History StargateSG1 / MToR

13th Apr '18 1:14:08 PM calculator
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** On multiple occasions Daniel has to bluff an enemy into believing he is some kind of unsavory character, and proves to be [[MostDefinitelyNotaVillain quite bad at it]]. At various times he's been forced to pretend to be a Goa'uld, a bounty hunter, and a political terrorist.
27th Mar '18 3:26:36 PM StFan
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* OutsideContextProblem: Initially, the Goa'uld themselves. The Earthers thought the one they'd killed in the movie was the Last of His Kind and that they'd eliminated any threat to Earth when they took it out. Not so much...
** The Replicators, an extragalactic, mechanical Horde of Alien Locusts who make all kinds of trouble for SG-1 and its allies and eventually invade the Milky Way. By then SG-1 had some experience with them, but the Goa'uld still saw them as this trope.

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Initially, the Goa'uld themselves. The Earthers thought the one they'd killed in the movie was the Last of His Kind and that they'd eliminated any threat to Earth when they took it out. Not so much...
** The Replicators, an extragalactic, mechanical Horde of Alien Locusts who make all kinds of trouble for SG-1 and its allies and eventually invade the Milky Way. By then SG-1 had has some experience with them, but the Goa'uld still saw see them as this trope.
27th Mar '18 10:23:38 AM themisterfree
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* OutsideContextProblem: Initially, the Goa'uld themselves. The Earthers thought the one they'd killed in the movie was the Last of His Kind and that they'd eliminated any threat to Earth when they took it out. Not so much...
** The Replicators, an extragalactic, mechanical Horde of Alien Locusts who make all kinds of trouble for SG-1 and its allies and eventually invade the Milky Way. By then SG-1 had some experience with them, but the Goa'uld still saw them as this trope.
** Anubis, whom the System Lords thought had died eons ago after his banishment. Turns out he was Not Quite Dead. His return in Season 5 forces both the System Lords and the Earth/Tok'ra/Free Jaffa alliance to shift their priorities from each other to the new enemy.
** The Ori in the last two seasons. For nearly a decade the heroes have been fighting the Goa'uld, whose modus operandi is to use technology to trick primitives into thinking they're gods. Now they have to fight aliens who by almost any definition are gods.
** And, of course, Stargate Command and the Tau'ri (Earth humans) in general are this to the Goa'uld. They had a nice little system set up where they could squabble with one another, had a treaty with the Asgard to keep them off their backs, run their own little kingdoms as they wanted... and then a small group of primitives from a long-forgotten world shows up and proceeds to kick their asses so hard that a system that survived millennia goes down in under a decade.
20th Mar '18 9:34:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the [[TheRemnant former]] [[PuppeteerParasite Go'uld]] System Lord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients who designed the Gate probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.

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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the [[TheRemnant former]] [[PuppeteerParasite Go'uld]] Goa'uld]] System Lord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients who designed the Gate probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.
20th Mar '18 9:33:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the ex-EvilOverlord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients who designed the Gate probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.

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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the ex-EvilOverlord [[TheRemnant former]] [[PuppeteerParasite Go'uld]] System Lord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients who designed the Gate probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.
8th Mar '18 7:45:09 AM Morgenthaler
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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the ex-EvilOverlord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.

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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the ex-EvilOverlord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients who designed the Gate probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.
8th Mar '18 7:39:41 AM Morgenthaler
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* OnlyGoodPeopleMayPass: ZigzaggedTrope in "The Quest", when the team goes looking for a MacGuffin that can defeat the evil godlike Ori, but are forced to team up with the Ori's field general [[DarkMessiah Adria]] and the ex-EvilOverlord Ba'al to safely traverse the maze leading to the treasure. The final doorway is through a Stargate that automatically refuses entry to Adria, but lets Ba'al through. Daniel Jackson points out that the Ancients probably didn't see the Goa'uld as a real threat compared to the much more powerful Ori.
8th Mar '18 5:07:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* PragmaticVillainy: The System Lord Yu agrees to add Earth to the Asgard Protected Planets Treaty, votes to oppose Anubis's admission into the ranks of the Goa'uld System Lords, spares Teal'c's life after a failed assasination attempt and eventually cooperates with the SGC against Anubis. However, he does all this because [[NotWorthKilling he has no interest in our section of the galaxy]], he knows Anubis is not going to peacefully integrate into the System Lords, [[RevengeByProxy he expects Teal'c to go back and kill the man who planned the assassination attempt]] and [[EnemyMine Anubis eventually grows into a threat too large to be faced alone]]. Daniel Jackson explicitly points out that, despite their past relationship, Yu is not to be trusted or liked, only counted on to make a practical decision not hampered by [[StupidEvil the normal Goa'uld mindset]]. In the later seasons he also begins to descend into senility and is steered to a practical decision by his [[DragonInChief First Prime]].

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The System Lord Yu agrees to add Earth to the Asgard Protected Planets Treaty, votes to oppose Anubis's admission into the ranks of the Goa'uld System Lords, spares Teal'c's life after a failed assasination attempt and eventually cooperates with the SGC against Anubis. However, he does all this because [[NotWorthKilling he has no interest in our section of the galaxy]], he knows Anubis is not going to peacefully integrate into the System Lords, [[RevengeByProxy he expects Teal'c to go back and kill the man who planned the assassination attempt]] and [[EnemyMine Anubis eventually grows into a threat too large to be faced alone]]. Daniel Jackson explicitly points out that, despite their past relationship, Yu is not to be trusted or liked, only counted on to make a practical decision not hampered by [[StupidEvil the normal Goa'uld mindset]]. In the later seasons he also begins to descend into senility and is steered to a practical decision by his [[DragonInChief First Prime]].Prime]].
** His rival System Lord Ba'al goes in the opposite direction, in that he started out as your typical GodEmperor Goa'uld supremely confident of his own invincibility and prone to holding the VillainBall. Over time he became more sane, while at the same time becoming more competent, not being above [[EnemyMine allying himself with the heroes against greather threats]]. By the time of ''Film/StargateContinuum'', he's openly berating the rest of his fellow System Lords for wanting to destroy Earth, arguing that [[BenevolentAlienInvasion Earth would be more valuable as a protectorate]].
16th Feb '18 9:40:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* RoboticPsychopath: Many human-form Replicators have a LackOfEmpathy and delight in torturing humans. Fifth is the only exception, since he was created with emotions. He only becomes a PsychopathicManchild after the heroes betray ''him''. Though the stand-out example is the copy that Fifth created of Samantha Carter, who manipulated both the heroes and Fifth before killing him and then invading the Milky Way in a genocidal war of conquest.
16th Jan '18 6:43:28 AM DarkPhoenix94
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* MildlyMilitary: Present in every show in the Franchise/StargateVerse to some degree. According to General Michael E. Ryan, Chief of Staff for the Air Force (the ''real'' Chief of Staff for the ''real'' Air Force), he has subordinates who are ''much'' worse than O'Neill in real life.

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* MildlyMilitary: Present in every show in the Franchise/StargateVerse to some degree. According However, according to General Michael E. Ryan, Chief of Staff for the Air Force (the ''real'' Chief of Staff for the ''real'' Air Force), when asked by Creator/RichardDeanAnderson if he has had subordinates who are were as bad as O'Neill, he remarked that he actually had subordinates who were ''much'' worse than O'Neill in real life.worse.
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