of him to remove her from the situation]]. When the uncle begins visiting Leblanc to extort money from Sojiro, Futaba walks in on one occasion, and she outright ''[[OhCrap whimpers]]'' in fear.

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*** Futaba's past circumstances snowball backstory snowballs into something so much worse in Sojiro's Confidant link. [[spoiler:Believing her to be responsible for her mother's death, Wakaba's family completely rejected her, and the relatives acting as her legal guardians began abusing her. At the peak of the abuse, Futaba, who was living with an [[EvilUncle uncle]] at the time, was forced to sleep on the floor and forbidden from bathing, at which point Sojiro intervened and all but bought Futaba off of him to remove her from the situation]]. When the uncle begins visiting Leblanc to extort money from Sojiro, Futaba walks in on one occasion, and she outright ''[[OhCrap whimpers]]'' in fear.



** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire her situation so much more terrifying.one of the most viscerally horrifying out of the Thieves. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[AdultFear or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[AdultFear [[NightmareFuel or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, [[AdultFear or even cared]].
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* On the subject of Sojiro, though, his rank 9 Confidant is a ''much happier'' kind of Tearjerking. [[spoiler:Joker and Futaba were a little bit late in changing her uncle's heart, and social services shows up at Leblanc. It initially seems like a nightmare scenario (Joker being accused of violence ''again'', and Sojiro being accused of abusing Futaba)... however, the lead investigator is a very reasonable sort, and is absolutely willing to listen to Joker and Futaba refute the claims. This caps off with Futaba openly stating she's happy living with her ''dad''... calling Sojiro dad for the first time. As Sojiro tries to avoid dropping dead from joy, the interview closes on a huge positive note, with the investigator noting that he'll recommend to the court that further follow-ups for ''both'' kids aren't necessary. After the investigators leave, Sojiro is struggling to maintain his composure and notes that it's not just Futaba who's a great kid - there's someone else living under this roof who's important too.]] Needless to say, this is all very likely to wring the tears out of anyone who's had to deal with child services before, is ''the'' moment Joker, Sojiro and Futaba really become a family for real, and doubles as one of the game's absolute ''crowning'' [[Persona5/CrowningMomentsOfHeartwarming moments of heartwarming]].

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* On the subject of Sojiro, though, his rank 9 Confidant is a ''much happier'' kind of Tearjerking. [[spoiler:Joker and Futaba were a little bit late in changing her uncle's heart, and social services shows up at Leblanc. It initially seems like a nightmare scenario (Joker being accused of violence ''again'', and Sojiro being accused of abusing Futaba)... however, the lead investigator is a very reasonable sort, and is absolutely willing to listen to Joker and Futaba refute the claims. This caps off with Futaba openly stating she's happy living with her ''dad''... calling Sojiro dad for the first time. As Sojiro tries to avoid dropping dead from joy, the interview closes on a huge positive note, with the investigator noting that he'll recommend to the court that further follow-ups for ''both'' kids aren't necessary. After the investigators leave, Sojiro is struggling to maintain his composure and notes that it's not just Futaba who's a great kid - there's someone else living under this roof who's important too.]] Needless to say, this is all very likely to wring the tears out of anyone who's had to deal with child services before, is ''the'' moment Joker, Sojiro and Futaba really become a family for real, and doubles as one of the game's absolute ''crowning'' [[Persona5/CrowningMomentsOfHeartwarming [[Heartwarming/Persona5 moments of heartwarming]].



--> Yusuke: "Is this...me...?"
--> Ann: "Fox..."
--> Yusuke: "So this is how Madarame views me...? How preposterous..."

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->''...That's right... [[SurvivorGuilt I killed Mom]]. I don't deserve to be alive... This place is a tomb... I'll die here... No...! Someone help me...''
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- is. In other words, [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].
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The Japanese and English game overs are the same. Futaba's game over does not mention her, therefore the protagonist did not misremember her.


** Futaba's mother Wakaba was killed in a hit-and-run [[spoiler:after Goro Akechi murdered her Shadow in a bid to help Masayoshi Shido steal her research on cognitive psience]]. [[spoiler:Members of the Conspiracy framed the incident as a suicide by forging a note in which Wakaba purportedly claimed to be unable to deal with the stress of single motherhood]], compounding Futaba's social anxiety with a case of [[SurvivorGuilt post-traumatic stress disorder]] that gives her auditory hallucinations, paranoid delusions of her mother's face overlaying other peoples', and keeps her from ''leaving her own house''. Her self-blame is so extreme that [[spoiler:it manifests itself as the boss of her palace, a monstrous half-sphinx version of Wakaba who screams that Futaba never should have been born]]. And if you don't clear her palace in time, [[spoiler:the protagonist misremembers events during his interrogation, and claims that she ''commits suicide''. Even though the player knows for a fact that it could never have occurred, the implication that the protagonist knows damn well what would have happened to her if his team screwed up is depressing]].

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** Futaba's mother Wakaba was killed in a hit-and-run [[spoiler:after Goro Akechi murdered her Shadow in a bid to help Masayoshi Shido steal her research on cognitive psience]]. [[spoiler:Members of the Conspiracy framed the incident as a suicide by forging a note in which Wakaba purportedly claimed to be unable to deal with the stress of single motherhood]], compounding Futaba's social anxiety with a case of [[SurvivorGuilt post-traumatic stress disorder]] that gives her auditory hallucinations, paranoid delusions of her mother's face overlaying other peoples', and keeps her from ''leaving her own house''. Her self-blame is so extreme that [[spoiler:it manifests itself as the boss of her palace, a monstrous half-sphinx version of Wakaba who screams that Futaba never should have been born]]. And if you don't clear her palace in time, [[spoiler:the protagonist misremembers events during his interrogation, and claims that she ''commits suicide''. Even though the player knows for a fact that it could never have occurred, the implication that the protagonist knows damn well what would have happened to her if his team screwed up is depressing]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense place, or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced strong-armed into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].



** There's also a moment between sad and joyful tears a bit earlier: [[spoiler:when Futaba talks about how Wakaba viewed Sojiro, the way Futaba talks about how often and passionately Wakaba mentioned him makes it pretty clear that Wakaba actually did have a thing for Sojiro (to the point that even Futaba could see it), and the only reason that Sojiro isn't Futaba's full-blown stepfather-through-marriage is that Wakaba was just never given time to pursue it. It's pretty clear that, for all intents and purposes, Futaba considers Sojiro her dad because her mother cared about him that much, and that's more than enough by itself for Futaba.]]

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** There's also a moment between sad and joyful tears a bit earlier: [[spoiler:when Futaba talks about how Wakaba viewed Sojiro, the way Futaba talks about how often and passionately Wakaba mentioned him makes it pretty clear that Wakaba actually did have a thing for Sojiro (to the point that where even Futaba could see it), and the only reason that Sojiro isn't Futaba's full-blown stepfather-through-marriage is that Wakaba was just never given the time to pursue it. It's pretty clear that, for all intents and purposes, Futaba considers Sojiro her dad because her mother cared about him that much, and that's more than enough by itself for Futaba.]]
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense place,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], it,]] [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, place,]][[MaritalRapeLicense or even cared]].
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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father to enter the political world. Although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Kunikazu Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying; the first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and actively manipulates her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father father, Kunikazu Okumura, to enter the political world. Although world, and although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Kunikazu Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying; the terrifying. The first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and later on [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and actively manipulates emotionally blackmails her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].
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** Not to mention that Makoto is being put under pressure by the Principal of Shujin Academy; he's expecting her to solve issues that should really be taken to the authorities, not put on the shoulders of a teenage girl who already has enough responsibilities weighing her down. She's even coerced into it because the Principal mentions her link to Sae, and Makoto would clearly do anything for her big sister.
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** After this point on, the popularity of the Phantom Thieves begin to plummet, and the anonymous comments under the ratings bar during each transition scene turn as toxic as online comments get. A rather uneasy transition from the growing support from before. At its worst, some of these comments get outright deleted, implying they're so bad that Mishima has to intervene.
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** Even worse is that this disdain from the other students never actually lets up, at all. Months after you start school, you can hear people whispering in the halls about how dangerous they think you are, and even around November time your classmates are ''still'' surprised when you answer questions correctly. Studying in the library can also increase Guts purely due to how much courage it takes the protagonist to focus on his studying while everyone else in the library takes the time to loudly talk shit about you, knowing that you can hear what they're saying. This is despite the protagonist appearing to be an ordinary, hard-working, and generally harmless student once the Kamoshida incident is over. The rumours and bullying never go away and the only way to really deal with it is to simply get used to it.
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*** On top of that [[spoiler: there's the fact that Akechi's reaction to being offered redemption is to go absolutely ''apeshit furious'' and attempt to murder the Phantom Thieves because of a combination of jealousy, anger, and the [[DespairEventHorizon realization that]] ''[[AllForNothing every single one of his atrocities in the pursuit of justice were completely avoidable.]]'' Given the way he talks, it seems like he was starting to GoMadFromTheRevelation even ''before'' he made Loki drive him completely insane.]]

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*** On top of that [[spoiler: there's the fact that Akechi's reaction to being offered redemption is to go absolutely ''apeshit furious'' and attempt to murder the Phantom Thieves because of a combination of jealousy, anger, and the [[DespairEventHorizon realization that]] realization]] that ''[[AllForNothing every single one of his atrocities in the pursuit of justice were completely avoidable.]]'' Given the way he talks, it seems like he was starting to GoMadFromTheRevelation even ''before'' he made Loki drive him completely insane.]]
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*** On top of that [[spoiler: there's the fact that Akechi's reaction to being offered redemption is to go absolutely ''apeshit furious'' and attempt to murder the Phantom Thieves because of a combination of jealousy, anger, and the [[DespairEventHorizon realization that]] ''[[AllForNothing every single one of his atrocities in the pursuit of justice were completely avoidable.]]'' Given the way he talks, it seems like he was starting to GoMadFromTheRevelation even ''before'' he made Loki drive him completely insane.]]
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** Although Makoto probably has the fewest issues of the Thieves, she still qualifies -- she's constantly pressured by everyone in her life, not least by her older sister Sae, to be an exemplar of everything she does, resulting in her peers viewing her somewhat correctly as an ineffectual TeachersPet, and Sae treating her as a liability when Makoto becomes cognizant of her own aimlessness and questions the importance of academic success. When Principal Kobayakawa forces her to investigate both the Phantom Thieves and a criminal group that uses Shujin students as drug smugglers, [[spoiler:she recklessly endangers herself by confronting the group's boss directly in an attempt to prove her "usefulness", and is nearly blackmailed into [[SexSlave sexual slavery]]]]. Like Futaba, the ending you get if you fail to complete Kaneshiro's palace is ''terrifying'': the protagonist misremembers the context of his arrest, [[spoiler:believing instead that he was taken in for questioning after Makoto was found at an "establishment for illegal services" and managed to incriminate him despite being in a drug-induced stupor]]. Even though, as with the other endings associated with failing to complete a palace, it could never have happened, the fact it's such a plausible scenario is as much NightmareFuel as it is a TearJerker.

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** Although Makoto probably has the fewest issues of the Thieves, she still qualifies -- she's constantly pressured by everyone in her life, not least by her older sister Sae, to be an exemplar of everything she does, resulting in her peers viewing her somewhat correctly as an ineffectual TeachersPet, and Sae treating her as a liability when Makoto becomes cognizant of her own aimlessness lack of focus and questions the importance of academic success. When Principal Kobayakawa forces her to investigate both the Phantom Thieves and a criminal group that uses Shujin students as drug smugglers, [[spoiler:she recklessly endangers herself by confronting the group's boss directly in an attempt to prove her "usefulness", and is nearly blackmailed into [[SexSlave sexual slavery]]]]. Like Futaba, the ending you get if you fail to complete Kaneshiro's palace is ''terrifying'': the protagonist misremembers the context of his arrest, [[spoiler:believing instead that he was taken in for questioning after Makoto was found at an "establishment for illegal services" and managed to incriminate him despite being in a drug-induced stupor]]. Even though, as with the other endings associated with failing to complete a palace, it could never have happened, the fact it's such a plausible scenario is as much NightmareFuel as it is a TearJerker.



** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father to enter the political world. Although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Kunikazu's Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying; the first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and actively manipulates her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].

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** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father to enter the political world. Although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Kunikazu's Kunikazu Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying; the first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and actively manipulates her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].
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* A [[PlayerPunch gameplay-related example.]] If you try and negotiate with a Shadow whose Persona you once had but have since fused away or dismissed, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it'll call you out]] [[YouBastard for abandoning it.]] It'll definitely hurt the first time you see it, doubly so if it's a Persona you used for a long time.

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* A [[PlayerPunch gameplay-related example.]] If you try and negotiate with a Shadow whose Persona you once had but have since fused away or dismissed, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it'll call you out]] for [[YouBastard for abandoning it.]] It'll definitely hurt the first time you see it, doubly so if it's a Persona you used for a long time.
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* A [[PlayerPunch gameplay-related example.]] If you try and negotiate with a Shadow whose Persona you once had but have since fused away or dismissed, [[WeUsedToBeFriends it'll call you out]] [[YouBastard for abandoning it.]] It'll definitely hurt the first time you see it, doubly so if it's a Persona you used for a long time.
** Even more heartbreaking is the sight of a lot of these Persona's utterly dejected looks when they're about to be sacrificed. Lucky enough, Arsene is one of the few to avert this, [[FaceDeathWithDignity keeping his composure]] and looking all badass as hell.
* The sheer level of ostracism and seething ''contempt'' the protagonist endures, especially from adults, throughout the game. It doesn't matter what he achieves, what his grades are, or how nice a person he is, to them he will ''always'' just be "that punk who assaulted someone". Many players have noted how the protagonist's mistreatment at the hands of [=NPCs=] hits ''way'' too close to home for them.
** This is perhaps best exemplified when the gang are celebrating taking down Kamoshida, and despite starting off in high spirits they're soon aware that every adult at the buffet is looking down on them, or treating them like a nuisance. And that no matter where they go, it seems they just don't belong anywhere.
* Tokyo in this game can be seen as very oppressive where the people in power are corrupt, many ordinary individuals ignore the problems around them and may even support this kind of action. Anyone that try to do anything about it are met with criticism by the general public either due to the futility of the attempt or because they would shake up the status quo too much. If they're unlucky enough, they may even be met with an arrest or worse.
* The opening segment of the game. There lays the protagonist, pinned to the ground by countless police, still wearing a bitter look of defiance on his face. One of the cops gloats by telling him that he was sold out by one of his own teammates. That alone drains his will to fight as he's finally cuffed. [[spoiler:Granted, it ends up being subverted because it's actually him realizing that's the cue for the next stage of the Thieves' grand plan and he needs to continue keeping up appearances, but new viewers won't know that.]]
* ''All'' of the Thieves' backstories and their reasons for joining the Phantom Thieves qualify.
** Picture this: You're an average kid in your hometown walking back home early in the evening. Everything is fine, until you hear screaming. You run to see what's going on, and find a drunken man attempting to assault a woman and force her into a car; [[GoodSamaritan you step in between them, and push the man away from her]], maybe a little too forcefully, and he cuts his forehead. The next thing you know the police are on the scene and the woman you protected is telling them that you attacked the man for no reason. And just like that, [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished you're expelled from your school, taken to court, and sentenced to a year on probation]], all because you happened to cross [[spoiler:the most corrupt politician in the country]]. These are the protagonist's circumstances and the ones that kick-start ''the entire plot of the game''.
** While Ryuji may seem like a rowdy delinquent in the story proper, he has a very good reason for being that way. When he was a former track star, the volleyball coach, Kamoshida, intentionally tried to provoke him by [[spoiler:spreading rumors about [[AbusiveParents his]] [[DomesticAbuse home life]]. When Ryuji finally hit his RageBreakingPoint and punched him, Kamoshida ''broke his leg'' claiming self-defense, and subsequently disbanded the track club. Ryuji's former teammates blamed him entirely for the incident, leaving him friendless until the protagonist enrolls at Shujin. But even then, he's still left with irreparable damage to his leg that leaves him almost unable to run without his Persona's assistance]].
** Ann, despite having [[ButNotTooWhite mostly Japanese]] parents and being raised in Japan, is bullied and slut-shamed by her peers and becomes the subject of Kamoshida's unwanted sexual advances purely because of her foreign appearance. When she refuses him, he set his sights on her friend Shiho, and sexually assaults ''her'' in Ann's stead. The assault drives Shiho to attempt suicide while the entire school, including Ann, watches. Shiho ultimately survives, but it leaves a huge mark on Ann, and taking revenge for Shiho becomes her motivation for joining the Thieves in the first place.
** When his mother died, Yusuke was adopted by his mentor, Madarame, but instead of being HappilyAdopted, he ended up [[spoiler:starving in a ramshackle house, putting out artwork for his adoptive father to profit from, and the worst part is that his loyalty to Madarame ran so deeply he couldn't even fathom the idea that he was an abuse victim]]. Yusuke later learns that [[spoiler:his mother was a former pupil of Madarame's, who chose to let her die during a seizure rather than seek medical attention for her so he could claim "Sayuri" as his own]].
** Although Makoto probably has the fewest issues of the Thieves, she still qualifies -- she's constantly pressured by everyone in her life, not least by her older sister Sae, to be an exemplar of everything she does, resulting in her peers viewing her somewhat correctly as an ineffectual TeachersPet, and Sae treating her as a liability when Makoto becomes cognizant of her own aimlessness and questions the importance of academic success. When Principal Kobayakawa forces her to investigate both the Phantom Thieves and a criminal group that uses Shujin students as drug smugglers, [[spoiler:she recklessly endangers herself by confronting the group's boss directly in an attempt to prove her "usefulness", and is nearly blackmailed into [[SexSlave sexual slavery]]]]. Like Futaba, the ending you get if you fail to complete Kaneshiro's palace is ''terrifying'': the protagonist misremembers the context of his arrest, [[spoiler:believing instead that he was taken in for questioning after Makoto was found at an "establishment for illegal services" and managed to incriminate him despite being in a drug-induced stupor]]. Even though, as with the other endings associated with failing to complete a palace, it could never have happened, the fact it's such a plausible scenario is as much NightmareFuel as it is a TearJerker.
** Futaba's mother Wakaba was killed in a hit-and-run [[spoiler:after Goro Akechi murdered her Shadow in a bid to help Masayoshi Shido steal her research on cognitive psience]]. [[spoiler:Members of the Conspiracy framed the incident as a suicide by forging a note in which Wakaba purportedly claimed to be unable to deal with the stress of single motherhood]], compounding Futaba's social anxiety with a case of [[SurvivorGuilt post-traumatic stress disorder]] that gives her auditory hallucinations, paranoid delusions of her mother's face overlaying other peoples', and keeps her from ''leaving her own house''. Her self-blame is so extreme that [[spoiler:it manifests itself as the boss of her palace, a monstrous half-sphinx version of Wakaba who screams that Futaba never should have been born]]. And if you don't clear her palace in time, [[spoiler:the protagonist misremembers events during his interrogation, and claims that she ''commits suicide''. Even though the player knows for a fact that it could never have occurred, the implication that the protagonist knows damn well what would have happened to her if his team screwed up is depressing]].
*** The very fact that she has a Palace. Most people's issues are minor enough that they have no Palace of their own, just Mementos. Only extreme distorted desires can create a Palace, like an abusive teacher who sees an entire school as his castle, or a crime boss who views all of Shibuya as his personal bank. Think about it, Futaba hates herself so much that it created a Palace on the same level as those. That should say something.
*** Also, the [[SavePoint safe rooms]] in her palace flicker out to [[spoiler:become her room]]. Safe rooms are considered places where a person's cognition is weakest and has the least influence, [[spoiler:and that's the space she has locked herself in]].
*** Futaba's past circumstances snowball in Sojiro's Confidant link. [[spoiler:Believing her to be responsible for her mother's death, Wakaba's family completely rejected her, and the relatives acting as her legal guardians began abusing her. At the peak of the abuse, Futaba, who was living with an [[EvilUncle uncle]] at the time, was forced to sleep on the floor and forbidden from bathing, at which point Sojiro intervened and all but bought Futaba off of him to remove her from the situation]]. When the uncle begins visiting Leblanc to extort money from Sojiro, Futaba walks in on one occasion, and she outright ''[[OhCrap whimpers]]'' in fear.
*** Just in case you thought the monsters behind [[spoiler:her mother's murder]] couldn't get any worse, the murals in her Palace show that [[spoiler:the bastards ''read the suicide note aloud in front of a grief-stricken Futaba and all of her relatives.'' They killed her mother, made a point of forging a note that blamed her for her mother's death, [[KickTheDog for literally no reason]], then carefully orchestrated things so that not only would she have to sit there and listen to it, but her relatives (who didn't seem like the most pleasant of people to begin with) were almost guaranteed to turn on her. No wonder her shadow urges her to get angry -- after that, it's a wonder that Futaba doesn't track down the "men in black" personally and exact vengeance]].
** Haru is a LonelyRichKid stuck in an ArrangedMarriage designed to be a stepping stone for her father to enter the political world. Although ostensibly not as bad as the others' reasons for joining the Thieves, her interactions with her fiance [[spoiler:and Kunikazu's Okumura's perception of him]] make the entire situation so much more terrifying; the first time we ever see him, he grabs Haru's arm and tries to coerce her into having sex with him and kicks Morgana into a wall after he tries to intervene, and [[spoiler:the version of him we see in Okumura's palace makes similarly disturbing comments about sexually assaulting her]]. Keep in mind that ''her father'' is the one who approved the match and actively manipulates her into going along with it, despite knowing ''exactly'' what sort of person his future son-in-law is -- [[AdultFear Haru could have potentially been forced into a marriage with a sexually-entitled rapist without the agency to do anything about it]], [[MaritalRapeLicense if anyone believed it was rape in the first place, or even cared]].
*** Much like [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Yukiko before her]], it becomes apparent that Haru has a crush on the Protagonist during her Confidant before actually confessing her feelings. When she finally does confess and if the protagonist turns her down, [[LoveHurts she has a hard time hiding her sadness]].
** Akechi, who at first looks like he's had an absolutely ''charmed'' life, reveals in his confidant link that he's actually [[spoiler:an illegitimate child who was abandoned by his father before he was even born, and it's heavily implied that his mother was shamed into committing suicide for having given birth out of wedlock; subsequently, he became a ward of the court, and was passed around variously to foster homes throughout his childhood. [[IJustWantToBeSpecial His narcissism and insecurity are honestly no wonder]]]].
* After awakening his Persona, Yusuke admits that [[spoiler:he had known for a while that Madarame was up to something sketchy with "Sayuri", even if he didn't know what, and that the plagiarism was an open secret, but he hadn't wanted to admit that the only person he had left in the world was using him and countless other students for his own gain until he came face to face with Madarame's Shadow.]]
* Watching Sae lash out at Makoto and basically calling her a parasite that's ruining her life. To say Makoto was shocked at hearing that from her sister would be an understatement.
** This, along with being berated by the Phantom Thieves for being "useless" (although to be fair, [[JerkassHasAPoint they're right in saying that she can't do anything Metaverse-related at that point]]), is what spurs her into rash action to find Kaneshiro. Makoto is desperate to prove to someone, anyone, that she has value as a person.
* The traitor's whole situation in general. Saying that their whole life has been one long TraumaCongaLine wouldn't be an exaggeration.
** [[spoiler:In addition to his backstory above, Akechi was given the power of the Wild Card by Yaldabaoth. However, due to having ''no one'' to guide him like TheProtagonist, Akechi used his power for the selfish goal of revenge on his father [[BigBad Masayoshi Shido]], but instead he ends up manipulated by Shido using praise into doing TheConspiracy's dirty work. The worst part is, as the story goes along, [[TrappedInVillainy he does appear to start to show remorse for his actions.]]]]
** The BigBad says they started working for him two years ago. [[spoiler:That means Akechi became an assassin ''right out of [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior middle school.]]'']]
** The entire second boss fight against the traitor is part this, part NightmareFuel. Not to mention that they reason they lashed out for a second time is because Morgana pointed out to them that [[spoiler:despite everything, Akechi does genuinely like the friendship he's built with the protagonist.]]
--->'''Morgana''': Just then, when you were with [the protagonist], you were laughing. That was your true self, right? You genuinely do like [him], right?
** The aftermath of said boss fight. [[spoiler:[[HopeSpot Just as when the Thieves are about to recruit Akechi back to fight his dad]], a Cognitive Self version of how Shido views Akechi appears. What ensues is a ''brutal'' BreakingSpeech to the real Akechi, with Cognitive Akechi revealing that Shido never viewed him as anything more than an expendable puppet and is planning to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kill him]] later anyway. The Cognitive Akechi then proceeds to drives home his crippling desire to be loved, stating that despite wanting revenge on Shido, he desperately wanted his father to recognize him as well.]]
** During the aftermath, Haru mentions that while she can't forgive the traitor for [[spoiler:killing her father]], she does sympathize with them. [[spoiler:Considering how she also [[ArchnemesisDad didn't have the best relationship with her father]], it's likely she saw a bit of herself in him.]] Even Yusuke, of all people, admits that he could've ended up like the Traitor if he hadn't met the rest of the party.
** The traitor [[spoiler:[[RedemptionEqualsDeath sacrificing himself to save the rest of the Phantom Thieves]] from his Cognitive Self and the horde of Shadows it brings by locking himself inside the engine room in a last attempt at redemption, entrusting the Thieves to carry out his last wish of bringing Shido down.]] As if that wasn't enough, [[spoiler:The Justice Confidant link hits rank 10 during this scene.]] Ouch.
** Quite a few lines that The Traitor said during the game was ''much'' HarsherInHindsight once you know the full story.
--->'''The Traitor''': (To Phantom) I wish I could've met you a few years earlier...
** [[spoiler:While it is possibly justified the fact that he is the traitor and more of a temporarily party member, though it was looking like he was genuinely ready to turn down to a path of redemption or at least face his crimes with some dignity, the fact that Goro barely gets mentioned much at all after his apparent death and character arc just seems sad.]]
* Poor Shiho. She may be a side character, but just imagine her situation. One of your teachers, an authority figure you should be able to trust, is a sexual predator who has been targeting your best friend, and when she denies his advances, he ''targets you instead''. And then it gets so bad you think that the only way out of this is to [[DrivenToSuicide kill yourself]].
** Not to mention that, upon eavesdropping on a conversation she has with Ann, she was one of the few people in the beginning who actually felt sorry for the Protagonist and his situation.
* At the end of Futaba's dungeon, where you fight [[spoiler:her interpretation of her mother's feelings (who blamed Futaba for her death), after you defeat the boss, her mother's ''real'' feelings appear before her one last time, and they share a heartwarming talk and a tearful goodbye, declaring their love to each other.]]
* [[spoiler:Kunizaku Okumura's death]]. Made worse because not only he is much more of an AntiVillain than the other targets thus far, but he [[spoiler:''dies on live television'' via BodyHorror for attempting to reveal other members of TheConspiracy]], all while poor Haru watches.
** What was the treasure of his Palace? The source of his distortion? [[spoiler:A simple toy model kit that he wanted when he was a child, but could never have due to the poor financial situation his family was in. That was what drove his greed so wild.]]
* Morgana's [[spoiler:DisneyDeath, with him seemingly disappearing together with the other world in the true ending. The Thieves desperately begged him to stay as he slowly DisappearsIntoLight. Thankfully, he returns.]]
* After the final battle, Sae talks with the protagonist. [[spoiler:In order to keep Shido in prison and ensure that those in power don't try to get the Thieves arrested, the Protagonist has to turn themselves in the leader of the Thieves in order to give testimony. However, due to the Protagonist's prior record, he'll definitely be punished and sent to juvenile hall. Learning that after everything you've done to save the world, that NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished once again is heartbreaking. It all ends well when Sae and the Phantom Thieves find the woman the Protagonist protected from Shido and get her help in expunging most of his record, but it's still tragic while it lasts.]]
** Afterwards, you can go on a Christmas date with your LoveInterest. However, despite being heartwarming, it's all underscored by the idea that [[spoiler:it could be the last time they could ever be alone together for a long time.]] A similar treatment applies during [[spoiler:your party with Sojiro and Futaba if you remain single.]]
*** To add on top of that, you try to [[spoiler:attempt to make sure that your date doesn't know about you turning yourself in to protect them. However, they start picking up on this and they end up going home worried anyway. Ann, in particular, will know you're hiding something, and leave both worried and upset with you, yet [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim there's no option to tell her what's going on so she won't try and stop you]].]]
* Just like in ''Persona 4 Golden'', you are punished for dating multiple girls, this time by them finding out about your infidelity. All of them show up at the cafe the day after Valentine's Day and (rightfully) beat the shit out of you, except for Futaba who is absolutely ''[[HeroicBSOD heartbroken]]'' [[YourCheatingHeart that you cheated on her]] and when she begins to describe the present she made you for Valentine's Day, [[TryingNotToCry she's openly trying to stop herself from crying]]. Well done, YouBastard. [[spoiler:By the way, that's the only difference between her and the other [[WomanScorned Women Scorned]]-- she calms down enough to flash a PsychoticSmirk and [[TranquilFury happily joins the rest in kicking your unfaithful ass]]]].
** On the other end, Hifumi's Valentine's Date, should the protagonist have been faithful, still is rather bittersweet. [[spoiler:She takes the news that the protagonist is moving back home in the Spring remarkably worse than the other Love Interests. By the end of the date, she's trying her best not to cry]].
* The introduction of Ms. Kawakami as a confidant is almost entirely PlayedForLaughs, as three horny teenagers decide to hire a maid and it turns out to be her. But as early as the second confidant rank it becomes painfully apparent that she is completely overworked. Not helping is the degrading vibe that surrounds the whole maid thing. It wouldn't be so bad if Ms. Kawakami showed that she liked her job, but it's obvious she doesn't. And like many confidant/social link levels, it gets worse before it gets better.
** Later into the confidant, [[spoiler:she reveals that the reason she's so overworked is because the parents of a former student who died under her care have been guilt tripping her into giving them [[BlackmailIsSuchAnUglyWord "apology" money]]. A few ranks afterward, she ends up in the hospital due to being overworked to sickness, and while visiting her, her blackmailers show up in order to shake her down in person. In the end, despite the Protagonist's attempts to defend her, Ms. Kawakami resigns herself to promising to make the next payment.]]
* Watching the Phantom Thieves [[spoiler:disappear one by one in Yaldabaoth's world because nobody believes the Phantom Thieves truly exist. All it took for the general public to no longer believe the Phantom Thieves existed was just a few research papers explaining how their targets had changes of heart (although admittedly it's implied Yaldabaoth was exerting full-scale MoreThanMindControl at that point). It gets even worse when we're shown the Phan-site tracker plummet down to 0%.]]
** [[spoiler:It can't be understated just how intense this scene is. The group isn't just dying, they are slowly watching themselves and each other fade out of existence without any way of stopping it. The Phantom Thieves that have faced death up until now with a great degree of courage are now completely breaking down on both an emotional and physical level, the thought of triumphing over their foe not even close to their mind. Their responses range from such pleasant actions as screaming in agony all the way to shocked denial, the raw emotion being hammered in with every shot. The facial expressions and voice acting on display in this scene are absolutely '''chilling''', as is the sentiment that this is all because no one even believes they exist.]]
** [[spoiler:And when we see the Phantom Thieves are alright in the Velvet Room, all of them are so traumatized by what happened that their rebellious spirit is throughly beaten out of them. They sit in their cells, wondering if they were wrong to try and make a difference, until [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Joker comes and reignites their rebellious spirit.]]]]
* When Sojiro [[spoiler:continues to press Futaba to tell him why she has a Phantom Thieves calling card, the poor girl is panicking so much, she just breaks down and starts crying. Those who have crippling social anxiety to the point they shut down when under pressure like Futaba can certainly relate to the poor girl's situation.]]
** Hell, ''Sojiro's'' reaction is heartbreaking. [[spoiler:He just sounds so utterly ''betrayed'', especially since the Thieves have been framed for murder (and had a ''quarter-million-dollar bounty'' put on their heads) at that point and that a card in Futaba's possession means that either she had her heart stolen, and ''hid that fact'' to protect the Thieves, or is an ally of them and was holding onto that for safekeeping. Either way, the man is ''very'' upset and scared, and obviously panicking a little. Thankfully, it's smoothed over when Joker comes clean and Sojiro realizes from knowing Joker that the Thieves would never kill someone intentionally, and they're responsible for saving Futaba from her suicidal impulses.]]
* On the subject of Sojiro, though, his rank 9 Confidant is a ''much happier'' kind of Tearjerking. [[spoiler:Joker and Futaba were a little bit late in changing her uncle's heart, and social services shows up at Leblanc. It initially seems like a nightmare scenario (Joker being accused of violence ''again'', and Sojiro being accused of abusing Futaba)... however, the lead investigator is a very reasonable sort, and is absolutely willing to listen to Joker and Futaba refute the claims. This caps off with Futaba openly stating she's happy living with her ''dad''... calling Sojiro dad for the first time. As Sojiro tries to avoid dropping dead from joy, the interview closes on a huge positive note, with the investigator noting that he'll recommend to the court that further follow-ups for ''both'' kids aren't necessary. After the investigators leave, Sojiro is struggling to maintain his composure and notes that it's not just Futaba who's a great kid - there's someone else living under this roof who's important too.]] Needless to say, this is all very likely to wring the tears out of anyone who's had to deal with child services before, is ''the'' moment Joker, Sojiro and Futaba really become a family for real, and doubles as one of the game's absolute ''crowning'' [[Persona5/CrowningMomentsOfHeartwarming moments of heartwarming]].
** There's also a moment between sad and joyful tears a bit earlier: [[spoiler:when Futaba talks about how Wakaba viewed Sojiro, the way Futaba talks about how often and passionately Wakaba mentioned him makes it pretty clear that Wakaba actually did have a thing for Sojiro (to the point that even Futaba could see it), and the only reason that Sojiro isn't Futaba's full-blown stepfather-through-marriage is that Wakaba was just never given time to pursue it. It's pretty clear that, for all intents and purposes, Futaba considers Sojiro her dad because her mother cared about him that much, and that's more than enough by itself for Futaba.]]
* Many people gloss over another point. [[spoiler:Imagine having your identity stolen, your assistant torn apart and forced to work against their goals, and the person you were tasked to help being led astray and unable to do anything about it. That's Igor's point of view in a nutshell.]]
* When looked at in detail, 'Beneath the Mask' is actually quite a depressing song. It seems like it's being sung from Joker's perspective, basically saying he's unable to live his life without the ability to hide his true self.
* This one line spoken by Joker in the manga anthology can hit a little too close to home for some.
-->Joker: Give them one reason to distrust you, and it's all over. That's how it is, especially with adults.
* Yusuke mentions that he's basically an outcast at his own school. While the situation by itself is enough of a TearJerker to start with, it gets even worse once you remember from a meta standpoint that Hifumi, who attends the same high school, was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen supposed to have been one of the Phantom Thieves.]] So along with losing another party member, Yusuke himself lost someone to keep him company at school.
* The end of the game. Just before [[spoiler:the Protagonist leaves to go home]], he has one last talk with Sojiro. When he leaves, you can see Sojiro removing his glasses [[spoiler:wiping tears from his eyes]].
* Ryuji's [[spoiler:apparent HeroicSacrifice after beating Shido's Palace. After worrying about his broken leg for so long and resolving to train and get back in shape, he puts it to good use and sprints to a mechanism that frees a lifeboat, saving everyone in the party. Unfortunately, before he can join them, a massive explosion overtakes the ship, apparently killing him. Everyone is weighed down heavily when they get back to the real world, and Ann in particular is completely inconsolable. He shows up fine a few minutes later, completely unaware it looked like he died, and [[AngerBornOfWorry gets his ass kicked after laughing at Ann for crying]], but it's incredibly painful while it lasts]].
* A meta-example. Chihaya's seiyuu Creator/MiyuMatsuki tragically and untimely passed away in October 2015. Since the game came out in Japan a year later, this is the last time that her voice will be heard in a new project. For seiyuu fans and those who have been following Matsuki's voice work for years, it can be very saddening to accept that Chihaya is her final role and after this game there will be no more projects with her voice. Will only be made worse if Chihaya returns in any spin-offs and will most likely have [[TheOtherDarrin a new voice actress]].
* When you're infiltrating Madarame's Palace and interact with the distorted paintings, each of the party members will sadly note on how it's a depiction of another pupil that Madarame has used and thrown away. However, if you look at the paintings while Yusuke is in your party, he'll have a sad note on most of the paintings, who the people were and even on his own painting. It truly puts into perspective how many lives Yusuke has seen ruined by his teacher, which he notes them all with a sad look on his face. The most jarring is when he sees his own painting in Madarame's gallery and his comments on it.
--> Yusuke: "Is this...me...?"
--> Ann: "Fox..."
--> Yusuke: "So this is how Madarame views me...? How preposterous..."
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