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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to [[HeroicBSOD break down]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and run away]]. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]" to herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to [[HeroicBSOD break down]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere suffer a HeroicBSOD and run away]].off. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]" to herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]" to herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD [[HeroicBSOD break down]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere.run away]]. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]" to herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* Later, Bear!Elinor, [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody when she starts acting like a real bear again]], accidentally hurts not only Merida but also Fergus and snaps out of it and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone looks horrified when she sees what she's done]].
* Bear!Elinor's reactions to her transformation. The sheer panic and fear that she was going through. But what made it worse was after Merida and her visit the witch's (now empty) house, where Merida breaks down and admits what she wanted and why she did it. One can see the shock in Elinor's eyes, and its obvious that she's thinking along the lines of; "My own daughter did this to me..." as well as potential confusion as to "why?" she did it.
** The sad part is that scene, especially with Bear!Elinor stumbling around in panic was treated as comedic effect.
* Bear!Elinor's big sad, frightened eyes as she realizes she's about to be killed by her own husband. Possibly those eyes are getting to Fergus - along with his daughter's desperate defense of the bear - but the sight of three identical bear cubs is what finally convinces him most of his family has been magically turned into bears.
* Bear!Elinor's reactions to her transformation. The sheer panic and fear that she was going through. But what made it worse was after Merida and her visit the witch's (now empty) house, where Merida breaks down and admits what she wanted and why she did it. One can see the shock in Elinor's eyes, and its obvious that she's thinking along the lines of; "My own daughter did this to me..." as well as potential confusion as to "why?" she did it.
** The sad part is that scene, especially with Bear!Elinor stumbling around in panic was treated as comedic effect.
* Bear!Elinor's big sad, frightened eyes as she realizes she's about to be killed by her own husband. Possibly those eyes are getting to Fergus - along with his daughter's desperate defense of the bear - but the sight of three identical bear cubs is what finally convinces him most of his family has been magically turned into bears.
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* Later, Bear!Elinor, Later, Elinor, [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody when she starts acting like a real bear again]], accidentally hurts not only Merida but also Fergus and snaps out of it and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone looks horrified when she sees what she's done]].
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers ''"[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone "[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]"'' done?]]" to herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* During the argument Merifa cuts in half Elinor's veloved tapestry while she says she would rather die. Granted Merida's anger and frustration are understandable at this point but damaging a tapestry that her mother has woven since Merida's childhood is going too far; no wonder Elinor snaps.
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* During the argument Merifa cuts in half Elinor's veloved tapestry while she says she would rather die. Granted Merida's anger and frustration are understandable at this point but damaging a tapestry that her mother has woven since Merida's childhood is going too far; no wonder Elinor snaps.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers ''"[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]"'' to herself, confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. She even bursts into tears and whispers ''"[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]"'' to herself, herself (pictured above), confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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** Made even worse when, as an adult, when you realize that, outside of the Pixar universe, what Elinor did qualifies as straight-up emotional abuse. Destroying a child's property has the potential to scar them for life.
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** During the fight Merida screams, "I would rather ''die'' than be like you." to her mother. Words said thoughtlessly in anger? Yes. Teenage emotions coupled with the adolescent propensity to say cruel or harsh things melodramatically? Yes. It doesn't make the expression on Elinor's face any less wrenching.
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** During the fight Merida screams, "I would rather ''die'' than be like you." to her mother. Words said thoughtlessly in anger? Yes. Teenage emotions coupled with the adolescent propensity to say cruel or harsh things melodramatically? Yes. Words that are, at least at that point, definitely true? ''Yes.'' It doesn't make the expression on Elinor's face any less wrenching.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[HeroicBSOD because she]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[HeroicBSOD because she]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feels so guilty.]]She even bursts into tears and whispers ''"[[MyGodWhatHaveIDone What have I done?]]"'' to herself, confirming that she has realized that she went ''way'' too far.
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* [[spoiler:Merida tearfully apologizes to her mother after she doesn't immediately turn human after the second sunrise. Becomes heartwarming when she actually does.]]
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* [[spoiler:Merida Merida, realizing how her own actions caused the film's chain of events, tearfully apologizes to her mother after she doesn't immediately turn human after the second sunrise. Becomes heartwarming when she actually does.]]
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** The focus is on Merida and Elinor, but there's also a shot of Fergus just [[spoiler: looking sadly down at the triplets]]. Merida's actions didn't just put Elinor in danger, they almost [[spoiler: destroyed three small boys' futures, and tore apart the entire family]]. Just imagine how things almost turned out.
* [[spoiler:Merida desperately trying to get out of the tower, only to sink into the ground in despair.]] It was temporary, but it was horrible to see Merida so broken.
* Merida and Elinor's first night in the witch's ruined cottage, where the flashback to her mother singing her a song and holding her close to comfort her not only reminds Merida of [[spoiler:all she will lose if she doesn't break the spell]], but that far from manipulating her or trying to unfairly control her life, everything Elinor had done was out of love for her. Which Elinor herself had said earlier, albeit [[TwoScenesOneDialogue not to Merida]] [[RuleOfDrama as she should have]].
** From the scene mentioned above: "I'm right here. I'll always be right here." Here come the water works.
* Fergus' reaction to [[spoiler: finding what seems to be the remains of a bear attacking his wife. [[MistakenForOwnMurderer Regardless of the fact that it was actually his wife transforming]] ''[[MistakenForOwnMurderer into]]'' [[MistakenForOwnMurderer said bear, you can see the horror and pain on his face when he thinks his wife is dead]] and it's just heart breaking.]]
* [[spoiler:Later, Bear!Elinor, [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody when she starts acting like a real bear again]], accidentally hurts not only Merida but also Fergus and snaps out of it and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone looks horrified when she sees what she's done]].]]
* [[spoiler: Bear!Elinor's reactions to her transformation. The sheer panic and fear that she was going through. But what made it worse was after Merida and her visit the witch's (now empty) house, where Merida breaks down and admits what she wanted and why she did it. One can see the shock in Elinor's eyes, and its obvious that she's thinking along the lines of; "My own daughter did this to me..." as well as potential confusion as to "why?" she did it.]]
* [[spoiler:Merida desperately trying to get out of the tower, only to sink into the ground in despair.]] It was temporary, but it was horrible to see Merida so broken.
* Merida and Elinor's first night in the witch's ruined cottage, where the flashback to her mother singing her a song and holding her close to comfort her not only reminds Merida of [[spoiler:all she will lose if she doesn't break the spell]], but that far from manipulating her or trying to unfairly control her life, everything Elinor had done was out of love for her. Which Elinor herself had said earlier, albeit [[TwoScenesOneDialogue not to Merida]] [[RuleOfDrama as she should have]].
** From the scene mentioned above: "I'm right here. I'll always be right here." Here come the water works.
* Fergus' reaction to [[spoiler: finding what seems to be the remains of a bear attacking his wife. [[MistakenForOwnMurderer Regardless of the fact that it was actually his wife transforming]] ''[[MistakenForOwnMurderer into]]'' [[MistakenForOwnMurderer said bear, you can see the horror and pain on his face when he thinks his wife is dead]] and it's just heart breaking.]]
* [[spoiler:Later, Bear!Elinor, [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody when she starts acting like a real bear again]], accidentally hurts not only Merida but also Fergus and snaps out of it and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone looks horrified when she sees what she's done]].]]
* [[spoiler: Bear!Elinor's reactions to her transformation. The sheer panic and fear that she was going through. But what made it worse was after Merida and her visit the witch's (now empty) house, where Merida breaks down and admits what she wanted and why she did it. One can see the shock in Elinor's eyes, and its obvious that she's thinking along the lines of; "My own daughter did this to me..." as well as potential confusion as to "why?" she did it.]]
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** The focus is on Merida and Elinor, but there's also a shot of Fergus just [[spoiler: looking sadly down at the triplets]]. triplets. Merida's actions didn't just put Elinor in danger, they almost [[spoiler: destroyed three small boys' futures, and tore apart the entire family]].family. Just imagine how things almost turned out.
*[[spoiler:Merida Merida desperately trying to get out of the tower, only to sink into the ground in despair.]] despair. It was temporary, but it was horrible to see Merida so broken.
* Merida and Elinor's first night in the witch's ruined cottage, where the flashback to her mother singing her a song and holding her close to comfort her not only reminds Merida of[[spoiler:all all she will lose if she doesn't break the spell]], spell, but that far from manipulating her or trying to unfairly control her life, everything Elinor had done was out of love for her. Which Elinor herself had said earlier, albeit [[TwoScenesOneDialogue not to Merida]] [[RuleOfDrama as she should have]].
** From the scene mentioned above: "I'm right here. I'll always be right here." Here come thewater works.
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* Fergus' reaction to[[spoiler: finding what seems to be the remains of a bear attacking his wife. [[MistakenForOwnMurderer Regardless of the fact that it was actually his wife transforming]] ''[[MistakenForOwnMurderer into]]'' [[MistakenForOwnMurderer said bear, you can see the horror and pain on his face when he thinks his wife is dead]] and it's just heart breaking.]]
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*[[spoiler:Later, Later, Bear!Elinor, [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody when she starts acting like a real bear again]], accidentally hurts not only Merida but also Fergus and snaps out of it and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone looks horrified when she sees what she's done]].]]
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** Another thing to consider is the Will' O' the Wisps that guide Merida to Mor'du's lair. It's likely that these were the spirits of his family and former subjects that he killed when he was turned into the demonic bear that we see in the film. They may understand the pain he is in and are trying to get someone to help him out of the never ending nightmare he is stuck in.
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* The WillOTheWisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
* [[http://briannathestrange.tumblr.com/post/91791888622 Merida hugging her mother.]]
* the fact Disney decided to shit all over her character in the Princess scene of Wreck-it Raplh II.
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* The WillOTheWisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
* [[http://briannathestrange.tumblr.com/post/91791888622 Merida hugging her mother.]]
* the fact Disney decided to shit all over her character in the Princess scene of Wreck-it Raplh II.
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** Another thing to consider is the Will' O' the Wisps that guide Merida to Mor'du's lair. It's likely that these were the spirits of his family and former subjects that he killed when he was turned into the demonic bear that we see in the film. They may understand the pain he is in and are trying to get someone to help him out of the never ending never-ending nightmare he is stuck in.
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* The WillOTheWisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
* [[http://briannathestrange.tumblr.com/post/91791888622 Merida hugging her mother.]]
* the fact Disney decided to shit all over her character in the Princess scene of Wreck-it Raplh II.in.
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* The WillOTheWisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
* [[http://briannathestrange.tumblr.com/post/91791888622 Merida hugging her mother.]]
* the fact Disney decided to shit all over her character in the Princess scene of Wreck-it Raplh II.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[HeroicBSOD because she]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[HeroicBSOD because she]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feels so guilty.]]
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** Made even worse when, as an adult, when you realize that, outside of the Pixar universe, what Elinor did qualifies as straight-up emotional abuse. Destroying a child's property has the potential to scar them for life.
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* the fact Disney decided to shit all over her character in the Princess scene of Wreck-it Raplh II.
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* Mor'du may initially come off as a mindless monster, but as the story progresses, the audience is given contextual clues that hint at how truly tragic a villain he is:
** While exploring the ruined castle, Merida finds an ancient stone carving of the noble family that once inhabited it. One of the brothers depicted has been clawed almost beyond recognition; that was Mor'du as a human. While Mor'du seems mindless, it's clear that he retains just enough sentience to remember his crimes as a human and hates himself for it.
** Mor'du's attacks on humans may not all have been driven by mindless rage. His current existence is unimaginably horrific because he still manages to remember who he once was; [[AndIMustScream buried deep inside the monster is a human soul longing for an escape]]. [[ICannotSelfTerminate Because of the curse, he cannot simply kill himself]] and thus [[SuicideByCop he seeks out humans to attack in the hope that someone will finally be able to put him out of his misery]].
** Another thing to consider is the Will' O' the Wisps that guide Merida to Mor'du's lair. It's likely that these were the spirits of his family and former subjects that he killed when he was turned into the demonic bear that we see in the film. They may understand the pain he is in and are trying to get someone to help him out of the never ending nightmare he is stuck in.
** While exploring the ruined castle, Merida finds an ancient stone carving of the noble family that once inhabited it. One of the brothers depicted has been clawed almost beyond recognition; that was Mor'du as a human. While Mor'du seems mindless, it's clear that he retains just enough sentience to remember his crimes as a human and hates himself for it.
** Mor'du's attacks on humans may not all have been driven by mindless rage. His current existence is unimaginably horrific because he still manages to remember who he once was; [[AndIMustScream buried deep inside the monster is a human soul longing for an escape]]. [[ICannotSelfTerminate Because of the curse, he cannot simply kill himself]] and thus [[SuicideByCop he seeks out humans to attack in the hope that someone will finally be able to put him out of his misery]].
** Another thing to consider is the Will' O' the Wisps that guide Merida to Mor'du's lair. It's likely that these were the spirits of his family and former subjects that he killed when he was turned into the demonic bear that we see in the film. They may understand the pain he is in and are trying to get someone to help him out of the never ending nightmare he is stuck in.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of,Elinor only wants to sell her daughter in marriage and for Merida to be the humanly impossible perfect ideal she thought she should be, not caring what Merida wants or needs. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of,Elinor of, while Elinor only wants to sell her daughter in marriage and for Merida to be the humanly impossible perfect ideal she thought she should be, not caring what Merida wants or needs. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of, while Merida only considers her a ControlFreak. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of, while of,Elinor only wants to sell her daughter in marriage and for Merida only considers her a ControlFreak.to be the humanly impossible perfect ideal she thought she should be, not caring what Merida wants or needs. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of, while Merida only sees Elinor as considers her a major ControlFreak. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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** The argument itself was pretty heartbreaking. Merida and Elinor tried to work things out with each other and to get one another to see from their point of view, but they're both too stubborn to see the other's side. There's so much negativity stewing between them that all that's left of their once happy relationship is them screaming each other down and running off.
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** The argument itself was pretty heartbreaking. Merida and Elinor tried to work things out with each other and to get one another to see from their point of view, but they're both too stubborn to see the other's side. There's so much negativity stewing between them that all that's left of their once happy relationship is them screaming each other down and running off. ATragedyOfImpulsiveness, indeed.
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally causes Merida to suffer a HeroicBSOD and pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[HeroicBSOD because she]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally drives Merida away. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally drives causes Merida away.to pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of, while Merida only sees Elinor as a major ControlFreak. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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* In general, how the relationship between Elinor and Merida is. The beginning shows that they were very close to each.each other. But as Merida grew older, she became more and more of something her mother didn't approve of, while Merida only sees Elinor as a major ControlFreak. They can hardly have a proper conversation without getting into an argument.
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** During the fight Merida screams, "I would rather DIE than be like you." to her mother. Words said thoughtlessly in anger? Yes. Teenage emotions coupled with the adolescent propensity to say cruel or harsh things melodramatically? Yes. It doesn't make the expression on Elinor's face any less wrenching.
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** During the fight Merida screams, "I would rather DIE ''die'' than be like you." to her mother. Words said thoughtlessly in anger? Yes. Teenage emotions coupled with the adolescent propensity to say cruel or harsh things melodramatically? Yes. It doesn't make the expression on Elinor's face any less wrenching.
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** What really clinches it is the reprise of 'Noble Maiden Fair' being sung softly in the background.
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** What really clinches it is the reprise of 'Noble "Noble Maiden Fair' Fair" being sung softly in the background.
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* Bear!Elinor's big sad, frightened eyes as she realizes she's about to be killed by her own husband. Possibly those eyes are getting to Fergus - along with his daughter's desperate defense of the bear - but the sight of three identical bear cubs is what finally convinces him most of his family has been magically turned into bears.
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* The will-o-wisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
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* The will-o-wisp WillOTheWisp appearing in the end credits above the dedication "To Steve Jobs, Our Mentor, Partner, and Friend" also qualifies.
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* In the first half of the movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally drives Merida away. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]
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* In what is often cited as the first half best part of the whole movie, during a huge argument, Elinor throws Merida's treasured bow into the fire. That's what finally drives Merida away. Then, ''after Merida's already gone,'' Elinor suddenly turns and sees the bow in the fireplace...and frantically tries to dig it out but it's too late, the bow's already too burnt. [[TearsOfRemorse Elinor starts crying hysterically]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone because she feels so guilty.]]