History StargateSG1 / SToZ

18th Aug '16 5:46:16 PM DarkHunter
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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Averted. Traveling between different stellar systems, even at faster than light speeds, takes months or years (the fastest Goa'uld ship encountered can travel at 32,000 times the speed of light, which would take three years to cross the diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy), which is why the Stargate Network is still vital to the Goa'uld economy and military complex. The concept of conquering a planet requires millions of soldiers and defending a planet, even with technologically-advanced weaponry, requires numerous weapons placed all around the planet, not just at vital areas. Multiple characters point out the flawed thinking of other people when they fall into the traditional pitfalls of discounting the sheer size of the universe.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: Averted.SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale:
** For the most part averted.
Traveling between different stellar systems, even at faster than light speeds, takes months or years (the fastest Goa'uld ship encountered can travel at 32,000 times the speed of light, which would take three years to cross the diameter of the Milky Way Galaxy), which is why the Stargate Network is still vital to the Goa'uld economy and military complex. The concept of conquering a planet requires millions of soldiers and defending a planet, even with technologically-advanced weaponry, requires numerous weapons placed all around the planet, not just at vital areas. Multiple characters point out the flawed thinking of other people when they fall into the traditional pitfalls of discounting the sheer size of the universe.universe.
** The writers still messed up when describing an alien planet as being "several billion miles" away from Earth. The closest star to Earth (other than the Sun, obviously) is Alpha Centauri, which is several dozen ''trillion'' miles away. The planet they're describing is far more likely to be hundreds of trillions or even quadrillions of miles distant.
10th Aug '16 3:13:41 PM StFan
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** The pilot had a (extremely brief) moment of confusion with regards to Carter. When General Hammond mentioned that their foremost expert on the stargate, Sam Carter, would be arriving soon, O'Neill asked where he was transferring from, only for Carter to walk in at that point and say that ''she'' is transferring from the Pentagon.
** Val Mal Doran was introduced in "Prometheus Unbound" in the armor of a Kull Warrior with an artificially-deepened voice. She had already taken the ''Prometheus'' and flirted with Daniel Jackson before the helmet was removed to reveal that she was a woman. Which Daniel found extremely disturbing when he thought she was an actual Kull Warrior.

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** The pilot had has a (extremely brief) moment of confusion with regards to Carter. When General Hammond mentioned mentions that their foremost expert on the stargate, Stargate, Sam Carter, would will be arriving soon, O'Neill asked asks where he was i transferring from, only for Carter to walk in at that point and say that ''she'' is transferring from the Pentagon.
** Val Mal Doran was is introduced in "Prometheus Unbound" in the armor of a Kull Warrior with an artificially-deepened voice. She had has already taken the ''Prometheus'' and flirted with Daniel Jackson before the helmet was is removed to reveal that she was is a woman. Which Daniel found finds it extremely disturbing when as long as he thought thinks she was is an actual Kull Warrior.



** Done most often by O'Neill, to the Asgard, Tollan, and the Tok'ra. The Asgard must have found it funny, and actually listened to him. The Tollan were eventually [[spoiler:wiped out]], after demonstrating the shallowness of their principles.

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** Done most often by O'Neill, to the Asgard, Tollan, and the Tok'ra. The Asgard must have found find it funny, and actually listened listen to him. The Tollan were eventually [[spoiler:wiped out]], after demonstrating the shallowness of their principles.



** Both the 100th and 200th episodes celebrate by spending the episodes poking fun at their own show general Sci-Fi clichés.

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** Both the 100th 100[-[[superscript:th]]-] and 200th 200[-[[superscript:th]]-] episodes celebrate by spending the episodes poking fun at their own show general Sci-Fi clichés.



* ShellShockedVeteran: Vernon in "Sight Unseen". Due to his experiences during the Gulf War, he comes to believe that the creatures being seen in Colorado Springs are due to government experimentation, recognising that the cover story about a toxic spill was ''clearly'' bogus. O'Neill eventually cops to it and admits Vernon was RightForTheWrongReasons.

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* ShellShockedVeteran: Vernon in "Sight Unseen". Due to his experiences during the Gulf War, he comes to believe that the creatures being seen in Colorado Springs are due to government experimentation, recognising recognizing that the cover story about a toxic spill was is ''clearly'' bogus. O'Neill eventually cops to it and admits Vernon was is RightForTheWrongReasons.



* ShowWithinAShow: ''Wormhole X-Treme!'', used twice to great comedic effect, including the celebrated 200th episode. Its original run was cancelled after airing three episodes, but it sold so well on DVD that the studio decided to give it a movie adaptation. The production of the movie was then frought with issues and the studio decided to cancel production, but decided to relaunch the series again and it aired for ten years, with the movie greenlighted (again) after the two-hundredth episode of the series.

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* ShowWithinAShow: ''Wormhole X-Treme!'', used twice to great comedic effect, including the celebrated 200th 200[-[[superscript:th]]-] episode. Its original run was cancelled after airing three episodes, but it sold so well on DVD that the studio decided to give it a movie adaptation. The production of the movie was then frought fraught with issues and the studio decided to cancel production, but decided decides to relaunch the series again and it aired airs for ten years, with the movie greenlighted (again) after the two-hundredth episode of the series.



** Invoked as GallowsHumour, when they though the Gate might have caused Daniel to have developed full-blown schizophrenia:

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** Invoked as GallowsHumour, when they though think the Gate might have caused Daniel to have developed full-blown schizophrenia:



* SingleBiomePlanet: {{Deconstructed}}, as the characters often decree the nature an entire planet based only on a brief exploration of the area surrounding the gate. One member concluded that she was on an "ice planet" when she found herself in Antarctica by mistake, and many characters point out that a day of exploration does not come close to discovering what might be just out of visual range.



* SingleBiomePlanet: {{Deconstructed}}, as the characters often decree the nature an entire planet based only on a brief exploration of the area surrounding the gate. One member concluded that she was on an "ice planet" when she found herself in Antarctica by mistake, and many characters point out that a day of exploration does not come close to discovering what might be just out of visual range.



* TheUnsmile: In the first season, when Teal'c was still getting angry looks for being a Jaffa, Daniel explained that he was a friend and told him to smile. The resulting facial movement was... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9oByzdOQOA off.]]

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* TheUnsmile: In the first season, when Teal'c was is still getting angry looks for being a Jaffa, Daniel explained explains that he was is a friend and told tells him to smile. The resulting facial movement was...is... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9oByzdOQOA off.]]



* VichyEarth: The Aschen supposedly invite the Earth's peoples to join an [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas advanced alien confederation]]. The whole subsequent genocide and sterilization plot was secret from everybody except for the highest Aschen and some collaborating human leaders.

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* VichyEarth: The Aschen supposedly invite the Earth's peoples to join an [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas advanced alien confederation]]. The whole subsequent genocide and sterilization plot was is secret from everybody except for the highest Aschen and some collaborating human leaders.



* WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens: The Stargate itself, which has a center ring that spins when SG-1 is dialing. Interestingly, gates with functional [=DHDs=] don't spin, suggesting the spinning might be some sort of manual control. This was {{Lampshaded}} in the 200th episode during the marionettes parody sequence: as they were preparing to activate the Stargate for the first time, Gen. Hammond demanded that they make it spin, as it would be [[RuleOfCool so much cooler]] that way.

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* WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens: The Stargate itself, which has a center ring that spins when SG-1 is dialing. Interestingly, gates with functional [=DHDs=] don't spin, suggesting the spinning might be some sort of manual control. This was is {{Lampshaded}} in the 200th 200[-[[superscript:th]]-] episode during the marionettes parody sequence: as they were are preparing to activate the Stargate for the first time, Gen. Hammond demanded demands that they make it spin, as it would be is [[RuleOfCool so much cooler]] that way.



* WhereNoParodyHasGoneBefore: In the episode "200", numerous other shows (mainly sci-fi) are spoofed when the SGC hires Martin Lloyd to produce the ShowWithinAShow "Wormhole X-Treme !" to maintain plausible deniability for the Stargate Program. One of the pitches he makes is for a blatant ''Star Trek'' rip-off (featuring the main actors in an ImagineSpot) that his audience complains is mostly TechnoBabble.

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* WhereNoParodyHasGoneBefore: In the episode "200", numerous other shows (mainly sci-fi) are spoofed when the SGC hires Martin Lloyd to produce the ShowWithinAShow "Wormhole X-Treme !" X-Treme!" to maintain plausible deniability for the Stargate Program. One of the pitches he makes is for a blatant ''Star Trek'' rip-off (featuring the main actors in an ImagineSpot) that his audience complains is mostly TechnoBabble.



-->'''O'Neill:''' (''referring to Apophis'') Somebody's gotta teach that guy how to die.

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-->'''O'Neill:''' (''referring ''[referring to Apophis'') Apophis]'' Somebody's gotta teach that guy how to die.



'''Teal'c:''' (''shrugs'')

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'''Teal'c:''' (''shrugs'')''[shrugs]''



* WorldWarIII: The Goa'uld try to start one between the US and Russia in "Full Alert" but cooler heads prevail.

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* WorldWarIII: The Goa'uld try to start one between the US and Russia in "Full Alert" Alert", but cooler heads prevail.



** In "A Hundred Days", Daniel explains that the "fire rain" is called a "falling star" on Earth, and Tealc' then gives the Goa'uld name of the phenomena. After a moment, Daniel translates that to "falling star".

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** In "A Hundred Days", Daniel explains that the "fire rain" is called a "falling star" on Earth, and Tealc' Teal'c then gives the Goa'uld name of the phenomena. After a moment, Daniel translates that to "falling star".



** David Palffy portrayed the Goa'uld Sokar in season three and returned as the robe-shrouded incorporeal form of Anubis from the end of season five up to "Lost City". He continued to voice Anubis through season 8, with the exception of [[spoiler:Anubis' ascended form in the diner between worlds]].

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** David Palffy portrayed the Goa'uld Sokar in season three and returned as the robe-shrouded incorporeal form of Anubis from the end of season five up to "Lost City". He continued to voice Anubis through season 8, with the exception of [[spoiler:Anubis' [[spoiler:Anubis's ascended form in the diner between worlds]].



* YouRemindMeOfX: Teal'c once said that Mitchell reminded him heavily of O'Neill, which Mitchell took as a compliment. [[StealthInsult Teal'c said that that was up to him]].
* [[YoureNotMyFather You're Not My Mother]]: Cassandra says it to her adoptive mother, Dr. Fraiser, in "Rite of Passage". To be fair, the teenager was quite feverish and stressed from the effects of Nirrti's retrovirus at the time.

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* YouRemindMeOfX: Teal'c once said says that Mitchell reminded reminds him heavily of O'Neill, which Mitchell took takes as a compliment. [[StealthInsult Teal'c said says that that was it is up to him]].
* [[YoureNotMyFather You're Not My Mother]]: Cassandra says it to her adoptive mother, Dr. Fraiser, in "Rite of Passage". To be fair, the teenager was is quite feverish and stressed from the effects of Nirrti's retrovirus at the time.



10th Aug '16 10:59:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* TimeTravelEpisode: In the episode "1969", SG-1 ends up in the 1960s when a solar flare intercepts with an active wormhole.
18th Jul '16 9:13:34 AM longWriter
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This progression is grounded in the plot by the Tok'ra. They say that every time the Tau'ri defeat a System Lord, an even worse one inevitably takes advantage of the power vacuum. By killing Ra, and others, SG-1 kept disrupting the Goa'uld balance of power, allowing more aggressive Goa'uld to sweep up now-leaderless forces and rise in threat level. They didn't cause Anubis, but probably sped up his timetable. They did make the Replicators more dangerous, by giving the nanotech precursor of the Replicators to the Asgard, from whom it was then captured. In a self-application of StopHelpingMe, the Ori only found out about the Milky Way galaxy when Daniel Jackson and Vala accidentally warped over to their home galaxy and caused a scene. An unfortunate coincidence, perhaps, but still their doing.

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This progression is grounded in the plot by the Tok'ra. They say that every time the Tau'ri defeat a System Lord, an even worse one inevitably takes advantage of the power vacuum. By killing Ra, and others, SG-1 kept disrupting the Goa'uld balance of power, allowing more aggressive Goa'uld to sweep up now-leaderless forces and rise in threat level. They didn't cause Anubis, but probably sped up his timetable. They did make the Replicators more dangerous, by giving the nanotech precursor of the Replicators to the Asgard, from whom it was then captured. In a self-application of StopHelpingMe, UnwantedAssistance, the Ori only found out about the Milky Way galaxy when Daniel Jackson and Vala accidentally warped over to their home galaxy and caused a scene. An unfortunate coincidence, perhaps, but still their doing.
14th Jul '16 1:56:50 PM StFan
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** That puddle jumper was already found in Milky Way. It was built by Janus after leaving Atlantis.
*** Unless it refers the the puddle jumper taken through the Intergalactic Bridge in ''The Return'' part 1.
14th Jul '16 10:40:44 AM morenohijazo
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* SpecialEffectBranding: The show gives each major player their own radically different ship design and weapon effects, ranging from Egyptian pyramids to Earth naval ships to bioships, though there is an exception: the minor races all use the same (Goa'uld) design of ship, having acquired them second hand. That said, the technology of both humans and aliens in the Pegasus Galaxy of ''Series/StargateAtlantis'' looks quite different. Even the gates are of a different design. And despite their obvious usefulness, the Atlantis team does not appear to have brought any Zat guns or staff weapons with them, nor have they sent any Wraith stunners or (with one temporary exception) puddle jumpers back home.
** That puddle jumper was already found in Milky Way. It was built by Janus after leaving Atlantis.
*** Unless it refers the the puddle jumper taken through the Intergalactic Bridge in ''The Return'' part 1.
5th Jul '16 4:37:02 PM StFan
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* WhereNoParodyHasGoneBefore: In the episode "200", numerous other shows (mainly sci-fi) are spoofed when the SGC hires someone to produce the ShowWithinAShow "Wormhole X-Treme !" to maintain plausible deniability for the Stargate Program. One of the pitches he makes is for a blatant ''Star Trek'' rip-off (featuring the main actors in an ImagineSpot) that his audience complains is mostly TechnoBabble.

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* WhereNoParodyHasGoneBefore: In the episode "200", numerous other shows (mainly sci-fi) are spoofed when the SGC hires someone Martin Lloyd to produce the ShowWithinAShow "Wormhole X-Treme !" to maintain plausible deniability for the Stargate Program. One of the pitches he makes is for a blatant ''Star Trek'' rip-off (featuring the main actors in an ImagineSpot) that his audience complains is mostly TechnoBabble.
5th Jul '16 2:00:30 PM Morgenthaler
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* WhereNoParodyHasGoneBefore: In the episode "200", numerous other shows (mainly sci-fi) are spoofed when the SGC hires someone to produce the ShowWithinAShow "Wormhole X-Treme !" to maintain plausible deniability for the Stargate Program. One of the pitches he makes is for a blatant ''Star Trek'' rip-off (featuring the main actors in an ImagineSpot) that his audience complains is mostly TechnoBabble.
12th May '16 2:16:25 PM StFan
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* SomeKindOfForcefield: Several varieties of forcefields appear in the series, with various visual effects revealing their presence. Most of them are indeed invisible unless touched, but the results of a contact are quite variable.

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* SomeKindOfForcefield: SomeKindOfForceField: Several varieties of forcefields force fields appear in the series, with various visual effects revealing their presence. Most of them are indeed invisible unless touched, but the results of a contact are quite variable.



** In "Deadman Switch", Daniel Jackson walks nose-first into a red-glowing forcefield, put in place by Aris Boch to capture SG-1.
--->'''Daniel:''' [=*klonk*=] OW! Found something...

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** In "Deadman Switch", Daniel Jackson walks nose-first into a red-glowing forcefield, put in place by Aris Boch to capture SG-1.
--->'''Daniel:''' [=*klonk*=] OW! Found something...
SG-1. Later in the episode, Teal'c is encased in a smaller version of the same field used as a detention device, and "knocks" on it to show the audience it's there.
7th May '16 5:44:37 AM Morgenthaler
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** Daniel goes from a charming NiceGuy to a manipulative HandsomeDevil with aggressive urges, after his repeat exposure to a Goa'uld sarcophagus whilst being uninjured, causes him to become addicted to its effects. It lasts only one episode, as he quickly is forced to go cold turkey.

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** Daniel goes from a charming NiceGuy to a manipulative HandsomeDevil handsome devil with aggressive urges, after his repeat exposure to a Goa'uld sarcophagus whilst being uninjured, causes him to become addicted to its effects. It lasts only one episode, as he quickly is forced to go cold turkey.
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