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25th Mar '17 1:29:43 PM ikoke
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* Amidst all the tragedy & heartbreak of a world gone mad, in a quietly sad moment Jon has a vision of Catelyn,
-->"She was looking at him the way she used to look at him at Winterfell, whenever he had bested Robb at swords or sums or most anything. Who are you? that look had always seemed to say. This is not your place. Why are you here?"
20th Mar '17 11:14:51 AM leelea
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** And Jon asks for word about his father and sisters every chance he gets, only to be [[spoiler:devastated by news later in the book that his father has been executed]]. Like Maester Aemon, Mormont parallels his situation with Jon’s, understanding Jon loves his [[spoiler:father but nothing he can do now will ever bring him back]] and he loves his own sister (who is currently fighting in Robb's army) as Jon loves his two sisters but they must withstand their own personal suffering to fight the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war coming for them from beyond the Wall]]. [[spoiler: Things don’t get better for Jon in this area. He is continually battered by news of his family’s deaths and suffers from ConflictedLoyalty between the family he loves and the order he is sworn to.]]

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** And Jon asks for word about his father and sisters every chance he gets, only to be [[spoiler:devastated by news later in the book that his father has been executed]]. Like Maester Aemon, Mormont parallels his situation with Jon’s, understanding Jon loves his [[spoiler:father but nothing he can do now will ever bring him back]] and he loves his own sister (who is currently fighting in Robb's army) as Jon loves his two sisters but they must withstand their own personal suffering to fight the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war coming for them from beyond the Wall]]. [[spoiler: Things don’t get better for Jon in this area. He is continually battered by news of his family’s deaths and suffers from ConflictedLoyalty ConflictingLoyalty between the family he loves and the order he is sworn to.]]
20th Mar '17 11:13:05 AM leelea
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* Ned's thoughts near his end, especially when he yearns to see his illegitimate son Jon Snow and to talk with him: "''The thought of Jon filled Ned with a sense of shame, and a sorrow too deep for words. If only he could see the boy again, sit and talk with him''". No doubt he was thinking about how he couldn't tell Jon about his mother, and it's safe to say that [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold there was a lot to be said]].

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* Jon’s devastation when Lord Commander Mormont relays news of his father’s arrest. Jon wants to help his father, pleads for news about his sisters Sansa and Arya, who were with their father, and is sick with worry over his father and sisters. However, a sympathetic Mormont can only offer him empty comfort as he does not know more about the situation and when he picks up on Jon’s urge to help his family, he must remind Jon that there's nothing he can do as he has sworn to the Watch now. Jon is distraught and even the guards notice Jon’s devastation and try to comfort him.
-->"Jon did not remember standing or leaving the solar. The next he knew, he was descending the tower steps, thinking, ''This is my father, my sisters, how can it be none of my concern.''"
** And Jon asks for word about his father and sisters every chance he gets, only to be [[spoiler:devastated by news later in the book that his father has been executed]]. Like Maester Aemon, Mormont parallels his situation with Jon’s, understanding Jon loves his [[spoiler:father but nothing he can do now will ever bring him back]] and he loves his own sister (who is currently fighting in Robb's army) as Jon loves his two sisters but they must withstand their own personal suffering to fight the [[GreaterScopeVillain true war coming for them from beyond the Wall]]. [[spoiler: Things don’t get better for Jon in this area. He is continually battered by news of his family’s deaths and suffers from ConflictedLoyalty between the family he loves and the order he is sworn to.]]
* Ned's thoughts near his end, especially when he yearns to see his illegitimate son Jon Snow and to talk with him: "''The thought of Jon filled Ned with a sense of shame, and a sorrow too deep for words. If only he could see the boy again, sit and talk with him''". No doubt he was thinking about how he couldn't tell Jon about his mother, mother and it's safe to say that [[TheGreatestStoryNeverTold there was a lot to be said]].



* Sansa's reaction to [[spoiler:seeing her father being beheaded]]

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* Sansa's reaction to [[spoiler:seeing her father being beheaded]]beheaded right before her]].



* Jon's desperate, half mad attempt to get to the battlefield where he [[spoiler: can do something, anything, to avenge his father]]. He knows it's madness, knows that desertion from the Watch means death, is not even sure whether Robb would accept him. But...
-->[[spoiler:"They murdered my father. It's war, my brother Robb is fighting in the riverlands—"]]

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* Jon's desperate, half mad attempt reaction to learning about his [[spoiler:father's execution]]. Distraught over [[spoiler:his father's death,]] Jon desperately attempts to get to the battlefield where he [[spoiler: can do something, anything, to avenge his father]]. He knows it's madness, dangerous, knows that desertion from the Watch means death, is not even sure whether that his brother Robb would accept him. But...
-->[[spoiler:"They
-- though they are deeply close as brothers -- will be able to let him join the war since Jon, having joined the Watch, is bound to its laws, but...
-->[[spoiler:'''Jon''': They
murdered my father. It's war, my brother Robb is fighting in the riverlands—"]]riverlands—]]
20th Mar '17 10:14:42 AM ikoke
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* Sansa's reaction to [[spoiler:seeing her father being beheaded]]
-->"In the tower room at the heart of Maegor's Holdfast, Sansa gave herself to the darkness."
* Jon's desperate, half mad attempt to get to the battlefield where he [[spoiler: can do something, anything, to avenge his father]]. He knows it's madness, knows that desertion from the Watch means death, is not even sure whether Robb would accept him. But...
-->[[spoiler:"They murdered my father. It's war, my brother Robb is fighting in the riverlands—"]]
2nd Mar '17 9:13:52 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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** Robert might have been a drunkard, a lech, and a glutton, but he was all those things that Joffrey never was: generous (a bit too much probably), merciful, brave, always ready to laugh and make friends. So it's understandable how uncomfortable a cat disemboweling a little psychopath like Joffrey would make him feel.

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** Robert might have been a drunkard, a lech, and a glutton, but he was all those things that Joffrey never was: generous (a bit too much probably), merciful, brave, always ready to laugh and make friends. So it's understandable how uncomfortable a cat disemboweling a cat-disemboweling little psychopath like Joffrey would make him feel.
22nd Feb '17 3:20:07 PM ArgonianLorekeeper
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** [[spoiler:Catelyn's]] final thoughts and watching [[spoiler:Robb]] die through her eyes had this troper sobbing with a hand clapped over her mouth.

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** [[spoiler:Catelyn's]] final thoughts and watching [[spoiler:Robb]] die through her eyes had this troper sobbing with a hand clapped over her mouth.eyes.
21st Feb '17 8:28:17 AM qazwsx
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17th Feb '17 10:12:02 AM GothicProphet
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17th Feb '17 10:11:47 AM GothicProphet
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!!''Literature/AGameOfThrones''

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!!''Literature/AClashOfKings''

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--> “This is craven," [[spoiler: Ser Rodrick said.]] "To use a child so… this is despicable."
--> “Oh, I know,” said Theon. “It’s a dish I tasted myself, or have you forgotten? I was ten when I was taken from my father’s house, to make certain he would raise no more rebellions.”
--> “It is not the same!”
--> Theon’s face was impassive. “The noose I wore was not made of hempen rope, that’s true enough, but I felt it all the same. And it chafed, [[spoiler: Ser Rodrick.]] It chafed me raw.” He had never quite realized that until now, but as the words came spilling out he saw the truth of them.

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--> “This "This is craven," [[spoiler: Ser Rodrick said.]] "To use a child so… so... this is despicable."
--> “Oh, "Oh, I know,” know," said Theon. “It’s "It's a dish I tasted myself, or have you forgotten? I was ten when I was taken from my father’s father's house, to make certain he would raise no more rebellions.
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--> “It "It is not the same!”
same!"
--> Theon’s face was impassive. “The "The noose I wore was not made of hempen rope, that’s that's true enough, but I felt it all the same. And it chafed, [[spoiler: Ser Rodrick.]] It chafed me raw." He had never quite realized that until now, but as the words came spilling out he saw the truth of them.




!!''Literature/AStormOfSwords''

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!!''Literature/AFeastForCrows''

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* Jaime's (implied true) dream of his [[spoiler: mother]], where she asks him if he will forget his father like he has forgotten her. Then she tells him that Tywin [[FreudianExcuse ''hated'' to be laughed at]], wished for his son to be "a great knight", his daughter to be a queen, and for them to be "so strong and brave and beautiful that no one would ever laugh at them." Jaime responds:

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* Jaime's (implied true) dream of his [[spoiler: mother]], where she asks him if he will forget his father like he has forgotten her. Then she tells him that Tywin ''[[FreudianExcuse hated]]'' [[FreudianExcuse ''hated'' to be laughed at]], wished for his son to be "a great knight", his daughter to be a queen, and for them to be "so strong and brave and beautiful that no one would ever laugh at them." Jaime responds:




!!''Literature/ADanceWithDragons''

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!!''The Winds of Winter'' (at time of writing, preview chapters)

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!!Through the series

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----> Mercy, I’m Mercy, and tonight I’ll be raped and murdered.

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!!Historical

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!!Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire

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22nd Dec '16 12:57:40 PM leelea
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* [[spoiler: Theon escaping from Ramsay and finding his sister Asha. GRRM actually reunites siblings for once. And Asha initially fails to recognize Theon, due to all the torture Theon has endured at Ramsay's hand -- a flip from their interaction in A Clash of Kings.]]

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* [[spoiler: Theon escaping from Ramsay and finding his sister Asha. GRRM actually reunites siblings for once. And Asha initially fails to recognize Theon, due to all the Theon's drastically changed appearance after suffering so much torture Theon has endured at Ramsay's hand -- a flip from their interaction in A ''A Clash of Kings.Kings''.]]



** [[spoiler: Even worse, she lures Raff back to her room with the promise of sex. She is eleven or twelve, and already resorting to this, lying to him that she's gotten her period. Even worse? He agrees, and is excited by the prospect. He's a pedophile.]]

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** [[spoiler: Even worse, she Arya lures Raff back to her room with the promise of sex. She is eleven or twelve, twelve years old at and is already resorting to this, this measure, lying to him that she's gotten her period. Even worse? He agrees, and is excited by the prospect. He's a pedophile.]]



** In a Storm of Swords, [[spoiler: Loras joins the Kingsguard because he doesn't see the point in falling in love again if he's already lost his soulmate.]]

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** In a Storm of Swords, [[spoiler: Loras joins the Kingsguard because he doesn't see the point in falling in love again if since he's already lost his soulmate.]]



* Though Sansa didn't have a particularly close relationship with her half-brother, Jon Snow, she thinks of Jon fondly throughout the series (such as in ''A Game Of Thrones'' and ''A Clash of Kings''). When she is a glorified hostage of the Lannisters, Sansa realizes how Jon is all the family she has left in the world and how much she misses him (''A Feast for Crows''), thinking how "so sweet" it would be to see Jon again.

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* Though Sansa didn't have a particularly close relationship with her half-brother, Jon Snow, she thinks of Jon fondly throughout the series after their family is separated (such as in ''A Game Of Thrones'' and ''A Clash of Kings''). When she is a glorified hostage of the Lannisters, Sansa realizes how Jon is all the family she has left in the world and how much she misses him (''A Feast for Crows''), thinking how "so sweet" it would be to see Jon again.



* When Hoster Tully is dying he feverishly begs to see his youngest daughter Lysa, clearly wanting her forgiveness for something. Letters are repeatedly sent to the Eyrie, but Lysa never shows up - understandable, considering there's a civil war on, but worse than that, she never even ''replies.''

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* When Hoster Tully is dying dying, he feverishly begs to see his youngest daughter Lysa, clearly wanting her forgiveness for something. Letters are repeatedly sent to the Eyrie, but Lysa never shows up - understandable, considering there's a civil war currently going on, but worse than that, she never even ''replies.''
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