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** While all of this is going down, Lancer gets a brief moment of quiet with only Assassin for company. He shows his more introspective side by discussing just how terrible parents many heroes(himself included) are, bitterly reminiscing on how many are only seen for their great deeds while their more unclean deeds are glossed over or outright ignored, wondering just what would have been of their children had they spent more time being good mothers and fathers instead.
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* Chapter 71 has Irisviel see the Kiritsugu blade, made of the ashes of its namesake. She has a breakdown upon sensing the curse on the blades, knowing that she cast the curse on her husband during the Fourth War while under Angra possession.
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* Chapter 71 70 has Irisviel see the Kiritsugu blade, made of the ashes of its namesake. She has a breakdown upon sensing the curse on the blades, knowing that she cast the curse on her husband during the Fourth War while under Angra possession.
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* Chapter 71 has Irisviel see the Kiritsugu blade, made of the ashes of its namesake. She has a breakdown upon sensing the curse on the blades, knowing that she cast the curse on her husband during the Fourth War while under Angra possession.
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** [[SpannerInTheWorks Seeing as how fucked up the Holy Grail War has become]], [[ObstructiveBureaucrat the Association will likely go after Shirou for petty reasons]}. [[GuiltByAssociation Shirou has many accomplices, and the Association will go after them as well.]]
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** [[SpannerInTheWorks Seeing as how fucked up the Holy Grail War has become]], [[ObstructiveBureaucrat the Association will likely go after Shirou for petty reasons]}.reasons]]. [[GuiltByAssociation Shirou has many accomplices, and the Association will go after them as well.]]
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--> ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Save them Saber. Please save my children]}. [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture I have bet everything on you and Shirou to make things right where I have failed]], [[AllForNothing where I have gambled everything on a lie and gained nothing but destruction]]. [[TraumaCongaLine Every other attempt I have had at trying to make someone close to me happy and live has ended only in death, violence, and sending them on the path of ruin.]]''\\
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--> ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Save them Saber. Please save my children]}.children]]. [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture I have bet everything on you and Shirou to make things right where I have failed]], [[AllForNothing where I have gambled everything on a lie and gained nothing but destruction]]. [[TraumaCongaLine Every other attempt I have had at trying to make someone close to me happy and live has ended only in death, violence, and sending them on the path of ruin.]]''\\
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* Early on in Chapter 5, [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Shirou gets himself in trouble]] when he protects [[BrokenBird Sakura]] [[KidsAreCruel from a bunch of bullies]]. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome He gets beaten up even when using Reinforcement]], and Kiritsugu scares the other children off using his [[KillingIntent Magus Killer]] [[ColdEquation persona]]. Then, [[DisappointedInYou he calmly gives Shirou a harsh speech on the latter's foolishness]], [[TragicHero warning him of what will happen if he follow his father's path.]]
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* Early on in Chapter 5, [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Shirou gets himself in trouble]] when he protects [[BrokenBird Sakura]] [[KidsAreCruel Sakura from a bunch of bullies]]. bullies. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome He gets beaten up even when using Reinforcement]], and Kiritsugu scares the other children off using his [[KillingIntent Magus Killer]] [[ColdEquation Killer persona]]. Then, [[DisappointedInYou he calmly gives Shirou a harsh speech on the latter's foolishness]], [[TragicHero warning him of what will happen if he follow his father's path.]]
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--> ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Save them Saber. Please save my children.]] children]}. [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture I have bet everything on you and Shirou to make things right where I have failed]], [[AllForNothing where I have gambled everything on a lie and gained nothing but destruction]]. [[TraumaCongaLine Every other attempt I have had at trying to make someone close to me happy and live has ended only in death, violence, and sending them on the path of ruin.]]''\\
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* Chapter 40: [[WhatTheHellHero Luvia angrily demands to know why]] [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Shirou wants Rin and Luvia to keep their heads down and support from the sidelines instead of openly helping him fight Gilgamesh.]] Shirou calmly lists his reasons:
** [[SpannerInTheWorks Seeing as how fucked up the Holy Grail War has become]], [[ObstructiveBureaucrat the Association will likely go after Shirou for petty reasons.]] [[GuiltByAssociation Shirou has many accomplices, and the Association will go after them as well.]]
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* Chapter 40: [[WhatTheHellHero Luvia angrily demands to know why]] [[ChronicHeroSyndrome why Shirou wants Rin and Luvia to keep their heads down and support from the sidelines instead of openly helping him fight Gilgamesh.]] Shirou calmly lists his reasons:
** [[SpannerInTheWorks Seeing as how fucked up the Holy Grail War has become]], [[ObstructiveBureaucrat the Association will likely go after Shirou for pettyreasons.]] reasons]}. [[GuiltByAssociation Shirou has many accomplices, and the Association will go after them as well.]]
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* Chapter 42: [[InvoluntaryBattleToTheDeath As Archer and Assassin are busy trying to kill each other]], [[NotSoStoic Heroic Spirit EMIYA breaks his composure]]. [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning While Kiritsugu managed to make it to the Throne of Heroes as a true Heroic Spirit]], [[FateWorseThanDeath this version of Shirou went down the path of a Counter Guardian]]. Assassin deflects, stating that [[ColdEquation they are both 'cleaners']] and that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids the difference is that only 'fools' pretend otherwise]]. [[CallingTheOldManOut Archer becomes quite furious]], point out that he inherited a [[TitleDrop fake dream]], [[TragicDream a fake dream that his father already fulfilled]]. [[IHatePastMe Archer notes that he was going to try and kill his past self again]], [[BrokenPedestal but now he genuinely want to switch targets since he can afford to vent all]] [[IllKillYou of his rage and frustration]] [[LikeFatherLikeSon on the man]] [[AllForNothing who led him]] [[HistoryRepeats astray]] [[GenerationXerox in the first place]].
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* Chapter 42: [[InvoluntaryBattleToTheDeath As Archer and Assassin are busy trying to kill each other]], [[NotSoStoic Heroic Spirit EMIYA breaks his composure]]. [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning While Kiritsugu managed to make it to the Throne of Heroes as a true Heroic Spirit]], [[FateWorseThanDeath this version of Shirou went down the path of a Counter Guardian]]. Assassin deflects, stating that [[ColdEquation they are both 'cleaners']] and that [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids the difference is that only 'fools' pretend otherwise]]. [[CallingTheOldManOut Archer becomes quite furious]], point out that he inherited a [[TitleDrop fake dream]], [[TragicDream a fake dream that his father already fulfilled]]. [[IHatePastMe Archer notes that he was going to try and kill his past self again]], [[BrokenPedestal but now he genuinely want to switch targets since he can afford to vent all]] [[IllKillYou all of his rage and frustration]] [[LikeFatherLikeSon frustration on the man]] [[AllForNothing man who led him]] [[HistoryRepeats astray]] [[GenerationXerox him astray in the first place]].place.
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* Chapter 44 has Shirou finally discover the identity of [[IHatePastMe Archer]], and worse still the resonance between their souls causes Shirou to relive all of Archer's [[DyingAlone life]], existence as a [[FateWorseThanDeath Counter Guardian]] and [[KickTheDog summonings]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder in]] [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong the]] [[NightmareFuel Grail]] [[FridgeHorror War]]. He [[HeroicBSOD does]] [[ItsAllMyFault not]] [[MySkullRunnethOver take]] [[{{Understatement}} it well]].
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* Chapter 44 has Shirou finally discover the identity of [[IHatePastMe Archer]], and worse still the resonance between their souls causes Shirou to relive all of Archer's [[DyingAlone life]], existence as a [[FateWorseThanDeath Counter Guardian]] and [[KickTheDog summonings]] [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder in]] [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong the]] [[NightmareFuel Grail]] [[FridgeHorror War]]. summonings in the Grail War. He [[HeroicBSOD does]] [[ItsAllMyFault not]] [[MySkullRunnethOver take]] [[{{Understatement}} does not take it well]].well.
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* Chapter 48 has Witch!Caster finally getting her just desserts. Still, given how pathetically she gets owned, and with all the crap she has been forced to go through in life and after, one can't help but feel a very little bit sorry for her. She loses absolutely everything, and then as she was about to cause everything to blow up as a last ditch attempt, she gets shot in the back by Assassin, ultimately coming off as a wretched being who was until the end played by everyone, and who had to be put down for the greater good. On a meta level this cements how ruthless Shirou can be, and how far he has diverged from his Canon self, who would have striven to save everyone.
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* Chapter 48 has Witch!Caster finally getting her just desserts. Still, given how pathetically she gets owned, and with all the crap she has been forced to go through in life and after, one can't help but feel a very little bit sorry for her. She loses absolutely everything, and then as she was about to cause everything to blow up as a last ditch attempt, she gets shot in the back by Assassin, ultimately coming off as a wretched being who was until the end played by everyone, and who had to be put down for the greater good. On a meta level this cements how ruthless Shirou can be, and how far he has diverged from his Canon self, who would have striven to save everyone.
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* Chapter 65 has Shirou come to the realization that after the Grail War ends, he will have to leave Fuyuki and possibly never return.
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* Chapter 45 finally drives home the difference between Shirou and Archer: if Archer inherited Kiritsugu's ideals, FFD!Shirou inherited his ''regrets''. This means Archer and Shirou are so different on a fundamental level, they will never be able to understand or accept each other, [[UpToEleven even more so than in canon]].
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* Chapter 45 finally drives home the difference between Shirou and Archer: if Archer inherited Kiritsugu's ideals, FFD!Shirou inherited his ''regrets''. This means Archer and Shirou are so different on a fundamental level, they will never be able to understand or accept each other, [[UpToEleven even more so than in canon]].canon.
