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-->"And now Scrooge looked on more attentively than ever, when the master of the house, having his daughter leaning fondly on him, sat down with her and her mother at his own fireside; and when he thought that such another creature, quite as graceful and as full of promise, might have called him father, and been a spring-time in the haggard winter of his life, his sight grew very dim indeed."
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-->"And now Scrooge looked on more attentively than ever, when the master of the house, having his daughter leaning fondly on him, sat down with her and her mother at his own fireside; and when he thought that such another creature, quite as graceful and as full of promise, might have called him father, and been a spring-time in the haggard winter of his life, his sight grew very dim indeed.""
* While it's also [[NightmareFuel horrifying]], the 2009 version's portrayal of [[HumanoidAbomination Ignorance and Want]] shows that despite their monstrous appearance, they too are tragic figures, being born of mankind's worst qualities (unwillingness to learn and selfish desire) and shows that if people like Scrooge don't change their ways, children like Ignorance and Want will be driven to lives of crime and madness in their adulthoods.
* While it's also [[NightmareFuel horrifying]], the 2009 version's portrayal of [[HumanoidAbomination Ignorance and Want]] shows that despite their monstrous appearance, they too are tragic figures, being born of mankind's worst qualities (unwillingness to learn and selfish desire) and shows that if people like Scrooge don't change their ways, children like Ignorance and Want will be driven to lives of crime and madness in their adulthoods.
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* In any version, when Scrooge's fiancee leaves him after seeing values money more than he values her. Especially when old Scrooge is shouting at his younger self to go after her.
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* In any version, when Scrooge's fiancee leaves him after seeing values money more than he values her. Especially in the 1999 Patrick Stewart version and 2004 musical, when old Scrooge is shouting at his younger self to go after her.
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** The saddest thing about Jacob Marley is that he, unlike Scrooge, can't get a second chance to change. He's already dead at the start of the story, and is doomed to an eternity of regret.
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** one year for a Christmas Concert, My orchestra played "Asis' Death" from EdvardGrieg's ''Peer Gynt'' quite for that scene.
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* The final vision of the past that the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge is the night Jacob Marley died, and he learns the fate of Belle, his former fiance. She is happily married to a good man and surrounded by loving children, including a beautiful teenage daughter that is the spitting image of her mother. What Scrooge feels upon seeing a life that could have been his...well, Dickens himself puts it best:
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* The final vision of the past that the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge - the thing that finally breaks him, in fact - is the night Jacob Marley died, and died. Rather than see himself, or Marley, he learns the fate of Belle, his former fiance. She is happily married to a good man and surrounded by loving children, including a beautiful teenage daughter that is the spitting image of her mother. What Scrooge feels upon seeing a life that could have been his...well, Dickens himself puts it best:
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* There's an animated animal version of this story where the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come doesn't take Scrooge to a future where Tiny Tim died from his illness; rather he takes him to a future where Tim ''turned into Scrooge''. Scrooge is utterly horrified.
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* There's an animated animal version of this story where the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come doesn't take Scrooge to a future where Tiny Tim died from his illness; rather he takes him to a future where Tim ''turned into Scrooge''. Scrooge is utterly horrified.horrified.
* The final vision of the past that the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge is the night Jacob Marley died, and he learns the fate of Belle, his former fiance. She is happily married to a good man and surrounded by loving children, including a beautiful teenage daughter that is the spitting image of her mother. What Scrooge feels upon seeing a life that could have been his...well, Dickens himself puts it best:
-->"And now Scrooge looked on more attentively than ever, when the master of the house, having his daughter leaning fondly on him, sat down with her and her mother at his own fireside; and when he thought that such another creature, quite as graceful and as full of promise, might have called him father, and been a spring-time in the haggard winter of his life, his sight grew very dim indeed."
* The final vision of the past that the Ghost of Christmas Past shows Scrooge is the night Jacob Marley died, and he learns the fate of Belle, his former fiance. She is happily married to a good man and surrounded by loving children, including a beautiful teenage daughter that is the spitting image of her mother. What Scrooge feels upon seeing a life that could have been his...well, Dickens himself puts it best:
-->"And now Scrooge looked on more attentively than ever, when the master of the house, having his daughter leaning fondly on him, sat down with her and her mother at his own fireside; and when he thought that such another creature, quite as graceful and as full of promise, might have called him father, and been a spring-time in the haggard winter of his life, his sight grew very dim indeed."
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* There's an animated animal version of this story where the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come doesn't take Scrooge to a future where Tiny Tim died from his illness; rather he takes him to a future where Tim ''turned into Scrooge''. Scrooge is utterly horrified.
* There's an animated animal version of this story where the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come doesn't take Scrooge to a future where Tiny Tim died from his illness; rather he takes him to a future where Tim ''turned into Scrooge''. Scrooge is utterly horrified.
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* In one musical theater adaptation of ''A Christmas Carol'', the story is narrated by a young gentleman who walks with a limp, who retells the story that Scrooge himself told him years ago. During the scene with Christmas Yet To Come, there's the expected tear jerker scene with the Crachit family mourning Tiny Tim's death. They sing the appropriately-tear jerking "The Little Child" until they are too choked up to continue, at which point the song is finished by a verse sung by the narrator, which is the only time the narrator sings outside the opening and closing musical numbers. This verse becomes extra chilling in hindsight when, at the end of the story, it is revealed that the narrator is [[spoiler:Tiny Tim, all grown up and healthy thanks to Scrooge]]. Not only is Scrooge in-story witnessing the possible future of the death of a poor child, but also out-of-story the narrator is watching [[spoiler:his own family's reaction to his death in an alternate timeline]] and, much like Scrooge, he cannot comfort them. ''Chilling''.
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* In one musical theater adaptation of ''A Christmas Carol'', the story is narrated by a young gentleman who walks with a limp, who retells the story that Scrooge himself told him years ago. During the scene with Christmas Yet To Come, there's the expected tear jerker scene with the Crachit family mourning Tiny Tim's death. They sing the appropriately-tear jerking "The Little Child" until they are too choked up to continue, at which point the song is finished by a verse sung by the narrator, which is the only time the narrator sings outside the opening and closing musical numbers. This verse becomes extra chilling in hindsight when, at the end of the story, it is revealed that the narrator is [[spoiler:Tiny Tim, all grown up and healthy thanks to Scrooge]]. Not only is Scrooge in-story witnessing the possible future of the death of a poor child, but also out-of-story the narrator is watching [[spoiler:his own family's reaction to his death in an alternate timeline]] and, much like Scrooge, he cannot comfort them. ''Chilling''.''Chilling''.
* In any version, when Scrooge's fiancee leaves him after seeing values money more than he values her. Especially when old Scrooge is shouting at his younger self to go after her.
* In any version, when Scrooge's fiancee leaves him after seeing values money more than he values her. Especially when old Scrooge is shouting at his younger self to go after her.
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** There's a scene in the book where Bob Cratchit goes up to Tim's bed, and his body is still there, and he kisses his face. Some film adaptations also show Tim's body.
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** When [[MuppetsChristmasCarol [[Film/TheMuppetsChristmasCarol Kermit and Ms. Piggy]] are playing Bob Crachit and Emily Crachit respectively and the film's already refused to pull its punches, you know there's going to be ManlyTears. Knowing what's coming doesn't help with the Crachits during Christmas Present sequence either.
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* I see Tiny Tim and raise you Jacob Marley. Especially in the 1984 film adaptation. He sincerely regrets never being as charitable as he ought to have been in life, and honestly wants nothing more than for his old friend to avoid making the same mistake, so it can be difficult to keep a straight face while watching that scene.
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** In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.
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* In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.
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* In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.eye.
* In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.
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* In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.
* In the 2009 animated adaptation, Scrooge seeing Bob mourning Tiny Tim's death in the future is even worse than usual, because while going up the stairs to sob alone, Bob pauses for a long moment right in front of the invisible Scrooge, giving both him and the audience a long look at his utterly heartbroken face. Scrooge whimpering "Bob..." as he sees how hurt he is makes an already brutal scene even harder to watch.
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* More from the Muppets, go ahead. Google "When Love is Gone." Try to keep a dry eye.
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** The Alastair Sim version has an excellent scene where they show Scrooge selling out Fezziwig's business to a competitor. It's brutal and underhanded. ''Ouch''
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** When Scrooge sees ''his'' name on the gravestone and finds out it was ''his'' death they were celebrating. Both Alastair Sim and George C Scott are excellent in this scene, but George C Scott really brought it, especially when he fell at the the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come's feet sobbing and pleading "Spare me!", then appears back on the bed.
** The Alastair Sim version has an excellent scene where they show Scrooge selling out Fezziwig's business to a competitor. It's brutal and underhanded. ''Ouch''
** The Alastair Sim version has an excellent scene where they show Scrooge selling out Fezziwig's business to a competitor. It's brutal and underhanded. ''Ouch''
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** And there's a brief but effective scene as Fezziwig, driven out of business, watches as his sign is taken down from the warehouse. It gets worse when Scrooge, while sympathetic, just can't bring himself to go talk to the man he helped to bring down.
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** Also, there's the alternate future where Tim dies. A weary Bob Crachit tries to put on a brave face for his family, talking about how Tim is at peace now. Finally, though, he just breaks down in tears for his dead son.
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** And then there's her death, which is shown in this movie unlike pretty much any other adapatation [[AdaptationExpansion and the book]]. As she's dying, younger Scrooge is overcome with grief and leaves the room. Immediately after, Fran says her final words, [[spoiler: asking Scrooge to ''take care of her son'']], and dies. Older Scrooge's reaction makes it even worse.
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