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** Dr. Adrian complains that "only rich people" are being let onto the Arks, to which Anheuser responds that the money they spent buying tickets is what funded the Arks in the first place. That and [[DeadpanSnarker snarking]] "Oh, you mean life ''isn't fair?!''" No one seems to point out that those "rich people" won't be rich after the catastrophe. Even if they could take all their money with them, [[MoneyForNothing it'll be worthless in a world without an economy to back it up]]. They'll have to work just like everyone else, and will find it significantly harder than those who have developed skills that might actually apply in rebuilding society, such as construction, science, logistics, or agriculture.

* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'': Miss Gulch is understandably annoyed that Dorothy continually walks home past her house, with Toto "one or twice a week" running into her yard and chasing her beloved pet cat. Miss Gulch is also right to be angry about Toto biting her on the leg. Sure, Miss Gulch ''does'' go wrong in demanding that Toto be destroyed, in one of the most famous cases of DisproportionateRetribution in film which has forever earned the enmity of generations of children. But the movie tries to treat her complaints as entirely unjustified, when the fact of the matter is, after all, Dorothy ''really'' should have put her dog on a leash, or just carried Toto past Miss Gulch's home, after the first or second time. Not helping is Dorothy's refusal to even ''try'' and reason with her, instead threatening to bite her too. Hunk, one of the farmhands, even points out to Dorothy that she could have taken a different route to get home so that she wouldn't ''have'' to go by Miss Gulch's house, Toto wouldn't get into her garden and they both could have stayed out of trouble, to which Dorothy weakly retorts that "You just won't listen!"

* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'': Miss Gulch is understandably annoyed that Dorothy continually walks home past her house, with Toto "one or twice a week" running into her yard and chasing her beloved pet cat. Miss Gulch is also right to be angry about Toto biting her on the leg. Sure, Miss Gulch ''does'' go wrong in demanding that Toto be destroyed, in one of the most famous cases of DisproportionateRetribution in film which has forever earned the enmity of generations of children. But the movie tries to treat her complaints as entirely unjustified, when the fact of the matter is, after all, Dorothy ''really'' should have put her dog on a leash, or just carried Toto past Miss Gulch's home, after the first or second time. Not helping is Dorothy's refusal to even ''try'' and reason with her, instead threatening to bite her too; Hunk, one of the farmhands, even points out to Dorothy that she could have taken a different route to get home so that she wouldn't ''have'' to go by Miss Gulch's house, Toto wouldn't get into her garden and they both could have stayed out of trouble, to which Dorothy weakly retorts that "You just won't listen!"

* ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'': Miss Gulch is understandably annoyed that Dorothy continually walks home past her house, with Toto "one or twice a week" running into her yard and chasing her beloved pet cat. Miss Gulch is also right to be angry about Toto biting her. Sure, Miss Gulch ''does'' go wrong in demanding that Toto be destroyed, in one of the most famous cases of DisproportionateRetribution in film which has forever earned the enmity of generations of children. But the movie tries to treat her complaints as entirely unjustified, when the fact of the matter is, after all, Dorothy ''really'' should have put her dog on a leash, or walked elsewhere, or just carried Toto past Miss Gulch's home, after the first or second time. Not helping is Dorothy's refusal to even ''try'' and reason with her, instead threatening to bite her too.

* In ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'' the villains, [=InGen=] corporation, are portrayed as evil because they want to recapture the dinosaurs from Isla Sorna to recoup their losses from the first film. While they were pretty ruthless, [[VillainyFreeVillain as well massive jerkasses]] (hunter Roland Tembo and his buddy Ajay excepted), their argument that the dinosaurs are their rightful property does have merit. When the heroes call them out on destroying the island's "natural" environment, the CorruptCorporateExecutive points out that they created the dinosaurs and introduced them to the island in the first place, millions of years and thousands of miles from their actual long-gone natural habitat. The heroes have no counterargument to this other than Nick trying to start a fight. This is one of those cases where what's right legally may or may not be what's right morally, but it's certainly not as cut-and-dried as the film would like to present it.

** In ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'', Bond is cleared by M to go back on active duty, despite having failed his physical re-evaluation (and her hiding the fact from him). When he's informed that he's been approved, Gareth Mallory points out that "it's a young man's game" and that there's no shame in admitting that he's too old for the job. It seems as though the audience is supposed to take the side of Bond (who is the main character), but Mallory isn't exactly far off the mark. An agent with a previous injury (that, by his own words, nearly killed him) and borderline-inadequate physical health shouldn't be the sole resource for a mission, even when Bond's machinations play into Raoul Silva's plan to attempt an assassination on M. By the end of the film, however, it is reaffirmed that sometimes, old dogs have to learn new tricks to stay relevant in the modern age.

* In ''Film/{{Jaws}}'', Mayor Vaughn dismisses the concern of the protagonists and refuses to close the beaches when terrorized by the shark. However, Amity is a beach town dependent on seasonal beachgoers for its economy. Then again, a mix of AdaptationalHeroism and ScienceMarchesOn lead some fans to side with the mayor since he lacks the corruption of his novel counterpart, and modern science has shown that shark attack fatalities are greatly exaggerated.

* In ''Film/GrossAnatomy'', the protagonist, Joe Slovak, lambastes the administration of the medical school where he is a student after his roommate and best friend is "invited to leave"; that is, informally expelled. The problem is that said roommate was caught using amphetamines. The protagonist objects that medical students are only human, not superhuman, and that the school's expectations of them are too high, and that the school should be more understanding and compassionate toward a student who needed speed to get through his classes. We're clearly meant to side with Slovak and his roommate -- but here's the thing: no one would want to be the patient of a doctor who needs amphetamines just to pass his ''first'' year of medical school. Moreover, most doctors passed their first years without speed, and if the school did decide to allow him to stay, there's no indication that Slovak's roommate will be able to manage his second year either, and they'll just be repeating all this a few months down the line. Finally, the school is being compassionate by washing out a student who can't hack it as a first-year, rather than waiting for him to accrue tens of thousands of dollars more in student-loan debt when they have to expel him later. A doctor who washes out as an intern after graduating from medical school doesn't get all his student loans magically forgiven. He still has to pay them back, but without the income of a full-fledged licensed physician.

* In ''Film/KnivesOut'' Harlan's personal nurse Marta inherits his entire fortune while his family are left completely out of the will. Harlan's daughter is meant to seem especially unhinged when she accuses Marta of sleeping with Harlan. But from the family's perspective, this would seem like a reasonable interpretation of a shocking revelation. The people most deserving of punishment weren't even his children, but his cheating son-in-law and thieving daughter-in-law, whose transgressions were unknown to the rest of the family. While Harlan had told his son and adult grandson why they were being cut out, it seems like a fairly severe way to teach them to be more independent and responsible, respectively. Harlan never expressly states why he thinks his daughter, granddaughter, and underage grandson deserve the snub. While Marta is objectively a kinder and more deserving person than any of the family, it would still hurt quite a lot for your own father or grandfather to imply that he thinks you're so awful you don't deserve to have so much as a family photo album.

** Dewey has been bumming at the apartment of Ned and Patty for months if not years, while continually refusing to get a steady job and therefore doing little to contribute to the rent. Ned keeps doing whatever he can to accommodate him because they were in a band years ago, while Patty is just supposed to put up with this. It doesn't change the fact that Patty seems to take joy in Dewey's suffering, but anyone would be frustrated by that point.
** Equally Patty is right to call out Dewey for impersonating Ned. Dewey by pulling that is messing with Dewey's career prospects and likewise as pointed out in the musical adaptation of this, Dewey's behavior could have potentially cost Ned his teaching license and ruined his whole career.

** It doesn't exactly make parents "tightly-wound" for being upset that their kids are learning nothing but rock music, and no academics, for weeks or months on end. Even many rock-loving parents would be bothered by how this would set their kids up for some serious educational problems later in the area (for being behind all the other classes in their grade). They might even sue the school for not checking Dewey's credentials. In their case, it's not as extreme as the others in the movie as they are shown to just want what's best for their kids (as seen by their horrified reaction when Dewey [[ThatCameOutWrong accidentally implies]] he [[MistakenForPedophile molested the students]]). Furthermore the parents are right to be upset that a random stranger was impersonating a teacher not the least being that from their prospective, the stranger could have been a dangerous person.

** The film portrays Don as a DirtyCoward for abandoning his wife Alice when she runs back into a house being overrun by zombies to save a little boy, but it's later established that the boy died anyway (along with everybody else who was hiding in that house at the time, with Alice only surviving because she's immune to the infection). Don was the only other person in the house who survived the outbreak, and it's ''explicitly because'' he ran. To say nothing of the fact that his only real alternative at the time was to engage around fifty infected in what amounts to hand-to-hand combat, and fighting even a single infected in this manner is effectively a death sentence.

** Equally Patty is right to call out Dewey for impersonating Ned. Dewey by pulling that is messing with Dewey's career prospects and likewise as pointed out in the musical adaptation of this, Dewey's behavior could have potentially costed Ned his teaching license and ruined his whole career.

** It doesn't exactly make parents "tightly-wound" for being upset that their kids are learning nothing but rock music, and no academics, for weeks or months on end. Even many rock-loving parents would be bothered by how this would set their kids up for some serious educational problems later in the area (for being behind all the other classes in their grade). They might even sue the school for not checking Dewey's credentials. In their case, it's not as extreme as the others in the movie as they are shown to just want what's best for their kids (as seen by their horrified reaction when Dewey [[ThatCameOutWrong accidentally implies]] he [[MistakenForPedophile molested the students]]).

* In ''Film/KnivesOut'' the audience is meant to sympathize with Harlan's personal nurse Marta, after she inherits his entire fortune while his family are left completely out of the will. Harlan's daughter is meant to seem especially unhinged when she accuses Marta of sleeping with Harlan. But from the family's perspective, this would seem like a reasonable interpretation of a shocking revelation. The people most deserving of punishment weren't even his children, but his cheating son-in-law and thieving daughter-in-law, whose transgressions were unknown to the rest of the family. While Harlan had told his son and adult grandson why they were being cut out, it seems like a fairly severe way to teach them to be more independent and responsible, respectively. Harlan never expressly states why he thinks his daughter, granddaughter, and underage grandson deserve the snub. While Marta is objectively a kinder and more deserving person than any of the family, it would still hurt quite a lot for your own father or grandfather to imply that he thinks you're so awful you don't deserve to have so much as a family photo album.