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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors leave the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood.]]
** If Otacon wasn't TheWoobie already, he damn sure is now.
** Worse in the fact that Otacon, unlike most others in the series, was never a soldier or a fighter. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He Emma's death. Hal cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors leave the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood.]]
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If Otacon wasn't TheWoobie already, he damn sure is now.
** Not to mention Otacon is forced to leave her dead body behind on the Big Shell, which is going to flood.
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Worse in is the fact that Otacon, unlike most others in the series, was never a soldier or a fighter. He was just in at the wrong place at the wrong time.



** Even worse is the fact that [[spoiler: her final request to be called by her birth name goes unfulfilled.]]

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** Even worse is the fact that [[spoiler: her final request to be called by her birth name goes unfulfilled.]]



** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he finally sees her again, [[spoiler:she is stabbed by Vamp just before she reaches him and [[DiedInYourArmsTonight dies in his arms]].]]

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** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, years due to tragic and terrible circumstances, and then when he finally sees her again, [[spoiler:she she is stabbed by Vamp just before she reaches him and [[DiedInYourArmsTonight dies in his arms]].]]



* Raiden's temporary HeroicBSOD moment after [[spoiler:being subjected to a MindScrew from GW]].
--> '''Raiden''': Does [[spoiler:Rose]] exist...?

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* Raiden's temporary HeroicBSOD moment after [[spoiler:being being subjected to a MindScrew from GW]].
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--> '''Raiden''': Does [[spoiler:Rose]] Rose exist...?



-->'''Raiden''': [[spoiler:What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...]]
* Raiden's life in a nutshell. [[spoiler:Forced to be ChildSoldier and learn how to kill by Solidus, ended up taken in by The Patriots and later learn in-game that his life is just a fabrication, controlled by unknown conspirator like a puppet]].
* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Raiden goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], Snake and Otacon have raised her themselves]].
* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps the MOST tragic villain from the entire Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution, nor any signs of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to try to take on the world.
** Nearly every scene with her it it can make even the most hardened of players look at her with pity. It's clear that she despises war, and at every turn, she's wishing for death, only to be endlessly disappointed.
** The scene where [[spoiler: a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover.]] The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for the torture to end.
** When it's revealed that [[spoiler: nearly everything she's fought for was a lie]], and that [[spoiler: she's been played by the very people responsible for her current predicament]], it's slightly gut wrenching to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].
** At least [[spoiler: Olga died with hopes that her child would be safe]]. The same can't be said for Fortune, [[spoiler: since she no longer has anyone to lose, as she thinks Vamp is dead]].

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-->'''Raiden''': [[spoiler:What What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...]]
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* Raiden's life in a nutshell. [[spoiler:Forced Forced to be ChildSoldier and learn how to kill by Solidus, ended up taken in by The Patriots and later learn in-game that his life is just a fabrication, controlled by an unknown conspirator like a puppet]].
puppet.
* Olga's story is also pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn baby away and forced her to secretly take down kill her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, survive because they would've killed her child if she failed, even at the cost of her own life]]. life. Luckily, [[spoiler: Raiden goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], Snake she's a happy and Otacon have raised her themselves]].
well-adjusted girl.
* Fortune has also proven to may very well be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps the MOST tragic villain most {{tragic villain}} from the entire Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution, nor any signs of hope. The woman's ''Metal Gear'' series. She's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, loved and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, Dolph-Jackson, her tragedy began since with the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], father, followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune soon after, and finally, she suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. Losses miscarriage. A TraumaCongaLine like those that would drive anyone insane enough to try to take on the world.
** Nearly every scene with her it it can make even the most hardened of players look at her with pity. It's clear that she despises war, and at every turn, [[DeathSeeker she's wishing for death, death]], only to be endlessly disappointed.
** The scene where [[spoiler: a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest person she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover.]] lover. The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, death and wishes for the torture to end.
** When And then it's revealed that [[spoiler: nearly everything she's fought for was a lie]], lie and that [[spoiler: she's been nothing but an UnwittingPawn played by the very people responsible for her current predicament]], it's slightly gut wrenching to hear predicament. The way she screams in horror and despair as it all sinks in for her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while is gut-wrenching, made worse by how she's slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].wound.
** At Worst of all, she never gets any kind of payback. Olga at least [[spoiler: Olga died with the hopes that her child would be safe]]. safely found. The same can't be said for Fortune, [[spoiler: since she no longer has anyone Fortune.
** Fortune's final action involves her shielding Snake and Raiden from a missile assault before collapsing
to lose, as she thinks Vamp is dead]].the ground. She declares herself her father's daughter before choking on her own blood.



* Solidus. Sure, you're a merciless former warlord who used child soldiers to wage war - [[spoiler: just like dear old Dad]] - but your entire existence has been predetermined by people you've likely never met, don't know, and who handed you down orders from on high. They made you a monster. They determined that you - a Son of Big Boss, the supposed masterpiece of Les Enfants Terrible - would be that murderer, that warlord, that you would be President of the supposed free world. And when you realise all this, when you wanted to determine your own fate and break away from their designs for you... You eventually find out that they've planned even ''that'', and ''used your own revolution'' to ''make an example of you''.

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* Solidus. Sure, you're a merciless former warlord who used child soldiers to wage war - [[spoiler: just like dear old Dad]] Dad - but your entire existence has been predetermined by people you've likely never met, don't know, and who handed you down orders from on high. They made you a monster. They determined that you - a Son of Big Boss, the supposed masterpiece of Les Enfants Terrible - would be that murderer, that warlord, that you would be President of the supposed free world. And when you realise realize all this, when you wanted to determine your own fate and break away from their designs for you... You eventually find out that they've planned even ''that'', and ''used your own revolution'' to ''make an example of you''.
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[[caption-width-right:350:"''Hal...I miss you...I miss you...''"]]

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* Stillman's confession about his leg, sure, the whole [[{{Narm}} "I killed Mah soul", "This is the only way I can defuse Mah own sins" ruined it]], but imagine having to hide behind a fake injury, all the while, wrack with regret over a bombing that was entirely your fault.

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* Stillman's confession about his leg, sure, the whole [[{{Narm}} "I killed Mah soul", "This is the only way I can defuse Mah own sins" ruined it]], but imagine leg. Imagine having to hide behind a fake injury, all the while, wrack while wracked with regret over a bombing that was entirely your fault.
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** Not even just that, but his final moments too: defeated by his own former protege, and dying right next to the icon of liberty and freedom that he fought so hard to reclaim from the Patriots, knowing now that his dream has died with him

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** Not even just that, but his final moments too: defeated by his own former protege, and dying right next to the icon of liberty and freedom that he fought so hard to reclaim from the Patriots, knowing now that his dream has died with himhim.
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Minor lore correction, Raiden was the one who rescued Sunny, not Snake. Assuming I'm remembering that right and the MG Wiki is correct, anyway.


* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Snake goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], he and Otacon have raised her themselves]].

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* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Snake Raiden goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], he Snake and Otacon have raised her themselves]].
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* Solidus. Sure, you're a merciless former warlord who used child soldiers to wage war - [[spoiler: just like dear old Dad]] - but your entire existence has been predetermined by people you've likely never met, don't know, and who handed you down orders from on high. They made you a monster. They determined that you - a Son of Big Boss, the supposed masterpiece of Les Enfants Terrible - would be that murderer, that warlord, that you would be President of the supposed free world. And when you realise all this, when you wanted to determine your own fate and break away from their designs for you... You eventually find out that they've planned even ''that'', and ''used your own revolution'' to ''make an example of you''.

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* Solidus. Sure, you're a merciless former warlord who used child soldiers to wage war - [[spoiler: just like dear old Dad]] - but your entire existence has been predetermined by people you've likely never met, don't know, and who handed you down orders from on high. They made you a monster. They determined that you - a Son of Big Boss, the supposed masterpiece of Les Enfants Terrible - would be that murderer, that warlord, that you would be President of the supposed free world. And when you realise all this, when you wanted to determine your own fate and break away from their designs for you... You eventually find out that they've planned even ''that'', and ''used your own revolution'' to ''make an example of you''.you''.
** Not even just that, but his final moments too: defeated by his own former protege, and dying right next to the icon of liberty and freedom that he fought so hard to reclaim from the Patriots, knowing now that his dream has died with him
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** Even worse is the fact that [[spoiler: her final request to be called by her birth name goes unfulfilled.]]
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** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood. When the camera shows the area when the flooding is happening, though, I don't think I saw her body...]]

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** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood. When the camera shows the area when the flooding is happening, though, I don't think I saw her body...]]
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*Raiden's life in a nutshell. [[spoiler:Forced to be ChildSoldier and learn how to kill by Solidus, ended up taken in by The Patriots and later learn in-game that his life is just a fabrication, controlled by unknown conspirator like a puppet]].
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** Emma's parrot exclaiming "I miss you, Hal!"
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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps THE most tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution nor any means of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.

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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps THE most the MOST tragic villain from the entire Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution retribution, nor any means signs of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to try to take on the world.



** When it's revealed that [[spoiler: nearly everything she's fought for was a lie]], and that [[spoiler: she's been played by the very people responsible for her current predicament,]] it's slightly gut wrenching to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].
** At least [[spoiler: Olga died with hopes that her child would be safe]]. The same can't be said for Fortune [[spoiler: since she no longer has anyone to lose]].

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** When it's revealed that [[spoiler: nearly everything she's fought for was a lie]], and that [[spoiler: she's been played by the very people responsible for her current predicament,]] predicament]], it's slightly gut wrenching to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].
** At least [[spoiler: Olga died with hopes that her child would be safe]]. The same can't be said for Fortune Fortune, [[spoiler: since she no longer has anyone to lose]].lose, as she thinks Vamp is dead]].
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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps THE most tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution nor any means of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: (not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.

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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic figure; perhaps THE most tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution nor any means of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: (not not knowing the man was cheating on his wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.



** The scene where a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover. The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for this torture to end.

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** The scene where [[spoiler: a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover. lover.]] The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for this the torture to end.

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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic character; perhaps the MOST tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. Her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she looked up to him, not knowing the man was cheating on his wife, her mother), followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then her mother committed suicide afterwards. The final nail on the coffin, however, is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of both her and her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.
** Nearly every scene with her it it can make even the most hardened of players look on her with pity. It's clear that she despises war, and at every turn, she's wishing for death, only to be endlessly disappointed.
** The scene where a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover. The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for the easy way out, rather than endure all this torture.
** When it's revealed that nearly everything she's fought for was a lie, and that she's been played by the very people whom were responsible for the deaths of her loved ones, it's heartbreaking to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].

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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic character; figure; perhaps the MOST THE most tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution.retribution nor any means of hope. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. Her For Helena Dolph Jackson, her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she looked up to him, not respected him as a soldier, [[spoiler: (not knowing the man was cheating on his wife, her mother), wife/her mother)]], followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then Then, her mother committed suicide afterwards. The afterwards; but the final nail on the coffin, however, coffin is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of both her and her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.
** Nearly every scene with her it it can make even the most hardened of players look on at her with pity. It's clear that she despises war, and at every turn, she's wishing for death, only to be endlessly disappointed.
** The scene where a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover. The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for the easy way out, rather than endure all this torture.
torture to end.
** When it's revealed that [[spoiler: nearly everything she's fought for was a lie, lie]], and that [[spoiler: she's been played by the very people whom were responsible for the deaths of her loved ones, current predicament,]] it's heartbreaking slightly gut wrenching to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]]. wound]].
** At least [[spoiler: Olga died with hopes that her child would be safe]]. The same can't be said for Fortune [[spoiler: since she no longer has anyone to lose]].
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* Fortune has also proven to be QUITE the tragic character; perhaps the MOST tragic villain from the Metal Gear series, as she's never found any form of retribution. The woman's lost nearly everyone she's ever loved, and can't join them in death. Her tragedy began since the death of her father (made more tragic considering the way she looked up to him, not knowing the man was cheating on his wife, her mother), followed by her husband being thrown in prison for crimes he didn't commit, where he later died. Then her mother committed suicide afterwards. The final nail on the coffin, however, is when Fortune suffers a miscarriage with her unborn baby. The child of both her and her deceased husband. Losses like those would drive anyone insane enough to take on the world.
** Nearly every scene with her it it can make even the most hardened of players look on her with pity. It's clear that she despises war, and at every turn, she's wishing for death, only to be endlessly disappointed.
** The scene where a bullet meant for her hits Vamp instead, the closest she's ever had to a friend, and even a possible lover. The way she sobs and mourns shows just how much she's seen death, and wishes for the easy way out, rather than endure all this torture.
** When it's revealed that nearly everything she's fought for was a lie, and that she's been played by the very people whom were responsible for the deaths of her loved ones, it's heartbreaking to hear her cry in disbelief [[spoiler: while slowly dying from Ocelot's gunshot wound]].
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* Stillman's confession about his leg, sure, the whole [[{{Narm}} "I killed Mah soul", "This is the only way I can defuse Mah own sins" ruined it]], but imagine having to hide behind a fake injury, all the while, wrack with regret over a bombing that was entirely your fault.

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* Stillman's confession about his leg, sure, the whole [[{{Narm}} "I killed Mah soul", "This is the only way I can defuse Mah own sins" ruined it]], but imagine having to hide behind a fake injury, all the while, wrack with regret over a bombing that was entirely your fault.fault.
* Solidus. Sure, you're a merciless former warlord who used child soldiers to wage war - [[spoiler: just like dear old Dad]] - but your entire existence has been predetermined by people you've likely never met, don't know, and who handed you down orders from on high. They made you a monster. They determined that you - a Son of Big Boss, the supposed masterpiece of Les Enfants Terrible - would be that murderer, that warlord, that you would be President of the supposed free world. And when you realise all this, when you wanted to determine your own fate and break away from their designs for you... You eventually find out that they've planned even ''that'', and ''used your own revolution'' to ''make an example of you''.
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If possible, would it be fair to add [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Joseph]] [[Pantheon/PersonalityLesserGods Joestar]], [[Pantheon/VillainsGreaterGods Dio]] [[Pantheon/HatredGreaterGods Brando]], [[Pantheon/Combat Jotaro Kujo]], [[Manga/TokyoGhoul Ken]] [[Pantheon/Emotion Kaneki]]

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If possible, would it be fair to add [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Joseph]] [[Pantheon/PersonalityLesserGods Joestar]], [[Pantheon/VillainsGreaterGods Dio]] [[Pantheon/HatredGreaterGods Brando]], [[Pantheon/Combat Jotaro Kujo]], [[Manga/TokyoGhoul Ken]] [[Pantheon/Emotion Kaneki]]
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** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.]]
* Raiden's temporary HeroicBSOD moment after being subjected to MindScrew by GW.
--> '''Raiden''': Does Rose exist...?

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** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he finally sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.is stabbed by Vamp just before she reaches him and [[DiedInYourArmsTonight dies in his arms]].]]
* Raiden's temporary HeroicBSOD moment after being [[spoiler:being subjected to a MindScrew by GW.
from GW]].
--> '''Raiden''': Does Rose [[spoiler:Rose]] exist...?



-->'''Raiden''': What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...

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-->'''Raiden''': What [[spoiler:What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...]]
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* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Snake goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], he and Otacon have raised her themselves]].

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* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Snake goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], he and Otacon have raised her themselves]].themselves]].
* Stillman's confession about his leg, sure, the whole [[{{Narm}} "I killed Mah soul", "This is the only way I can defuse Mah own sins" ruined it]], but imagine having to hide behind a fake injury, all the while, wrack with regret over a bombing that was entirely your fault.
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-->'''Raiden''': What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...

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-->'''Raiden''': What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...be...
* Olga's story is pretty sad. [[spoiler: The Patriots took her newborn and forced her to secretly take down her comrades in order to help Raiden survive, otherwise they'd kill the baby, even at the cost of her own life]]. Luckily, [[spoiler: Snake goes to save the baby after Solidus is defeated, and by [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots five years later]], he and Otacon have raised her themselves]].
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** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.]]

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** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.]]]]
* Raiden's temporary HeroicBSOD moment after being subjected to MindScrew by GW.
--> '''Raiden''': Does Rose exist...?
-->'''Snake''': Don't be weird. She's your --
-->'''Raiden''': What if I've never really met her...? If the Colonel is something that I partly dreamt up, then... everything I remember about her could be...
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-->'''Emma''': We were...back then.

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-->'''Emma''': We were... back then.
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors leeave the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors leeave leave the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors left the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors left leeave the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
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--> '''Emma''': I remembered my brother giving me a piggyback ride. I was sleeping with my ear against his back. I could hear his heartbeat.\\
'''Raiden''': Sounds like you two were close.\\
'''Emma''': We were...back then.

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--> '''Emma''': I remembered my brother giving me a piggyback ride. I was sleeping with my ear against his back. I could hear his heartbeat.\\
'''Raiden''':
heartbeat.
-->'''Raiden''':
Sounds like you two were close.\\
'''Emma''':
close.
-->'''Emma''':
We were...back then.
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors left the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood. When the camera shows the area when the flooding is happening, though, I don't think I saw her body...]]
** If Otacon wasn't TheWoobie already, he damn sure is now.
** Worse in the fact that Otacon, unlike most others in the series, was never a soldier or a fighter. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
*** Any time Otacon cries is made even worse by the acting. Unlike almost any other performance, it actually sounds like someone breaking down. It's not a single tear, it's not controlled sobbing, it's wailing and screaming and crying like a child. Christopher Randolph puts everything into the scenes where he has to cry, and it is heartbreaking.
* This part:
--> '''Emma''': I remembered my brother giving me a piggyback ride. I was sleeping with my ear against his back. I could hear his heartbeat.\\
'''Raiden''': Sounds like you two were close.\\
'''Emma''': We were...back then.
** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.]]

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[[redirect:TearJerker/MetalGear]]* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'' where Otacon's [[spoiler:younger sister Emma dies. He cries and wails in misery, unable to focus on the mission at hand. Snake then fills his heart with courage once more in a [[ManHug brotherly embrace]]. As the two warriors left the hacker, Emma's parrot mimics her, saying that she missed him, sending him once more into a tide of grief. The whole sequence is heartrending.]]
** Not to mention Otacon has to decide [[spoiler: to leave her corpse on the Big Shell, which is going to flood. When the camera shows the area when the flooding is happening, though, I don't think I saw her body...]]
** If Otacon wasn't TheWoobie already, he damn sure is now.
** Worse in the fact that Otacon, unlike most others in the series, was never a soldier or a fighter. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
*** Any time Otacon cries is made even worse by the acting. Unlike almost any other performance, it actually sounds like someone breaking down. It's not a single tear, it's not controlled sobbing, it's wailing and screaming and crying like a child. Christopher Randolph puts everything into the scenes where he has to cry, and it is heartbreaking.
* This part:
--> '''Emma''': I remembered my brother giving me a piggyback ride. I was sleeping with my ear against his back. I could hear his heartbeat.\\
'''Raiden''': Sounds like you two were close.\\
'''Emma''': We were...back then.
** It also doesn't help the fact that Emma and Otacon hadn't seen each other in years, and then when he sees her again, [[spoiler:she dies.]]

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