History SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped / Literature

15th Jan '16 12:00:34 PM Anddrix
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* A lot of Dickens falls under this heading. He gets away with his anvils because they're never based on the idea that [[ViewersAreMorons Readers Are Morons]] and need lessons in basic decency, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking they are always motivated by genuine passion, fury against real injustices, and a need to increase word count.]] There is a particularly powerful one in ''[[Literature/AChristmasCarol A Christmas Carol in Prose, Being a Ghost Story of Christmas]]'':
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* A lot of Dickens falls under this heading. He gets away with his anvils because they're never based on the idea that [[ViewersAreMorons Readers Are Morons]] Morons and need lessons in basic decency, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking they are always motivated by genuine passion, fury against real injustices, and a need to increase word count.]] There is a particularly powerful one in ''[[Literature/AChristmasCarol A Christmas Carol in Prose, Being a Ghost Story of Christmas]]'':
12th Dec '15 12:59:10 AM CassandraLeo
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* ''Literature/AScannerDarkly'' has a number of {{Aesop}}s: DrugsAreBad; creating a sinister SurveillanceState in the pursuit of a War on Drugs that results in no one trusting anyone else enough to form genuine attachments is just as bad; preying on the weak and powerless in order to profit from them is equally reprehensible. These are all delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer, but given that these problems continue in our society to this very day, they're a message that needs to be heard.
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* ''Literature/AScannerDarkly'' has a number of {{Aesop}}s: DrugsAreBad; creating a sinister SurveillanceState SinisterSurveillance [[PoliceState State]] in the pursuit of a War on Drugs that results in no one trusting anyone else enough to form genuine attachments is just as bad; preying on the weak and powerless in order to profit from them is equally reprehensible. These are all delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer, but given that these problems continue in our society to this very day, they're a message that needs to be heard.
11th Dec '15 11:54:53 PM CassandraLeo
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** The novels also aren't very subtle in the way the hellish treatment of women is depicted. But, given that many of the same things happen ''in our world to this very day'', this is the kind of thing many readers probably need to see.

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* ''Literature/AScannerDarkly'' has a number of {{Aesop}}s: DrugsAreBad; creating a sinister SurveillanceState in the pursuit of a War on Drugs that results in no one trusting anyone else enough to form genuine attachments is just as bad; preying on the weak and powerless in order to profit from them is equally reprehensible. These are all delivered with the subtlety of a sledgehammer, but given that these problems continue in our society to this very day, they're a message that needs to be heard.
30th Sep '15 12:29:44 PM DDRMASTERM
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* ''Uncle Tom's Cabin'' basically consisted of Harriet Beecher Stowe gathering together a whole bunch of stories of actual people who were actually enslaved, then changing the names and adding in a plot to tie it together.
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* ''Uncle ''[[UncleTomsCabin Uncle Tom's Cabin'' Cabin]]'' basically consisted of Harriet Beecher Stowe gathering together a whole bunch of stories of actual people who were actually enslaved, then changing the names and adding in a plot to tie it together.
26th Sep '15 7:09:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the AmeliasNotebook installment "Oh Boy Amelia", Carly drops a nice one on classmate Clarisse (paraphrased):
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* In the AmeliasNotebook Literature/AmeliasNotebook installment "Oh Boy Amelia", Carly drops a nice one on classmate Clarisse (paraphrased):
23rd Sep '15 10:30:23 AM ladyofthelibrary
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* In the AmeliasNotebook installment "Oh Boy Amelia", Carly drops a nice one on classmate Clarisse (paraphrased): --> There's no such thing as a boy thing or a girl thing. What you mean is it's not ''your'' thing.
13th Sep '15 8:35:21 AM RookEncounte
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** What makes this really profound is that the framing of the story is the discovery of historical records of the declaration centuries later. The civilization now in existence finds it almost incomprehensible that they were so warlike, dropping the second major anvil: true devoted pacifism is possible on a large-scale level.
26th Aug '15 7:03:13 PM irrevenant
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** But ''Heinlein'' did not see ''The Forever War'' as being in any way the opposite of ''Starship Troopers'', and told Haldeman that he very much liked ''The Forever War''. Heinlein went out of his way to do that publicly.
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** But ''Heinlein'' did not see ''The Forever War'' as being in any way the opposite of ''Starship Troopers'', and told Haldeman that he very much liked ''The Forever War''. Heinlein went out of his way to do that publicly.publicly[[note]]Heinlein seems to have a rare ability to be anvilicious from a variety of different perspectives. It's hard to imagine the sort of mind that would write both Starship Troopers '''and''' StrangerInAStrangeLand[[/note]].
21st Aug '15 12:03:56 PM Joylock
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** Though the point these novels were making may seem clearly obvious today, it's important to note that ''Animal Farm'' and ''1984'' were published in the 1940's, when Stalin was still regarded by a good deal of the general public in the West as a hero due to his support in World War 2, and many members of the Western intelligentsia were enraptured by or at minimum genuinely sympathetic to the Communist Soviet political system. ''Animal Farm'' in particular was written during the War and initially had difficulty getting published because of pro-Soviet sentiment in Britain at the time.
5th Aug '15 2:16:50 PM BristleNate
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* ''Literature/TheSecretGarden'': The book takes several {{Author Tract}}s towards the end to smack the idea of "Go outside and run around in the fresh air, and if you think you're ill it'll make you ill and if you think you're healthy it'll make you healthy, and believe in the Magic!" But then again, [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped who can wholeheartedly argue with that kind of]] [[AnAesop Aesop?]]
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