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** While Evan is whaling on Vinny, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman or the Guardian; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening (almost) the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all the while lying, misleading, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death'' by the Slender Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.

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** While Evan is whaling on Vinny, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman or the Guardian; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening (almost) the entire for a long time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've the crew suffered -- all the while lying, misleading, manipulating, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into intao continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent allowed Alex to his death'' be killed by the Slender Man, Man'' because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film record everything from a comfortable safe distance, while the others '' everyone else'' suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.


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*** Not only that, but in watching the videos, we've helped to spread awareness of the monsters behind the iteration cycles -- and, in doing so, have given them more power and more lives to ruin. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice job breaking it, audience]].
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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there is a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time soon: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game.]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person the boys have met or interacted with, everyone who watched the videos, and everyone who participated in the game is in some sense a victim of the cycle. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]

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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a long time. [[spoiler: While he hints Patrick suggests that there is a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time soon: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game.]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person the boys have met or interacted with, everyone who watched the videos, and everyone who participated in the game is is, in some sense sense, a victim of the cycle. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]
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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky]]) can be ''very'' difficult.

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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky]]) can be ''very'' difficult.difficult to watch.
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*** Patrick talks about Shaun, calling him his "brother". For all his malevolence, part of him cared about Shaun and hated to see harm come to him.

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*** Patrick talks about Shaun, comparing him to Vinny's [[spoiler: fictional]] sister and calling him his "brother". For all his malevolence, malevolence, it seems that part of him cared ''did'' care about Shaun and hated didn't want to see harm come to him.
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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there is a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time soon: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the videos, and everyone who has participated in the game, is, in some sense, a victim. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]

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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there is a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time soon: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...game.]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person the boys have met or interacted with, everyone who has watched the videos, and everyone who has participated in the game, is, game is in some sense, sense a victim.victim of the cycle. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]
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*** On a lesser note, Patrick talking about Shaun and calling him as his "brother". For all his malevolence, part of him cared about Shaun and didn't want any harm to come to him.

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*** On a lesser note, Patrick talking talks about Shaun and Shaun, calling him as his "brother". For all his malevolence, part of him cared about Shaun and didn't want any hated to see harm to come to him.

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler:Princeton!Vinny gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can feel the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, [[spoiler: Patrick's words]] will surely do the trick.

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler:Princeton!Vinny gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can feel the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, [[spoiler: Patrick's words]] will surely do the trick.


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*** On a lesser note, Patrick talking about Shaun and calling him as his "brother". For all his malevolence, part of him cared about Shaun and didn't want any harm to come to him.
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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler:Princeton!Vinny gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's words will surely do the trick.
** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remember him'' or understand what's going on until it's too late. Our current iteration's Vinny naturally has no memory of the call, nor does he get to hear it at any point.]]

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler:Princeton!Vinny gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' feel the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, [[spoiler: Patrick's words words]] will surely do the trick.
** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never never remember him'' him or understand what's going on until it's too late. Our current iteration's Vinny naturally has no memory of the call, nor does he get to hear it at any point.]]



** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, and everyone who has participated in the game, is in some sense a victim of the "cycle". [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]

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** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, videos, and everyone who has participated in the game, is is, in some sense sense, a victim of the "cycle".victim. [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]
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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]

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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be is a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: soon: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
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*** Subverted in the final video...if only slightly. It's hinted that this "ending" is just a new beginning. However, the viewers aren't going to see what happens next. [[spoiler: We'll never know if the boys succeed at breaking the cycle, or if they're doomed to live it out for eternity.]]

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*** Subverted in the final video...if only slightly. It's hinted that this "ending" is just a new beginning. However, the viewers aren't going to see what happens next. [[spoiler: We'll never know when, or ''if'', if the boys ever succeed at breaking the cycle, or if they're doomed to live it out for eternity.cycle.]]



*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]

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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, he also hints it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's words will surely do the trick.
** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remember him'' or understand what's going on until it's too late. Vin doesn't even remember the phone call (nor does he get to hear it at any point) in the next iteration.]]

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent [[spoiler:Princeton!Vinny gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's words will surely do the trick.
** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remember him'' or understand what's going on until it's too late. Vin doesn't even remember Our current iteration's Vinny naturally has no memory of the phone call (nor call, nor does he get to hear it at any point) in the next iteration.point.]]



--->"You’re not like me. See, my whole fuckin' thing is I know they get stronger. The more that we spread the knowledge of their existence, it's- A fucking virus loop, man, it feeds them. It’s more toys in their fuckin' toy box. Every soul you touch, every friend, family member, lover, and stranger that you interact with, willing or not, you roped them fucking into this, they’re all a part of this and they’re all trying- Goddammit, man."

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--->"You’re --->'''[[spoiler:Patrick]]:''' You’re not like me. See, my whole fuckin' thing is I know they get stronger. The more that we spread the knowledge of their existence, it's- A fucking virus loop, man, it feeds them. It’s more toys in their fuckin' toy box. Every soul you touch, every friend, family member, lover, and stranger that you interact with, willing or not, you roped them fucking into this, they’re all a part of this and they’re all trying- Goddammit, man."
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** Vin having to drive past Hoagie Haven, the sandwich shop where he and his friends ate on many occasions both before and after their lives started going to hell. And there's a red light that makes him briefly stop directly in front of it.

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** Vin having to drive past Hoagie Haven, the sandwich shop where he and his friends ate on many occasions both before and after their lives started going to hell. And there's just to twist the knife, he is forced to stop at a red light that makes him briefly stop directly in front of it.it. [[SadClown He jokes about being tempted to go in and get a delicious sandwich]], but the following line makes it clear how he's really feeling.
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** Vin having to drive past the Hoagie Haven, the sandwich shop where he and his friends ate on many occasions before (and even after) their lives started going to hell.
--->"[O]hohoho no. [sighs] I haven't even thought of that place in years. 'nother time, 'nother place."

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** Vin having to drive past the Hoagie Haven, the sandwich shop where he and his friends ate on many occasions both before (and even after) and after their lives started going to hell.
--->"[O]hohoho no. [sighs]
hell. And there's a red light that makes him briefly stop directly in front of it.
--->'''Vin:''' ''[sighs]''
I haven't even thought of that place in years. 'nother ''years''. ''[sighs again]'' 'Nother time, 'nother place."
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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky]]) can be ''very'' difficult to watch.

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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky]]) can be ''very'' difficult to watch.difficult.
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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's wor will surely do the trick.

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's wor words will surely do the trick.
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** Evan entering the attic room where HABIT tortured his victims. [[spoiler: He puts down the camera, determined not to broadcast his discovery...only to stagger back into the frame moments later, [[HeroicBluescreenOfDeath shellshocked]]. [[QuieterThanSilence Then the audio cuts out]], and we're treated to several minutes of Evan silently screaming and crying as he pounds his fists into the floor.]]

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** Evan entering the attic room where HABIT tortured his victims. [[spoiler: He puts down the camera, determined not to broadcast his discovery...only to stagger back into the frame moments later, completely [[HeroicBluescreenOfDeath shellshocked]]. [[QuieterThanSilence Then the audio cuts out]], and we're treated to several minutes of Evan silently screaming and crying as he pounds his fists into the floor.]]



** One final kick in the teeth: [[spoiler: based on Evan's memories, HABIT made Jeff cry and beg for his life...just like he promised he would.]]

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** One final kick in the teeth: [[spoiler: based on Evan's memories, HABIT made Jeff cry and beg for his life...life, just like he promised he would.]]



* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2hdblD5o4A Amuse Bouche]] is more or less the usual habits of HABIT we come to know and love to hate: Guy gets kidnapped? Check. Guy is confused? What else. Guy gets killed? Wouldn't be a HABIT video without it. There is some [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic symbolic]] explanation of the shit going down that we're left to figure out on our own, but it's mostly the usual HABIT-centered entry. However, the ending strikes an uncomfortable chord with me; [[spoiler: as HABIT chokes his newest victim to death, Vinny is left to watch in fear. The exchange at the very end is pretty tear-jerking to someone who's seen [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything nasty arguments brew between spouses]].]]

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2hdblD5o4A Amuse Bouche]] is more or less the usual habits of HABIT we come to know and love to hate: Guy gets kidnapped? Check. Guy is confused? What else. Guy gets killed? Wouldn't be a HABIT video without it. There is some [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic symbolic]] explanation of the shit going down that we're left to figure out on our own, but it's mostly the usual HABIT-centered entry. However, the ending strikes an especially uncomfortable chord with me; chord: [[spoiler: as HABIT chokes his newest victim to death, Vinny is left to watch in fear. The exchange at the very end is pretty tear-jerking to someone who's seen [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything nasty arguments brew between spouses]].]]



** While Evan is whaling on Vinny, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all while lying, misleading, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death'' by the Slender Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.

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** While Evan is whaling on Vinny, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman; Everyman or the Guardian; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening (almost) the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all the while lying, misleading, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death'' by the Slender Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.



* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in an reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice.

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* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in an a reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out for ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice. If anything can make you feel pity for a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] monster, Patrick's wor will surely do the trick.



*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. And Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, and everyone who has participated in the game, is in some sense a victim of the "cycle".]]

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*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. And What's worse, Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, and everyone who has participated in the game, is in some sense a victim of the "cycle". [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou Including us]].]]
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** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remembers him'' or understands what's going on until it's too late. Vin doesn't even remember the phone call (nor does he get to hear it at any point) in the next iteration.]]

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** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remembers remember him'' or understands understand what's going on until it's too late. Vin doesn't even remember the phone call (nor does he get to hear it at any point) in the next iteration.]]
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** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the one person who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remembers him'' or understands what's going on until it's too late. Vin isn't even going to remember ''this'' call in the next iteration.]]

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** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the one person only people who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remembers him'' or understands what's going on until it's too late. Vin isn't doesn't even going to remember ''this'' the phone call (nor does he get to hear it at any point) in the next iteration.]]



** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, and everyone who has participated in the game, is in some sense a victim of the "cycle".]] How many lives are going to be lost in the future?

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** From a meta standpoint, the fact that '''every single character''' that we've come to love and care about in the series is ''dead''. And not all at once at the hands of a WorldWreckingWave or any sort of method, but picked off one at a time through slow, agonizing torturous methods at the hands of sadistic monsters. There's no RayOfHopeEnding or any sign that anyone has survived ala WebVideo/MarbleHornets. Not even the bad guy's human host made it out alive. The series ends on a somber, but definite tone that tells us that nobody is coming back to tell us what happened. And that's that.

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** From a meta standpoint, the fact that '''every single character''' that we've come to love and care about in the series is ''dead''. And not all at once at the hands of a WorldWreckingWave or any sort of method, but picked off one at a time through slow, agonizing torturous methods at the hands of sadistic monsters. There's no RayOfHopeEnding or any sign that anyone has survived ala a la WebVideo/MarbleHornets. Not even the bad guy's human host made it out alive. The series ends on a somber, but definite tone that tells us that nobody is coming back to tell us what happened. And that's that.that.
*** Subverted in the final video...if only slightly. It's hinted that this "ending" is just a new beginning. However, the viewers aren't going to see what happens next. [[spoiler: We'll never know if the boys succeed at breaking the cycle, or if they're doomed to live it out for eternity.]]
* The "TOWER ON THE LAKE" audio file from Box #7. [[spoiler: Vincent gets a call from [[WebVideo/MLAndersen0 Patrick Andersen]]. It turns out he's trapped in an reincarnation cycle that runs parallel to the iteration cycle the boys are experiencing. However, he's been living it out ''much'' longer -- and, unlike the boys, ''[[AndIMustScream he remembers everything]]'']]. While his words are as snarky as ever, you can just ''feel'' the [[WhoWantsToLiveForever weariness]] and despair in his voice.
** Moreover, it's hinted that [[spoiler: he doesn't just remember individual iterations: he has [[FourthWallObserver full awareness of the cycle itself, how it works, and the people involved,]] ''[[FourthWallObserver all of the time]]''. He has to live out each iteration knowing full well that his human "identity" is nothing more than a meat suit, that his family isn't his real family, and that everyone around him is fated to get drawn into the Slender Man's web and die a horrific death, and there's nothing he can do to prevent or change that. And he's ''exhausted''.]] What's worse, [[spoiler: the one person who could possibly understand what he's going through ''never remembers him'' or understands what's going on until it's too late. Vin isn't even going to remember ''this'' call in the next iteration.]]
*** There's also the implication that this is going to continue for a ''very'' long time. [[spoiler: While he hints that there ''might'' be a way for Vincent and the boys to "win" and break the cycle, it isn't going to happen any time in the foreseeable future: he's already seen the next several iterations (including the most recent), and Vincent fails in ''all'' of them. And Dr. Corenthal, the one person on their side who might be able to help them break the cycle, apparently doesn't have much longer in the game...]]
** The reveal that [[spoiler: every single person who has watched the channel, and everyone who has participated in the game, is in some sense a victim of the "cycle".]] How many lives are going to be lost in the future?
--->"You’re not like me. See, my whole fuckin' thing is I know they get stronger. The more that we spread the knowledge of their existence, it's- A fucking virus loop, man, it feeds them. It’s more toys in their fuckin' toy box. Every soul you touch, every friend, family member, lover, and stranger that you interact with, willing or not, you roped them fucking into this, they’re all a part of this and they’re all trying- Goddammit, man."

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** [[spoiler: Evan remembering the atrocities he committed as HABIT. The anguish and self-loathing in his voice is
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** [[spoiler: Evan remembering the atrocities he committed as HABIT. The anguish and self-loathing in his voice is
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** [[spoiler: "[[BrokenPedestal You were supposed to protect us...]]"]]

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** [[spoiler: "[[BrokenPedestal You were supposed to protect us...]]"]]]]"]]
** From a meta standpoint, the fact that '''every single character''' that we've come to love and care about in the series is ''dead''. And not all at once at the hands of a WorldWreckingWave or any sort of method, but picked off one at a time through slow, agonizing torturous methods at the hands of sadistic monsters. There's no RayOfHopeEnding or any sign that anyone has survived ala WebVideo/MarbleHornets. Not even the bad guy's human host made it out alive. The series ends on a somber, but definite tone that tells us that nobody is coming back to tell us what happened. And that's that.

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** [[spoiler: Evan remembering the atrocities he committed as HABIT. The anguish and self-loathing in his voice are nothing short of heartbreaking.]]

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** [[spoiler: Evan remembering the atrocities he committed as HABIT. The anguish and self-loathing in his voice are is
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* Evan's tearful, "Vinnie, you're the only person I have" before going through with Vin's plan to summon HABIT.

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* Evan's tearful, "Vinnie, "Vinny, you're the only person I have" before going through with Vin's plan to summon HABIT.



** In the same episode Vinnie calling himself a monster and Evan (despite his state) trying to cheer up Vinnie by suggesting they play video games like old times.
* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYb1nB4Zjk two thousand three hundred ninety-five]], Vinnie [[spoiler: [[HeroicBSOD loses all hope that he'll ever be truly free of all the supernatural shit infesting his life]] and ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''. [[DeathIsCheap He gets better]].]]
* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the grass and breaks down crying.

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** In the same episode Vinnie calling himself a monster and Evan (despite his state) trying to cheer up Vinnie Vinny by suggesting they play video games like old times.
* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYb1nB4Zjk two thousand three hundred ninety-five]], Vinnie Vinny [[spoiler: [[HeroicBSOD loses all hope that he'll ever be truly free of all the supernatural shit infesting his life]] and ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''. [[DeathIsCheap He gets better]].]]
* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie Vinny did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the grass and breaks down crying.



** That's nothing compared to what awaits him farther up the road:

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--->'''[[spoiler: Jeff]]''' Hey Vin, you ready?

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** As if that weren't bad enough, [[spoiler: Vinny ''shoots Evan in the stomach'' after taunting him]]. Damn....

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** As if that weren't bad enough, [[spoiler: Vinny ''shoots Evan in the stomach'' after taunting him]]. Damn....Damn....
** [[spoiler: "[[BrokenPedestal You were supposed to protect us...]]"]]
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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky) can be ''very'' difficult to watch.

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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky) Sparky]]) can be ''very'' difficult to watch.
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** While Evan gives Vinny a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all while lying, misleading, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death'' by the Slender Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.

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** While Evan gives Vinny a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, is whaling on Vinny, he reveals the secrets HABIT told him; what Vinny has been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator and the audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vinny isn't the Everyman; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was aware of the bigger picture of what was happening the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all while lying, misleading, and even editing their footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged the viewers to get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death'' by the Slender Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.

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* For those who have loved ones suffering from mental illness or instability, watching Alex's degradation (especially when he [[spoiler: begins talking to the sock puppet and claiming it's Sparky) can be ''very'' difficult to watch.



* Three's Company: Vinny drugging an innocent man, and himself, while tearfully insisting that he's not a bad person.

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* Three's Company: "Three's Company": Vinny drugging an innocent man, and himself, while tearfully insisting that he's not a bad person.



* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the dirt and breaks down crying.

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* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the dirt grass and breaks down crying.crying.
* "The drive west", amid all the [[MindScrew mind screws]], is a very melancholy episode -- with some exceptionally painful moments:
** Vincent talking about his guilt -- especially over [[spoiler: Shaun's death]].
** Vin having to drive past the Hoagie Haven, the sandwich shop where he and his friends ate on many occasions before (and even after) their lives started going to hell.
--->"[O]hohoho no. [sighs] I haven't even thought of that place in years. 'nother time, 'nother place."
** That's nothing compared to what awaits him farther up the road:
--->'''[[spoiler: Jeff]]''' Hey Vin, you ready?
*** As if that weren't bad ''enough'', he later runs into [[spoiler: a bloody, wounded version of Jeff]] in the woods, begging him to save him [[spoiler: and Alex]]. Just to twist the knife further, as Vince runs the other way, he screams after him, [[spoiler: "YOU COULD HAVE FUCKING SAVED US!"]]
*** And then (because [[UpToEleven once isn't enough]]), the powers that be torment him with yet ''another'' vision [[spoiler: of a bloody, limping Jeff]] on a beach. It makes just as much sense in context -- and it's as heartbreaking (and horrifying) to Vince as it is to the viewers.
*** Try re-watching the episode after viewing "All good things", in which we learn [[spoiler: the ''real'' role Vince played in the deaths of Jeff and his brother]]. It becomes much, ''much'' worse.



** Evan revealing the secret HABIT told him, which Vinny has kept [[UnreliableNarrator hidden from the audience]] all this time: [[spoiler: Vin was ultimately responsible for the deaths of ''all'' of their friends. Not only was he the one who goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate, and encouraged them to drag their loved ones into it, but ''he'' set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses. He also sent Alex to his death by the Slender Man -- because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him]]. Why did all this happen? [[spoiler: Vinny is the Voyeur. It was his role from the start.]]
** We also learn why Jeff [[spoiler: had to die]]: [[spoiler: he was the Guardian. Not only was he was too close to figuring everything out, but he was the one designated to keep his friends safe]]. Oh, ''Jeff''.

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** While Evan revealing gives Vinny a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, he reveals the secret secrets HABIT told him, which him; what Vinny has kept been keeping from his friends, [[UnreliableNarrator hidden from and the audience]] all this audience]], the entire time: [[spoiler: Vin Vinny isn't the Everyman; he's ''the Voyeur''. He was ultimately responsible for aware of the deaths bigger picture of ''all'' of what was happening the entire time, and helped set in motion nearly ''everything'' they've suffered -- all while lying, misleading, and even editing their friends. Not only was he the one who footage to keep everyone ignorant of his role in things. He goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate, investigate (despite Jeff's protestations), and subtly encouraged them the viewers to drag their loved ones into it, but ''he'' get involved. He also set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses. He also houses, to ensure that ''everything'' was captured on film.]] Worst of all, [[spoiler: ''he deliberately sent Alex to his death death'' by the Slender Man -- Man, because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him]]. Why did all this happen? [[spoiler: Vinny is the Voyeur. him. He also sent Jeff to pick up Evan alone, knowing that Evan was becoming possessed by HABIT. It was his role from the start.]]
start to film from a comfortable distance, while the others suffered and lost their lives -- and he did everything in his power to keep it that way.]] Vinny, you ''bastard''.
** We also learn why Jeff As the icing on the cake, he continues to taunt Evan while [[spoiler: had to die]]: Evan is dying from his knife wound]], calling him a "monster" and reminding him of everything he's done -- while painting himself as a hero. NeverMyFault, thy name is Vincent.
** As if that weren't bad enough,
[[spoiler: he was Vinny ''shoots Evan in the Guardian. Not only was he was too close to figuring everything out, but he was the one designated to keep his friends safe]]. Oh, ''Jeff''.stomach'' after taunting him]]. Damn....
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* "All good things" might just be the saddest episode in the entire series. [[spoiler: HABIT reveals that he wants Vinny to kill Evan via the God Killer weapons they just created. Vinny understandably refuses to do this, but is rendered moot when HABIT releases Evan from his control, who reveals he knows just how badly Vinny's fucked up. The end result is a brutal NoHoldsBarredBeatdown between the two of them, which has the two former best friends covered in blood screaming and cursing at each other. Ultimately, Vinny and Evan kill each other with the knife and gun respectively, the final shot of the video showing the two dying right next to each other.]]

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* "All good things" might just be the saddest episode in the entire series. [[spoiler: HABIT reveals that he wants Vinny to kill Evan via the God Killer weapons they just created. Vinny understandably refuses to do this, but is rendered moot when HABIT releases Evan from his control, who reveals he knows just how badly Vinny's fucked up. The end result is a brutal NoHoldsBarredBeatdown between the two of them, which has the two former best friends covered in blood screaming and cursing at each other. Ultimately, Vinny and Evan kill each other with the knife and gun respectively, the final shot of the video showing the two dying right next to each other.]]]]
** Evan revealing the secret HABIT told him, which Vinny has kept [[UnreliableNarrator hidden from the audience]] all this time: [[spoiler: Vin was ultimately responsible for the deaths of ''all'' of their friends. Not only was he the one who goaded the boys into continuing to film and investigate, and encouraged them to drag their loved ones into it, but ''he'' set up the hidden cameras in the boys' houses. He also sent Alex to his death by the Slender Man -- because the Rake had told Alex not to trust him]]. Why did all this happen? [[spoiler: Vinny is the Voyeur. It was his role from the start.]]
** We also learn why Jeff [[spoiler: had to die]]: [[spoiler: he was the Guardian. Not only was he was too close to figuring everything out, but he was the one designated to keep his friends safe]]. Oh, ''Jeff''.
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* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the dirt and breaks down crying.

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* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the dirt and breaks down crying.crying.
* "All good things" might just be the saddest episode in the entire series. [[spoiler: HABIT reveals that he wants Vinny to kill Evan via the God Killer weapons they just created. Vinny understandably refuses to do this, but is rendered moot when HABIT releases Evan from his control, who reveals he knows just how badly Vinny's fucked up. The end result is a brutal NoHoldsBarredBeatdown between the two of them, which has the two former best friends covered in blood screaming and cursing at each other. Ultimately, Vinny and Evan kill each other with the knife and gun respectively, the final shot of the video showing the two dying right next to each other.]]
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* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYb1nB4Zjk two thousand three hundred ninety-five]], Vinnie [[spoiler: [[HeroicBSOD loses all hope that he'll ever be truly free of all the supernatural shit infesting his life]] and ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''. [[DeathIsCheap He gets better]].]]

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* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYb1nB4Zjk two thousand three hundred ninety-five]], Vinnie [[spoiler: [[HeroicBSOD loses all hope that he'll ever be truly free of all the supernatural shit infesting his life]] and ''[[DrivenToSuicide kills himself]]''. [[DeathIsCheap He gets better]].]]]]
* At the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ks2L6MqUl0 Sleeping dogs lie]]", we finally see what Vinnie did [[spoiler: after he was finally released from Apt. 3103]] -- he collapses into the dirt and breaks down crying.

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