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15th May '15 3:20:38 PM TVRulezAgain
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler:Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "''hard''" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "''reveal''" of Lucy's role in the prior games was in the form of a vision ''from Juno'' for Clay to see[[/note]] were little more than Juno's deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen.]] Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times, not least since [[spoiler:he eventually denies William's attempt to tell him that his stabbing of Lucy was 'just' Juno's mind control[[note]]William essentially declaring Desmond innocent[[/note]] and declares that it was his decision, but when Desmond's claimed decision was made on possibly false claims by a BiggerBad with an agenda]]...

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler:Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "''hard''" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "''reveal''" of Lucy's role in the prior games was in the form of a vision ''from Juno'' for Clay to see[[/note]] were little more than Juno's deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen.]] Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times, not least since [[spoiler:he eventually denies William's attempt to tell him that his stabbing of Lucy was 'just' Juno's mind control[[note]]William essentially declaring Desmond innocent[[/note]] and declares that it was his decision, but when Desmond's claimed decision was made on possibly false claims by a BiggerBad GreaterScopeVillain with an agenda]]...
9th Dec '14 12:48:34 AM Chortles
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** Connor really resents Haytham not just for [[spoiler: being the leader of the Templars,]] but from how his father never made much of a presence in his early life. Also, while Haytham [[spoiler: recognizes Connor as an enemy,]] you still see him ''desperately'' trying to create some sort of connection with his son, only for Connor to rebuke his efforts.
*** Even worse when you realize that Connor himself [[spoiler: tried his best to avoid killing Haytham too. Despite being pretty cold to Haytham, he really wanted the idea of Templars joining hands with Assassins to come true.]] If only Haytham could have dropped his jerkass attitude and let [[spoiler:Charles Lee die...]]
*** After Connor finds his father's diary, it's a bitter reality dawning.
---> [[spoiler: '''Connor:''' I never knew him. Not really. I thought I had, but it wasn't until I read his journal that I realized I hadn't really known him at all. And it's too late now. Too late to tell him I misjudged him. Too late to tell him I'm sorry.]]

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** Connor really resents Haytham not just for [[spoiler: being the leader of the Templars,]] Templars]], but from how his father never made much of a presence in his early life. Also, while Haytham [[spoiler: recognizes Connor as an enemy,]] enemy]], you still see him ''desperately'' trying to create some sort of connection with his son, only for Connor to rebuke his efforts.
efforts -- and [[spoiler:Haytham's attempt to vilify Washington, although with the truth, backfires when Connor focuses on Haytham's withholding of said truth]].
*** Even worse when you realize that Connor himself [[spoiler: tried his best to avoid killing Haytham too. Despite being pretty cold to Haytham, he really wanted the idea of Templars joining hands with Assassins to come true.]] A cut dialogue during [[spoiler:their final encounter]] even had Connor [[spoiler:first beseeching that Haytham break the cycle of violence with him, then straight up ''begging'' for his father's life]]. If only Haytham could have dropped his jerkass attitude and let [[spoiler:Charles Lee die...]]
*** After Connor finds his father's diary, it's a bitter reality dawning.
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---> [[spoiler: '''Connor:''' I never knew him. Not really. I thought I had, but it wasn't until I read his journal that I realized I hadn't really known him at all. And it's too late now. Too late to tell him I misjudged him. Too late to tell him I'm sorry.]]]][[note]]Notably, he ends up delivering his concluding monologue ''despite'' this.[[/note]]



* Unlike other instalments, a lot of the Templars you have to kill are [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] who genuinely want to save human lives. This makes the action of killing them more emotionally intense.

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* Unlike other instalments, installments, a lot of the Templars you have to kill are [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] who genuinely want to save human lives. This makes the action of killing them more emotionally intense.



* By the end of the game, Connor earns himself some major TheWoobie points. [[spoiler: Connor has literally lost everything and everyone important to him in his entire life fighting the Templars. His mother died when he was young, he's forced to kill his best friend over a misunderstanding, and his village up and leaves during the second epilogue. Achilles, the closest thing he had to a real father figure, dies and leaves him wondering if their war will ever truly end, and what he's going to do with his life if it ever does since he's been fighting for so long he doesn't know anything else. The nation he helped free is still seeped in oppression and nothing really changed in regards to the persecution of his people. To top it all off, he went through all of this simply to gain possession of a trinket that he's instructed to hide for a greater purpose by powers far beyond his imagining or understand, and like Altiar and Ezio before him, he'll probably never understand what the purpose and net result of all his suffering amounted to.]]
** The disbelief in his voice when he discovers the men whose ideals he was fighting for are almost equally as corrupt and selfish as those he opposed seals the deal. Both epilogue sequences, be it [[spoiler:chasing out the British oppressors while oppressing others]] or [[spoiler:seeing his village moved because the congress started to give away the native land to keep its own people quiet and content]]. Kudos to both animators and voice actor, because they both hammer home how much of a downer ending that really is for our hero.

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* By the end of the game, Connor earns himself some major TheWoobie points. [[spoiler: Connor has literally lost everything and everyone important to him in his entire life fighting the Templars. His mother died when he was young, he's forced to kill his best friend over a misunderstanding, and his village up and leaves during the second epilogue. Achilles, the closest thing he had to a real father figure, dies and leaves him wondering if their war will ever truly end, and what he's going to do with his life if it ever does since he's been fighting for so long he doesn't know anything else. The nation he helped free is still seeped steeped in oppression and nothing really changed in regards to the persecution of his people. To top it all off, he went through all of this simply to gain possession of a trinket that he's instructed to hide for a greater purpose by powers far beyond his imagining or understand, and like Altiar Altaïr and Ezio before him, he'll probably never understand what the purpose and net result of all his suffering amounted to.]]
** The disbelief in his voice when he discovers the men whose ideals he was fighting for are almost equally as corrupt and selfish as those he opposed seals the deal. Both epilogue sequences, be it [[spoiler:chasing out the British oppressors while oppressing others]] or [[spoiler:seeing his village moved because the congress Congress started to give away the native land to keep its own people quiet and content]]. Kudos to both animators and voice actor, because they both hammer home how much of a downer ending that really is for our hero.hero.
*** The last kicker has to be his last non-DLC encounter with George Washington, where [[spoiler:Washington declares his intent to return to his plantation home while others "''build this country's foundation''"... a situation historically famous for his seeming emulation of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus Cincinnatus]], but Connor instead interprets it as Washington's ''cowardice'']].



* [[spoiler: It's a HeroicSacrifice, done to save the world, but the death of Desmond still qualifies. Five games we played as Desmond, and now he is gone, and it's quite possible that in saving the world and sacrificing himself, he's unleased something worse than the Templars.]]

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* [[spoiler: It's a HeroicSacrifice, done to save the world, but the death of Desmond still qualifies. Five games we played as Desmond, and now he is gone, and it's quite possible that in saving the world and sacrificing himself, he's unleased unleashed something worse than the Templars.]]



** [[spoiler: The saddest thing for Desmond's ending? His fate could have been prevented. But when you realize Juno expertly manipulated several generations of your heroes to steer fate and history right up to a single point in time, where it would be the final choice "death of hundreds of millions" or "let me go free", giving herself a gun to hold against Desmond's (and whole world's) head, that is the real kicker of the bittersweet ending. Had Ziio not listened to her (who as the spirit guide of her tribe told her about Haytham's "lie") or had she failed to manipulate Connor to eradicate the Templars (both outcomes likely leading to the Vault being opened way before), or had the current day Assassins and Templars found their own solution instead of listening to hers and chasing their own tail, the ending might've been way happier indeed. Juno's final lie about the end being instant and painless is only a bitter cherry on the already poisoned cake.]]
* The game hints several times that [[spoiler:Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "''hard''" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy's role in the prior games was? All in the form of a vision ''from Juno'' for Clay to see[[/note]] were little more than Juno's deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times, not least since [[spoiler:he eventually denies William's attempt to tell him that his stabbing of Lucy was 'just' Juno's mind control, but when Desmond's claimed decision was made on possibly false claims by a BiggerBad with an agenda]]...

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** [[spoiler: The saddest thing for Desmond's ending? His fate could have been prevented. But when you realize Juno expertly manipulated several generations of your heroes to steer fate and history right up to a single point in time, where it would be the final choice "death of hundreds of millions" or "let me go free", giving herself a gun to hold against Desmond's (and whole world's) head, that is the real kicker of the bittersweet ending. Had Ziio not listened to her (who as the spirit guide of her tribe told her about Haytham's "lie") "''lie''") or had she failed to manipulate Connor to eradicate the Templars (both outcomes likely leading to the Vault being opened way before), or had the current day Assassins and Templars found their own solution instead of listening to hers and chasing their own tail, the ending might've been way happier indeed. Juno's final lie about the end being instant and painless is only a bitter cherry on the already poisoned cake.]]
* The game hints several times that [[spoiler:Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "''hard''" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" "''reveal''" of what Lucy's role in the prior games was? All was in the form of a vision ''from Juno'' for Clay to see[[/note]] were little more than Juno's deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. ]] Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times, not least since [[spoiler:he eventually denies William's attempt to tell him that his stabbing of Lucy was 'just' Juno's mind control, control[[note]]William essentially declaring Desmond innocent[[/note]] and declares that it was his decision, but when Desmond's claimed decision was made on possibly false claims by a BiggerBad with an agenda]]...



* "Tyranny of King Washington" [[spoiler: kills off Connor's mom quite early when Washington takes her out with the Apple of Eden. After seeing how unreservedly ''happy'' Connor was to see his mother again, and not to mention desperately trying to get answers out of her about why his world has changed, to see him screaming "MOTHER!" and sprinting towards her dead body just makes the scene so much worse. At least as bad as watching her original death scene. [[KickTheDog Even in an alternate universe he can't hold on to her.]]]]

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** It gets worse in retrospect after seeing him in ''Rogue'': [[spoiler:he may have seen a Connor who was all too much like Achilles' younger self]].
* "Tyranny of King Washington" [[spoiler: kills off Connor's mom quite early when Washington takes her out with the Apple of Eden. After seeing how unreservedly ''happy'' Connor was to see his mother again, and not to mention desperately trying to get answers out of her about why his world has changed, to see him screaming "MOTHER!" "''MOTHER''!" and sprinting towards her dead body just makes the scene so much worse. At least as bad as watching her original death scene. [[KickTheDog Even in an alternate universe he can't hold on to her.]]]]
27th Dec '13 1:44:24 PM Chortles
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.[[/note]] was little more than Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.
** And Desmond struggling with the messages from Juno and the First Civilisation.

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's [[spoiler:Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" "''hard''" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? Lucy's role in the prior games was? All in the form of a vision ''by ''from Juno'' for Clay to see.[[/note]] was see[[/note]] were little more than Juno's]] Juno's deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.
times, not least since [[spoiler:he eventually denies William's attempt to tell him that his stabbing of Lucy was 'just' Juno's mind control, but when Desmond's claimed decision was made on possibly false claims by a BiggerBad with an agenda]]...
** And Desmond struggling with the messages from Juno and the First Civilisation.Civilization:
24th Nov '13 11:57:36 PM ezio2814
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.[[/note]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.[[/note]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.



* Sam Adam's [[spoiler: brutal death at the hands of Putnam in ''The Betrayal.'' And for a while it looks like Kanen'to:kon has died right along with him. Luckily, he survives.]]

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* Sam Adam's Adams [[spoiler: brutal death at the hands of Putnam in ''The Betrayal.'' And for a while it looks like Kanen'to:kon has died right along with him. Luckily, he survives.]]
28th Oct '13 8:11:19 PM prio
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* [[spoiler: Rebecca's final e-mail.]]
---> [[spoiler: "I don't want to die."]]
20th Oct '13 5:23:37 AM Ecthel
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[hottip:note:although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.]]]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the details of her alignment[[hottip:note:although alignment[[note]]although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.]]]] [[/note]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.
19th Oct '13 11:47:36 PM Chortles
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the circumstances of Lucy's betrayal]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood, possibly even the circumstances details of her alignment[[hottip:note:although Vidic and Cross at least considered her loyal to ''them'', the closest to "hard" evidence is Lucy's betrayal]] letter to Clay... after all, the "reveal" of what Lucy was supposed to do? All in the form of a vision ''by Juno'' for Clay to see.]]]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.
19th Oct '13 11:44:37 PM Chortles
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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.

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* The game hints several times that [[spoiler: Lucy's death at the end of Brotherhood]] Brotherhood, possibly even the circumstances of Lucy's betrayal]] was little more than [[spoiler: Juno's]] deception. Juno herself had admitted before that future is never given and there is more than enough space for debating whether the outcome she forced on Desmond to believe in was really all that likely to happen. Desmond's doubt on the issue is also pretty difficult to watch at times.
24th Aug '13 4:47:25 AM EricW
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** And, at the end of it all, [[spoiler: Charles Lee, who helped burn down your village and promise to take from you everything you held dear, has a bit of a poignant send off. First, there's the whole CorruptTheCutie angle, when you remember the earnest young man who aided Haytham before he began being corrupted. Then there's his death. Wounded by a gun shot from Connor, he goes to a tavern, and instead of an epic battle, calmly waits for his death, even offering Connor a drink before he kills him. The final death of the 6 templars carries very little satisfaction overall, because it is little more than final unfinished business rather than the completion of revenge. And for him to FaceDeathWithDignity like that was quite unexpected.]]
26th Jun '13 11:26:19 AM EvilPanda
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*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlau_HEnaYA Haytham's final journal entry]], as read aloud by his voice actor.

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*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlau_HEnaYA Haytham's final journal entry]], as read aloud by his voice actor.Adrian Hough himself.
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