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--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler:I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir.]] Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. [[HeWhoFightsMonsters I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against.]] You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. [[spoiler:But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
--> '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!
--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andi,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
--> '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!
--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andi,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman''':
'''Batman:''' You know I can't let you do
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]]
[[spoiler:'''Andrea:''']] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to
--> '''Batman''':
'''Batman:''' But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance
--> [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]]
[[spoiler:'''Andrea:''']] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's
--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)''
'''Batman:''' ''[silent pause]'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andi,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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-->'''Joker:''' What are you doing?! Let me go or we'll both die!
-->'''Batman:''' [[MurderSuicide Whatever it takes!]]
-->'''Batman:''' [[MurderSuicide Whatever it takes!]]
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-->'''Joker:''' What are you doing?! Let me go or we'll both die!
-->'''Batman:'''die!\\
'''Batman:''' [[MurderSuicide Whatever it takes!]]
-->'''Batman:'''
'''Batman:''' [[MurderSuicide Whatever it takes!]]
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* The flashback in which Bruce receives the "Dear John" letter from Andrea.
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* The flashback in which Bruce receives the "Dear John" Bruce" letter from Andrea.
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have [[spoiler:taken Andrea back]] despite what [[spoiler:she's]] done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls [[spoiler:Andrea]] a murderer and [[spoiler: Andrea]] doesn't seem to care anymore.
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have [[spoiler:taken Andrea back]] despite what [[spoiler:she's]] done. Yet, when they meet again in the tie-in comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls [[spoiler:Andrea]] a murderer and [[spoiler: Andrea]] doesn't seem to care anymore.
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-->'''Batman:''' [[MurderSuicide Whatever it takes!takes!]]
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-->'''Joker:''' What are you doing?! Let me go or we'll both die!
-->'''Batman:''' Whatever it takes!
-->'''Joker:''' What are you doing?! Let me go or we'll both die!
-->'''Batman:''' Whatever it takes!
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* The shock and horror in Andrea's voice [[spoiler:when she sees pre-transformation Joker leaving her house and realizing that he just killed her father. Not to mention the bloodcurdling scream she lets out when she sees the body.]]
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--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler:I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir.]] Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. [[spoiler:But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler:I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir.]] Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. [[HeWhoFightsMonsters I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. against.]] You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. [[spoiler:But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andy]]... what will vengeance solve?
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--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andy]]...Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andy,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andy,]] Andi,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: And,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: And,]] Andy,]] now. ''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?
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--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]...Andy]]... what will vengeance solve?
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andy,]] now. ''Please.''
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andy,]] And,]] now. ''Please.''''[[AintTooProudToBeg Please.]]''
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--> '''Batman:''': ''(silent pause)'' Leave, [[spoiler: Andy,]] now. ''Please.''
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* ''"I didn't count on being happy."'' - Batman pleads with his (dead) parents and himself to let himself go from the path of vengeance of vigilantism in exchange for happiness with Andrea.
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* ''"I didn't count on being happy."'' - Batman Bruce [[DeadPersonConversation pleads with his (dead) parents dead parents]] and himself to let himself go from the path of vengeance of vigilantism in exchange for happiness with Andrea.
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* The flashback, in which Bruce receives the "Dear John" letter.
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* The flashback, flashback in which Bruce receives the "Dear John" letter.letter from Andrea.
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have [[spoiler: taken Andrea back]] despite what [[spoiler: she's]] done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls [[spoiler: Andrea]] a "murderer", and [[spoiler: Andrea]] doesn't seem to care anymore.
* Bruce's despair at the end and Alfred's speech also counts:
--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
* Bruce's despair at the end and Alfred's speech also counts:
--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have [[spoiler: taken [[spoiler:taken Andrea back]] despite what [[spoiler: she's]] [[spoiler:she's]] done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls [[spoiler: Andrea]] [[spoiler:Andrea]] a "murderer", murderer and [[spoiler: Andrea]] doesn't seem to care anymore.
* Bruce's despair at the end and Alfred'sspeech also counts:
speech:
--> '''Alfred''':[[spoiler: I [[spoiler:I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. sir.]] Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But [[spoiler:But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
* Bruce's despair at the end and Alfred's
--> '''Alfred''':
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* Realizing that Andrea may quite possibly be the only person who could understand Bruce completely and totally, yet unlike Bruce, [[spoiler: lost herself to her desire to punish criminals long ago, something that Bruce regularly fights against within himself every time he puts on the cowl.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
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* Realizing that Andrea may quite possibly be the only person who could understand Bruce completely and totally, yet totally yet, unlike Bruce, [[spoiler: lost [[spoiler:lost herself to her desire to punish criminals long ago, something that Bruce regularly fights against within himself every time he puts on the cowl.]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] [[spoiler:'''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.you.
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': '''Andrea''':]] They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.\\]]
'''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.\\
[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!\\
'''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?\\
[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
'''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.\\
[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!\\
'''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance solve?\\
[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.\\]]
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--> '''Batman''': You know I can't let you dothat.\\
that.
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had topay!\\
pay!
--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeancesolve?\\
solve?
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
--> '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to
--> '''Batman''': But [[spoiler: Andi]]... what will vengeance
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.\\
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way.\\\\]]
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'''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!\\
'''Batman''': But Andi... what will vengeance solve?\\
'''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
'''Batman''': But Andi... what will vengeance solve?\\
'''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].\\
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].way.\\
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[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!\\
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[[spoiler: '''Andrea''':]] If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have taken Andrea back despite what she's done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls Andrea a "murderer", and Andrea doesn't seem to care anymore.
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have [[spoiler: taken Andrea back back]] despite what she's [[spoiler: she's]] done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls Andrea [[spoiler: Andrea]] a "murderer", and Andrea [[spoiler: Andrea]] doesn't seem to care anymore.
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'''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!\\
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'''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': But Andi...what would vengeance solve?]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': But Andi...what would vengeance solve?]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].]]
--> [[spoiler:\\
'''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.]]
--> [[spoiler:\\
'''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had topay!]]
--> [[spoiler:pay!\\
'''Batman''': ButAndi...Andi... what would will vengeance solve?]]
--> [[spoiler:solve?\\
'''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
--> [[spoiler:
'''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.
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'''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to
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'''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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* Realizing that Andrea may quite possibly be the only person who could understand Bruce completely and totally, yet unlike Bruce, [[spoiler: lost herself to her desire to punish criminals long ago, something that Bruce regularly fights against within himself every time he puts on the cowl.]]
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* Realizing that Andrea may quite possibly be the only person who could understand Bruce completely and totally, yet unlike Bruce, [[spoiler: lost herself to her desire to punish criminals long ago, something that Bruce regularly fights against within himself every time he puts on the cowl.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': But Andi...what would vengeance solve?]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': They took everything from me, Bruce. My dad. My life. You. I'm not saying it's right or even sane but it's all I have left. [[ThenLetMeBeEvil So either help me or get out of the way]].]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': You know I can't let you do that.]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': Look what they did to us! What we could've had! They had to pay!]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Batman''': But Andi...what would vengeance solve?]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Andrea''': If anyone knows the answer to that, Bruce, it's you.]]
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have taken Andrea back despite what she's done.
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** What makes it worse is that, in the end, Bruce ''would'' have taken Andrea back despite what she's done. Yet, when they meet again in the comics, it might have been too late. Bruce calls Andrea a "murderer", and Andrea doesn't seem to care anymore.
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--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night. But you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago. And no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night. But night, but you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago. And ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
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* "I Never Even Told You" by Tia Carrere. [[SuspiciouslyApproposMusic Its lyrics in context with the film are heartbreaking.]]
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* "I Never Even Told You" by Tia Carrere. [[SuspiciouslyApproposMusic [[SuspiciouslyAproposMusic Its lyrics in context with the film are heartbreaking.]]
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* Realizing that Andrea may quite possibly be the only person who could understand Bruce completely and totally, yet unlike Bruce, [[spoiler: lost herself to her desire to punish criminals long ago, something that Bruce regularly fights against within himself every time he puts on the cowl.]]
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** Even worse is the moment right before. [[spoiler:Bruce looks at the cowl, the last piece to put on, and stares at it. It's his one last chance to back away from his vow and start over. He puts it on and never looked back.]]
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** Even worse is the moment right before. [[spoiler:Bruce looks at the cowl, the last piece to put on, and stares at it. It's his one last chance to back away from his vow and start over. He puts put it on and never looked back.]]
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* Bruce's despair at the end and Alfred's speech also counts:
--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night. But you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago. And no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
--> '''Alfred''': [[spoiler: I don't think she wanted to be saved, sir. Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night. But you haven't fallen in and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago. And no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]