History TearJerker / MegaMan

30th Dec '17 9:45:07 PM DecisiveShark
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* Almost since day one, the franchise has been exploring things like violence and war in rather dark, adult ways. Classic Megaman has been led to question his motives at least twice, and even once attempted to outright murder Dr. Wily in cold blood as a result. Then there's the X series, where the ending of the first game gives a grim outlook for peace in the future and later titles see X and Zero forced to turn on each other. Of course, the reploids fought in the X series are mostly innocent, but once infected by the Maverick virus, there's simply no way to stop their destructive rampage than to kill them.
28th Nov '17 9:46:37 AM RAlexa21th
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* A common fan theory for how the series ultimately ends is that [[spoiler:Zero kills off the main cast]].
** A peaceful, old-age ending is almost more tragic. Imagine a bunch of semi-sentient beings just... falling into disrepair and ceasing to function, all because their creator has died and is no longer there to keep them up. These are beings who canonically and perpetually have the mindsets of children, and therefore will have only a vague idea of what's happening to them. That's not even accounting for Protoman's apparent fate resulting from his unstable core...
** Another possibility is Mega Man dying at the hands of his past self late in his life, when he gets kidnapped by a time-traveling Wily and turned into Quint from the Game Boy version of ''VideoGame/MegaManII''. Assuming YouCantFightFate, this means that at some point in the future, no matter what he does or how hard he fights against Wily, at some point Wily ''will'' win against Mega Man. But he won't destroy or scrap him. No, he'll [[FateWorseThanDeath reprogram him to fight for Wily]]. He will then go back to the past, only to die at the hands of his "younger" self.
6th Nov '17 11:06:02 PM lalalei2001
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** That, or Mega Man ends up dying at the hands of his past self late in his life, when he gets kidnapped by a time-traveling Wily and turned into Quint, from the Game Boy version of ''VideoGame/MegaManII''. Assuming YouCantFightFate, this means that at some point in the future, no matter what he does or how hard he fights against Wily, at some point Wily ''will'' win against Mega Man. But he won't destroy or scrap him. No, he'll [[FateWorseThanDeath reprogram him to fight for Wily]]. He will then go back to the past, only to die at the hands of his "younger" self.

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** That, or Another possibility is Mega Man ends up dying at the hands of his past self late in his life, when he gets kidnapped by a time-traveling Wily and turned into Quint, Quint from the Game Boy version of ''VideoGame/MegaManII''. Assuming YouCantFightFate, this means that at some point in the future, no matter what he does or how hard he fights against Wily, at some point Wily ''will'' win against Mega Man. But he won't destroy or scrap him. No, he'll [[FateWorseThanDeath reprogram him to fight for Wily]]. He will then go back to the past, only to die at the hands of his "younger" self.
24th Oct '17 1:14:22 PM lalalei2001
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* It's never been depicted in-canon, but you ''know'' how the series ''has'' to end, don't you?
** If you're talking about ''that'' ending [[spoiler:where Zero kills off the main cast]], it was officially {{Jossed}} by Inafune; he stated that it's not in Zero's character to do such a thing. [[spoiler:He seems to have forgotten about Maverick Zero.]]
** Still doesn't change the fact that SOMETHING happens to them. And in the case of the 'bots, the peaceful, old-age ending is almost more tragic. Imagine a bunch of semi-sentient beings just... falling into disrepair and ceasing to function, all because their creator has died and is no longer there to keep them up. These are beings who canonically and perpetually have the mindsets of children, and therefore will have only a vague idea of what's happening to them. That's not even accounting for Protoman's apparent fate resulting from his unstable core...
** That, or he ends up dying at the hands of his past self late in his life, when he gets kidnapped by a time-traveling Wily and turned into Quint, from the Game Boy version of ''VideoGame/MegaManII''. Assuming YouCantFightFate, this means that at some point in the future, no matter what he does or how hard he fights against Wily, at some point Wily ''will'' win against Mega Man. But he won't destroy or scrap him. No, he'll [[FateWorseThanDeath reprogram him to fight for Wily]]. He will then go back to the past, only to die at the hands of his "younger" self.

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* It's never been depicted in-canon, but you ''know'' A common fan theory for how the series ''has'' to end, don't you?
** If you're talking about ''that'' ending [[spoiler:where Zero
ultimately ends is that [[spoiler:Zero kills off the main cast]], it was officially {{Jossed}} by Inafune; he stated that it's not in Zero's character to do such a thing. [[spoiler:He seems to have forgotten about Maverick Zero.]]
cast]].
** Still doesn't change the fact that SOMETHING happens to them. And in the case of the 'bots, the A peaceful, old-age ending is almost more tragic. Imagine a bunch of semi-sentient beings just... falling into disrepair and ceasing to function, all because their creator has died and is no longer there to keep them up. These are beings who canonically and perpetually have the mindsets of children, and therefore will have only a vague idea of what's happening to them. That's not even accounting for Protoman's apparent fate resulting from his unstable core...
** That, or he Mega Man ends up dying at the hands of his past self late in his life, when he gets kidnapped by a time-traveling Wily and turned into Quint, from the Game Boy version of ''VideoGame/MegaManII''. Assuming YouCantFightFate, this means that at some point in the future, no matter what he does or how hard he fights against Wily, at some point Wily ''will'' win against Mega Man. But he won't destroy or scrap him. No, he'll [[FateWorseThanDeath reprogram him to fight for Wily]]. He will then go back to the past, only to die at the hands of his "younger" self.
24th Sep '17 6:53:45 PM GF93
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* The scene in Issue 44 where [[spoiler: Spark Man [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/megaman/images/9/9a/HANDS.png/revision/latest?cb=20141229165504 breaks down in tears]] over his fallen brothers]] is just downright heartwrenching. Even worse is how it leads into Spark Man confronting Mega Man over [[spoiler: him destroying his brothers]]- by this point, he's reduced to attacking him a blind rage, screaming at him hysterically and even threatening to ''murder his family'' out of sheer grief-induced madness.

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* The scene in Issue 44 where [[spoiler: Spark Man [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/megaman/images/9/9a/HANDS.png/revision/latest?cb=20141229165504 breaks down in tears]] over his fallen brothers]] is just downright heartwrenching. Even worse is how it leads into Spark Man confronting Mega Man over [[spoiler: him destroying his brothers]]- brothers]]-- by this point, he's reduced to attacking him a blind rage, screaming at him hysterically and even threatening to ''murder his family'' out of sheer grief-induced madness.



** And then when Mega Man does put him down, Spark Man [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone tearfully apologises]] and assures his opponent that he never would have hurt Roll or Doctor Light, stating that ''"no one should ever have to lose their siblings"''. And although Mega Man had every reason to still be angry with him, [[Heartwarming/MegaMan he stays with and comforts Spark Man as he dies]].

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** And then when Mega Man does put him down, Spark Man [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone tearfully apologises]] and assures his opponent that he never would have hurt Roll or Doctor Dr. Light, stating that ''"no one should ever have to lose their siblings"''. And although Mega Man had every reason to still be angry with him, [[Heartwarming/MegaMan he stays with and comforts Spark Man as he dies]].



** Similarly, Doctor Light's [[BrokenTears breakdown]] upon Mega Man returning home and finding out that Wily had betrayed Light and taken Gamma after threatening to murder Roll-
-->[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I just handed the most powerful piece of machinery in the world to a madman completely devoid of any scruples]]. But what else could I do? [[PapaWolf I couldn't let him hurt my children!]] I already lost ''[[FlawedPrototype one]]'' to him, I can't lose any more! No! I'll just lose my Robot Masters! And Gamma! And my designs! And my hopes and dreams! '''AND THE WORLD CAN PAY THE PRICE!''' ''(beat)'' ...[[EvilFormerFriend he was my friend]]. I trusted him. Because there is good in everyone. Isn't there? ''[[DespairEventHorizon Am I that deluded..?]]''

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** Similarly, Doctor Light's [[BrokenTears breakdown]] upon Mega Man returning home and finding out that Wily had betrayed Light and taken Gamma after threatening to murder Roll-
Roll--
-->[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone I just handed the most powerful piece of machinery in the world to a madman completely devoid of any scruples]]. But what else could I do? [[PapaWolf I couldn't let him hurt my children!]] I already lost ''[[FlawedPrototype one]]'' to him, I can't lose any more! No! I'll just lose my Robot Masters! And Gamma! And my designs! And my hopes and dreams! '''AND THE WORLD CAN PAY THE PRICE!''' ''(beat)'' ...(''beat'') ...[[EvilFormerFriend he was my friend]]. I trusted him. Because there is good in everyone. Isn't there? ''[[DespairEventHorizon Am I that deluded..?]]''



-->'''Doc Robot:''' ''(glitching through its multiple personalities)'' Please. Mercy. Please. Rebuild. Stop. IDIOT! Wily.

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-->'''Doc Robot:''' ''(glitching (''glitching through its multiple personalities)'' personalities'') Please. Mercy. Please. Rebuild. Stop. IDIOT! Wily.



--> '''Guts Man:''' ''[putting a hand on Rock's shoulder]'' You don't have to worry about it, tho'. You're Doctor Light's ''son''. That function lasts as long as he does, and then you become his legacy.
--> '''Rock:''' ''[knocking Guts's hand away]'' I'm not worried about '''''me!''''' I'm worried for '''''you''''' and '''''all''''' the Robot Masters! '''''Every''''' life is precious!

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--> '''Guts Man:''' ''[putting (''putting a hand on Rock's shoulder]'' shoulder'') You don't have to worry about it, tho'. You're Doctor Light's ''son''. That function lasts as long as he does, and then you become his legacy.
--> '''Rock:''' ''[knocking (''knocking Guts's hand away]'' away'') I'm not worried about '''''me!''''' I'm worried for '''''you''''' and '''''all''''' the Robot Masters! '''''Every''''' life is precious!



--> '''Rock:''' ''[on the verge of tears]'' That doesn't matter to me! I '''''HATED''''' fighting and damaging you!

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--> '''Rock:''' ''[on (''on the verge of tears]'' tears'') That doesn't matter to me! I '''''HATED''''' fighting and damaging you!
19th Sep '17 1:28:55 PM TheAwesomeHyperon
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** Though, to be fair, he isn't entirely wrong, even if Wily going to jail would have been the end of it, there's no guarantee that the events that followed wouldn't have happened anyway, as Wily could have possibly made more contingency plans in the events of his capture. Or not to mention, that it's possible that some people might be inspired by Wily to their own hand at world domination. And it's entirely possible that problems that occur in the X and Zero series would have occurred anyway but just from a different source.

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** Though, to be fair, [[spoiler: he isn't entirely wrong, even wrong. Even if Wily going to jail would have been the end of it, there's no guarantee that the events that followed wouldn't have happened anyway, as Wily could have possibly made more contingency plans in the events of his capture. Or not to mention, that it's possible that some people might be inspired by Wily to their own hand at world domination. And it's entirely possible that problems that occur in the X and Zero series would have occurred anyway but just from a different source. So in the end, even if Light didn't stick up for Wily, the world was doomed the moment Wily showed how even the most peaceful of technology can be misused.]]
19th Sep '17 1:25:08 PM TheAwesomeHyperon
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**Though, to be fair, he isn't entirely wrong, even if Wily going to jail would have been the end of it, there's no guarantee that the events that followed wouldn't have happened anyway, as Wily could have possibly made more contingency plans in the events of his capture. Or not to mention, that it's possible that some people might be inspired by Wily to their own hand at world domination. And it's entirely possible that problems that occur in the X and Zero series would have occurred anyway but just from a different source.
16th Jul '17 7:15:17 PM GMaster1991
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** Dr. Light sees [[spoiler: the entire timeline of the main Franchise/MegaMan continuity and laments that his contributions will lead to nothing but constant war, with future generation paying for his mistakes. He brushes this aside, believing that such things are inevitable and that there's nothing to fear as long as there people like Rock are around. The irony is that it ''is'' his fault, but not only because of what he built. As the backstories for ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' were fleshed out, it's revealed that many of the problems of those series are the result of ''Dr. Wily's'' inventions being misused. If Dr. Light hadn't stood up for Wily after the Ra-Moon incident, that would've been it. Wily would've been imprisoned, with no secret Robot Masters to bail him out. No Bass, no Eoboenza, no Zero. Even Xander Payne, who would eventually imprison and bankroll Wily as Mr. X following the events of VideoGame/MegaMan3 might've let him rot. Dr. Light doomed the world, not because of his genius, but because of his compassion.]]

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** Dr. Light sees [[spoiler: the entire timeline of the main Franchise/MegaMan continuity and laments that his contributions will lead to nothing but constant war, with future generation paying for his mistakes. He brushes this aside, believing that such things are inevitable and that there's nothing to fear as long as there people like Rock are around. The irony is that it ''is'' his fault, but not only because of what he built. As the backstories for ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' were fleshed out, it's revealed that many of the problems of those series are the result of ''Dr. Wily's'' inventions being misused. If Dr. Light hadn't stood up for Wily after the Ra-Moon incident, that would've been it. Wily would've been imprisoned, with no secret Robot Masters to bail him out. No Bass, no Eoboenza, Roboenza, no Zero. Even Xander Payne, who would eventually imprison and bankroll Wily as Mr. X following the events of VideoGame/MegaMan3 might've let him rot. Dr. Light doomed the world, not because of his genius, but because of his compassion.]]
26th Apr '17 3:19:01 PM GF93
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** Another was in the episode "Mega-Pinocchio". After believing he was turned into a human, Mega Man failed to stop Gutsman and Cutman, taking the blame for letting them get away. It was really Wily toying with his mind that made him hesitate, but Mega was unaware of this. He ended up talking to Dr. Light about it, which resulted in the following lines.

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** * Another was in the episode "Mega-Pinocchio". After believing he was turned into a human, Mega Man failed to stop Gutsman and Cutman, taking the blame for letting them get away. It was really Wily toying with his mind that made him hesitate, but Mega was unaware of this. He ended up talking to Dr. Light about it, which resulted in the following lines.



** After playing ''Mega Man 10'', the scene in "Robosaur Park" with Mega and Roll arguing over who should take the antidote becomes a lot sadder. In both scenarios, Roll gives the same reason that Mega Man should take it. She couldn't stop Wily. He could.

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** * After playing ''Mega Man 10'', the scene in "Robosaur Park" with Mega and Roll arguing over who should take the antidote becomes a lot sadder. In both scenarios, Roll gives the same reason that Mega Man should take it. She couldn't stop Wily. He could.



** [[spoiler:Wily's apology. He sounds ''sincere''.]]

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** * [[spoiler:Wily's apology. He sounds ''sincere''.]]



** How about [[spoiler:Fire Man's death?]]

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** * How about [[spoiler:Fire Man's death?]]



** [[spoiler:Wily's tormenting of Roll]].

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** * [[spoiler:Wily's tormenting of Roll]].



* Another one comes in the confrontation with Needle Man. After Mega Man breaks sequence a bit by copying Needle Cannon before beating the Master and tries to use it on him, Needle Man is not just angry, but ''mortified'' that he'd do that. When Rock insists that he doesn't want to hurt him or his brothers and asks why he doesn't just give up, we get the heartrending response; He simply can't. Needle Man deduces that Mega Man's vague programming of "help people" allows him to be more than what he was intended, while the 3 Masters have one very specific goal they don't have the leisure of defying without Copy Robot like the first generation of Masters did. Something Needle Man in particular very clearly doesn't like. The fight ends with Mega Man solemnly putting a Gemini Laser right between Needle Man's eyes. ''[[MercyKill At his]] [[TheMegas request.]]''
-->'''Needle Man:''' It's ''never'' about what we ''want''. We're just tools, kid. So do your job. Take the shot.

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* Another one comes in the confrontation with Needle Man. After Mega Man breaks sequence a bit by copying Needle Cannon before beating the Master and tries to use it on him, Needle Man is not just angry, but ''mortified'' that he'd do that. When Rock insists that he doesn't want to hurt him or his brothers and asks why he doesn't just give up, we get the heartrending response; He response-- he simply can't.''can't''. Needle Man deduces that Mega Man's vague programming of "help people" allows him to be more than what he was intended, while the 3 Masters have one very specific goal they don't have the leisure of defying without Copy Robot like the first generation of Masters did. Something Needle Man in particular very clearly doesn't like. The like--
-->'''Needle Man:''' You were built to "help people". You get a nice fuzzy definition to work within. ''We'' weren't given that! "Fight Mega Man, destroy Mega Man"... '''IT'S ALL WE'RE ''GOOD FOR!'''''
** After finally incapacitating the Robot Master, the
fight ends with Mega Man solemnly putting a Gemini Laser right between Needle Man's eyes. ''[[MercyKill ''[[Music/TheMegas At his]] [[TheMegas his request.]]''
-->'''Needle Man:''' It's ''never'' about what we ''want''. We're just tools, kid. So do your job. [[MercyKill Take the shot.]]
23rd Mar '17 4:32:06 AM StFan
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** The Short Circuit of in which Mega Man characters from virtually all media (including the Ruby-Spears cartoon, Mega Man from ''CaptainNTheGameMaster'' and the bad box designs from ''Street Fighter x Tekken'', European version, 9 and 10) and games (save ''Battle Network'') join in on giving the comic a send off via singing Vera Lynn's ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY We'll Meet Again]]''. It's very sweet as it is silly.

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** The Short Circuit of in which Mega Man characters from virtually all media (including the Ruby-Spears cartoon, Mega Man from ''CaptainNTheGameMaster'' ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster'' and the bad box designs from ''Street Fighter x Tekken'', European version, 9 and 10) and games (save ''Battle Network'') join in on giving the comic a send off via singing Vera Lynn's ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcunREYzNY We'll Meet Again]]''. It's very sweet as it is silly.
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