History TearJerker / DragonAgeII

19th Apr '18 9:55:52 AM culturalrebel
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* More Fridge TearJerker than anything, but there's a mini-quest with Merrill that comes up if [[spoiler: Bethany was taken to the Circle.]] Merrill will comfort Hawke by saying that [[spoiler: Bethany is strong enough to survive the Gallows.]] If you choose the Snarky dialogue option, Hawke will reveal that they firmly believe that Leandra blames them for [[spoiler: Bethany being taken away.]] It becomes even sadder when you remember that Leandra, in her grief, blamed Hawke for [[spoiler: Carver's death in the prologue]], and the memory of [[spoiler: their brother's death]] and Leandra's heartbroken reaction still haunts them even though they try to cover it up with humor.
1st Apr '18 7:11:41 AM yin_13147
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--8> '''Fenris:''' [[spoiler: "Don't do this, Hawke. [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove I need you.]]"]]

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--8> ---> '''Fenris:''' [[spoiler: "Don't do this, Hawke. [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove I need you.]]"]]
1st Apr '18 7:11:25 AM yin_13147
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*** [[spoiler: "Don't do this, Hawke. [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove I need you.]]"]]

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*** --8> '''Fenris:''' [[spoiler: "Don't do this, Hawke. [[AnguishedDeclarationOfLove I need you.]]"]]]]"]]
*** If Hawke has a rivalry with Fenris, Fenris says this instead: "I know we're not friends, but [[spoiler: I can't face him without you.]]". It shows that [[spoiler: despite him talking many times about how he wishes to kill Danarius, in the end he's still deathly afraid of facing his former master]].
25th Mar '18 9:56:43 AM LadyNorbert
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* The conclusion of Varric's companion quest in Act 2. Choosing to kill [[spoiler:Bartrand]] may not feel like that big a deal at first; after all, [[spoiler:Varric has, by that point, repeatedly expressed a desire to do so, and you as Hawke probably feel much the same way (especially if [[spoiler:your sibling died in the Deep Roads]]). It also seems like the merciful option, especially if you don't have Anders with you and have no reason to think Bartrand isn't beyond help.]] Then comes the conversation as the party walks away, and [[spoiler:Varric admits it was the hardest thing he's ever had to do. And then, years later in Act 3, he tells Fenris not to kill ''his'' sister, saying that it won't make him feel any better, and that he would know.]] The other option isn't much better, and in some ways may be worse, as [[spoiler:sparing Bartrand's life means saddling Varric with the emotional burden of having a sibling who will likely never recover, but on whom he cannot give up hope.]]

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* The conclusion of Varric's companion quest in Act 2. Choosing to kill [[spoiler:Bartrand]] may not feel like that big a deal at first; after all, [[spoiler:Varric has, by that point, repeatedly expressed a desire to do so, and you as Hawke probably feel much the same way (especially if [[spoiler:your sibling died in the Deep Roads]]). It also seems like the merciful option, especially if you don't have Anders with you and [[spoiler:and have no reason to think Bartrand isn't beyond help.]] Then comes the conversation as the party walks away, and [[spoiler:Varric admits it was the hardest thing he's ever had to do. And then, years later in Act 3, he tells Fenris not to kill ''his'' sister, saying that it won't make him feel any better, and that he would know.]] The other option isn't much better, and in some ways may be worse, as [[spoiler:sparing Bartrand's life means saddling Varric with the emotional burden of having a sibling who will likely never recover, but on whom he cannot give up hope.]]
7th Mar '18 5:56:04 PM LadyNorbert
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** The conversation with Aveline at the guard barracks after the event is always painful. First, she wants to know how Hawke is doing, and if the diplomatic option is selected, it's simple and heartbreaking. [[spoiler: "My mother's dead. My heart's broken."]] Aveline then shares the story of how her father died in a Denerim ward, and how she read to him in his final days. She concludes the story by saying, [[spoiler: "That's all I've got. I'll miss her too."]] Aveline has known Hawke longer than any other companion, and her pain is as real as Hawke's in this scene.



* Viscount Dumar [[spoiler: cradling his dead son, killed by the agents of Mother Petrice. The man has spent his entire reign being tossed around by the Templars, the Circle, the Chantry, and the Qunari, with nowhere to run and no one, save Hawke, to turn to. He might be a weak leader, but it's easy to tell that he loved his son, and really did want him to find his own way. The trouble is that the Arishok is aggressive and LawfulStupid, and will most likely use Saemus as a bargaining chip; Mother Petrice is out for blood; and if he makes one wrong move, the Templars will have his head just like his predecessor. It's heartbreaking to see him finally break down.]] The sad choir music during this scene only adds to it.

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** Oh, and if the sibling is still alive? [[spoiler:Gamlen volunteers to be the one to break the news. Now picture Circle!Bethany in the Gallows with no one to console her, or Templar!Carver trying to do his duty despite his pain. Or either twin as a Grey Warden, receiving a letter about the matter. At least Hawke has their friends; the surviving twin is, in many ways, alone with their grief.]]
* Viscount Dumar [[spoiler: cradling his dead son, killed by the agents of Mother Petrice. The man has spent his entire reign being tossed around by the Templars, the Circle, the Chantry, and the Qunari, with nowhere to run and no one, save Hawke, to turn to. He might be a weak leader, but it's easy to tell that he loved his son, and really did want him to find his own way. The trouble is that the Arishok is aggressive and LawfulStupid, and will most likely use Saemus as a bargaining chip; Mother Petrice is out for blood; and if he the Viscount makes one wrong move, the Templars will have his head just like his predecessor. It's heartbreaking to see him finally break down.]] The sad choir music during this scene only adds to it.



*** Merrill even all but concedes to their cold words (not by name but by an acknowledgement of what they've often snapped at her about) by "Merrill, Friend Or Foe?" if you pursue her rivalry path (which is very easy to pursue with [[spoiler:Forbidden Knowledge in Act 2, as you can seek out the evil tomes even if you killed Idunna, which will be quest marked (though their locations are not stated) after finding the first one; destroying each one gives a hefty rivalry boost and a final quest point]]), and while some of the dialogue in the midst of pursuing her rivalry can have Hawke genuinely be concerned for her well-being as she grows angrier about his/her potential and likely "betrayal" involving the Eluvian, she becomes more reclusive around him/her as a result. The rivalry branch of her specialization tree really compounds this, as when compared to most of the others' (Fenris' is "agree[ing] to disagree," Isabela's is like a beleaguered husband [her] avoiding his argumentative wife [Hawke], Varric will tell Hawke's story whether Hawke likes it or not, etc.), hers is much more personal: "Accepted nowhere, Merrill has learned that she can depend only on herself."

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*** Merrill even all but concedes to their cold words (not by name but by an acknowledgement of what they've often snapped at her about) by "Merrill, Friend Or Foe?" if you pursue her rivalry path (which path.[[note]]This is very easy to pursue do with [[spoiler:Forbidden Knowledge [[spoiler:the quest "Forbidden Knowledge" in Act 2, as you can seek out the evil tomes even if you killed Idunna, which Idunna; they will be quest marked (though marked, though their locations are not stated) stated, after finding the first one; destroying one. Destroying each one gives Merrill a hefty rivalry boost and a final quest point]]), and while point]].[[/note]] While some of the dialogue in the midst of pursuing her rivalry can have Hawke genuinely be concerned for her well-being well-being, as she grows angrier about his/her potential and likely "betrayal" involving the Eluvian, she becomes more reclusive around him/her as a result. The rivalry branch of her specialization tree really compounds this, as when compared to most of the others' (Fenris' (Fenris's is "agree[ing] to disagree," Isabela's is like a beleaguered husband [her] avoiding his argumentative wife [Hawke], Varric will tell Hawke's story whether Hawke likes it or not, etc.), hers is much more personal: "Accepted nowhere, Merrill has learned that she can depend only on herself."



* Sebastian's reaction to seeing [[spoiler: the Chantry getting blown up is heartbreaking, especially if you've convinced him to become a brother there, and he actually believes that he has finally found where he belongs in the Chantry.]]

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* Sebastian's reaction to seeing [[spoiler: the Chantry getting blown up is heartbreaking, especially if you've convinced him to become a brother there, and he actually believes that he has finally found where he belongs belongs. The third game shows that regardless of what you encouraged him to do, he takes back the throne of Starkhaven; but if his home in the Chantry.Kirkwall Chantry had not been taken away from him, maybe he would have stayed there and been happy.]]



* The conclusion of Varric's companion quest in Act 2. Choosing to kill [[spoiler:Bartrand]] may not feel like that big a deal at first; after all, [[spoiler:Varric has, by that point, repeatedly expressed a desire to do so, and you as Hawke probably feel much the same way. It also seems like the merciful option, especially if you don't have Anders with you and have no reason to think Bartrand isn't beyond help.]] Then comes the conversation as the party walks away, and [[spoiler:Varric admits it was the hardest thing he's ever had to do. And then, years later in Act 3, he tells Fenris not to kill ''his'' sister, saying that it won't make him feel any better, and that he would know.]] The other option isn't much better, and in some ways may be worse, as [[spoiler:sparing Bartrand's life means saddling Varric with the emotional burden of having a sibling who will likely never recover, but on whom he cannot give up hope.]]

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* The conclusion of Varric's companion quest in Act 2. Choosing to kill [[spoiler:Bartrand]] may not feel like that big a deal at first; after all, [[spoiler:Varric has, by that point, repeatedly expressed a desire to do so, and you as Hawke probably feel much the same way.way (especially if [[spoiler:your sibling died in the Deep Roads]]). It also seems like the merciful option, especially if you don't have Anders with you and have no reason to think Bartrand isn't beyond help.]] Then comes the conversation as the party walks away, and [[spoiler:Varric admits it was the hardest thing he's ever had to do. And then, years later in Act 3, he tells Fenris not to kill ''his'' sister, saying that it won't make him feel any better, and that he would know.]] The other option isn't much better, and in some ways may be worse, as [[spoiler:sparing Bartrand's life means saddling Varric with the emotional burden of having a sibling who will likely never recover, but on whom he cannot give up hope.]]



* The end of ''Legacy,'' provided it was finished in Act 3 or near the end of Act 2. Hawke's conversation with [[spoiler: the imaginary Leandra]] resonates with anyone whose ever lost an important loved one.

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* The end of ''Legacy,'' provided if it was finished in Act 3 or near the end of Act 2. Hawke's conversation with [[spoiler: the imaginary Leandra]] resonates with anyone whose ever lost an important loved one.
7th Feb '18 7:15:20 PM LadyNorbert
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* There's a small one I only just realized for the first time, when Leandra - after the will is found - talks to Hawke about her parents. She mentions that she wrote to her mother when each of the children were born, and her mother never wrote back; this makes sense when speaking just of Hawke. But it's stated in the game that Leandra's parents' funeral took place the same week that Bethany and Carver were born, which is why Leandra couldn't be there. (She probably couldn't even get out of bed at that point.) She must have written to her mother to tell her that she had given birth, or would shortly give birth, to twins; her mother didn't respond and it must have felt like a repeat of the earlier snub, but then Gamlen's letter arrived to inform her of their parents' death. They were gone and she would never have the chance to make amends or even see them again. This coming on the heels of the rigors of birth, and knowing what we in the real world know about post-partum depression... Leandra must have had a difficult time.
10th Dec '17 8:16:53 PM LadyNorbert
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** It's also very crushing to see how the event impacts the rest of the Hawke household. [[spoiler: Orana tearfully comments, "I'm sorry about your mama; I will miss her." Bodahn, meanwhile, in a voice which is clearly choked with emotion, talks about how "Mistress Amell" was a very fine woman who reminded him a lot of his own mother. The whole thing really illustrates how the Feddics and Orana aren't just household staff; they're part of the family.]]



** [[spoiler: Though if Hawke lives in ''Inquisition'', in the ''Trespasser'' DLC s/he returns to Kirkwall to work together with Varric, who was elected Viscount. So there is a HopeSpot.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though if Hawke lives in ''Inquisition'', in the ''Trespasser'' DLC s/he returns to Kirkwall to work together with Varric, who was has been elected Viscount. So there is a HopeSpot.]]



* Bethany being forced to join the Circle of Magi. Yes, she is alive and well, but it comes at the heel of a successful expedition which will make them rich, finally getting them out of the slums and back to their estate. The fact that Bethany isn't there, and instead in a place where she's viewed with suspicion and fear, makes the success ring so hollow.

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* Bethany being forced to join the Circle of Magi. Yes, she is alive and well, but it comes at the heel of a successful expedition which will make them rich, finally getting them out of the slums and back to their estate. The fact that Bethany isn't there, and instead is in a place where she's viewed with suspicion and fear, makes the success ring so hollow.



* Conversations with Carver can be this if you move him along the friendship path. It's clear they both want to let go of their animosity but neither of them seems to know how.

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* Conversations with Carver can be this if you move him along the friendship path. It's clear they that both siblings want to let go of their animosity but neither of them seems to know how.



* During certain points in the first two acts, Hawke can flirt with Aveline. This becomes a tearjerker when Aveline approaches Hawke about her feelings for Donnic and asks for help. During the quest, Hawke can all but outright state that they are in love with Aveline, but Aveline is too focused on Donnic to notice. And all this time Hawke can be doing all they can to help Aveline get her man. It's heartbreaking to see Hawke doing all they can to say that while Donnic might not be interested that they ''are'' and to have Aveline not notice until after hooking up with Donnic. Can double as heartwarming if Hawke helps her get Donnic. IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy, indeed.
** This is punctuated by a fairly clever use of the dialogue wheel. When Hawke wishes to end a romance with a companion they just have to select the broken heart symbol when it appears. During the last bit of dialogue after Aveline gets together with Donnic, one of the options is a broken heart with the words "Just be happy." Hawke breaks their own heart for Aveline's happiness.

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* During certain points in the first two acts, Hawke can flirt with Aveline. This becomes a tearjerker when Aveline approaches Hawke about her feelings for Donnic and asks for help. During the quest, Hawke can all but outright state that they are in love with Aveline, but Aveline is too focused on Donnic to notice. And all this time Hawke can be doing all they can to help Aveline get her man. It's heartbreaking to see Hawke doing all they can to say that while Donnic might not be interested that interested, they ''are'' ''are,'' and to have Aveline not notice until after hooking up with Donnic. Can double as heartwarming if Hawke helps her get Donnic. IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy, indeed.
** This is punctuated by a fairly clever use of the dialogue wheel. When Hawke wishes to end a romance with a companion companion, they just have to select the broken heart symbol when it appears. During the last bit of dialogue after Aveline gets together with Donnic, one of the options is a broken heart with the words "Just be happy." Hawke breaks their own heart for Aveline's happiness.



* [[SecondActBreakUp The break-up between Fenris and a romanced Hawke in Act 2 can count as this]]. In a series where ThePowerOfLove can cause Zevran to do a [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turn]], Isabela to come back and save the day, Morrigan to soften her heart, and can give Justice an insight into humanity, it's a nasty little subversion of the idea that love solves everything and an effective [[PlayerPunch Player Punch]] the first time around.

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* [[SecondActBreakUp The break-up between Fenris and a romanced Hawke in Act 2 can count as this]]. In a series where ThePowerOfLove can cause Zevran to do a [[HeelFaceTurn Heel Face Turn]], HeelFaceTurn, Isabela to come back and save the day, Morrigan to soften her heart, and can give Justice an insight into humanity, it's a nasty little subversion of the idea that love solves everything and an effective [[PlayerPunch Player Punch]] PlayerPunch the first time around.



* Isabela's back story. Isabela’s mother coldly sold her to an Antivan merchant [[spoiler: when Isabela refused to convert to the Qun]], and although they married, it was basically slavery for her. She was his plaything, punished when she misbehaved, forced to [[RapeAsBackstory entertain his friends]], and was completely miserable until Zevran came and assassinated him. After that, she fell in love with someone else, and when the man she loved proposed to her, Isabela fled, triggered by her horrible experiences with her first husband, which broke the guy’s heart. Isabela became afraid of love and relationships because everyone in her life that should have loved her betrayed her, used her for their own selfish gain, and was abusive towards her. How is that not heartbreaking?

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* Isabela's back story. Isabela’s mother coldly sold her to an Antivan merchant [[spoiler: when Isabela refused to convert to the Qun]], and although they married, it was basically slavery for her. She was his plaything, punished when she misbehaved, forced to [[RapeAsBackstory entertain his friends]], and was completely miserable until Zevran came and assassinated him. The best thing she says she can say about him is that he didn't beat her. After that, she fell in love with someone else, and when the man she loved proposed to her, Isabela fled, triggered by her horrible experiences with her first husband, which broke the guy’s heart. Isabela became afraid of love and relationships because everyone in her life that should have loved her betrayed her, used her for their own selfish gain, and was abusive towards her. How is that not heartbreaking?



** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man. His father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor. Imagine knowing that you sentenced one of your own children/siblings to ''death'' for something they didn't actually do, and then you discovered too late that they were innocent all along.
** The last note of the quest explains ''why'' no one ever found Tethras Garen: everyone who searched for him ended up in the Warden stronghold in the Vimmark Mountains, which was deliberately designed to trap any darkspawn who wandered into it, and is impossible to escape. (Doubles as a bit of NightmareFuel when you remember that ''this is where you are right now''.) The Legionnaire who wrote the final note was despairing because he would soon die and there was no one left to perform the traditional rite and return his soul to the Stone, nor had there been anyone to do it for Tethras.

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** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man. His father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest.search. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor. Imagine knowing that you sentenced one of your own children/siblings to ''death'' for something they didn't actually do, and then you discovered too late that they were innocent all along.
** The last note of the quest explains ''why'' no one ever found Tethras Garen: everyone who searched for him ended up in the Warden stronghold in the Vimmark Mountains, which was deliberately designed to trap any darkspawn who wandered into it, and is impossible to escape. (Doubles as a bit of NightmareFuel when you remember that ''this is where you '''you''' are right now''.) The Legionnaire who wrote the final note was despairing because he would soon die and there was no one left to perform the traditional rite and return his soul to the Stone, nor had there been anyone to do it for Tethras.
29th Oct '17 7:43:26 PM LadyNorbert
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** For bonus tears, if it's Bethany? [[spoiler:Listen to Varric. The man is ''devastated.'' Major voice acting props to Creator/BrianBloom, because if Hawke's own broken heart doesn't move the player to tears, Varric's ''will.'' Not only that, but clicking on him throughout the next act will sometimes prompt him to say, "Poor Sunshine. Bartrand will pay for her death, I promise you." Varric is openly affectionate with Bethany, arguably more than with any other character, and you just know he will never, ever stop blaming himself for her fate. "Oh, Sunshine," indeed.]]

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** For bonus tears, if it's Bethany? [[spoiler:Listen to Varric. The man is ''devastated.'' Major voice acting props to Creator/BrianBloom, because if Hawke's own broken heart doesn't move the player to tears, Varric's ''will.'' Not only that, but clicking on him throughout the next act will sometimes prompt him to say, "Poor Sunshine. Bartrand will pay for her death, I promise you." That's ''three years after she dies''. Varric is openly affectionate with Bethany, arguably more than he is with any other character, and you just know he will never, ever stop blaming himself for her fate. "Oh, Sunshine," indeed.]]



-->[[spoiler:'''Carver:''' No! I won't kill my brother for you!]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''Carver:''' No! I won't kill my brother brother/sister for you!]]



-->[[spoiler:'''Carver:''' I'm proud to call you brother. That's gone unsaid too long...]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''Carver:''' I'm proud to call you brother.brother/sister. That's gone unsaid too long...]]



** It's especially depressing if you think of how he keeps telling you he'll just break your heart and he's no good because [[spoiler:an apostate]] will just make Hawke's life harder, reminding one of the situation between [[spoiler:Leandra and Hawke's father.]] If you're friends with Varric he'll try to warn you, but Hawke just blows it off this being the beginning of the romance. In the end Hawke has had his/her mother, father, and at least one sibling (possibly both) taken away in addition to [[spoiler:Anders]], presumably Hawke's true love, betraying him/her after s/he believed in him.

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** It's especially depressing if you think of how he keeps telling you he'll just break your heart and he's no good because [[spoiler:an apostate]] will just make Hawke's life harder, reminding one of the situation between [[spoiler:Leandra and Hawke's father.]] If you're friends with Varric he'll try to warn you, but Hawke just blows it off off, this being the beginning of the romance.romance. Befriend Sebastian later, and he'll try to warn you too, but still to no avail. In the end Hawke has had his/her mother, father, and at least one sibling (possibly both) taken away in addition to [[spoiler:Anders]], presumably Hawke's true love, betraying him/her after s/he believed in him.



* Oh, a little sidebar for extra damage? [[spoiler: The mage Anders possibly kills at the end of "Dissent"]] is mentioned earlier in the game in a letter from Bethany if she's [[spoiler: at the Circle.]] Apparently, the two mages are friends, and Bethany is the mage's CoolBigSis. Ouch.

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* Oh, a little sidebar for extra damage? [[spoiler: The mage Anders possibly kills at the end of "Dissent"]] is mentioned earlier in the game in a letter from Bethany if she's [[spoiler: at the Circle.]] Apparently, the two mages are friends, and Bethany is the mage's younger girl's CoolBigSis. Ouch.



* Sebastian's entire arc has a lot of this to it, seeing as how Hawke only meets him because his entire family - parents, brothers, even young nieces and nephews - are brutally slaughtered.
** It's worse in Act 2, when he finds out who did it and why. [[spoiler:It's a friend of his mother's, who wanted the throne of Starkhaven for herself. She made a deal with a desire demon, and not only had Sebastian's family annihilated but promised the souls of her own husband and children as payment to the demon for continued support.]] It's a blend of Tear Jerker and Fridge Horror if you think about it too much.



** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man, and his father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor. Imagine knowing that you sentenced one of your own children/siblings to death for something they didn't actually do, and then you discovered too late that they were innocent all along.

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** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man, and his man. His father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor. Imagine knowing that you sentenced one of your own children/siblings to death ''death'' for something they didn't actually do, and then you discovered too late that they were innocent all along.



19th Oct '17 11:57:08 AM LadyNorbert
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* There's one in ''Legacy'' in the form of the optional side quest "The Paragon's Heir." It's especially moving if Varric is in the party.
** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man, and his father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor.

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* There's one in ''Legacy'' in the form of the optional side quest "The Paragon's Heir." It's especially moving if If Varric is in the party.
party, it's a three-part TearJerker:
** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man, and his father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor. Imagine knowing that you sentenced one of your own children/siblings to death for something they didn't actually do, and then you discovered too late that they were innocent all along.



** After Hawke speaks the traditional dwarven prayer for the dead, Varric remarks that it's very sweet, but he'd like to leave before anyone sees him cry. Given how choked up he sounds, and knowing that Hawke has just given this rite for one of Varric's distant relatives, you realize that the snarky dwarf ''really is on the verge of tears''.

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** After the party finds the remains of Tethras Garen, Hawke speaks the traditional dwarven prayer for the dead, which the Legionnaire had included in the final note. If he's there, Varric remarks that it's what Hawke has done is very sweet, but sweet and now he'd like to leave before anyone sees him cry. Given how choked up he sounds, and knowing that Hawke has just given this rite for one of Varric's distant relatives, you realize that the snarky dwarf ''really is on the verge of tears''.
19th Oct '17 11:53:22 AM LadyNorbert
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* There are two hard hits right early on in the prologue. One is your sibling, but arguably, Ser Wesley's death has more of an impact. It's interesting because if Hawke had met him anywhere else except for the Blight, he probably would've been hunting either you, your sister, or both of you. But he agrees that you have to work together. In spite of all your efforts it still isn't enough, he is being corrupted and there is only one option. If Aveline kills him, he whispers to her, "Be strong, my love." If you elect to do the deed yourself he looks at you, someone he didn't even know existed a few minutes ago, and simply whispers, "Thank you." The music at that point is truly heartbreaking. Also, another thing that makes his death all the more poignant is that he had just given a eulogy for your dead sibling. Makes you wonder if Wesley and Carver/Bethany met each other soon after their deaths.

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* There are two hard hits right early on in the prologue. One is your sibling, but arguably, Ser Wesley's death has more of an impact. It's interesting because if Hawke had met him anywhere else except for the Blight, he probably would've been hunting either you, you and/or your sister, or both of you.sister. But he agrees that you have to work together. In spite of all your efforts it still isn't enough, he is being corrupted and there is only one option. If Aveline kills him, he whispers to her, "Be strong, my love." If you elect to do the deed yourself he looks at you, someone he didn't even know existed a few minutes ago, and simply whispers, "Thank you." The music at that point is truly heartbreaking. Also, another thing that makes his death all the more poignant is that he had just given a eulogy for your dead sibling. Makes you wonder if Wesley and Carver/Bethany met each other soon after their deaths.



* Ghyslain de Carrac's tale. He's the initial quest giver for the SerialKiller plotline. At first, he seems like he's just some chauvinistic douche who wants his wife to be dragged home. However, by the end of the quest, it's obvious that he has genuine regrets about his marital problems with Ninette. [[spoiler: The somber tone in his voice when you give him Ninette's ring really makes it hard to not feel a little bad for the guy, especially if the player themselves has had relationship problems.]]

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* Ghyslain de Carrac's tale. He's the initial quest giver for the SerialKiller plotline. At first, he seems like he's just some chauvinistic douche who wants his wife to be dragged home. However, by the end of the quest, it's obvious that he has genuine regrets about his marital problems with Ninette. [[spoiler: The somber tone in his voice [[spoiler: when you give him Ninette's ring ring]] really makes it hard to not feel a little bad for the guy, especially when he mentions that they really were happy together once upon a time. It hits particularly hard if the player themselves has had relationship problems.]] problems.



* The ending to the subquest where a serial killer is let loose on Kirkwall. [[spoiler: Your mother mentions earlier in the game that she might want to remarry, or at least start dating again. Come this quest, you are on assignment by a Templar to track down a kidnapped woman. You find her in the company of an Orlesian blood mage. He claims that he is protecting the woman from a blood mage who is kidnapping women and killing them after delivering a bouquet of white flowers to his victims. It doesn't matter whether you kill the Orlesian or not. When you return to the Templar, you find him killed by abominations. You rush home, and your mother is missing...after having been delivered the white flowers. You follow a blood trail to the killer's hideout and battle your way through more demons when you reach her. It's clear she is far gone. Her face is emaciated and her throat is cut; she had been kept alive by necromancy in a mage's attempt to resurrect his wife. He kidnapped women who looked like her. Even after killing the mage, Leandra dies, but not before telling Hawke how proud of him/her she is. Seeing Gamlen in pure anguish afterwards, back at the estate, is heartbreaking.]]
** It's worse. [[spoiler: Only her head was actually there. The rest of her body was made up from pieces of the other women he had killed.]]

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* The ending to the subquest where a serial killer is let loose on Kirkwall. [[spoiler: Your mother mentions earlier in the game that she might want to remarry, or at least start dating again. Come this quest, you are on assignment by a Templar to track down a kidnapped woman. You find her in the company of an Orlesian blood mage. He claims that he is protecting the woman from a blood mage who is kidnapping women and killing them after delivering a bouquet of white flowers to his victims. It doesn't matter whether you kill the Orlesian or not. When you return to the Templar, you find him killed by abominations. You rush home, and your mother is missing...after having been delivered the white flowers. You follow a blood trail to the killer's hideout and battle your way through more demons when you reach her. It's clear she is far gone. Her face is emaciated and her throat is cut; she had has been kept alive by necromancy in a mage's attempt to resurrect his wife. He kidnapped women who looked like her.her, and Leandra was the last piece because she had a very similar face. Even after killing the mage, Leandra dies, but not before telling Hawke how proud of him/her she is. Seeing Gamlen in pure anguish afterwards, back at the estate, is heartbreaking.]]
** It's worse. [[spoiler: Only her head was actually there. The rest of her body was made up from pieces of the other women he had killed.]]]] And if you look carefully, [[spoiler:her eyes are ''different''. Quentin's remarks confirm that he ''removed her eyes too'', and gave her those of someone else]].



** It could be even worse. If you look carefully, [[spoiler:her eyes seem ''different''. It's very possible they were someone else's as well]].
** [[spoiler: The animation is absolutely brilliant for this. Also, if you're in a romance, your LI will come by your house afterward to offer condolences. It feels very real and very raw. You can also have a conversation with Aveline after the fact, in which she talks about mourning her father, and clicking on party members on your first outing after the murder will have them offer sympathy as well; anyone who has ever lost a loved one will be both touched and shattered by all the condolences.]]
** One of the dialogue options during the consolation is for Hawke to say that magic ruins everything. If you're wooing Merrill and if your a mage this is especially heartbreaking.
** Hearing the growing fear and desperation in [[spoiler:Hawke]]'s voice as they're following the blood trail, especially if [[spoiler:Hawke is normally a DeadpanSnarker]].
** What's even worse is that, looking back, [[spoiler: in Act 1, Hawke comes within moments of apprehending Quentin when s/he investigates the Foundry, arriving only to see the bastard book it back to his StalkerShrine. That's right, Hawke came within moments of preventing not only his/her mother's death, but the death of almost all the other women Quentin butchered as well as Ser Emeric's.]]
** [[spoiler: After Leandra's death, clicking on her door has Hawke mention they simply ''refuse'' to touch anything in [[ShrineToTheFallen the room]]. The DLC includes such small things as Hawke throwing coins into the fountain in ''Mark of the Assassin'' because it was a tradition Leandra enjoyed, as well as their DeadPersonConversation in ''Legacy''. All of this paints a very tragic picture that Hawke ''never'' quite gets over their mother's death and ''still'' carries it around with them as [[MyGreatestFailure their greatest failure]].]]

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** It could be even worse. If you look carefully, [[spoiler:her eyes seem ''different''. It's very possible they were someone else's as well]].
** [[spoiler: The animation is absolutely brilliant for this. Also, if you're in a romance, your LI will come by your house afterward to offer condolences. It feels very real and very raw. You raw; if Hawke hasn't romanced anyone, it's Aveline who "came as soon as I heard," and offers an invitation to come and talk with her later if you feel up to it. Regardless of who comes for that scene, Hawke can also have a conversation with Aveline after the fact, in which she talks about mourning her father, and clicking on party members on your first outing after the murder will have them offer sympathy as well; anyone who has ever lost a loved one will be both touched and shattered by all the condolences.]]
** One of the dialogue options during the consolation is for Hawke to say that magic ruins everything. If you're wooing Merrill and or Anders and/or if your you're a mage mage, this is especially heartbreaking.
** Hearing the growing fear and desperation in [[spoiler:Hawke]]'s voice as they're following the blood trail, especially if [[spoiler:Hawke is normally a DeadpanSnarker]].
DeadpanSnarker. No matter which personality Hawke has up to this point]], they sound ''terrified''.
** What's even worse is that, looking back, [[spoiler: in Act 1, Hawke comes within moments of apprehending Quentin when s/he investigates the Foundry, arriving only to see the bastard book it back to his StalkerShrine. That's right, right: Hawke came within moments of preventing not only his/her mother's death, but the death deaths of almost all the other women Quentin butchered as well as Ser Emeric's.]]
** [[spoiler: After Leandra's death, clicking on her door has Hawke mention that they simply ''refuse'' to touch anything in [[ShrineToTheFallen the room]]. The DLC includes such small things as Hawke throwing coins into the fountain in ''Mark of the Assassin'' because it was a tradition Leandra enjoyed, as well as their DeadPersonConversation in ''Legacy''. All of this paints a very tragic picture that Hawke ''never'' quite gets over their mother's death and ''still'' carries it around with them as [[MyGreatestFailure their greatest failure]].]]



* There is an optional conversation that Hawke can have with Bodahn. Bodahn tells Hawke that it is time for he and Sandal to be moving on. He (Bodahn) is getting old and he needs to see that Sandal is taken care of. Hawke can offer to care for Sandal but Bodahn turns down the offer, explaining that he and Sandal have been offered a place in Empress Celene's court in Orlais. At this point Hawke will turn away from Bodahn and face the fireplace (back to the camera). Then you realize that Hawke is coming to the realization that they are alone. Their father, mother and at least one of their siblings are dead. The other sibling is either also dead, is a Grey Warden, or is in the Gallows as a Circle Mage or a Templar. It serves to highlight that Hawke has utterly failed as the leader of the family despite their best efforts, and the toll it has taken on them. It becomes even more heartbreaking with a friendly Hawke: S/he goes above and beyond to help their companions with their fears, doubts, trials, and tribulations, but still ends up unable to resolve their own troubles. HurtingHero and HeartbrokenBadass, thy name is Hawke.

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* There is an optional conversation that Hawke can have with Bodahn. Bodahn tells Hawke that it is time for he him and Sandal to be moving on. He (Bodahn) is getting old and he needs to see that Sandal is taken care of. Hawke can offer to care for Sandal but Bodahn turns down the offer, explaining that he and Sandal have been offered a place in Empress Celene's court in Orlais. At this point Hawke will turn away from Bodahn and face the fireplace (back to the camera). Then you realize that Hawke is coming to the realization that they are alone. Their father, mother and at least one of their siblings are dead. The other sibling is either also dead, is a Grey Warden, or is in the Gallows as a Circle Mage or a Templar. It serves to highlight that Hawke has utterly failed as the leader of the family despite their best efforts, and the toll it has taken on them. It becomes even more heartbreaking with a friendly Hawke: S/he goes above and beyond to help their companions with their fears, doubts, trials, and tribulations, but still ends up unable to resolve their own troubles. HurtingHero and HeartbrokenBadass, thy name is Hawke.



* During the Templar endgame, just before [[spoiler:Orsino transforms himself into a Harvester]], he tells Hawke and Meredith of the irony that he has never actually used blood magic in his life before. The way he says this, however, with a bitter mix of resentment and resignation of someone given no choice but to live up to entirely false accusations in his voice is utterly heartbreaking.

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* During the Templar endgame, just before [[spoiler:Orsino transforms himself into a Harvester]], he tells Hawke and Meredith of the irony that he has never actually used blood magic in his life before.up to this point. The way he says this, however, with a bitter mix of resentment and resignation of someone given no choice but to live up to entirely false accusations in his voice is utterly heartbreaking.



** [[spoiler: Though if Hawke lives in ''Inquisition'', in the ''Trespasser'' DLC s/he returns to Kirkwall to work together with Varric, who was elected Viscount.]]

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** [[spoiler: Though if Hawke lives in ''Inquisition'', in the ''Trespasser'' DLC s/he returns to Kirkwall to work together with Varric, who was elected Viscount. So there is a HopeSpot.]]



** Fighting [[spoiler: Meredith]] with Bethany at your side, [[spoiler: working to free the other mages,]] is so cathartic at the end, even with [[spoiler: Anders' meltdown]].

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** Fighting [[spoiler: Meredith]] with Bethany at your side, [[spoiler: working to free the other mages,]] is so cathartic at the end, even with [[spoiler: Anders' Anders's meltdown]].



** For bonus tears, if it's Bethany? [[spoiler:Listen to Varric. The man is ''devastated.'' Major voice acting props to Creator/BrianBloom, because if Hawke's own broken heart doesn't move the player to tears, Varric's ''will.'' Not only that, but the way he talks about the matter when they get back to Kirkwall just lets you know that he will never, ever stop blaming himself for her death. "Oh, Sunshine," indeed.]]

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** For bonus tears, if it's Bethany? [[spoiler:Listen to Varric. The man is ''devastated.'' Major voice acting props to Creator/BrianBloom, because if Hawke's own broken heart doesn't move the player to tears, Varric's ''will.'' Not only that, but clicking on him throughout the way he talks about the matter when they get back next act will sometimes prompt him to Kirkwall say, "Poor Sunshine. Bartrand will pay for her death, I promise you." Varric is openly affectionate with Bethany, arguably more than with any other character, and you just lets you know that he will never, ever stop blaming himself for her death.fate. "Oh, Sunshine," indeed.]]



** This can add a Tear Jerker by extension, depending on how the player approached ''Awakening'', but Anders mentions giving the cat to a friend in Amaranthine. Imagine the news getting back to the Warden-Commander that his/her good friend, the cat lover, has given up his pet and (as far as the Wardens know) gone on his Calling. [[spoiler:And then imagine the same Warden-Commander later finding out what ''really'' happened to Anders...]]



** Oh, a little sidebar for extra damage? [[spoiler: The mage Anders possibly kills at the end of "Dissent"]] is mentioned earlier in the game in a letter from Bethany if she's [[spoiler: at the Circle.]] Apparently, the two mages are friends, and Bethany is the mage's CoolBigSis. Ouch.



** * Merrill and Fenris even have a small conversation about Anders in Act 3, and Merrill says she feels sorry for him because he's broken the thing he was trying to save. It's heartbreaking, especially considering how nasty he is to her.

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** * Oh, a little sidebar for extra damage? [[spoiler: The mage Anders possibly kills at the end of "Dissent"]] is mentioned earlier in the game in a letter from Bethany if she's [[spoiler: at the Circle.]] Apparently, the two mages are friends, and Bethany is the mage's CoolBigSis. Ouch.
* Merrill and Fenris even have a small conversation about Anders in Act 3, and Merrill says she feels sorry for him because he's broken the thing he was trying to save. It's heartbreaking, especially considering how nasty he is to her.



* During certain points in the first two acts Hawke can flirt with Aveline. This becomes a tearjerker when Aveline approaches Hawke about her feelings for Donnic and asks for help. During the quest, Hawke can all but outright state that they are in love with Aveline, but Aveline is too focused on Donnic to notice. And all this time Hawke can be doing all they can to help Aveline get her man. It's heartbreaking to see Hawke doing all they can to say that while Donnic might not be interested that they ''are'' and to have Aveline not notice until after hooking up with Donnic. Can double as heartwarming if Hawke helps her get Donnic. IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy indeed.
** This is punctuated by a fairly clever use of the dialogue wheel. When Hawke wishes to end a romance with a companion they just have to select the broken heart symbol when it appears. During the last bit of dialogue after Aveline gets together with Donnic one of the options is a broken heart with the words "Just be happy." Hawke breaks their own heart for Aveline's happiness.
* There's a conversation with Aveline in Act 3 where she mentions that, according to the Fereldan army, she has been assumed dead for the past seven years, since few survived Ostagar. Her recollection of the battle is heartbreaking, because it recalls that sinking feeling as Loghain withdrew, leaving those who looked at the beacon on top of the Tower of Ishal, expecting salvation, with nothing. She mentions that any officer who returns to Ferelden will be reinstated with honors by King Alistair, but it's clear from both her tone and Hawke's that, were they to return, they would [[StrangerInAFamiliarLand be out of their element, though back home]]. It just shows how much the years in Kirkwall have changed all of them.

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* During certain points in the first two acts acts, Hawke can flirt with Aveline. This becomes a tearjerker when Aveline approaches Hawke about her feelings for Donnic and asks for help. During the quest, Hawke can all but outright state that they are in love with Aveline, but Aveline is too focused on Donnic to notice. And all this time Hawke can be doing all they can to help Aveline get her man. It's heartbreaking to see Hawke doing all they can to say that while Donnic might not be interested that they ''are'' and to have Aveline not notice until after hooking up with Donnic. Can double as heartwarming if Hawke helps her get Donnic. IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy, indeed.
** This is punctuated by a fairly clever use of the dialogue wheel. When Hawke wishes to end a romance with a companion they just have to select the broken heart symbol when it appears. During the last bit of dialogue after Aveline gets together with Donnic Donnic, one of the options is a broken heart with the words "Just be happy." Hawke breaks their own heart for Aveline's happiness.
* There's a conversation with Aveline in Act 3 where she mentions that, according to the Fereldan army, she has been assumed dead for the past seven years, since few survived Ostagar. Her recollection of the battle is heartbreaking, because it recalls that sinking feeling as Loghain withdrew, leaving those who looked at the beacon on top of the Tower of Ishal, expecting salvation, with nothing. She mentions that any officer who returns to Ferelden will be reinstated with honors by King Alistair, Alistair/Queen Anora, but it's clear from both her tone and Hawke's that, were they to return, they would [[StrangerInAFamiliarLand be out of their element, though back home]]. It just shows how much the years in Kirkwall have changed all of them.




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* If Hawke instead duels the Arishok, and Isabela remains free, she ''runs away again''. And then comes back. And continues to avoid Hawke as much as possible for the next two years. It can make resuming the friendship feel more than a little awkward, but it ventures into this trope when you realize that Isabela feels so much shame and remorse for dragging Hawke into everything that she has a hard time so much as looking them in the eye, and spends most of her time trying to drown her emotions in alcohol.



*** Merrill even all but concedes to their cold words (not by name but by an acknowledgement of what they've often snapped at her about) by "Merrill, Friend Or Foe?" if you pursue her rivalry path (which is very easy to pursue with [[spoiler:Forbidden Knowledge in Act 2, as you can seek out the evil tomes even if you killed Idunna, which will be quest marked (though their locations are not stated) after finding the first one; destroying each one gives a hefty rivalry boost and a final quest point]]), and while some of the dialogue in the midst of pursuing her rivalry can have Hawke genuinely be concerned for her well-being as she grows angrier about his/her potential and likely "betrayal" involving the Eluvian, she becomes more reclusive around him/her as a result. The rivalry branch of her specialization tree really compounds this, as when compared to most of the others' (Fenris' is "agree[ing] to disagree," Isabela's is like a beleaguered husband [her] avoiding his argumentative wife [Hawke], Varric will tell Hawke's story whether he likes it or not, etc.), hers is much more personal: "Accepted nowhere, Merrill has learned that she can depend only on herself."

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*** Merrill even all but concedes to their cold words (not by name but by an acknowledgement of what they've often snapped at her about) by "Merrill, Friend Or Foe?" if you pursue her rivalry path (which is very easy to pursue with [[spoiler:Forbidden Knowledge in Act 2, as you can seek out the evil tomes even if you killed Idunna, which will be quest marked (though their locations are not stated) after finding the first one; destroying each one gives a hefty rivalry boost and a final quest point]]), and while some of the dialogue in the midst of pursuing her rivalry can have Hawke genuinely be concerned for her well-being as she grows angrier about his/her potential and likely "betrayal" involving the Eluvian, she becomes more reclusive around him/her as a result. The rivalry branch of her specialization tree really compounds this, as when compared to most of the others' (Fenris' is "agree[ing] to disagree," Isabela's is like a beleaguered husband [her] avoiding his argumentative wife [Hawke], Varric will tell Hawke's story whether he Hawke likes it or not, etc.), hers is much more personal: "Accepted nowhere, Merrill has learned that she can depend only on herself."



* [[spoiler:Larius' or Janeka]]'s fates at the end of Legacy. [[spoiler:The former has been a ghoul desperately fighting Corypheus's influence for decades after his Calling, and the latter is a WellIntentionedExtremist who thinks she could potentially stop all future [[TheCorruption Blights]] by taking control of Corypheus]]. No matter what you do, [[spoiler:one is killed by the other]] and [[spoiler:Corypheus ends up possessing the survivor of the final battle]].
* There's one in ''Legacy'' if Varric is in the party when Hawke finishes the optional side quest "The Paragon's Heir." After Hawke speaks the traditional dwarven prayer for the dead, Varric remarks that it's very sweet, but he'd like to leave before anyone sees him cry. Given how choked up he sounds, and knowing that Hawke has just given this rite for one of Varric's distant relatives, you realize that the snarky dwarf ''really is on the verge of tears''.

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* [[spoiler:Larius' The fate of [[spoiler:Larius or Janeka]]'s fates Janeka]] at the end of Legacy.the DLC. [[spoiler:The former has been a ghoul desperately fighting Corypheus's influence for decades after his Calling, and the latter is a WellIntentionedExtremist who thinks she could potentially stop all future [[TheCorruption Blights]] by taking control of Corypheus]]. No matter what you do, [[spoiler:one is killed by the other]] and [[spoiler:Corypheus ends up possessing the survivor of the final battle]].
* There's one in ''Legacy'' if Varric is in the party when Hawke finishes form of the optional side quest "The Paragon's Heir." It's especially moving if Varric is in the party.
** First, the backstory of the quest itself. A few ages earlier, a noble dwarf named Tethras Garen was found guilty of murdering his own sister and sentenced to the Deep Roads. As the quest components are found, Varric remembers why the name sounds familiar; it was eventually discovered that the Carta was responsible for the murder, not the young man, and his father - Paragon Garen - kept sending members of the Legion of the Dead to find his son and bring him back, but no one ever returned from the quest. When the family finally gave him up for lost, they decided to honor his memory by changing the family name to Tethras. One of Tethras Garen's siblings was Varric's direct ancestor.
** The last note of the quest explains ''why'' no one ever found Tethras Garen: everyone who searched for him ended up in the Warden stronghold in the Vimmark Mountains, which was deliberately designed to trap any darkspawn who wandered into it, and is impossible to escape. (Doubles as a bit of NightmareFuel when you remember that ''this is where you are right now''.) The Legionnaire who wrote the final note was despairing because he would soon die and there was no one left to perform the traditional rite and return his soul to the Stone, nor had there been anyone to do it for Tethras.
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After Hawke speaks the traditional dwarven prayer for the dead, Varric remarks that it's very sweet, but he'd like to leave before anyone sees him cry. Given how choked up he sounds, and knowing that Hawke has just given this rite for one of Varric's distant relatives, you realize that the snarky dwarf ''really is on the verge of tears''.
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